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Title: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Davros on August 05, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
    I am curious if anyone still plays EOTD?



Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on August 05, 2017, 10:21:58 PM
I don't play (games at all, not just EotD) but do collect the minis.
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Davros on August 05, 2017, 10:59:26 PM
     I have a few of the sets, the Nautilus crew is my favorite.
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Rabbitz on August 06, 2017, 12:46:53 AM
Would very much like to
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Thunderchicken on August 06, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
Yep, still play from time to time. Mind you, only one game this year. Nothing against EOTD as they are a good set of rules. It's just that with most things wargaming related,
new projects come up and I'm easily distracted....
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Coronasan on November 18, 2017, 12:27:43 PM
Not played EotD for a while, but recently, we made a list of the games we have not played for a while and wanted to play more. EotD did make it on to the list along with IHMN and plenty of other non-steampunky games.
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Michi on November 18, 2017, 01:07:25 PM
Nice miniatures there, but never tried the game due to IHMN being to good to try an alternative... :D
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: axabrax on November 18, 2017, 02:42:10 PM
Good example of why games need continued product and miniatures releases to keep them alive.  I did the Kickstarter and love the minis, but it never caught on in my area. Odd that a game like Dracula's America could make such a splash but EoTD made hardly a ripple in our group. It's all about the marketing.
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: mysteriousbill on November 18, 2017, 03:11:58 PM
Good example of why games need continued product and miniatures releases to keep them alive.  I did the Kickstarter and love the minis, but it never caught on in my area. Odd that a game like Dracula's America could make such a splash but EoTD made hardly a ripple in our group. It's all about the marketing.

True, but we have all seen new product that unbalances the game
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: NurgleHH on November 22, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
Yep, still play from time to time. Mind you, only one game this year. Nothing against EOTD as they are a good set of rules. It's just that with most things wargaming related,
new projects come up and I'm easily distracted....
sad, very sad. Your boards are fantastic, real buildings from that period. So the boards made for games every week!
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: jetengine on November 24, 2017, 01:08:16 AM
Good example of why games need continued product and miniatures releases to keep them alive.  I did the Kickstarter and love the minis, but it never caught on in my area. Odd that a game like Dracula's America could make such a splash but EoTD made hardly a ripple in our group. It's all about the marketing.

Frankly I think the problem was EOTD was too scattershot, not much focus, trying to cram as much Victoriana in the setting at once. You had an ostensibly gothic horror background  scraping with steampunk, sci fi, literary figures and even cthulhu ! Adding in that steampunk was already getting pretty worn out at that point. Now a 'Victorian steampunk skirmish game' is a genre unto itself.

Comparitively Weird West isnt seen that often, the narrative is clear and has focus with each faction having an explicit enemy and all it takes is a generic western gang with a few add ons to play Draculas America .
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Dave Knight on November 24, 2017, 01:25:08 AM
There is a Black Friday sale on which has encouraged me to grab a copy of the rules and the Vampires

Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Thunderchicken on November 26, 2017, 08:48:44 PM
sad, very sad. Your boards are fantastic, real buildings from that period. So the boards made for games every week!


Ah thank you my friend. As luck would have it, an opportunity has arisen for a game new years eve. So all the goodies will be coming out  :)


 
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 26, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
Frankly I think the problem was EOTD was too scattershot, not much focus, trying to cram as much Victoriana in the setting at once. You had an ostensibly gothic horror background  scraping with steampunk, sci fi, literary figures and even cthulhu ! Adding in that steampunk was already getting pretty worn out at that point. Now a 'Victorian steampunk skirmish game' is a genre unto itself.

Comparitively Weird West isnt seen that often, the narrative is clear and has focus with each faction having an explicit enemy and all it takes is a generic western gang with a few add ons to play Draculas America .

Very, very well said!

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Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: NurgleHH on November 27, 2017, 01:50:01 PM
Ah thank you my friend. As luck would have it, an opportunity has arisen for a game new years eve. So all the goodies will be coming out  :)
Glad to hear this. Maybe next year at the BLAM again? I will play a match.
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Benny on December 07, 2017, 08:18:13 AM
Funnily enough i have a game organised for tomorrow night. I like the ruleset but the problem is with all games, new ones come along with new miniatures to paint. The lure of the new shiny things has always taken me away from good games that i enjoy. But after the dust settles i always find my way back to the good games.

I think the scattershot worked for EotD. Like it or not, the biggest and most commercial games on the market (looking at you Warmachine and WH40,000) have very big scattershot approaches to the styles and themes of their armies, from Ancient Egyptian robots, to Hippy Space Elves to Space Knights and Mad Max Green skinned barbarians and even after all that fans keep mutating those themes to make new things again.
For EotD people were asking for extra rules for playing in Africa, Asia and on Mars "John Carter" style, so it seems the scattershot approach wasn't reaching far enough for fans.

If people felt it was getting too diverse a game you could just trim it back to suit the theme you want. You want just Gothic Horror? Keep it to the main book only and replace the steampunk weapons of the Gentleman's club with holly or cursed weapons/artifacts.
You want more steampunk? Don't allow Werewolves, Vampires, Brotherhood and other Gothic Horror stuff and you end up with Clickers, Gentlman's club, Criminal Gangs and Nemo and the crew of the Nautilus.
As with all of these types of games, if there is too much you can always take it out. Its harder to make new stuff from scratch and stick it in.

I think its just a case of newer shinier games came along and EotD just got forgotten. But i still get asked at my local gaming club once every few months when im going to pull out the terrain and run some more of it.
Title: Re: Anyone still play Empire of The Dead?
Post by: Manchu on January 05, 2018, 09:06:55 AM
EotD - a great ruleset supported by a wonderful line of miniatures! The only trouble is, so to speak, that combination is no longer uncommon.

I suppose another issue may be, there's not a ton of affordable Victorian terrain on the market - in contrast to, say, Old West stuff (for Drac's America).