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Title: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: Curis on August 23, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
In the lands of the north, where the black rocks stand guard against the cold sea, in the dark night that is very long, the men of the north lands sit by their great log fires and they tell a tale…

Exploring Citadel Miniatures' pre-slotta ranges is a real journey of discovery and wonder for me. My knowledge of Games Workshop's miniature ranges starts with 1991's Catalogue 1 – which only goes back as far as 1986 and not right to the beginning of Citadel history (1979) as the name suggests.  There's a great many pre-1986 miniature ranges I have no awareness of, and so I'd never painted any pre-slotta stuff until I found out about this Gnoll.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/gnollin-the-gnoll-640.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)
Gnollin the Gnoll.

This is no ordinary Gnoll – his nasal helm, kite shield and hafted axe mean he's Fantasy Tribes FTG14 Gnorman the Gnoll. I picked him while I was trawling the net for 1980s Citadel Normans to reinforce my army.  His giant nose and teeny legs do put me in mind of Noggin the Nog.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/gnollin-and-noggin-320.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)
"Hello" said Noggin, cheerfully.  "Very pleased to meet you."

Gnolls in the Warhammer World are described as having ruddy flesh, but I thought that when placed alongside regular Normans he'd work better with green skin to reinforce his inhumanity.  As I found out reading Goblin Lee's blog on Gnolls, the Fantasy Tribes Gnolls were later rebranded as C12 Great Goblins, so I can claim the green flesh is goblin rather than botched Gnoll.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/gnollin-and-the-normans-640.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)
Gnollin with more Normans I've painted since Salute 2017.

I now have fifteen Norman Sergeants, which allows them to rank up pleasingly in a five-by-three regiment.  Though these models have been primarily used in Saga where round bases are king, I do like the 20mm square bases to make them into a neat and imposing regiment.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/gnollin-in-a-norman-regiment-640.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)
Lord Weuere happy to let Gnollin in his shieldwall.

Interestingly, Plastefuchs pointed out that Saga does actually have a fan-made supplement that introduces fantasy races to the game.

    "The Fantastic Saga rules are not done by any of the Saga regulars but a small group from tabletopwelt.de. Depending on what you envision your Gnolls to feel like, maybe the Kobaloi rules could fit well. You can find all of the new rules on http://www.a-fantastic-saga.com/ (http://www.a-fantastic-saga.com/). The sub-forum for AFS is quite active and the developers are there as well, helping out with rules questions."

I really enjoy slipping this little piece of fantasy into my historical force; I want to push that envelope further.  Watch this space!
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on August 23, 2017, 09:23:22 PM
Those look fantastic and I really like that little guy in the ranks.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: frenchfever on September 02, 2017, 12:36:34 AM
that's fonny  :)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: mweaver on September 02, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
The regiment looks sharp - very crisp painting.  Love the old gnoll sneaking in there.  I have a lot of figures from that old range, including that one.

-Michael
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: archiduque on September 02, 2017, 03:15:24 PM
Nice work! ;)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: gostgost on September 02, 2017, 07:30:47 PM
The green guy fits in well
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Sitric Caech on September 04, 2017, 05:00:49 AM
Love those citadel/foundry Normans. Great painting..
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Phil Portway on September 04, 2017, 10:18:57 AM
Cuddly little Gnoll   :D
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: majorsmith on September 06, 2017, 10:09:16 AM
Brilliant some real classics there
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Dez on September 06, 2017, 01:31:25 PM
Cool!!! I also like to insert some fantasy figures into historical troops ...  :D
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Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Curis on October 02, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
Thanks for all the comments!  I like the skeleton you've snuck into those ranks, Dez.  It works well when the armour is distinct enough to identify what era the troops is from.

Decades of exposure to Games Workshop’s marketing materials has conditioned me not to paint individual figures, but regiments, and then armies.  There was no stopping at just one Gnorman Gnoll.  Gnot on your gnelly.  eBay trawling has turned up two more preslotta gems from 1981–3.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/preslotta-warhammer-oldhammer-citadel-norman-gnoll-reinforcements.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Lord Tisserand with his hawk Antonius, accompanied by two Gnolls.

Lord Tisserand is a simple conversion of the Wargames Foundry ex-Citadel Normans with the arm from a Black Tree command figure holding a hawk swapped in to make him a regimental champion.  I also sculpted on a strap so he could carry a shield while waving around the Bird of Command – but that’s barely worth mentioning as this sentence took longer to type than the strap took to sculpt.

You can see the original figure as it appeared in White Dwarf 92, with the cliché French names variously inspired by Inspector Clouseau, Rémy Martin cognac, Marie Brizard liquer and maybe ‘Allo ‘Allo characters.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/white-dwarf-92-f4-normans.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

And just what is the French for “cliché”?

Why a hawk?  Hawks were a symbol of authority in Norman times.  The Bayeaux Tapestry initially shows Harold holding a hawk, and switches to showing William holding a hawk when his claim to England’s throne becomes legitimate.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/behold-me-i-am-ye-captain-henceforth.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)[/i]

I might push this idea of animals symbolising command into the realm of fantasy and model a Norman King on a giant hawk or griffon.  I am enjoying the blend of historical and fantasy in the same project.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/normans/warhammer-oldhammer-gnorman-gnolls-facing-off-against-undead-wights.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Lord Tisserand and the Gnolls against Undead Wights.

All three Gnolls I have painted now are variants of the same figure.  In the above image the right-most Gnoll is the unadulterated miniature.  The one on the left I converted with an arm and sword from a 1980s Citadel Goblin.  The central Gnoll is the resculpted version that appeared in the later C13 range – who has the same body but a new weapon arm and head.  Challenge now is how to convert future Gnolls to provide enough variety for a complete Gnorman regiment.

Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: aircav on October 03, 2017, 02:37:14 PM
Fantastic stuff, absolutely loving these  :D 8) 8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Little Odo on October 04, 2017, 08:14:21 PM
Great idea, well executed. I really like the cross-over idea you have here - that could work in so many ways in so many genres. There'll be gno stopping you gnow.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Breazer on October 06, 2017, 02:25:32 PM
These are really well painted!
Title: Re: Curis' Normans
Post by: Curis on November 23, 2017, 10:31:29 AM
Friar Tuck, legendary tonsured companion of Robin Hood, joins my miniatures collection.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dungeons-and-dragons/dnd-warlord-games-friar-tuck-priest-iso.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

“Praise the Lord!  And pass the tax rebate!”

Friar Tuck was an impulse purchase whilst acting as Nottingham cultural attaché for visiting family members.  Warlord Games (a Nottingham company) have a small range of Heritage Miniatures they’ve slipped into local tourist spots like the the National Justice Museum and Nottingham Tourism Centre.  I quite enjoyed making my turbo-nerd purchase in a regular retail outlet – it’s like being able to buy Dungeons & Dragons in the same place as your milk and morning papers.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dungeons-and-dragons/curis-and-robin-hood.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

“If Curis has seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giant Robin Hood statues.”

Tuck’s base was originally built up with sand to accommodate the cast-on scenic base.  But the original sculpted base features what looks like a little tombstone with FRIAR TUCK engraved on it, which I thought implies he’s the friar that’s just buried Friar Tuck, or alternatively Friar Tuck’s ghost.  That was too much narrative for me.  So I chopped it off.


(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dungeons-and-dragons/dnd-warlord-games-friar-tuck-priest-aebbes-abbey.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

Friar Tuck in the Monastery of Abingdon.

The basing style matches my Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Dungeons & Dragons miniatures, and not my Citadel Normans.  Tuck is too big to stand alongside the older 1980s Perry sculpts, plus friars are anachronistic in Norman times.  But then friars are anachronistic in the classic Robin Hood setting of Richard the Lionheart.  I plan to paint some monks/friars/priests that are compatible with my Normans.

Cool ending tangent fact: – the Friar Tuck action figure from the Robin Hood Prince of Thieves toyline (https://mightyjabba.com/2012/10/25/friar-tuck-action-figure-from-robin-hood-prince-of-thieves-by-kenner/) was based on the Star Wars Gamorrean Guard?
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Friar Tuck added 23 Nov)
Post by: Andym on November 23, 2017, 01:43:51 PM
Nice! I do love your painting style!  8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Friar Tuck added 23 Nov)
Post by: Anselm van Helsing on November 24, 2017, 10:17:32 AM
You. Paint. Very. Very. Very. Well.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Church added 12 Dec)
Post by: Curis on December 12, 2017, 09:24:13 PM
Thanks Andy!  Thanks Anselm!

Saint Augustine arrived in Britian AD 597 to revitalise Christianity.  For the next four hundred years, crudely constructed churches like this one appear across the island.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/friar-tuck-patrolling-a-dark-ages-church-1200.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

A humble friar takes a stroll around the Saxon minster at sunset.

“But Curis,” I hear you cry, “Friars didn’t exist until centuries after the Dark Ages ended.  Your inclusion of Friar Tuck in the photograph above is highly anachronistic.”  Well, look carefully and you’ll see Doctor Who is also in the photo to sweep your anachronism away.  It’s a unique concept for a Doctor Who episode – transporting a medieval friar back a few centuries and committing all sorts of theological faux pas in the Dark Age monastic communities.  And by “unique” I mean “rubbish”.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/dark-ages-church-front.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Obscure early Warhammer druid shown for scale, and perhaps further anachronisms.

This church was a Salute 2017 purchase from 1st Corps.  It’s five hunks of resin that combine to form a solid-looking and (deliberately) wonky building.  There’s a lot of mdf terrain on the market, but resin’s ease of assembly and feel of structural heft can’t be beaten.  I particularly like the roof being half tiles and half thatch – suggesting the builders couldn’t loot enough tiles from derelict Roman structures.  Another nice touch is the plaster crumbling from the exterior to reveal the non-ashlar masonry typical of churches built before the Norman Conquest.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/dark-ages-church-back.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

As a special birthday treat AJ took me to Butt Road – the site of a similarly laid out church built AD 320–340.  You can see the curved apse in the left of the photo below and the (modern) blocks of oak marking the position of the church’s internal posts.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/curis-at-butt-road-roman-church.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Also enjoying the Late Roman church – a local Essexman passed out drunk on cans of cider.

My model church has those internal wooden posts as part of the interior detail too.  You might remember seeing them already on this blog as I’ve been cheeky and used the half-painted interior as backdrops for Chaos Thugs and Friar Tuck.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dungeons-and-dragons/dnd-warlord-games-friar-tuck-priest-aebbes-abbey.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

As a pleasing touch, you can take the two portici off the side of the church and combine them into a thatched cottage.  This will come in useful for that inevitable point when my regular opponents despair at me trotting out the church for its seventeenth game in a row.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/dark-ages-thatched-squat.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

"Fussake Curis, we’re playing a 6mm science fiction and this cottage is no better than that bloody church."

Disappointingly, both doors on the kit are have entirely smooth and detail-free planks, which I had to paint the wooden texture onto.  It seems at odds with the love and care the sculptor put into the tiles and thatch to skimp on the doors.  A minor flaw.

Such a big piece of terrain is a pain to photograph.  In the end I couldn’t resist sticking some goggly eyes on it.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/the-church-is-alive.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Too late, the true meaning of Pope Benedict’s final statement becomes clear.  “The church is alive.”

I want to push the modelling on the church further with:

    Adjacent burial ground with Renedra’s plastic gravestones
    Interior detailing, such as an altar, and benches for the clergy
    A base for the piece, to get rid of the awkward grassy lip
    A selection of Dark Age civilians and monks.

But the piece is finished enough for Dark Age and Early Medieval gaming.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: aircav on December 13, 2017, 10:00:22 AM
Brilliant stuff Curis  8) 8)

Hamakt, very interesting about the grave stones, cheers  :D
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Curis on December 13, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
Thanks for the insight!  I was looking into Saxon burials and made the assumption that because they practiced inhumation that there were gravestones.  I'll take your suggestion of the fieldstones marking the perimeter instead.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Dr. Zombie on December 13, 2017, 10:14:22 AM
That church has been on my must have list for quite some time. It looks really good and you have made a great job of it.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Nord on December 13, 2017, 10:18:02 AM
Lovely stuff all round, only just found this thread, so please excuse the tardiness of my "wow, love that gnoll". Church is looking good too. I used to live in Snottingham, good to see Robin has his arrow back - it goes missing on a regular basis apparently.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Church added 12 Dec)
Post by: Totleben on December 13, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
Such a big piece of terrain is a pain to photograph.  In the end I couldn’t resist sticking some goggly eyes on it.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/dark-ages/the-church-is-alive.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)



Thomas, the church lol

Great stuff alltogether
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Neunfinger on December 13, 2017, 05:53:32 PM
Your painting style is terrific, very clean and vibrant. The chapel looks very cool, even especially with googly eyes :D
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: tin shed gamer on December 13, 2017, 09:04:49 PM
Doubly wounded by another thread on here.
First lovely subtle painting. Then it's another sculpt I've not put paint to.(in fact I haven't even a copy of it )
Your observations are spot on . There's a fair bit of back room know how hidden in plain sight. The doors did have a very subtle grain on them. Disappointingly it became lost in translation.
The apse is separate to increase the versatility of the kit.If you lift the roof off there's a lip on the inside to allow you to add a removable floor.

The idea being you get a lot more bang for your buck. It's able to double as, an isle barn, cart store/stable ,warehouse . Etc. then the isles are designed to be used on their own as open fronted work shops or as you've done as a single building.

I'd recommend the farm stead As I'd had a lot more time to invest in it(the Church was built in a day.) Several of the buildings in that set can be pushed to the 18th century ,and different locations. The bee hives can still be seen in use in the 20thc.(same with the carts in the range.)

The 👀's though are timeless.

Mark.

Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Church added 12 Dec)
Post by: Codsticker on December 14, 2017, 04:41:19 PM
In the end I couldn’t resist sticking some goggly eyes on it.
Paint the thatch red and it would look like one of Beaker's ancient cousins.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Beaker_%28Muppet%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Hu Rhu on December 14, 2017, 04:44:44 PM
That is a lovely piece of beautifully painted terrain.  I was going to scratchbuild an early church for my forthcoming Dux Britannium project but I might re-think now I have seen yours.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Sitric Caech on December 15, 2017, 01:09:10 AM
Love this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Dark Ages Chruch added 12 Dec)
Post by: Curis on April 24, 2018, 12:32:31 PM
@tin shed gamer – You're the sculptor of the church?!  It's a lovely kit.  I have had the farm on my to-buy list for a while now, I just need a few more peasants minis painted to justify it first.

Thanks all for the comments!

Arch-rivals from opposing sides of the Hundred Years’ War.  Each of them a talented medieval commander, but with a great respect for the other’s skills and abilities.  Presenting two classic Citadel Miniatures  – Sir John Chandos and Bertrand du Guesclin.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/oldhammer-ex-citadel-blandford-warriors-hundred-years-war.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

English commander Sir John Chandos and French commander Bertrand du Guesclin.

I like how different the miniatures are to each other.  Chandos is depicted as a classic knight in shining armour, with his “sharp pile gules” (a medieval way of saying “upside down red triangle”) heraldry sculpted onto both his tabard and shield.  His chainmail coif and fine moustache mark him out as a gentleman.  In contrast, du Guesclin with his black Breton eagle is a scruffy bugger with his bare head and loose-fitting straps.  Du Guesclin was a low-born brawler who started his career as a marauder, ambushing people in the forests of Brittany.  His equipment was reputedly in such poor condition he was sometimes mistaken for a common brigrand rather than a knight.  When the pair first met, Chandos lent du Guesclin his own armour and horse, as du Guesclin’s own kit wasn’t nice enough to be seen duelling in.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/medieval-warlords-angus-mcbride-bertrand-du-guesclin.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Bertand du Guesclin and his retainers surprising men-at-arms of Sir High Calverly on the road to Montmuran, Brittany, 1354.

The two men clashed on opposing sides of the Battle of Auray in 1364.  The French were defeated, and du Guesclin taken prisoner by Chandos.  France quickly paid his 40,000 florins ransom as they were keen for him to command an expedition to assist in the Castilian Civil War.  Guesclin invited Chandos along with him to Castile, a sign the two men had grown into friends, though Chandos declined.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/medieval-warlords-angus-mcbride-sir-john-chandos.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Sir John Chandos is harassed by Moorish genitors in the army of Henry Castile at the battle of Nájera, northern Spain, 1367.

The pair also fought on opposing sides at the Battle of Nájera in 1367.  Again the French were defeated and again du Guesclin was taken prisoner by Chandos.  Again France were eager to have him back and paid a massive 100,000 francs.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/oldhammer-ex-citadel-blandford-warriors-hundred-years-war-in-grenoble-2.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Chandos and du Guesclin in the crumbling Burgundian ruins of Grenoble.

The walls of Grenoble in the picture above are from an upcoming Kickstarter from Fogou Models.  I’ve been gifted a set to paint ahead of the campaign, and they’ve been an absolute joy to drybrush and weather up.  Expect to see a lot more photographs of them in the future.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/oldhammer-ex-citadel-blandford-warriors-on-medieval-warlords-4.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/)

Left to right: Biscuit Dude, Alan Horseman, Bertand du Guesclin and Sir John Chandos.

That’s one third of the Blandford Warriors painted now!  I’m hoping to get all twelve finished for Bring out Your Lead in August – they were last year’s reissue and want to buy this year’s without any lead-guilt.  Next up,  we’ll be going in to the Hussite Wars.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hundred Years' Wars Commanders added 24th April)
Post by: tin shed gamer on April 24, 2018, 04:10:15 PM
I am indeed,and one or two other things to boot ;)

Your chucking out some seriously nice figures in this thread.

Mark.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hundred Years' Wars Commanders added 24th April)
Post by: Phil Portway on April 24, 2018, 09:51:22 PM
Great thread to "watch". Lovely crisp painting on the figures & the buildings have a lived in look about them, wonderful stuff!
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hundred Years' Wars Commanders added 24th April)
Post by: Breazer on April 26, 2018, 01:00:10 AM
These are some really nice minis and the story behind them is awesome to read. Really makes them come alive.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hundred Years' Wars Commanders added 24th April)
Post by: Curis on May 18, 2018, 01:11:36 PM
Cheers Mark!  Cheers Phil! 

Breazer – I love having these figures as a starting point for digging up some history.  There’s a load of research rabbit holes to disappear down with each new one.

If you’re into Czech action cinema you might already know Jan Žižka as the titular hero of the upcoming Jan Žižka film from director Petr Jákl – the man famous for films such as Pterodactyl and Born Into Shit.  If you’re not, lemme walk you through this trio of classic 1988 Citadel Miniatures.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/ex-citadel-medival-warlords-blandford-warriors-hussite-trio-oldhammer.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

Left to right: Taborite Infantryman, Jan Žižka and Teutonic Knight.

Who are these miniatures?  Welcome to my history lesson.  A wise man once said, “Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”  And I don’t want you, dear reader, to be doomed to fighting in a series of 15th century Eastern European wars.



Teutonic Knight (1412)

The Teutonic Knight was, for many years, the Holy Grail for Blandford Warrior collectors.  Wargames Foundry had quietly reissued the other eleven Blandford Warriors across a couple of blister packs, making Teutonic Knight the rarest.  Luckily they brought him back in to production at Bring Out Your Lead 2017, so we johnny-come-latelies can be completists.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/oldhammer-citadel-blandford-warriors-hussite-wars-teutonic-knight.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

A literal white knight.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/medival-warlords-blandford-warriors-teutonic-knight-oldhammer.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

Teutonic knight attacked by Lithuanian horse-archers at the Battle of Tannenberg, 1410.

At the start of the 15th century the Teutonic Grand Order had turned its crusading ire on the Baltic peoples, and invaded Greater Poland.  Against these Catholic invaders the Kingdom of Poland allied with the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and crushed them at the Battle of Tannenburg in 1410.  A certain man was (probably) at that battle, and (maybe) got his left eye stabbed out of his face by the knights.  This man was …



Jan Žižka

The cover star of the Medieval Warlords book.  The Medieval Warlord.  Angus McBride paints two colour pictures of him while medieval warlord Gaiseric, with his own whole chapter, gets none!  Jan Žižka is sculpted as he would have appeared in 1423, after he lost his right eye to an arrow while besieging the castle of Rábí, and holding the famous fist-shaped mace he used in battle despite being totally blind.

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/oldhammer-citadel-blandford-warriors-hussite-wars-jan-zizka.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

“No one’s ever really disabled so long as he has courage.” – Chip Chase

(http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/images/oldhammer/medival-warlords-blandford-warriors-jan-zizka-oldhammer.jpg) (http://www.ninjabread.co.uk)

Jan Žižka enters Prague with his Orebite Warriors, 1421.


Jan Žižka was one of the greatest military leaders of all time.  He was never defeated in battle.  He invented the war wagon – the earliest form of tank warfare.  He stood against the power of the Catholic Church and served as an inspiration for the Reformation a century later.  After he died he asked to be flayed and have his skin used as a drum so he could continue to lead his followers into battle.  What more can a man achieve in his life?  (Fighting a Pterodactlyl?)
Dirty advertisement. Ninjabread continues below.

Who did Jan Žižka lead into battle?  It was people like…



Taborite Infantryman

The Pope as the antichrist, attended by a large number of whores.  The Pope celebrating mass, served by the devil, while an entourage of demons stand around the altar.  These vivid religiously-charged images were served up by the Taborites, unhappy with the corruption of the medieval Catholic church, and wanting to spread their ideas to the illiterate peasant masses.  For battle they decorated their shields similarly, like this tiny peasant behind earthworks squaring up to the Catholic knight – presumably evoking a David-and-Goliath narrative with the peasant’s sling and relative size of the combatants.

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The shield design is based on the design of a surviving pavise at the National Museum of Prague.

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Taborite war wagons await the attack of Sigismund’s Hungarian horsemen, outside Kutna Hora, 1421, Eastern Bohemia.

The Taborites were named after their fortified city in Bohemia, which was in turn named after the Mount Tabor of Biblical fame.  They were a radical sub-faction of the larger anti-Catholic movement, the medieval equivalent of anarcho-communists who wanted to share everything they had – to the point where they even practised free love.  Jan Žižka led them into battle numerous times against the Emperor Sigismund, but eventually found their theology (and perhaps their free love) too radical, and he parted ways to found the less hardline Oberite faction.



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Pictured left to right:  Alan Horseman, Biscuit Dude, Taborite Infantryman, Jan Žižka, Teutonic Knight, Sir John Chandos and Bertrand du Guesclin.  Not pictured: Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog.

That’s seven of the twelve Blandford Warriors painted.  I almost included Vlad Dracula with this lot, as he was a member of the Ordo Draconis that Emperor Sigismund founded to stamp on people like Jan Žižka.   At times like this I love history; it’s like the Marvel Cinematic Universe – a shared reality with potential for crossover events.

Coming soon to Ninjabread – Big Trouble in Little Tang Dynasty.

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Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hussite Wars added 18th May)
Post by: tin shed gamer on May 18, 2018, 01:53:32 PM
Cracking!
That's not an easy paint .through four right angles,Especially keeping the lines even. Even more so when your copying an existing shield design.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hussite Wars added 18th May)
Post by: Breazer on May 19, 2018, 11:35:44 AM
This log is just great to read through. well done!
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hussite Wars added 18th May)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 19, 2018, 12:37:15 PM
Excellent figures and such a steady hand  8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hussite Wars added 18th May)
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 02, 2018, 02:48:42 PM
Generally I dont like the classic 28mm stumpy proportions look. But these ones here are so well painted and full of character! Really great and I love the theme too.  Those peasant revolts and early social movements always struck a chord in me.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hussite Wars added 18th May)
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on June 04, 2018, 10:54:15 AM
This whole thread is amazing. Living in Prague myself I am really keen on your representation of Jan Zizka. Your freehand on the pavise and the general painting is incredible.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Hussite Wars added 18th May)
Post by: Curis on June 20, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
Thanks tin shed gamer!  Luckily I can pass off any wonkiness as a representation of the Hussite peasant's cack-handedness rather than a lack of patience.

Cheers Breazer.

Captain Harlock – I love the stumpiness of old minaitures.  There's such a high percentage of face on the sculpts, and the exaggeration is more pleasing to look at.  I like the super-deformed look.

I wanna visit Prague to see the Jaz Zizka statue one day, Tyr.

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If you're into your medieval history you WILL NOT have heard of these models.  That's cos they're not medieval at all.  Welcome to my next two classic Citadel Miniatures from the range based on the 1987 Medieval Warlords book.

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An Lushan and Imperial Guardsman on the lower reaches of the Yellow River.

So, I have beef with An Lushan being classified as "Medieval" as it's a specifically European term for a historical period, and China ain't Europe.  Calling An Lushan a Medieval Warlord is like calling Richard the Lionheart an Imperial Chinese Warlord.  I imagine the publishers had a shortlist of even less suitable titles for the book.

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"Okay, sod it, we'll go with Medieval Warlords."

With the historian's pedantry out of the way, who are these two Medie... classic Citadel Miniatures?

An Lushan

An Lushan was possibly Mongol.  Possibly Turkish.  Possibly Liverpudlian (going off the model's uncanny resemblence to Ringo Starr).  What we can definitely say is he wasn't Han Chinese as he was allowed to rise to power as a regional military governor in 8th century China when policy was to keep these powerful posts away from the capital's politicians to prevent rebellion.

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"In the town where I was born, lived a man who sailed to sea."

However, in 755, An Lushan's previously amazing relationship with Tang Dynasty soured.  He marched on the heartland cities and declared himself emperor of his own brand new dynasty.  This was the An Lushan Rebellion, which was one of the bloodiest wars of all time – the Tang Empire was bigger than even the Roman Empire at its height, and the scale of slaughter as cities were toppled and populations massacred reached perhaps into the tens of millions.  Fascinatingly, the rebellion seems to have been sparked not by lofty political ideals, or a popular dissatisfaction with the ruling elite, but by a concern (or possibly paranoia) that the Tang Dynasty's Chief Minister was personally out to get An Lushan.

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An Lushan pursues a Khitan Mongol beyond the Great Wall on the north-east Chinese border, 735.

The Tang Emperor fled as the rebels stormed city after city.  But as An Lushan's paranoia increased and his health worsened, he became a vulnerability and was assassinated by his own son (a surprisingly common fate in Imperial China).  The Tang Dynasty was severely weakened by the uprising, and it marked the beginning of the end for China's golden age of civilisation.

But who had opposed An Lushan?  It was…

Imperial Guardsmen

By the time of the An Lushan Rebellion, the Tang military was split between militia on the Empire's frontiers (which made up the bulk of An Lushan's forces), and the Imperial Guard who were permanently garrisoned at the capital city and the Imperial palaces.  However, as with Ancient Rome's Praetorian Guard, an elite fighting force concentrated at the seat of Imperial power could lead to violent coups.

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Yang Guifei – the Emperor's consort – and the Imperial Guard prepare to leave Ch'ang-an before the army of An Lushan, 756.

The Imperial Guard certainly proved wilful during Emperor Xuanzong's time – as they escorted Yang Guifei (the Emperor's favourite consort) away from the rebels' pillaging of the capital city they blamed her personally for their military misfortunes and demanded her immediate death.  Needing to keep his elite guard on side, the Emperor consented and Yang Guifei was strangled.

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Imperial Guard circa 736.

I've freehanded floral patterns onto the Imperial Guard's decorated leather armour to match the Angus McBride colour plates from the book.  I enjoyed painting the stubble – all you've got to do for the five o'clock shadow look is shade and highlight the skin as normal then glaze the manly areas with a warm mid-grey (for example Skavenblight Dinge).

Blandford Warriors Assemble!

So that's nine of the twelve Blandford Warriors painted.  I'm enjoying the tour around history and the opportunity to dabble with different periods without having to collect dozens upon dozens of figures for gaming.

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Left to right: Jan Žižka, Bucellarius of Majorian, Betrand du Guesclin, Taborite Infantryman, An Lushan, Sir John Chandos, Imperial Guardsmen, Teutonic Knight and Alan Horseman.

I'm looking forward to working on the final trio of Blandford Warriors to complete this historical wargaming project!

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Title: Aetius, Owen & Dracula – Blandford Warriors Episodes 10, 11 & 12
Post by: Curis on August 23, 2018, 12:18:58 PM
It’s the end of the line for the Blandford Warriors!  All twelve in this limited series of classic 1988 Citadel Miniatures are now painted and standing alongside each other in the cabinet, jostling for position of most dramatic medieval warlord.

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Left to right: Flavius Aetius, Owen of Wales and Vlad Dracula.

The final triumverate are spread across a thousand years of European history.  Let’s take a look at them each in turn.



Flavius Aetius

Chances are you’ve not heard of Aetius, but you’ll have heard of his most famous opponent – Attila the Hun.  Aetius and Attila clashed at the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains in AD451 – one of the greatest bloodsheds as the Western Roman Empire crumbled under the weight of barbarian invaders.  Aetius was supreme commander of all military forces in the west, and crushed the Huns, stopping their advance into Gaul, and ultimately breaking Atilla’s tribal empire – earning him a place in history as the last of the great Romans.

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Flavius Aetius and his supporting Blandford Warriors – Alan Horseman and Bucellarius of Majorian – leading the defence of the Empire.

I really enjoyed painting Aetius, and mounted him a small rocky outcrop so he cuts a commanding presence over my Late Imperial Roman.  The mini is at least 20 years older than his rank-and-file counterparts, so he needs the height along the more modern, bigger figures.

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The Warlord Aetius and a Burgundian retainer attacked by a Hun at the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains, northwest France, AD451.

Aetius has the unique honour of being the titular star of both a wargame AND an opera by Handel.  The wargame is Aetius and Arthur (which must be 50% about him if you go off just the title).  The opera is Ezio (that’s Italian for “Aetius”), and sees our general returning home from defeating Attila, trying to disentangle himself and his future wife from a plot to assassinate the Emperor.  This is the only Citadel miniature I know of which has an opera about it, until my own work, Marneus Calgaro Maestro di Ultramarines, debuts this winter.



Owen of Wales

This miniature is Owen of Wales (“Owain Lawgoch” if you’re Welsh), who was a mercenary captain in the Hundred Years War (c. 1330 – 1378).  He hated the English so much he sided with their arch-nemesis, France, hoping his military service would ultimately help him claim the Prince of Wales title.  He was killed by a sheep (well, an English spy named “Johnny Lamb”).

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Bertrand du Guesclin and Owen of Wales fighting together, united in their hatred of the English.

I had a load of fun painting all twelve of the lions rampant on his heraldry.  They are the arms of the royal house of Gwynedd – which Owen would have worn to cement his image as the rightful Prince of Wales.
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“Oh I just can’t wait to be ki… prince!”

Now, let’s all take a moment to reflect on the name of the Swiss municipality in the caption below.

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Owen of Wales is pursued by halberdiers from Berne at Buttisholz, Switzerland, 1375.

Now, there is a later Owen of Wales, (c. 1359 – c. 1415).  A contemporary chronicler claimed this Owen of Wales (“Owain Glyndŵr” if you’re Welsh) adopted the name as he was inspired by the earlier medieval warlord.  This is the Owen that instigated a rebellion against the English and got as far as establishing a proper Welsh parliament.  Nowadays the Welsh celebrate him as a symbol of nationalism with their statues, their ship names, their music awards and their Manic Street Preacher songs.  (Seriously, the Manics did the song 1404 all about this lad.)

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Owain Glyndŵr and his Welsh followers are attacked by the English garrison at Caernarfon Castle, AD1401.

This later Owen pops ups in another Angus McBride illustration from Celtic Warriors that’s 83% more liontacular on account of that horse’s barding.  That looks like an fun challenge to paint.



Vlad Dracula

Vlad Dracula, rose to power as Prince of Wallachia by impaling all the leading nobility on stakes in a single night and replacing them with a new totally-loyal nobility raised from the peasantry.  He held on to power with the same impailment tactic – political enemies, suspected traitors, even whole armies of Turks found themselves with sharpened wooden stakes through their torsos.   His brutality and violent excesses saw him dubbed “Vlad the Impaler” within his lifetime, and his legend has grown since his death to the point of him being the most iconic vampire in the modern popular imagination.

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A veteran Taborite Infantryman and Vlad Dracula fighting together on the Hungarian border

Vlad was a member of the Ordo Draconis, which was founded by the King of Hungary to stamp out the enemies of Christianity (including the likes of fellow Blandford Warrior Jan Žižka).  Though ostensibly Christian, Dracula never quite grasped the essence of the religion – attempting to demonstrate his faith to the King of Hungary with a gift of two bags of Turkish heads, ears and noses.  See how well that gift goes down with your vicar.
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Dracula supervises the execution of prisoners after a raid on a German settlement in southern Transylvania, 1460.

The heraldry of the Ordo Draconis, in the Angus McBride plate above, is a dragon swooping down on some sort of serpentine monster.  Ordo Draconis is where Dracula’s father – Vlad II Dracul – got his name from, and “Dracula” is the diminuitive form – “little dragon”.

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Dracula, looking every inch the cock of the town, though at 5’ 2” it’s not many inches.

Vlad eventually died on the battlefield in AD1476, fighting the Ottoman Turks.  They cut his head off and sent it to their Sultan, who impaled it on a spike.  However, Vlad had converted from Greek Orthodoxy to Roman Catholicism during his lifetime – something considered so heretical that Wallachian folklore claimed that on death, any such heretic would transform into… a vampire.



Project Complete

I enjoy grouping the figures from different chapters of Medieval Warlords together (like the Taborite Infantryman and Dracula) to make the figures cross over.  I can even draw a connection through a thousand years of time between Aetius (representing the earliest medieval warlord), and Dracula (the latest):  Aetius defeated Attila the Hun, and Bram Stoker’s Dracula character was a member of the Hungarian tribal group that claimed direct descent from those Huns.

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Left to right: Alan Horseman, Sir John Chandos, Bucellarius of Majorian, Jan Žižka, An Lushan, Flavius Aetius, Imperial Guardsman, Vlad Dracula, Bertrand du Guesclin, Owen of Wales, Teutonic Knight and Taborite Infantryman.

That’s each and every Blandford Warrior painted.  The set is complete.  Project over.  Now I can give my historical wargaming energy to something else.  Reinforcements for my Normans?  Siege of Oxford?  Early Imperial Romans?  Late Imperial Romans?  I’m giddy with excitement, all I can say with certainty is that’s the end of my Blandford Warriors.







Or is it … ?

Stay tuned to Ninjabread for more minis.  If you fancy your own set of Blandford Warriors they’re available from the excellent Wargames Foundry.

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Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Aetius, Owen and Dracula added 23rd August)
Post by: Bloggard on August 25, 2018, 02:42:24 PM
the quality of painting - and humour - is almost overwhelming in this thread  :-*

a little reassuring in terms of painter-envy, to see from your site that not only are you a PRO pro painter, but also an artist ... still, all the same, amazing free-hand on these tiny models.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Aetius, Owen and Dracula added 23rd August)
Post by: aircav on August 25, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
It’s been a fantastic thread & brilliant seeing these old Miniatures painted so excellently  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Aetius, Owen and Dracula added 23rd August)
Post by: Andym on August 26, 2018, 08:04:08 AM
That’s some great paint work on some classic figures! :-*
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Aetius, Owen and Dracula added 23rd August)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 26, 2018, 08:08:28 AM
Most excellent  8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Aetius, Owen and Dracula added 23rd August)
Post by: Jeff965 on August 26, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
A brilliant thread, loved it :-*
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Aetius, Owen and Dracula added 23rd August)
Post by: Utgaard on August 27, 2018, 07:43:51 AM
Absolutely fantastic painting and presentation - especially the pavise is just incredible  :-*
Title: The Unreleased Warhammer General
Post by: Curis on September 27, 2018, 12:54:11 PM
Thanks for all the comments!

This miniature is a mystery – an unreleased Warhammer treasure from the vaults of Citadel Miniatures.  Who is he?  Why have I got (perhaps) the only casting in existence?

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Could this be a dark horse on a dark horse?

This casting was a gift from Marcus Ansell of Wargames Foundry (thanks Marcus). The tab (“GENERAL” and “ ©  GW 1987″) shows its provenance as a piece of classic Warhammer – but beyond that everything else is a mystery.  Who sculpted it?  What range was it destined for?  Why was it not released?

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“A horse, a horse, my Romano-Germanic kingdom for a horse.”

The vibe of the figure is more historical than fantastical – the moustache, crested helm and scalemail give it a very Romano-Germanic kingdom vibe.  It feels like an Alan or Michael Perry sculpt judging by this face and care put into the armour detailing.  In fact it’s a bit too historically accurate to fit in with Citadel’s F3 Barbarian or F6 Barbarian Raider ranges, or the ADD21 Advanced Dungeons & Dragons mounted barbarian.  The closest thing released by Citadel are the F7 Mounted Barbarian Raiders.

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F7 Mounted Barbarian Raiders.  Image from solegends.

The Mounted Barbarian Raiders were released at a time when the line between historical and fantasy figures was blurred, with Warhammer’s Empire, Norse, Bretonnian and Dogs of War ranges doing double-service as various historical Europeans.  It’s conceivable that Citadel had plans for a Warhammer race with a strong Romano-Germanic design elements, and this General was a testpiece.

I gave my General one of the F7 horses as it’s coetaneous, and he deserves a bodyguard of these classics at a future point.  I modelled the horse forward on the raised base so that when the planned regiment ranks up he will ride slightly above and ahead.

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Then as I was researching colours a thought struck me.  Is this mystery figure a … Blandford Warrior?  He fits beautifully with the released Blandford Warriors in terms of style and scale.

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The 13th (Blandford) Warrior.

The Medieval Warlords book comprises seven chapters each detailing a different warlord, and Games Workshop released miniatures for only six of these characters.  The warlord that appears as a chapter but not a miniature was Genseric – general of one of the most famous Romano-Germanic kingdoms.  I think this figure could be him.

Genseric led the Vandals from the heartlands of the crumbling Roman Empire to Africa and around the Mediterranean region until they stormed Rome itself, looting its treaures. The incident stuck in the West’s poplar imagination, and ever since the word “vandal” has been a byword for destroying property.

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Genseric sacked Rome until politely asked to stop it by Pope Leo I, AD455.

I used the Karl Briullov painting above as the basis for my miniature’s colour scheme.  I love the satanically-black horse implying he’s the Pope’s archnemesis – but the menace is rather undermined by the pink leggings and ruby red shoes.

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I painted the shield with an Arianist symbol – I’d like to stress this was the form of Christianity that took off in the Romano-Germanic kingdoms and was named after Arius and NOTHING TO DO WITH ARYANISM.  (After all those “arian symbol german” google searches I think I’ve been put on a list.)

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Genseric and his bucellarius on the outskirts of Carthage.

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Not Genseric.

Regardless of the figure’s true identity, it’s now definitely part of my Late Imperial Roman army and will get some outings in SAGA when I’ve painted enough for a 4-point warband … coming soon.

If you’ve got any theories or information on the figure, please please let me know in the comments.

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Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: bluechi on September 27, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
very nice figure.....Geiserich....really interesting Person for Furor Teutonicus/ bellum barbaricus.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: aircav on September 27, 2018, 08:42:55 PM
Cracking figure, & a superb addition to your collection oh & of course fabulous painting 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: Keith on September 27, 2018, 09:08:30 PM
Beautifully done.
Definitely looks like a Perry sculpt to me.
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: Andym on September 28, 2018, 09:11:17 AM
Brilliant! You yet again show an amazing talent for bringing old, beat up lead, up to date and make them look stunning! :o
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on September 28, 2018, 11:05:37 AM
Followed your progress on Twitter, only recently found this thread here. Marvellous paintjobs, really brings these minis to life. Particularly enjoy that you tracked down some of the illustrations they were inspired by.

The latest addition is rather curious indeed. The miniature sports an accurately sculpted Roman Niedermörmter/Imperial Italic H helmet, even down to the missing cheek-guards of the only original on exhibition at Bonn. Also the scabbard has a distinctive Late Roman suspension, and clothes and shoes resemble the period's fashion.
Given these details and the Perrys' love for the period, it's most likely one of their sculpts. It could very well represent a 'sub-Roman' chieftain who uses fragments of Roman equipment – perhaps meant to supplement (or start?) a range of 'historically informed' barbarians? Maybe there's another McBride artwork yet to discover?

Anyway, cool stuff! 8)
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: Engel on October 01, 2018, 10:56:20 AM
This is just brilliant!

Love the "old man yells and cloud" inspiration...  lol
Title: Re: Curis' Normans and Medievals (Unreleased Citadel General, added 27th Sep)
Post by: Paul Richardson on October 01, 2018, 02:13:26 PM
I agree that the figure looks like a Perry sculpt. You could then contact the Perrys via the Perry Miniatures website and ask them about it. They might remember, although it was a long time ago and they've sculpted quite a few figures since 1987.