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Title: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 12, 2018, 04:11:02 PM: Hi all;

Most of you are probably aware from earlier posts that I am the author of Outremer: Faith and Blood; a new set of crusade era Skirmish rules that’s being published by Osprey in April. Anyway with publication getting closer I have started a dedicated blog where I can keep in contact with players; release updates and extra content!

https://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1 (https://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1)

Please feel free to have a look and drop me a comment!

Cheers

J
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Grimjack on January 12, 2018, 04:23:05 PM: Hi, still hoping to see more about the rules, perhaps get in touch on wayne.bollands@wargamesillustrated.net?
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 12, 2018, 06:46:06 PM: Email sent mate
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Ephrael on January 12, 2018, 11:57:50 PM: This game looks pretty interesting to me and is set in my favorite historical period. I’ll be following with interest.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 13, 2018, 01:42:36 PM: Thanks mate. Yeah the Crusades have always been my favourite period too, I just can’t get enough of them. I’m re-reading Robyn Young’s Brethren trilogy at the moment which are set during this time... highly recommended!
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Post by: delbruck on January 13, 2018, 02:22:07 PM: Sounds very interesting. With a game centered on the Crusades I am somewhat surprised there is only one Moslem faction, since the Seljuks and Fatamids had very different fighting styles. It would also be intesting to see a Byzantine faction.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 13, 2018, 03:04:43 PM: The size of the book is limited in order to fit in with the standard Osprey Format so as an author I had to make sure the manuscript fitted within the requisite space.

That being said at the warband/individual level of combat a man with a sword and armour will to a greater or lesser extent fight in a similar manner to another man likewise equipped from an entirely different army; especially when abstracted down to the 28mm Level.

Samurai; Knights and Legionaries when engaged in melee would have all had the same basic pattern of fighting... to bypass their enemy’s armour and cause death or debilitation. The same is true of modern warfare; at the individual level a British Infantryman and his counterparts across the globe will operate in a similar fashion... shooting the enemy at range; close the ground utilising cover and surpression fire and then if necessary engage and kill them with a bayonet. It’s only when we reach company level and above there is sufficient variation in tactics and SOPs for a noticeable difference (obviously basic training and discipline at lower formation level in different forces will be variable).

Have no fear though my plan is to filter out additional material on the Blog to expand players options and forces... and I do love a Byzantine. :)
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: SotF on January 18, 2018, 08:37:39 PM: Just kind of curious with regard to this, what is the listed basing situation.

Pics on the blog make it look like normal troops are 25mm rounds if I'm judging right.

Are mounted characters and such included in the ruleset, and are they on the round or cavalry bases? Meaning the oval bases or the 40mm round there
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 21, 2018, 02:15:52 PM: Hello mate; Good question.

I have test played it with 25mm Round bases for infantry and 40mm Round bases for cavalry. However that being said there is a degree of flexibility. So 25mm square bases for infantry would work fine, and oval bases (or even 25mm by 50mm rectangular bases) for cavalry would work.

As an aside I have put a second post on the new blog looking at Crusader warbands.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: SotF on January 22, 2018, 01:12:22 AM: Quote from: Legiocustodes on January 21, 2018, 02:15:52 PM
Hello mate; Good question.

I have test played it with 25mm Round bases for infantry and 40mm Round bases for cavalry. However that being said there is a degree of flexibility. So 25mm square bases for infantry would work fine, and oval bases (or even 25mm by 50mm rectangular bases) for cavalry would work.

As an aside I have put a second post on the new blog looking at Crusader warbands.

As a major suggestion, pick one for use.

My local store had enough trouble dealing with people basing for advantage with Ronin and a few other games that don't specify...especially if facing isn't a thing with free rotation.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 22, 2018, 05:59:02 AM: I have included guidance in the book which is 25mm (round or square) for infantry and 40mm round or 25mm-by-50mm rectangular for cavalry.

However I understand some players will want to use models from their collections that they have already based for other systems so when I play I personally allow a degree of flexibility for my opponents.

To be honest if I was playing against someone who specifically based their models on obscure 52mm dodecahedron bases just to get a slight advantage I probably wouldn’t play them again.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 22, 2018, 08:49:18 AM: Been a principle that's stood me in good stead for half a centuries wargaming...

I'd sooner cheat and lose...

Than play fair and win!

;D
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on January 22, 2018, 04:19:23 PM: Quote from: Harry Faversham on January 22, 2018, 08:49:18 AM
Been a principle that's stood me in good stead for half a centuries wargaming...

I'd sooner cheat and lose...

Than play fair and win!

;D

Haha! I might adopt this as my motto for work!!
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on February 04, 2018, 11:35:01 PM: I've done a fresh post on this Blog looking at Saracen warbands within the game!
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Codsticker on February 05, 2018, 05:13:27 PM: Quote from: Legiocustodes on February 04, 2018, 11:35:01 PM
I've done a fresh post on this Blog looking at Saracen warbands within the game!
Rinkydinkylinky?
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Jagannath on February 05, 2018, 05:37:23 PM: Lovely job - as a man interested in anything set in the desert I'm quite looking forward to this one.

By the by, lovely painting - minis look great.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on February 05, 2018, 07:44:12 PM: Cheers guys! I also love everything desert based so for me this was a labour of love!

As for the minis I decided early on that I wanted to paint every Miniature in he book so it was a real motivator to improve my own painitng standards!

Here’s the link: http://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/saracen-warbands-in-outremer-faith-and.html?m=1 (http://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/saracen-warbands-in-outremer-faith-and.html?m=1)
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Codsticker on February 05, 2018, 09:22:13 PM: Quote from: Legiocustodes on February 05, 2018, 07:44:12 PM

Here’s the link: http://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/saracen-warbands-in-outremer-faith-and.html?m=1 (http://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/saracen-warbands-in-outremer-faith-and.html?m=1)
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: SotF on February 05, 2018, 10:57:22 PM: Are there going to be subfactions or similar such as with crusader Templars or Hospitaliers?
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Post by: Legiocustodes on February 06, 2018, 05:32:17 PM: Quote from: SotF on February 05, 2018, 10:57:22 PM
Are there going to be subfactions or similar such as with crusader Templars or Hospitaliers?

Good question. So initially there will be three main factions for players to select their warband from. Crusaders, Saracens and Military Orders, however due to the character generation and progression system you should be able to reflect whatever sub-faction you’re thinking of. Remember the Osprey Games series of books follow a specific format with a set page limit so I had to make sure the rules fitted. My plan is to release sub-factions, new factions, special characters, etc as time progresses via Wargames magazines and the blog.
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: DavyJones on February 06, 2018, 07:43:28 PM: Sounds interesting. :)
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on February 24, 2018, 04:16:43 PM: I've written another post on the game's blog looking at the Military Order faction in Outremer: Faith and Blood:

https://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/military-order-warbands-in-outremer.html (https://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/military-order-warbands-in-outremer.html)
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Hu Rhu on February 24, 2018, 06:13:34 PM: JUst read your blog and was mightily impressed with the minis as well as the summary of the Military Orders. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on February 24, 2018, 07:01:49 PM: Cheers mate! I've really enjoyed painting all these models are part of this project...especially the Templars!
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on April 17, 2018, 10:15:09 AM: Hi Guys;

As the game is out this week (those of you who went to Salute night have picked it up early) I will be writing a series of posts going through gameplay and the like on the dedicated blog:

http://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/playing-outremer-faith-and-blood.html?m=0 (http://outremerfaithandblood.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/playing-outremer-faith-and-blood.html?m=0)

Also there are articles in Wargames, Soldiers and Strategy and Miniature Wargames this month both of which contain new scenarios and new Mercenary characters!! Worth a look!!
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: pws on April 17, 2018, 03:09:39 PM: Having tested the game, I'm looking forward to get the "real" book. :-*
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Slorm on April 17, 2018, 07:30:21 PM: what options are about using north barbarians, Baltic pagans, in the Baltic crusades with this ruleset?
Title: Re: Outremer: Faith and Blood - New blog
Post by: Legiocustodes on April 17, 2018, 08:45:14 PM: Cheers!

Initially the only three factions included are Saracens, Crusaders and Military Orders. Being an Osprey title there is a strict word limit and page count so there wasn’t room for any additional lists.
That being said I’m plannong on doing an expansion and the current forces are customisable enough to accommodate