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Title: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Charlie_ on March 07, 2018, 09:31:18 PM
I'm looking for some flock / static grass that would be appropriate to represent stubble fields.

Ones that I could place straw stacks (like the ones in the pic from Grandmanner) and patches of un-cut grass or wheat (door matt fields) on.  For terrain boards.

I'm guessing I'll just want some sort of wheat-coloured flock, but wondered if anyone has any other clever ideas or could point me in the direction of some good brands?

(https://www.grandmanner.co.uk/admin/thumbnail.php?width=240&height=240&src=/userfiles/images/sys/products/Small_Hay_Stacks_33605.jpeg)

Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 07, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
Cheap decorating brushes of the right colour cut up with a pair of scissors?
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Cubs on March 07, 2018, 10:05:31 PM
How much do you need? I've got a load of pale yellowy (with a hint of green) flock I bought for something or other and never got round to using. It's yours if you want it.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Charlie_ on March 07, 2018, 10:39:07 PM
Cheap decorating brushes of the right colour cut up with a pair of scissors?

That won't work I'm afraid, as I need it to be flat - it will be on a terrain board, which will be stored with another board on top. And I don't want it to disrupt placing figures either.

What got me to thinking of doing this was figure placement actually - I wanted some corn fields, and have seen the simple door matt approach work REALLY well... but I can't bring myself to have figures sitting on top of it, magically hovering above the corn!!! But those resin hay-stacks made me think - a field in the process of being harvested could be a great feature. As well as the stacks there could be patches of uncut wheat (small pieces of door matt) - if a unit is standing in one of the small patches they can just be easily re-arranged or removed.

How much do you need? I've got a load of pale yellowy (with a hint of green) flock I bought for something or other and never got round to using. It's yours if you want it.

That's very kind! I'm not actually planning to do this right now, so don't need it yet... but then again it never hurts to have stocked up in advance. Do you have any pic of it, or a link to the product itself?

Just done a little google search... these images show the scene I'll be going for! But in a medieval setting.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S2RiuOR65Yc/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://l450v.alamy.com/450v/hx791a/sheaves-of-wheat-piled-in-stacks-on-the-field-on-a-sunny-day-rural-hx791a.jpg)
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/old-harvest-tool-scythe-wooden-rake-retro-equipment-ready-use-to-drag-wheat-57950946.jpg)

Looking at them now, I guess I could use some long straw-coloured static grass for the crop lying on the ground before it's been raked together into stacks - it's fair to imagine the farmers running off with the job half done when they find an armed confrontation taking place on their land!
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 07, 2018, 10:41:30 PM
That won't work I'm afraid, as I need it to be flat - it will be on a terrain board, which will be stored with another board on top. And I don't want it to disrupt placing figures either.

My meaning was to cut it up into short strands that you can then glue to surface laying down.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Charlie_ on March 07, 2018, 10:51:39 PM
My meaning was to cut it up into short strands that you can then glue to surface laying down.

Ah yes of course, good idea.

In fact, it looks like someone has been having similar ideas!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ci3XGC_Cr9M/UPFSnalPlmI/AAAAAAAADG8/k9mAshrtcrY/s1600/Wheatfields+&+Irrigation+ditches+019.JPG)
http://wargamingwithsilverwhistle.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/making-haystacks-whilst-sun-shines.html

Guess I should have a look through his blog.... Looks like some good stuff.

But I'll definitely want a specific area of stubble on the terrain board itself, which the stacks, patches of wheat and field boundaries can be placed on. Something that will also work WITHOUT these features as bare ground / empty fields. I want to avoid obvious terrain bases for the stacks and wheat patches, and don't want them sitting on green fields.

Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Hammers on March 08, 2018, 09:23:42 AM
That is a great idea.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: SteveBurt on March 08, 2018, 10:01:52 AM
I've used straw-coloured bristles cut up and glued on thickly - looks like a cut wheat field.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Etranger on March 08, 2018, 10:35:23 AM
Woodland Scenics have suitable products https://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/FieldGrass

Other model railway scenic companies will have similar products.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Mindenbrush on March 14, 2018, 12:25:25 AM
I will second Silver Whistle's method of simulating the stubble, I used it for my wheat field in my KPW game at Historicon and a lot of people asked where I got the idea.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Dr. Zombie on March 14, 2018, 08:23:27 AM
Sisal rope cut in the required length and unwound. Would be a cheaper option than a brush I think. Also you can use the Sisal for making wire trees.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Codsticker on March 14, 2018, 07:17:38 PM
Another option is coconut fibre plant basket liner, such as this.one:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2Brw%2BxxTfL._SY400_.jpg)
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: SABOT on March 14, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
Here is my take on it. I used the moss sheet from garden centre as mentioned above. Added a bit of loose moss and then gave it a dry brush.

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Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: SABOT on March 14, 2018, 07:55:57 PM
Another view


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Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 14, 2018, 08:23:35 PM
That’s really effective  8)
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: FifteensAway on March 14, 2018, 11:14:35 PM
Love Sabot's scarecrow!  Cool.

For OP: Take fake fur, an electric hair trimmer, and 'buzz' cut the fir close to the backing cloth - but not too close.  Leave chunks in place as you like and clear 'paths' where you want for either paths or a patch of hay bales. 

And don't forget you can spray paint fake fur for a lot of different looks other than what comes off of the store shelf.
Title: Re: Flock for stubble fields?
Post by: Grimmnar on March 30, 2018, 08:54:09 AM
https://youtu.be/neAbGyHFFUE Hay bales, square
https://youtu.be/ky39Y1P02A4 Hay bales, round in the field
I always liked these two vids from Luke Towan.
And these are modern type bales.

Grimm