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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: ARKOUDAKI on March 29, 2018, 01:41:02 AM
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So let's speculate....what does everyone think the Perry Twins will unveil for Salute in the plastic range?
It has been speculated elsewhere that the Twins will unveil 2-3 boxes of forthcoming plastics at Salute, possibly focusing on Medieval and Napoleonic periods. This would be in addition to the release of their Nap Chasseurs a Cheval cavalry set (a must have!!!!!!!!!!!).
Given they have done a lot of Medievals already what is left to do? They have done plenty of infantry, and even some cavalry....so what is left to do? This is not my period - although I dabble - so I really don't know.
As for Napoleonic's, well the Chasseurs a Cheval are long overdue, and will be most welcome. I would guess that a box of plastic Portuguese might be a possibility, as the Warlord ones are not so good (I know, I have a box sitting collecting dust.... :'( ). I would also guess another box of cavalry, perhaps something for the Austrians, Russians, etc....although not sure if these would be big sellers compared to something British...like a box of heavy cavalry. Such a box could cover both early and later uniforms, with different torsos and heads. Just like the Perry's did for their Lt Dragoon box. Possible.
So again, what do all of you think the Perry brothers will unveil at Salute??? Let the speculation begin!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do they have a plastics box of British to counter the plastic Zulus? Seems like they tend to release opposing factions as plastics. I haven't been keeping track of Perry releases.
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Do they have a plastics box of British to counter the plastic Zulus? Seems like they tend to release opposing factions as plastics. I haven't been keeping track of Perry releases.
A box of Irish Americans would be the obvious choice for plastics.
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Do they have a plastics box of British to counter the plastic Zulus? Seems like they tend to release opposing factions as plastics. I haven't been keeping track of Perry releases.
They do, and they come with home service helmets as well.
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Marlburian ;)
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Given they have done a lot of Medievals already what is left to do? They have done plenty of infantry, and even some cavalry....so what is left to do? This is not my period - although I dabble - so I really don't know.
The obvious (and lon) addition would be plastic cavalry set for their 1415-1429 range, which only contains infantry sets at the moment.
On the colonial front, some people would probably be happy to see plastic Pathans for Afganistan.
On the Napoleonics, I don't think they have done any artillery in plastic.
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Spanish cavalry with lots of head variants and lancer arms
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SYW Prussians..................
Pretty please :D
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Marlburian ;)
SYW Prussians..................
Pretty please :D
These! ;D
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On the colonial front, some people would probably be happy to see plastic Pathans for Afganistan.
Perry Miniatures were kind enough to reply back to my email today with the following reply: 'Nothing planned plastic Afghan wise, although you never know'.
So its a no for now, maybe one day if we're lucky!
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1415-1429 Mounted Men at Arms have already been promised about two years ago.
Given that the WOTR range has two sets of cavalry, I have no idea why the Agincourt cavalry have not appeared yet.
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Little birds have pointed me in the renaissance direction. A new range like 30 years war perhaps.
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Samurai and ashigaru ;D
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They had 3 ups at Hamburg Tactica which looked like 30 years war.
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They had 3 ups at Hamburg Tactica which looked like 30 years war.
ECW/TYW in plastic made by the Perrys would be great!
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Shame about the plastic Pathans. Ah well. It was always one of my bets that they would do those eventually. Along with Landsknechts, which would be a logical extension to the European Armies 1450 - 1500 range. We shall see.
HYW mounted have indeed long been promised, but like most sculptors, Alan and Michael seem to do what interests them at the time, and I sense they have moved on from the HYW as an area of interest for now.
No doubt there will be yet more Napoleonics... ::)
WW2 Italians or US are a possibility I feel. The fact that they've previously released an extensive range in metal has been no bar to them then bringing out a plastic set covering the same ground. They've done that with a number of ranges already - metals first, then plastics.
So yes, I could see them going for ECW/TYW in plastic. The Warlord plastic ECW sets are not great IMHO - weirdly stylised - so I think there would be a market.
The Perry plastic speculation never ceases to be fun though - the gift that keeps on giving lol
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Ecw foot and horse would seem obvious.
Or maybe foot and horse for marlburian.
But my best guess is mounted agincourt knights.
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I think the will do nothing for Salute. Fact is, that renedra is absolutly full with new things, Peter Dennis didn't show something at Tactica (He did the last years or he didn't came because he was not ready with his work). Portugues is not so mass compatible, for Medieval they came only with the irish as filler for the range. Maybe some Napoleonic cavalry is possible, but really realistic so short after the zulus????
I think the expectations are bigger than the real chance....
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a herd of plastic bison :D ::)
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The Perry plastic speculation never ceases to be fun though - the gift that keeps on giving lol
Always happy to provide you with entertainment Richard! ;)
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ECW/TYW in plastic made by the Perrys would be great!
Yip, great loss for my wallet :D
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I think the will do nothing for Salute....
Usually the Twins showoff some 3-ups for plastics that will not see the light of day as a box of plastics for 6-12 months. Hence, while the Nap Chasseurs a Cheval are definitely going to be released (a great looking box I think!), I don't think there will be anything else. That is the thing, as we are 'speculating' about what is coming...as all of us like to dream about what could be! ;D
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Perrys have been revealing their plans for upcoming (previously unknown) plastic sets in Salute at least since 2013 by showing three-ups. These have occasionally taken people quite by surprise, and these are what we are speculating about this thread.
They also sometimes release some of their plastic sets for market first at Salute, but these sets are unlikely to cause major surprise, because the Perrys tend to preview them well ahead.
Speaking of Napoleonics, I recall that at some past Salute Perrys showed three-ups for a second plastic Napoleonic Prussian infantry set, that has since then disappeared into some mysterious development limbo (maybe the first one did not sell enough?).
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So, are their pictures of these possible 30 years war figures from Tactica already?
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Speaking of Napoleonics, I recall that at some past Salute Perrys showed three-ups for a second plastic Napoleonic Prussian infantry set, that has since then disappeared into some mysterious development limbo (maybe the first one did not sell enough?).
Yes, we were suppose to get a box of Nap Prussian Reservists as well as Russian Guard Infantry....but neither has appeared yet despite some masters being done. I also recall Alan telling me he had done Pre-1812 French Dragoons around the same time they released the Post-1812 ones. That would be a good seller, as you need loads of Dragoons! I really hope that one day we see these MIA sets of Nap plastic....but if the money isn't there in terms of sales volume, well then, I understand why they would hold off on releases.
I do hope the Perry's do some Nap Artillery, as their ACW one was really nicely done.
The comments above about TYW caught me by surprise but you never know with the Twins!
So keep SPECULATING people! ;D
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Napoleonic french infantry in Pre-1812 uniform :-*
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So who's got pictures from Hamburger Tactica??????
Let's see these ECW/TYW 3-ups!
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Yes, pre-1812 French Infantry!!!!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
As for Tactica 2018, I wasn't there but did find these photos...you can see a few of the Perry's at work but it is hard (impossible really) to see what they are doing. That said, if you look at the photo in the glass case, bottom row, are those Crimean figs or something else off to the left?
Surely people were there and have some better photos they can share with us all.....pretty please...
Original Photos: http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/index.php/nggallery/page/3?p=14644&lang=en
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ECW would make sense as it would almost certainly boost sales of their existing metal range.
Marlburian era infantry would make me very happy but I’d rate that as a long shot.
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Thanks for the photos. The 3-ups by Michael's elbow look a bit ECW-y don't they? Hard to tell though.
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That said, if you look at the photo in the glass case, bottom row, are those Crimean figs or something else off to the left?
Franco-Prussian War? Or something to supplement the plastic Victorian (AZW) British infantry?
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ECW/TYW would make a lot of sense.
WSS would be interesting to me but my gut feeling tells me they won't launch into a new period. So I guess that means they probably will…
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Plastic ECW/TYW will look great and be useful for a lot of different theatres.
But anything new other than Medievals or Napoleonics would make for an exciting change.
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Thanks for putting up the photos :) Hmm they only have a whiff of ECW about those three ups. I really love a box of TYW/ECW plastics but personally I'm not convinced it will happen. I'm not sure it's a particularly popular subject and there are quite a few existing ranges already.
It struck me last night that there are no plastic Elizabethans so I wonder if they might do something like that or possibly later Tudors to serve along side all the already available Lansknechts?
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You think ECW is not a commercial proposition but you hold hopes they would do something as niche as Elizabethans? lol
Well you are in luck. They sculpted a range for Foundry in the 1980s and they are still available.
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Keep an eye on TAG for renaissance they have late Landsknecht in Pluderhosen being made and also Dutch AND Spanish Tercios on the way. They also have early valoise French and early Tudors which will be able to be mixed in for later period e.g. Border Horse and such
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Im not fussed either way by Elizabethans. It just occurred to me that the Perry twins might have thought their was an unfilled gap in the market. They do like to follow their own whims after all.
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As has been said, Salute releases are usually up for pre-order around now, so I'm guessing 3-ups might be it.
I'm fairly confident of 'Agincourt to Orleans' knights/cavalry - rumoured for a long time and work had progressed to some extent.
I'd put ECW as a probable for a new period in plastic. I've yet to see plastics that don't already have a metal range of some form and the Perry's have had that right from the start.
WW2 is a definite possibility, I know of a few people wanting Italians and to a lesser extent French. U.S. troops for Operation Torch (and then Sicily) makes sense too, it's the next step on from the Desert.
My wild stab in the dark, or what I'd like to see and might actually be likely, would be Swiss/Early Landsknechts to complement the existing WotR range.
A mould for a plastic sprue is something in the region of c. £10k, so a surprise release without testing the waters with some metals first is very unlikely to say the least. So odds are things that will sell by the bucket load are most likely.
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I'd love to see ECW/TYW and/or Marlburians, but I'm not holding my breath. My dream would be TYW Swedes (because of their longer jackets, they'd have to be a bespoke set) but I'm sure they won't be doing them. My guess would be something medieval.
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+1 for Bison, including some extras, like skins drying on a frame also skulls & bones.
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I'd love to see a 28mm version of their border reiver stuff.
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Some good ideas! However, doesn't anyone have close-up photos of whatever Michael and Alan were working on at the 'Tactica' show???? Someone surely took more photos.....so share.... ;)
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Perhaps something completely unexpected like plastic pirates, multi part naval figures?
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I wonder whether they will do something that allows them to more fully 'own' a period, so that they can put a full 'starter set' out in the same way that they did with the ACW battle box. They have a head start on medieval and wars of the roses stuff, including the medieval cottage, so perhaps something to fill that out for a big box set.
Outside of that, adding Austrian Napoleonic artillery might be a good seller for them.
For a brand new period in plastic - chariot armies are begging.
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Outside of that, adding Austrian Napoleonic artillery might be a good seller for them.
They do already have six gun crews (ok only two sets of poses), plus eight limber/caisson teams, and the Handlanger!
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War of 1812 US infantry... ;D ;D
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Talked a lot with the Perrys at Tactica and can confirm that they will bring a box of later hundred years war cavalry. But as Alan said: "Michael will do them eventually, but don't expect them too soon ..." So probably some more years to wait. And sadly no new horses in standing stances.
The three-ups have been some Elisabethans. BUT, not for a forthcoming box, but rather a small sideproject, also no release plan, if at all. Although Michael did a nice self portrait on one of the figures ...
Apart from that, Napoleonics as usual. ;)
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Talked a lot with the Perrys at Tactica and can confirm that they will bring a box of later hundred years war cavalry. But as Alan said: "Michael will do them eventually, but don't expect them too soon ..." So probably some more years to wait. And sadly no new horses in standing stances.
The three-ups have been some Elisabethans. BUT, not for a forthcoming box, but rather a small sideproject, also no release plan, if at all. Although Michael did a nice self portrait on one of the figures ...
Apart from that, Napoleonics as usual. ;)
Admiral Benbow, come on....I mean, did you subject the Twins to water boarding and all to find out their plans??? Any photos???
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Elizabethans?
So given that I identified those three ups correctly, can the person who mocked my suppositions please eat their words?! :D ;D
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Happily. It will remain to be seen if they are a wholly metal range like the Carlists or actually in plastic. Their niche, ‘I did cos it just appealed to me’ ranges do tend to be in metal for obvious reasons, vis Mafeking, Carlists, British Intervention, etc, etc.
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Admiral Benbow, come on....I mean, did you subject the Twins to water boarding and all to find out their plans??? Any photos???
Photos? Of the water boarding? No, man, not at all!
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Elizabeathans would be fine - their Wars of Religion range they did for Citadel many years ago is still one of my favourites.
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Elizabeathans would be fine - their Wars of Religion range they did for Citadel many years ago is still one of my favourites.
Yup would also fit in with their Irish kerns and gallowglass and may also see some border horse etc. Nice to see them updating and revisiting their old citadel ranges too
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Whilst everyone is busy fulminating over plastics, I don't suppose whether anyone questioned the twins about any prospective releases from Blitzkrieg Miniatures ? ???
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They may be good pals to the twins and occasionally work in collaboration with them, but Blitzkrieg Miniatures are a different company and it probably wouldn't be appropriate for Alan and Michael to announce their future releases. But you can check the Blitzkrieg FB page for updates and ask questions there if you feel like it :
http://www.facebook.com/Blitzkrieg-Miniatures-430200807012644/ (http://www.facebook.com/Blitzkrieg-Miniatures-430200807012644/)
From the look of it, it's Cold War stuff all the way at the moment chez Blitzkrieg, with WW2 on the back burner for now.
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Would think that earlier French Napoleonic infantry may be a good shout for a plastic box, given that the 1815 metal range has now diversified into pre 1812, & the new Chasseur a Cheval fit into that time span.
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http://www.facebook.com/Blitzkrieg-Miniatures-430200807012644/ (http://www.facebook.com/Blitzkrieg-Miniatures-430200807012644/)
From the look of it, it's Cold War stuff all the way at the moment chez Blitzkrieg, with WW2 on the back burner for now.
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Thanks Arthur, I didn't realise they had a Fb page until you pointed it out. Looks like we have to rely on Rubicon instead for the time being for WW2 stuff.
As for the Perrys I speculate Landschnekts or Elizabethans and HYW cavalry sometime in the next 12 months. Sadly no WW2 Italians.
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early landsknechts or badish/würtenberger napis for pensisular would be great.
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Where did that Napoleonic Portuguese signal station come from?
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I also think the Nap 'Pre-1812' French Infantry is long overdue and would be a really good seller! I also said the same about the Chasseurs a Cheval some years back but it has taken this long to get them out. Still, looking at the frames, well worth the wait!
I am also hoping a box of Nap Portuguese Infantry will come out at Salute. I know Warlord does some - and I bought some too - but they are just not up to par with what I know the Twins can produce. I am also still hoping for a box of plastic Nap Bavarians too!!!!!!! ;) Oh, and definitely a box of plastic NWF Afghans/Pathans as well as a box of WW2 Italians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One can dream....
Still nobody else with photos or further info from the 'Tactica 2018' show????
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I think the Twins will do some total new stuff, danish for 1864.
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I think the Twins will do some total new stuff, danish for 1864
I think someone has been exposed to too many toxic paint fumes! ;D
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I think the Twins will do some total new stuff, danish for 1864.
http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=204&page=1
and Eureka has some, too ;)
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War of Jenkins' Ear Bavarian kettledrummers (dismounted, obviously).
Yes, an entire box of them.
No, I haven't been drinking.
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Funny, 'bicycling Bavarian oompah band' was a phrase I and my writing-partner used as a catch-all for outlandish and improbable units in the Interwar era. Bavariaphobia is rife it seems.
;)
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Surprised nobody has made one for VBCW purposes.
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I think someone has been exposed to too many toxic paint fumes! ;D
They play very often with Mr. Aly, so I think they talked about it. ;)
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Still amazed no better pictures have shown up!
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In Napoleonics - a box of Mamelouk or Ottoman horse for Egypt would be a great boost, make perfect sense - you need so many of them - would be so useful for all sorts of things and be the best news since your parents told you that the blonde with the big bazookas was the new baby-sitter....
But then - I am obsessed - and by the Ottomans not the blonde with the...
One can always dream...
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A box of animals, no two boxes.
1) Africa. Elephant, giraffe, hippo etc. Very popular for all the colonial games now out there.
2) Europe. Cows, sheep, pigs, wolves etc. Useful for ECW (possibly earlier) through to near future/ zombie games.
Would be a lot cheaper than the metal alternatives, better for conversions (use any spare heads for standards), useful
for a multitude of periods, and lighter for herd multi-bases.
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A box of animals, no two boxes.
1) Africa. Elephant, giraffe, hippo etc. Very popular for all the colonial games now out there.
2) Europe. Cows, sheep, pigs, wolves etc. Useful for ECW (possibly earlier) through to near future/ zombie games.
Would be a lot cheaper than the metal alternatives, better for conversions (use any spare heads for standards), useful
for a multitude of periods, and lighter for herd multi-bases.
I am sure I have seen a plastic sprue of Europeon animals either here or on Facebook... someone is doing them, but I cannot remember who it is (it's certainly not the Perrys).
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The last ones (plastic that is) I remember were Airfix!
Zoo animals (set 1 & set 2) and about half the Tarzan set. They, along with copious boxes of Robin Hood
provided most of my early WRG armies, but that was many moons ago and 20mm.
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Pegasus miniatures have a farm animals box.
They are labelled in 1/48 but are usefull for 28mm as long as their izba houses more suitable for 28mm than 20mm.
Great Escape is selling that box.
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The last ones (plastic that is) I remember were Airfix!
Zoo animals (set 1 & set 2) and about half the Tarzan set. They, along with copious boxes of Robin Hood
provided most of my early WRG armies, but that was many moons ago and 20mm.
I had those too lol
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I think it's Warlord that do the plastic animals?
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I think it's Warlord that do the plastic animals?
Yes, they are available from them. I got two sprues the other day, and they are quite nice.
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Thanks, I will have to look up those packs, especially the Warlord one.
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Drat & double drat!
Not an elephant, giraffe or hippo to be seen. Great for cows, sheep etc. but not anything for Africa.
Does anyone else spot a gap in the market place?
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So, Mr. Aly Morrison could keep the secret with his plan for the Partizan. The Perry’s and Aly Morrison will do a 40mm Plastic set for the Great War. British, also usable as Portuguese. They will show them at the Salute and release the short after Partizan. Than in February the Germans in 40mm....
;) lol
Ok, after the Sexpistols great Rock‘n‘roll-swindle this could be the great Salute-Swindle.....
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HYW mounted knights and American WW2 according to Facebook
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Yep. Just seen them and had a quick chat with Michael and Alan. HYW mounted knights next. US WW2 Mediterranean theatre next after that. The knights will have the existing medieval plastic horses but with some new heads, and the riders may well be in two halves to allow further intermixing of parts. Yay :)
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For me I have little in the way of speculation.
So I'll just say what I'd like to see.
Plastic AWI continental militia.
Plastic NAP Dutch and Belgian line and plastic dutch Militia
Plastic NAP Marching British line (heads to do Scottish in trousers and Hanoverians)
Plastic NAP Marching Highland Line (kilts)
A range of 1812 Americans
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Richard - Will there be cloth Caparisons to cover the horses?
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Sorry Mick, didn't ask that. Alan said that whilst the horse frame will be the same as the WOTR one (already used in the MMAA and Light Cav sets) there will be extra horse heads with different chamfrons on the frame.
Whether that will also include cloth caparisons, in the same way they included armoured barding on the WOTR MMAA frame, I'm not sure. The Horses shown as greens at Salute today didn't have any.
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Some photos of the new Perry plastics
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And some more photos....
FYI, Alan says these Knights will be the next plastics into production (no date yet).
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FYI, Alan says these Knights will be the next plastics into production (no date yet).
Here are the WW2 Americans done by Michael....still a long way to go on these but should be a really useful set...I wanted Italians but....well...one day....
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Please give me a link to the photo from Salute 2018. I live very, very far from London.
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Hmmm. More US infantry in Parsons jackets. :-[
I was hoping that they would do them in HBT fatigues, so they could do double duty for Torch and the SW Pacific. No such luck. Oh well, they woulf have been too small to go wit my Eureka Australians anyway so money saved.
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Michael said that it's possible that Alan may include a caparsioned horse - although they weren't really common in this period, I am sure it would be a popular addition to the box.
Also horse heads with chamfrons- like the so called Warwick one (in Royal Armouries I think?)
Can now start planning FRnech army for Patay.
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Hmmm. More US infantry in Parsons jackets. :-[
I was hoping that they would do them in HBT fatigues, so they could do double duty for Torch and the SW Pacific. No such luck. Oh well, they woulf have been too small to go wit my Eureka Australians anyway so money saved.
Never mind Carlos, its good news all round. Onwards and upwards!
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Interesting to note on the Warlord stand that they had greens for new plastic sets for Desert Rats and Afrika Korps. Alas, they won't be compatible with the Perry versions, since they will no doubt be full fat 28mm rather than 'true 1/56', and have the rather more caricatured appearance Warlord's WW2 sculptors seem to prefer.
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Interesting to note on the Warlord stand that they had greens for new plastic sets for Desert Rats and Afrika Korps. Alas, they won't be compatible with the Perry versions, since they will no doubt be full fat 28mm rather than 'true 1/56', and have the rather more caricatured appearance Warlord's WW2 sculptors seem to prefer.
They also look like pretty shit sculpts.
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So the WWII guys could be used for Normandy?
I've had a hankering for anatomically more correct figures to do skirmish bocage. Currently there is only Mr Barton's 20mm offering. Although I'm currently painting some of the Perry metal Spanish Napoleonics - and anatomically correct they are not (more like anorexic pre-pubescent schoolkids - no waist no hips, no buttocks to speak of).
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Interesting to note on the Warlord stand that they had greens for new plastic sets for Desert Rats and Afrika Korps. Alas, they won't be compatible with the Perry versions, since they will no doubt be full fat 28mm rather than 'true 1/56', and have the rather more caricatured appearance Warlord's WW2 sculptors seem to prefer.
I would have much preferred Warlord to release plastic italians to replace the existing metal ones instead of the brits and afrika korps which many would still not buy because they would choose the Perry ones. For that matter, I would have also preferred the Perry twins to do plastic italians instead of the GIs. Obviously I understand that from a marketing point of view italians won't sell as much as us, brits and germans but it seems they don't get fair attention.
PS I'm not Italian! lol
On the medieval sector, I like the hyw cavalry - would love a caparisoned horse in the sprue! :D
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Interesting to note on the Warlord stand that they had greens for new plastic sets for Desert Rats and Afrika Korps. Alas, they won't be compatible with the Perry versions, since they will no doubt be full fat 28mm rather than 'true 1/56', and have the rather more caricatured appearance Warlord's WW2 sculptors seem to prefer.
That's kind of you, I would have said cartoonish. Certainly they often tend more towards "Beano" than they do to their namesake comic "Warlord". 'Full Fat' is the word too, I'm pretty sure some of their sculptors get WWII Re-enactors to model for them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/WGB-AK-23-Afrika-Korps-motorcycle-_-sidecar-a_grande.jpg?v=1397473461)
I imagine the rules for the .50 MP 40 should be popular, but not so much the clown's m/c they're riding; roll a 1 and the wheels fly off.
;)
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Isn’t that Dennis and Gnasher in the photo?
One must be fair here. The Perry brothers also released a mini-bike combo, that was widely derided so they withdrew it.
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I think the Rubicon one is going to take some beating... ;)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/29/577_29_07_17_3_06_37_1.jpg)
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There seems to be an interrupt between bike builders and figure makers across the board, perhaps due to the model maker working to a scale and the figure makers not so much. That said, Warlord, Perry and yes, even Rubicon too, are all making the wheels too small. They should be at or above knee height in the riding position and with hardly any space between front wheel and engine.
The Tamiya 1/48 one looks right proportionately, but I've no idea how it would look with Perry Crew (not that you can get them separate anyway). Warlord's chunky monkeys might be a closer fit though (same issue).
Anyhoo, its old ground we've covered before, as Carlos says, with regard to the Perry model a while back and of course this is the BB Board, so we could be outliving our welcome with our mechanicky chat.
;)
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I would have said cartoonish. Certainly they often tend more towards "Beano" than they do to their namesake comic "Warlord". 'Full Fat' is the word too, I'm pretty sure some of their sculptors get WWII Re-enactors to model for them.
;)
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Isn't the owner a rather very , very big gentlemen . Maybe this more a reflection in today's super size
Burger nations of the western world . The average Tommy /Fritz was a a waif compared to know ,nearer to Dickensian than this century in bulk.
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Guys are a bit hard on Warlord. I prefer the Perry stuff too but Warlord has a certain stylized charm and they have been very good to us as 28mm WW2 collectors. I never would have dreamed 15 years ago when I was playing Battleground WW2 that we would ever have the kind of choices for 28mm we have today. I think Warlord is going for something more like the Sgt. Rock comics. The notion that if a figure's goal isn't to match a standard of photographic realism and proportion they are "shit" is a bit prosaic if you ask me. Sculpting is indeed an art and therefore there will be different styles. I can't stand a lot of the figures "sculpted" in CAD because they often completely lack this very sort of stylization that gives them character. I like the new Warlord Winter Germans and Soviets and will likely use them for Stalingrad gaming...
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Warlord Plastics have a chunky Styling which mixes in well with many of the popular metal ranges such as Artizan, Black Tree and Crusader.
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So now we know what was at Salute, but we still don't know what was at Hamburg. Because those weren't Agincourt knights or WW2 Yanks!
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So now we know what was at Salute, but we still don't know what was at Hamburg. Because those weren't Agincourt knights or WW2 Yanks!
Read Admiral Benbow's posts on page four of this very thread.
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Reading back, Admiral Benbow was actually rather cagey as to what it was he in fact saw at Hamburg. And rightly so. Back in the 1990s, I recall someone telling anybody who would listen that Tony Barton was making SYW Prussians - for he had seen them with his own eyes.
Poor old Tony B was bombarded with SYW (and other 18th Century) wishlists, right up to the moment he released his........1806 Jena Prussians.
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Guys are a bit hard on Warlord. I prefer the Perry stuff too but Warlord has a certain stylized charm and they have been very good to us as 28mm WW2 collectors. I never would have dreamed 15 years ago when I was playing Battleground WW2 that we would ever have the kind of choices for 28mm we have today. I think Warlord is going for something more like the Sgt. Rock comics. The notion that if a figure's goal isn't to match a standard of photographic realism and proportion they are "shit" is a bit prosaic if you ask me. Sculpting is indeed an art and therefore there will be different styles. I can't stand a lot of the figures "sculpted" in CAD because they often completely lack this very sort of stylization that gives them character. I like the new Warlord Winter Germans and Soviets and will likely use them for Stalingrad gaming...
The chunkiness isn’t my main beef. I have Artizan and Crusader figures, with which I am quite happy, they are after all a dream to paint. What irritates me about Walord is the variable, almost random, quality of what they produce. Inaccuracies abound, the right amount of kit is not provided and the variation in figure size and sculpting quality is all over the place. Some of their figures are quite useable. Somecof their older, now being replaced ranges were, in fact, quite nice.
OK, they aren’t a single sculptor manufacturer but there isn’t much of a ‘house style’, save for the increasingly comic faces. Their research is bad at least compared to other manufacturers. Really basic errors that seem to betray a get it out quickly at all costs approach. I could add the fact that they retail their pkastic vehicles at about about a 30% mark up over the identical Italaeri co-productions.
It’s true that they have produced a breadth of product unimaginable a few years ago and they are to be congratulated for that. I just wish they woukd make some effort towards quality control.
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I would have much preferred Warlord to release plastic italians to replace the existing metal ones instead of the brits and afrika korps which many would still not buy because they would choose the Perry ones. For that matter, I would have also preferred the Perry twins to do plastic italians instead of the GIs. Obviously I understand that from a marketing point of view italians won't sell as much as us, brits and germans but it seems they don't get fair attention.
I have to agree with you, although I fear I would have to think long and hard about buying any plastic figures from Warlord, even if they were Italians with options for Bersaglieri, Alpini and MVSN heads to boot, simply because I don't like their figures facial expressions or their 'heft' when compared to the Perry Desert Rats and DAK. Now if the Perrys had brought out a box of Italians with separate head options I'd be doing cartwheels. Some marines and Folgore wouldn't have gone amiss either.