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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: robh on March 30, 2018, 11:00:18 PM

Title: WW2 aerial combat without tracking altitude/attitude.
Post by: robh on March 30, 2018, 11:00:18 PM
Has anyone come across air combat rules for WW2 similar to the modern set "Bandits 2"?
No ugly flight stands, obtrusive dice or awful piles of lego pieces.

The nearest I can find is TAC with the card counters, does anyone play these?
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat without tracking altitude/attitude.
Post by: Mako on March 31, 2018, 08:20:52 AM
I suspect you can use many rules sets without those, if desired.

Supposedly, years ago, some people were working on a WWII version of the AirWar: C21, jet age rules.  Don't recall seeing any recent updates for that.

Due of Eagles, which does permit 3-D movement/flight stands, could easily be gamed in 2-D.  I've done it.  It has curved turning templates measured off in cms., for movement/turning, similar to X-Wing, though the game rules pre-date that.  Different turn rates for "classes" of aircraft types, and some I don't necessarily agree with, per the A/C stats table, but those are easily tweaked to one's liking.

If doing 2-D turning, I'd add in pilot skill modifiers, and require them to pass a skill test die roll to permit guys in a dogfight to turn one level tighter than normal, if successful.  Fail, and you spin out of control.

I suspect there are some others too - quickplay, beer and pretzels rules, sold by Tumbling Dice, etc..  Can't think of their titles right now, but they're worth a look too.

I really like Duel's gunnery, and damage charts, since I think they work fairly well, as does their initiative system too, for dogfighting.  For larger games, just roll initiative for pairs, vics, or flights of four aircraft, instead of for each aircraft.
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat without tracking altitude/attitude.
Post by: robh on March 31, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
Thanks. I will give QRF a shout for a copy and have a look at a 2D approach.