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Title: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 16, 2018, 05:38:35 AM
Hi all,

Just a sneak peak at my upcoming 2mm print-on-demand Renaissance range...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mcRsFPrJaTc/WtQy1sIHooI/AAAAAAAACXA/uZa6C3bM8jcXBhgDxfheio8PBOm2MLxaACLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-15%2Bat%2B10.16.33%2BPM.png)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bYtr5_S9iK8/WtQy1jTJuOI/AAAAAAAACW8/7Nm5RhtgQ6sVhEGr_dH5NOuePYPY1GR5wCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-15%2Bat%2B10.16.59%2BPM.png)

The first model above is 100mm wide and 80mm deep, the one below it is 70mm wide and 60mm deep.  Both models contain over 600 individual pike tips, which despite the fine scale and crisp detail are nevertheless extremely durable and resistant to damage.  For those who haven't seen Shapeways plastic up close, it is much tough than either pewter or hard plastic.

Many more of these will be coming, and a few are already available in my Shapeways store:

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/forwardmarchstudios

I am basing my formations and units on period woodblock cuttings, so there will be many, many more versions of these pike-and-shot units, in many sizes and formations.  My goal is to have as exhaustive a collection of period tactical deployments as I can, stretching from the Thirty Years War and ECW through the GNW. 

The new version of my figures have larger, more robust bases, better resolution and finer detail than the old ones.  An example of the new models can bee seen here:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--pxfYL5zDik/Wra-S-qktvI/AAAAAAAACVw/K_p3DEekNukma-gCQ8qVE1XFzqmUtCVcQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG-0595.JPG)

These are the Horse and Musket figures, but the individual figures in the Renaissance range are the same.  These French infantry are mounted on 40mm wide bases.   For those who missed it, the original Renaissance figures looked like this:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s6w6OCJ-Bxk/WWM063rbPCI/AAAAAAAAB38/VWsrIDY2zwY-5wdlpI5hYCnWep82NVU7wCLcBGAs/s1600/Pike%2Bblcok%2Bexperiment.jpg)

The new range is broadly the same, except the figures are on slightly thicker bases, and with better detail.  The shot are the biggest improvement; they'll use the new infantry models.  The pike are almost unchanged, although slightly taller.

More updates as they come.  Let me know if anyone has any requests for tactical deployments!   I have a list, but I can always use some more ideas!

And, if you've purchased some of the older versions, don't worry; they should work fine with the new ones.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: robh on April 16, 2018, 04:51:22 PM
Those bases look really good. If you get enough variant deployments they would be perfect for the "Tercios" rules.
The formations they use for the different historic deployments are here:
http://elkraken.es/released/en/basing-guide/

Are your non pike infantry limited to shoulder to shoulder or can you do a 3 rank unit of 2 rear formed and 1 front staggered as if advancing/skirmishing? Thinking that ACW big battle games would be great in this scale.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 16, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
Hi Rob-

Yes, I've done skirmish models like that before.  Very do-able.  That's a good idea actually; I'll try to put something like that together and post it up here. 

The Tercio rules are a nice guide- I can definitely do something like that.  In fact, I'm going to try to get some figures out very shortly that allow you to do Marston Moor at a relatively affordable scale, with each infantry unit on a 60mm base with 1/3 pike and 2/3 shot.  The cavalry can be recreated using the basic cavalry models (although I do plan on putting together a 3 rank cavalry model at the very least, for the SYW). These could also be used for the GNW, of course.

I also want to do a model of a tercio with cavalry marching alongside it instead of infantry; I've seen this in woodblock prints and it looks very cool.  I've also got a "leveled pike" block that I'm working on that looks pretty cool, if I do say so myself.  I have yet to test the printability of it, but I'm fairly confident that it'll work. Lancer cavalry are another model that I've really improved upon; these will be invaluable for showing men-at-arms and other lance-armed cav, and coud obviously be used for a lot of different periods.

I'll be getting out most of the basic stuff in the new range over the next week or two.  This includes 20mm, 30mm, 40mm and 60mm bases for the infantry in 2, 3 and 4 ranks.   The cavalry will come in the same sizes.  After that's done, I'll be putting out a few more artillery codes, including sprues of caissons, limbers and supply wagons.  During this period I'll be adding to the Renaissance figures as well. 

Once I'm done with just those models most units from the WSS to the FPW will be possible. By using difference sized bases you could do entire large battles with smaller, single bases units, or smaller battles with very large battalions. 

Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Goliad on April 16, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
Ancients next?
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: fred on April 16, 2018, 06:38:07 PM
These do look very effective.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: DivisMal on April 16, 2018, 08:01:32 PM
Wow. That actually looks pretty good. I always regretted that battles as we have from written sources for the 30 years war were impossible to depict in any scale... i never thought 2mm might do the tri k.

Do you actually paint the models or just use the plastic color?
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 16, 2018, 08:12:48 PM
Hi DivisMal

I agree- the 2mm figures work particularly well for the Renaissance.
I always paint the models; the pike block in the picture in my post in painted.  The nylon plastic has some unique physical features that make painting is very easy.  You can dye the plastic any color you want, once.  After that you can ink it, wash it, or paint it like normal.  You don't have to base coat with spray paint.  They paint won't/can't come off.  It makes getting these figures ready for games very easy.  The pike blocks can be painted in about 5 minutes of work, although it can take awhile for the initial dye-wash to dry. 

I'm trying to get together enough pike units to do some small battles with pictures; I think people will be pretty impressed when they see entire battles put together.  Marston Moor is probably up first, since its pretty easy to model.  The TYW is a bit trickier research-wise, but I've got good sources on how everything should look.  The idea is for the table to look like a 3d woodblock print.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: DivisMal on April 16, 2018, 09:32:37 PM
Hi DivisMal

I agree- the 2mm figures work particularly well for the Renaissance.
I always paint the models; the pike block in the picture in my post in painted.  The nylon plastic has some unique physical features that make painting is very easy.  You can dye the plastic any color you want, once.  After that you can ink it, wash it, or paint it like normal.  You don't have to base coat with spray paint.  They paint won't/can't come off.  It makes getting these figures ready for games very easy.  The pike blocks can be painted in about 5 minutes of work, although it can take awhile for the initial dye-wash to dry. 

I'm trying to get together enough pike units to do some small battles with pictures; I think people will be pretty impressed when they see entire battles put together.  Marston Moor is probably up first, since its pretty easy to model.  The TYW is a bit trickier research-wise, but I've got good sources on how everything should look.  The idea is for the table to look like a 3d woodblock print.

Thanks for the quick reply! I’m really excited about the possibilities this opens up. 30yw is maybe easier to research for me....many original sources are still understandable if you’re a native speaker and there are a lot of pretty good overviews (these are also available in English). I’ve been dreaming for ages to get Breitenfeld or Lützen on the table!
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 16, 2018, 11:45:48 PM
Hi again DivisMal-

Lutzen should be easy to do with just a few more models. 
Actually, I have a question or two for you...

I'm looking at this woodcut:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Dankaerts-Historis-9359.tif)

Zooming in on the Swedes, what I'm seeing are basically two distinction sizes of pike and shot unit; larger, 5-flagged blocks with the shot deployed in the rear, and smaller, 3-flagged units in support positions.  Do you know the average size of these Swedish units, compared to the Holy Roman Empire/Catholic League tercios?  If I have some good averages I can get the relative proportions of these units correct down to the man.  Also, how big were the cavalry units, and how deep did they fight?  I was thinking that my regular cavalry bases would be fine; if you want to place them in depth you just stack the bases two or three deep.

I was thinking that my regular 20mm infantry might actually be better than a solid square.  With two rectangles you can make a square shot block, or you can wrap the rectangles around the tercio to show them taking shelter from cavalry.  That's how the model in the picture up above is made. 

The wood block linked above is the look I'm going for with my range. 
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: DivisMal on April 16, 2018, 11:49:29 PM
I know this picture and I’m pretty sure I can answer your question with a little bit of research in my home library. I think Margret Atwood gave pretty exact number for that specific battle.

Problem is, I’m currently on holiday and far away from the books I need. I will come back on the weekend (from lovely Madeira, untouched by tercio warfare) and hope to find the passage then.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 16, 2018, 11:58:33 PM
Margaret Atwood??  I'd be curious to read that, haha. 
Where did she write about the TYW??

It wasn't that big a battle in absolute numbers; I could probably get very close to the actual numbers of troops without breaking the bank.  I'm going to make a model of that church in Lutzen as well; that'll be easy and I've been looking for centerpieces to place inside of towns.  I have some buildings now but I don't have the big "wow" pieces that the towns really need. 

Enjoy your vacation, and when you get back let me know.  I'll do some research myself- I can probably find out pretty easily.  I met a Swedish guy last year here in California who was in some PhD history program and he broke down all the numbers for me (he was blown away by the 2mm Renaissance stuff when he saw it in person), but now I forget them all.  I remember that the period was one of constant innovation and evolution, which makes it very interesting from a modeling perspective.

Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: WFGamers on April 17, 2018, 12:31:43 AM
I would be very cautious using the most common pictures of Lutzen and many TYW battles they are not very accurate. The pike block with 4 blocks of shot for example was not used in the TYW or indeed for sometime before then. They just use it to show the units are Catholic.

The Swedish units are 'Brigades' so the 5 flagged block and two 3 flagged blocks plus associated musketeers (think of them as 4 groups) are a single brigade. The brigades varied in size from 1110 to 2036, average maybe 1500? Weapon ratios also varied but are usually reckoned to be 4 shot to 3 pikes on average.

The Imperialists were also in 'brigades' or battalions/battalia' with again various sizes but around 1000. They would look like standard ECW type units but with up to 10 ranks.

Both sides cavalry units varied in size but were usually grouped together into 'squadrons' of circa 500. Imperialists were generally 6 deep and the Swedes from 3 to 6 depending on type.

There is a very good new modern book on this battle - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/lutzen-9780199642540?cc=us&lang=en& (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/lutzen-9780199642540?cc=us&lang=en&)
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 17, 2018, 12:49:33 AM
Hi WFGamer-
I'll have to check out that book. 
Thanks for the heads up on the sources; I'll have to be cautious heading into this. The modular idea is probably the direction I'll put most of my efforts towards in this period.  that way I don't have to get everything perfect, just provide the tools for other people to get it perfect.

Goliad- I will eventually do some ancients and medieval.  I have to figure out a way to make good looking bows first.  I have some lancers on the way.  I think elephants and chariots would look really good in this style.

That said, here's a Swedish style pike unit with 6 ranks of pike and shot.  It's on a 60mm base and represents about 500 or so men.  There are 150 actual pike tips modeled on it (one quarter the size of the tercio model)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-p7BiJ4vsS28/WtVCV_HXEuI/AAAAAAAACX4/UVefpEQlsvgRVD_cqRwMKSVfvnt9t_BxgCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-16%2Bat%2B5.38.56%2BPM.png)

I can probably take out every other shot figure to show the space they would walk up.  Here they're all shoulder-to-shoulder.  This model should work for the ECW as well. 

How would a Catholic TYW unit look different from this?


I will make the central pike block available as a separate piece, so that gamers who want the flexibility can deploy the shot in different positions as required. 

You kind of have to imagine how the infantry will look once painted up; just check out the French above for an idea.  You can get a lot of detail onto them very quickly with some slash-and-dot-work.


Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: WFGamers on April 17, 2018, 09:32:41 AM
Hi WFGamer-
I'll have to check out that book. 
Thanks for the heads up on the sources; I'll have to be cautious heading into this. The modular idea is probably the direction I'll put most of my efforts towards in this period.  that way I don't have to get everything perfect, just provide the tools for other people to get it perfect.

Sounds like a good plan as many gamers will still believe that the old ideas are correct and so want to build units different to reality.


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That said, here's a Swedish style pike unit with 6 ranks of pike and shot.  It's on a 60mm base and represents about 500 or so men.  There are 150 actual pike tips modeled on it (one quarter the size of the tercio model)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-p7BiJ4vsS28/WtVCV_HXEuI/AAAAAAAACX4/UVefpEQlsvgRVD_cqRwMKSVfvnt9t_BxgCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-16%2Bat%2B5.38.56%2BPM.png)

Forgive me if I misunderstand but this picture of a later Swedish unit looks to be circa 180 men, rather than circa 500?

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I can probably take out every other shot figure to show the space they would walk up.  Here they're all shoulder-to-shoulder.  This model should work for the ECW as well. 

They had stopped doing this by the time of the ECW and probably also by the time the Swedes swapped to this formation.

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How would a Catholic TYW unit look different from this?

A big question as it varies over time and also in different armies. But in general they would look the same/similar but with more ranks until later in the war. It also varied according to circumstances. At Lutzen they are supposed to be in 10 ranks but probably formed in 7 ranks because they were outnumbered and so may have 'thinned' to occupy more space.

Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: DivisMal on April 17, 2018, 10:06:01 AM
Margaret Atwood??  I'd be curious to read that, haha. 
Where did she write about the TYW??

I might have had too much beer yesterday or simply get old. I think it was a Mrs. C.V. Wedgewood who wrote one of the great histies of the TYW...and somehow I intermixed her name wih Atwood and reconstructed the first name...
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: DivisMal on April 17, 2018, 10:08:53 AM
I would be very cautious using the most common pictures of Lutzen and many TYW battles they are not very accurate. The pike block with 4 blocks of shot for example was not used in the TYW or indeed for sometime before then. They just use it to show the units are Catholic.

The Swedish units are 'Brigades' so the 5 flagged block and two 3 flagged blocks plus associated musketeers (think of them as 4 groups) are a single brigade. The brigades varied in size from 1110 to 2036, average maybe 1500? Weapon ratios also varied but are usually reckoned to be 4 shot to 3 pikes on average.

The Imperialists were also in 'brigades' or battalions/battalia' with again various sizes but around 1000. They would look like standard ECW type units but with up to 10 ranks.

Both sides cavalry units varied in size but were usually grouped together into 'squadrons' of circa 500. Imperialists were generally 6 deep and the Swedes from 3 to 6 depending on type.

There is a very good new modern book on this battle - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/lutzen-9780199642540?cc=us&lang=en& (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/lutzen-9780199642540?cc=us&lang=en&)

There have also been excavations at the site. Most of it is published in German (and at my home), but a good article on the analysis of a mass-grave from Lützen can be found here:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0178252

And a summary of the published articles:
https://www.researchgate.net/project/The-mass-grave-of-Luetzen
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 17, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
Hi WFGamers-

The nice thing about modular models is that as historical understanding changes people won't need to rebase my figures; just place them in different positions.

The model of the Swedish battalion has 120 shot and 150 pike, for 270 figures total.  These are 2mm models, so obviously "figure" has its own definition.  But, in the new style models, as you can see in the French sample above, every shot model is individually "there," and every pike tip is individually "there" on the model (as in the pike block above).  Because of the way the render is turned you cna only see half of the pike tips; they are staggered, so some are hidden.  This new model is just a slightly larger version of the painted tercios I posted in this thread; the tercio model has 600 pike tips; the Swedish/ECW model is 1/4 of that model, slightly increased in scale.  270 figures to 500 men is a little better than 2:1, which is the best you can do with current technology.  When I say "represent" I meant literally, "it stands for."

Did ECW shot not fight with gaps between the infantry?  I thought  just read that they would deploy with gaps, and close them when they wanted more firepower, and that this was done in the ECW era?  If they were shoulder to shoulder there are 3 ranked shot models that can be used already...
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: robh on April 17, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
Did ECW shot not fight with gaps between the infantry?  I thought  just read that they would deploy with gaps, and close them when they wanted more firepower, and that this was done in the ECW era?  If they were shoulder to shoulder there are 3 ranked shot models that can be used already...

They generally fought in "order" which is close (about 3 ft between files same as between ranks) but not shoulder to shoulder. There was supposed to be enough room for the 2 ranks behind the front to step forward and present muskets one to each side of the guy in the front rank so all 3 could "salvee" together. (Fine for everyone except the poor sod in the front each time who gets deafened in both ears as well as smacked in the shoulder by his own recoil)
Open order as used for counter march rotation or interpenetration by Pike was about 6 ft between files.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 17, 2018, 06:13:47 PM
Hmm... I might provide some looser formations then just to be careful- the more variation the better.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: boywundyrx on April 17, 2018, 06:57:37 PM
I'm looking forward (pun unintended) to these, I think they'll provide for some impressive-looking tabletop battles.

Chris
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 17, 2018, 07:24:33 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AsdlJhv8MAQ/WtZIOFIGdpI/AAAAAAAACYI/Llj03hJzKBQEcPp1QasyRn34v5JKBXe9wCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-17%2Bat%2B12.15.43%2BPM.png)

Here's the reworked ECW/TYW formation. 
I've got some cavalry squares in various depths as well. When used together with the stand-alone pike you'll be able to make formations like these:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c0QWmqHGuDU/WtZO8QSSEwI/AAAAAAAACYY/b6CODsEfw64srAoUYKbNJTbwHwh8BvUdQCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-17%2Bat%2B12.44.47%2BPM.png)

Samples of all of the ECW/TYW stuff is being printed up as I type this (including the sprue-version of the model in this post).  Concerning this last model, you'd get (4) of them for $16, 60mm x 20mm, and over 800 figures/pike total.  Which means that for the cost of a few boxes of 28mm plastic you could do a battle like Lutzen at a little more than 2:1 figure-to-troop ratio.  I'll eventually get an exact ration nailed down.  I'm maintaining my commitment to a known ground scale, even though technology has forced me to retreat from my dream of 1/1 scale model stuff (actually I could do that but I'd have to go to 3mm figures and for a variety of reasons I don't want to do so).  Anyway, I like to know exactly what my figures represent, and I think my customers will want to know too.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: WFGamers on April 18, 2018, 10:05:34 AM
Forwardmarchstudio,

I think others have beaten me to answering your questions to me, but if not ask again.

I just wanted to say I am very interested in doing this era in 2mm. Unfortunately this interest means I already have 2mm ECW/TYW armies in metal from another company. But I love what you are doing and I have other projects in mind that I hope to use your figures for.

Finally I am not sure if you use facebook but you might want to take a look at this group if you do - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1639662269377760/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1639662269377760/)
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 18, 2018, 07:14:23 PM
WFGamers- glad to hear it!

I've done a 3mm blog for years, and only recently got into 2mm because I saw the opportunity to do something that no one had done before to my knowledge:  a complete 3d printed range that (1) prints consistently, (2) looks good aesthetically, (3) is innovative in a broader way, and (4) was economically competitive with traditional model soldier lines.

I'm not on Facebook but maybe I can contact those guys somehow and let them know about my product. Thanks for the tip on that point.

Not sure if you've seen my blog, but here's the link:

https://forwardmarchminiatures.blogspot.com

Most of the posts are about the first iteration of my 2mm figures, which were smaller and cheaper than the current line.  They were also at exact 2mm ground scale; however, the technology isn't quite at the point to print sub-1mm wide figures.  What I really need to do though is get out to some conventions; people are often blown away when they see my figures in person, especially the pike blocks. 

Anyway, I'm almost done with a basic Marston Moore set that would cost about $100 per side (about 24-30 pike bases, a bunch of cavalry, some artillery, a sprue of commanders, and maybe some supply wagons).

40mm x 20mm Pike Blocks

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vq2C3meyNT8/WteO1NEJ-TI/AAAAAAAACYs/yp_xei101Qs9MEH8PZPnufPemW4bELCrACK4BGAYYCw/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-18%2Bat%2B11.28.59%2BAM.png)

40mm x 20mm Cavalry in 4 ranks

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8vcQuA8WOZ4/WteYcwj60mI/AAAAAAAACZA/xsdYLlz2TQ8ISUW_IJ4fw3omkCzunmbsQCEwYBhgL/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-18%2Bat%2B12.09.28%2BPM.png)

20mm Commander bases

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rZdV4qJ9Dkg/WteYa1HlkLI/AAAAAAAACY4/ODj9cemE3H057OTAY_zWncfCQNU2Z-kxgCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-18%2Bat%2B12.10.06%2BPM.png)

40mm x 20mm Artillery

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JdkLILxgv9g/WteYa0pRTVI/AAAAAAAACY8/CcT7U3VRagkZnmlh7wvaztWc1fJRehM4ACEwYBhgL/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-18%2Bat%2B12.10.33%2BPM.png)

A few tweaks to make but these are getting close.  I may make the artillery pieces a bit longer for the Renaissance; these are for the later horse and musket period and are a bit shorter.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: bigredbat on April 18, 2018, 07:47:54 PM
Look at 3 ranks for the cavalry- they fought either in 3 or 6, and usually in troops with intervals inbetween
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 18, 2018, 08:09:51 PM
Like these guys?

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0B4RwQj7jnk/Wtej-GH7xrI/AAAAAAAACZY/FNwERn4-5mkHSGsnbzb5pnZMs_uYhhFFgCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2018-04-18%2Bat%2B12.59.52%2BPM.png)

These can also be used to represent the Saxon cavalry at Borodino; apparently they were about the last cavalry unit to fight in three ranks.

I don't have these on sprues yet but they will be available on 20mm, 30mm, 40mm and 60mm frontages.  Some of these are already available, other will be coming shortly, over the coming week. 

My old cavalry models had gaps for companies; those were for Napoleonic units  though, where it was easier to figure out how big the companies were.  I'm fairly well versed on Napoleonic warfare; less so on the Renaissance, so a lot of my research is based on period woodcuts.  Which has the advantage that when people look at the battles they'll immediately recognize whats happening on the table-top.  On the other hand, as someone on here mentioned, those old woodcuts weren't always accurate.  This is one reason for my modular approach. 

Now that said, how big were these gaps between troops?  I would imagine that you mean gaps between lines?  To create something like that it might be better to use (3) of my 2-rank cavalry set up in a column.  You'd be looking at a bigger ground scale though.  The figures above are abstracted; you'd need to use the bigger bases to get closer to true ground scale.

And that being said, now that I look at the 40mm bases again, maybe a gap right down the middle would look good?  Alternatively, maybe I could place a larger gap there, and insert a command unit right in the middle between two bodies of cav?  That would give each piece a focal point.  Hmmm.... I might do exactly that.  I'll keep the models above as building blocks for people who want larger units, but also create a base with an HQ as a kind of diorama base that would compliment the pike-and-shotte bases I posted above.   

I just got news that my lancer model printed up successfully; I should get it in the mail within a week.  It should be perfect for men-at-arms, reiters, and Napoleonic era lancers equally.  I'm very excited to see how it looks in person.  My old lancer experiment was ok, but I think this one will be superior.  We'll see.
Title: Re: New 2mm Renaissance Range
Post by: Forwardmarchstudio on April 19, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
DivisMal- I wanted to mention that those links were very interesting.  They reminded me of the movie The Last Valley, haha.

http://balagan.info/renaissance-battlefield-tactics

I found a website with some schematics of Spanish tercio formations- this is really interesting.  It argues in favor of making more modular pieces.  The deep formation designed to advance along the flank is interesting; it reminds me of a French attack column moving on the flank, except on a larger scale....