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Title: Civilians?
Post by: LeadAsbestos on April 16, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
I'm looking for a wide selection of SF civilians, angry protestors, workmen, etc for a 'realistic' project, a la The Expanse and Broken Contract. 28mm scale. Only humans, and preferably not all shoot and runny.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: mrgrigson on April 17, 2018, 12:05:50 AM
I look forward to the day when Antenociti can offer his GOT civilians again. In the meantime...

Statuesque? http://www.statuesqueminiatures.co.uk/c/4560894/1/statuesque-starport.html (http://www.statuesqueminiatures.co.uk/c/4560894/1/statuesque-starport.html)
4A? http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm (http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm) (look for "captain and 2 pilots" and "maintenance crew")
CP Models? https://cpmodels.co.uk/product-category/28mm-ranges/sci-fi/non-coms/ (https://cpmodels.co.uk/product-category/28mm-ranges/sci-fi/non-coms/)
Casting Room for a couple? https://www.castingroomminiatures.com/collections/street-fighters (https://www.castingroomminiatures.com/collections/street-fighters)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Hat Guy on April 17, 2018, 12:52:18 AM
There are a few Heroclix offerings that work as well, I've used them with just a wash and rebase.

Mercy Graves 014
Witchblade 066
Mojo 089
Maria Hill 011
Bruce Wayne 001
Machine Man 025
Tabitha Smith 209

And plenty more.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: n815e on April 17, 2018, 02:34:48 AM
Offensive Miniatures has protesters.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: tnjrp on April 17, 2018, 06:12:59 AM
Corvus Belli's Infinity range has a few and what they have are pretty spiffy, but generally hard to come by on their own and moreover their scaling is severely pushing the size envelope, even with mileages varying in regards to what "28mm scale" is. In fact I'm almost certain that they are overlarge next to anything from mrgrigson's post.

Heresy has some civilianish types that are pretty well in the 28mm scale tho: http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2&zenid=i282tcs8o2ve7tgimhd4lemke1

Also, Anvil Industry's Afterlife has a couple: http://anvilindustry.co.uk/AFTERLIFE/all-characters
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Elk101 on April 17, 2018, 07:32:23 AM
Regarding the Heresy Miniatures mentioned above, you can't go wrong with the Inspectors set, they're great models. There's also a few ship's crew figures that are good as well as some general civilians that work well. Most of my Aliens setting civilians are Heresy.

Denizen also have some lovely figures, they might just be a touch small, being much closer to 25mm. They also sell what are probably my favourite not Colonial Marines too.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on April 17, 2018, 08:39:00 AM
Offensive Miniatures has protesters.
Lots of rioters and protestors.
http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/catalogue.asp?RID=44&CID=b37c6426-f193-439a-bcc4-00de4cbf70d2 (http://www.offensiveminiatures.com/catalogue.asp?RID=44&CID=b37c6426-f193-439a-bcc4-00de4cbf70d2)
I do not have any of them photographed (nor painted) but there are two of the riot police from the same range here for scale:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UChZR8FvS8U/TkNstpDuF4I/AAAAAAAAAEc/F_TAG4bkWgA/s1600/usualsuspects1.png)
From left to right: Offensive Miniatures Riot Police; CP Miniatures SF trooper; Crooked Dice Armed Minion with automaton head); Copplestone Guard in Beret; Offensive Miniatures Riot Police Sergeant and Hasslefree Neil (with Offensive Minitures baton arm).
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: LeadAsbestos on April 17, 2018, 09:21:46 AM
Thanks! Some fine ideas
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Daeothar on April 17, 2018, 09:25:51 AM
In my experience, civilians are usually put to use in three roles on the tabletop; as extra's/set dressing, protestors/opponents or objectives/hostages.


The clix ones can be used as extra's without issue; the posing is generally casual, so they can be perfect bystanders/pedestrians. There are also good offerings in this regard to be found in the architectural and model train isles. Those niches have 1/48 or 1/50 human models in bulk. Posing is always very undynamic and especially the architectural ones come in unpainted white plastic. Their dimensions are obviously realistic and sort of low res, so they might be out of place alongside the more heroic types. But they might work very well alongside Infinity and/or HINT miniatures with the right paintjob.

Also, the upcoming Infinity roleplaying game has a pack of some very nice civilians, and when the game proves succesful, I reckon more will follow.


Protestors/rioters/looters should be more dynamic, and there are quite a few offerings, throwing bricks or molotov cocktails. I'd like to see some holding up signs actually, and maybe a few yelling in a bullhorn or yelling and pointing, as instigators/ringleaders.

I'm thinking a few of these in the front row, with the aforementioned architectural minis as a mob, grouped on large bases, in the background would make for a very cool protesting mob to oppose your thin blue(?) line of Riot Police/Corporate Security/Judges/Arbites.


And finally, the objectives. Obviously, you could use some of the above minis in this role, but there are some nice hostage miniatures out there that would be perfect; bound and gagged office worker types (I have a set of these in resin; can't remember the manufacturer). Fleeing and running miniatures would be another good idea. Megacon Games' Mercs:Recon game has plenty of escaping office workers and lab personnel (if you can stand their bendy, soft detail products).
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Inso on April 17, 2018, 09:38:07 AM
If they are only for set dressing... why not use paper/cardboard ones?

Easy to make by picking photographs from Google, shrinking them to fit, printing them out and mounting them on card so that they stand up.

That way, they cost pence, don't take much effort and fulfil a purpose... job jobbed :)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Mason on April 17, 2018, 11:02:50 AM
I am going to be taking the easy route with civvies and use the train set stuff, cheap from China for mine when I get time to paint them.

Here is a shot that Dr Zombie posted of his...

Mine ended up like this after a wash of armypainter strong tone and a quick and dirty drybrush.
(https://i.imgur.com/PSvPbiT.jpg)

Cant go wrong, I reckon, using these as the bulk of your civvies as they are cheap as anything and you can simply add a few more expensive options for variety.

Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Daeothar on April 17, 2018, 11:59:41 AM
Awesome; that's a great result and one I'm filing for future reference... 8)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Rabbitz on April 17, 2018, 12:25:20 PM
If you manage t find a link to the seller can you please post it?
I got some 1:50 scale pre-painted railway figures and they were very poor quality and in very old fashioned clothing.   The ones on that picture look more in keeping with a sci-fi feel.

Cheers
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: FionaWhite on April 17, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Also, the upcoming Infinity roleplaying game has a pack of some very nice civilians, and when the game proves succesful, I reckon more will follow.

Weren't those exclusive to the Kickstarter? I seem to recall lamenting that fact back when it was running.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Daeothar on April 17, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
Weren't those exclusive to the Kickstarter? I seem to recall lamenting that fact back when it was running.

Could very well be. I have them through the KS, but assumed they would become available for retail later on...
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Mason on April 17, 2018, 01:47:23 PM
If you manage t find a link to the seller can you please post it?
I got some 1:50 scale pre-painted railway figures and they were very poor quality and in very old fashioned clothing.   The ones on that picture look more in keeping with a sci-fi feel.

Cheers

These are the ones that I bought, I am pretty sure they are the same as the Docs...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P50W-100pcs-Model-Trains-1-48-Painted-Figures-O-SCALE/310297105031?hash=item483f261287:g:WpgAAMXQMTlRbOj-

Just add a few blobs of greenstuff here and there for shoulder/knee pads and they should be just fine.
The painting is crap but nothing that a quick once over and a wash would not fix.
 ;)

Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Maxx Von Morton on April 18, 2018, 01:55:33 PM
How about Colony 87? Soon there should be a new kickstarter (really looking forward!  :-*)

Or, easier to get, the Astropolis range of LAM....


Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: tnjrp on April 19, 2018, 06:55:53 AM
These are the ones that I bought, I am pretty sure they are the same as the Docs...
They don't look too shabby when painted. Was there a pic with those alongside some ca. 28mm gaming minis in anywhere in the thread? I was too lazy to skim it all the way through :?
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Mason on April 19, 2018, 09:16:47 AM
They don't look too shabby when painted. Was there a pic with those alongside some ca. 28mm gaming minis in anywhere in the thread? I was too lazy to skim it all the way through :?

There is at least one with some Judge Dredd miniatures scattered amongst them.
I think it was posted before that picture.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: gamer Mac on April 19, 2018, 09:32:24 AM
My brother uses some on his 2000 AD board
 http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=72345.msg1324001#msg1324001  (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=72345.msg1324001#msg1324001)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: tnjrp on April 19, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
Thx!

Looks like they are fairly decent with Dredd figs but IIRC those tend to be on the big side of 28mm. So conceivably they could work with Infinity minis as well. In regards to the related Role Playing Game minis, the ones released in the context of the Modiphius KickStarter were indeed exclusive to the project IIRC. However, Corvus Belli released slightly different versions of [all|most] of those models well in advance of pledgers getting their hands on the project related ones. Here's one example:
https://store.corvusbelli.com/products/yu-jing/280383-0576-dragon-lady-imperial-service-judge

The RPG KS figure doesn't have a parasol or a pig.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Daeothar on April 19, 2018, 11:25:24 AM
Indeed she doesn't, but I actually like her better with. And that cute designer piglet looks fun too (my daughter would absolutely love it lol ).

So maybe I'm going to have to get this version too... ::)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: zemjw on April 19, 2018, 11:46:32 AM
I'm assuming at this point that I'll get my Infinity KS figures about a week before the heat death of the universe, so not sure I'll have time to paint them >:(

Copplestone do some civilians. They also do loads of corporate spies who can be converted pretty much by just removing their pistols. Likewise, the Foundry Street Wars range has plenty of conversion opportunities.

Not helpful, but I have a bunch of modern civilians I picked up at some point, but can't remember who made them. There's a woman pushing a buggy, a man in a wheelchair, men and women in business suits etc. They're not the greatest of sculpts, but painted up okay.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Daeothar on April 19, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
I'm assuming at this point that I'll get my Infinity KS figures about a week before the heat death of the universe, so not sure I'll have time to paint them >:(

Better contact them; I received mine over a year ago already. And even then I had to ask them why mine hadn't arrived yet. Turns out I apparently had selected to receive my entire pledge in one go, meaning they were holding on to them till all the books and other stuff was complete.

I then paid for the extra postage and I received mine about a week later.

So better check with them to find out what delivery options you chose. To be honest, I found that part of the KS a bit unclear (which is why I made that mistake), but the rest is excellent, even though severely delayed of course.

They are really open in their communication and are sharing work in progress PDF's of the upcoming books to proofread and test on a regular basis. So much in fact, that there were times I wished that they would just go on with it and ship me the books when they're done. .. ::)

But I've not been worried along the way even once. Which has been very different with several other Kickstarters... *cough* Megacon Games *cough* ;)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: zemjw on April 19, 2018, 01:09:16 PM
I contacted them when they were sending the books out and I didn't get mine (end of last year if memory serves). It turns out one of the books I'd ordered is in wave 2 shipping, so, like you, they were holding everything to ship in one lot.

If I was willing to pay p&p for my wave 1 stuff and again for my wave 2 stuff I could have got it. I wasn't in a huge hurry, so opted to wait.

However, given that there's no wave 2 printing date, let alone shipping date, and the updates have been pretty quiet lately, I may ping them again. Paying extra shipping for the minis wouldn't be too bad, it was the thought of paying extra shipping for two sets of books that I objected to.

I'd settle for them just shipping the miniatures and waiting for the books. I only really wanted the minis from the KS but got caught up in the "fever" ::)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: forrester on April 21, 2018, 08:26:52 AM
Perhaps more crew than civilians- depends how you paint them-but the Ainsty Castings Valley Forge figures are great. Open handed too.
I used Crooked Dice Daredevils for female equivalents.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Dezmond on April 21, 2018, 06:56:31 PM
Hydra Miniatures sells these peeps if you want Space Clothes (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClothes)

(http://shop.hydraminiatures.com/images/The%20Rocketsons-flat.jpg)

(http://shop.hydraminiatures.com/images/Cosmic%20Kids-flat.jpg)

(http://shop.hydraminiatures.com/images/Galaxy%20City%20Guys-flat.jpg)

(http://shop.hydraminiatures.com/images/Galaxy%20City%20Gals-flat.jpg)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: matakishi on April 21, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
Not helpful, but I have a bunch of modern civilians I picked up at some point, but can't remember who made them. There's a woman pushing a buggy, a man in a wheelchair, men and women in business suits etc. They're not the greatest of sculpts, but painted up okay.

These sound like the Superfigs civilians.

(https://www.matakishi.net/uploads/4/0/8/7/40876893/lpl-civilians-600_orig.jpg)

(https://www.matakishi.net/uploads/4/0/8/7/40876893/press-1-600_1_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on April 21, 2018, 07:57:35 PM
Heresy are great.

(http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/images/large/inspectorsdeal.jpg)

(http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/images/large/crewdeal.jpg)

http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2 (http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: zemjw on April 21, 2018, 08:16:59 PM
These sound like the Superfigs civilians.


yup - that's them :D Thanks for identifying them, and glad they're still about. I must have painted them about a decade ago and thought they'd be long gone by now.

I don't remember buying them from the States, although it was a while ago...
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Rabbitz on April 24, 2018, 01:05:08 AM
Westwind in the UK used to sell superfigs so maybe you got them from there?

Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: zemjw on April 24, 2018, 09:46:21 AM
I have bought a lot of figures from Westwind, so that's almost certainly where I got them from. Thanks  :D :D

Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Munindk on April 24, 2018, 10:19:15 AM
These are the ones that I bought, I am pretty sure they are the same as the Docs...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P50W-100pcs-Model-Trains-1-48-Painted-Figures-O-SCALE/310297105031?hash=item483f261287:g:WpgAAMXQMTlRbOj-

Just add a few blobs of greenstuff here and there for shoulder/knee pads and they should be just fine.
The painting is crap but nothing that a quick once over and a wash would not fix.
 ;)

I just ordered a bag of 50 models, which should be plenty for my needs and more importantly it means I'm just under the customs limit :)

I like the idea of a little greenstuff work, they could possible be turned into superheroes or thugs with a little creativity. I'm thinking that masks and balaclavas can hide the semi blank faces.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Andym on April 24, 2018, 11:12:56 AM
They do work well. If you go for numbers, you really don’t have to do much to them IMHO....

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/20180423_073009_zps6dktulcu.jpg~original) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20180423_073009_zps6dktulcu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Mason on April 24, 2018, 12:16:36 PM
That is a great shot, Andy.
It really does emphasise what can be easily achieved with a little effort.
 :-* :-*

You should be getting paid by the Department of Chinese Export for your sterling advertisement.
 ;)

Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Mako on April 25, 2018, 07:57:11 PM
Those Dr. Zombie, Railroad figures do look nice.

I like the more modern look to them.

Are they 1/48th scale?

Would love to see something similar, in 25mm (yes, old school minis), and 28mm, for Sci-Fi/Ultramodern/Modern periods.

Are there plastic miniatures available in these scales, for civilians, at low cost?
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on April 26, 2018, 08:44:25 AM
The only 28mm civilians I know of in plastic are the ex Wargames Factory now Warlord Survivors.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Dr. Zombie on April 26, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
I just came here to pitch my train layout people. But others have gotten in before me.

I guess you can get trainpeople in all the commonly used train scales.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: Mason on April 26, 2018, 11:23:55 AM
I just came here to pitch my train layout people. But others have gotten in before me.

I guess you can get trainpeople in all the commonly used train scales.

I have been pimping your train people already:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=108771.msg1359410#msg1359410

Hope you don't mind.....but they are rather good.
 :D

Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: eilif on May 02, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
Thanks for this thread and links folks!  My next project for my Mech Attack city is to add civilians.  I've got a good amount of generic looking heroclix but I want to fill a city that's roughly 8x8, so I'm going to need more.
I just ordered a bag of 50 models, which should be plenty for my needs and more importantly it means I'm just under the customs limit :)

I like the idea of a little greenstuff work, they could possible be turned into superheroes or thugs with a little creativity. I'm thinking that masks and balaclavas can hide the semi blank faces.
For those in the states, I found the same lots (for notably less money) on ebay by just searching for the exact same item title. 

As for superheroes and thugs, I've found that old heroclix are so cheap that I'm not even sure it's worth the effort to convert the railroad cheapies.   
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: salcor on May 04, 2018, 11:29:07 AM
If you are looking for rioters check out the nanomei faction from Anvil 8 Games.  http://www.anvil-eight.com/nanomei

Salcor
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: tnjrp on May 31, 2018, 06:50:35 AM
Anvil Eight also have a few other more civilian sorts, for example the rather spiffy Agent: http://www.anvil-eight.com/product-page/the-agent

IIRC they are scaled at the higher end of the spectrum as well, about 32mm.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: area23 on May 31, 2018, 08:03:06 AM
In Europe you can get the superfigs civilians from Old Glory UK on request. He imports from the US every few months. Good service.
Title: Re: Civilians?
Post by: tnjrp on May 31, 2018, 10:06:55 AM
IIRC they are scaled at the higher end of the spectrum as well, about 32mm
It belatedly occurred to me that I actually have taken a size comparison pic of an Aetherium miniature and a 2nd Ed Space Marine:
http://heros.netai.net/pix/GWSM-AHI.jpg

Looking at that it seem the humans in the line'd be rather close to 32mm to the eye.