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Title: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 20, 2018, 10:47:46 PM
Trying to post photos of a 55 Days at Peking Game I set up last year. Not sure if this going to work.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Codsticker on April 21, 2018, 03:58:43 AM
Not sure if this going to work.
Close... but not quite. lol Looks very nice though. :D
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: FifteensAway on April 21, 2018, 12:35:03 PM
Photos posted okay - but two of them needed to be rotated before posting.

I see five legations, maybe, if the one on the top right of the first photo is the French one.  Looks like the Germans got left out.  I certainly understand the challenges as I work to prepare a much larger game in 15 mm using the wonderful Blue Moon buildings (mostly).  See my own thread on the topic under Colonial topic.

Any chance of getting a better photo of the Tartar Wall?  The top looks good but I'd love to see more.  That is a piece I will be scratch building and include the water gate and, maybe, one or two other gates though one in a 'destroyed' state since it was burned right before the siege began, the Chien Men Gate. (I think)

And, yes, looks good.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Smokeyrone on April 21, 2018, 01:08:22 PM
I love it!
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Belisarius on April 21, 2018, 01:51:35 PM
Rotating pics , the bane of my life . Lovely looking table , buildings and figures btw .
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Marine0846 on April 21, 2018, 02:59:53 PM
Excellent looking game.
I have always had a special interest in this period.
after watching "55 Days at Peking."
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Arundel on April 21, 2018, 08:19:07 PM
This is one of those projects that have always tempted me. What keeps me away is the huge number of buildings needed to do it right, and as someone who would struggle to make even an outhouse I've shied away.

Your set-up looks just great. Are most of the buildings scratch built? Love to know which rules and figures you use also! Are those Old Glory Boxers? Anyway, superb work, and many thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: marianas_gamer on April 22, 2018, 01:37:58 AM
Nice work :-* :-*!
LB
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 22, 2018, 02:39:50 AM
I’m sorry about the two photos that are wonkered. This was my first attempt at posting photos. I’m not sure how to correct the issue since I couldn’t preview it.
I’ll look to see if I have other pics of the Tatar Wall. Unfortunately, my game room has been temporarily taken over for other family uses and have no where else to set it up for photos.
Most of the buildings are Old Glory. Four of the five Legation compounds are unique. I have 2 of the OG British Legation, one of which I reconfigure as the Fu. Most of the other buildings are also OG but there are two pieces of the Hudson and Allen Alamo that I use as ruins. Some of the other buildings are scratchbuilt but not by me.
The Boxers are predominately OG but there are also figures from Pulp Figures, Redoubt and Foundry. They mix nicely together.
I put this collection together about 20 years ago.
Title: 25mm Boxer Rebellion, Couple More Pics
Post by: ragbones on April 22, 2018, 02:51:58 AM
FifteensAway, there’s another pic from when I was setting up the game that shows a little more of the Tater Wall. There’s also a pic of a couple of the scratchbuilt buildings depicting part of the Mongol Market.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Byblos on April 22, 2018, 09:21:50 AM
Very impressive work ! Bravo  :-*
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Arundel on April 22, 2018, 02:56:41 PM
Love it!
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: gringo on April 22, 2018, 08:52:45 PM
splendid setup! :D

cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: FifteensAway on April 22, 2018, 09:09:58 PM
Ragbones, thanks for the extra photos, especially of the wall.  The zig-zag with a landing approach is a good idea and I think I'll adopt something similar.  I'll need 12' of wall for the game we're putting together and it will be 6" tall so that style will work well, maybe put four such ramps, two inboard of the German/American lines and two outboard for the Boxers to use.

Now I'm off to order more buildings from OG25s Blue Moon 15 mm Boxer range.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: miltiades on April 23, 2018, 07:26:27 AM
well done! Very nice. British Legation Gate looks fantastic
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: DintheDin on April 23, 2018, 07:29:20 PM
I like your Tartar Wall and the pic with the barricaded French is very atmospheric.
Nice table setup. What rules did you use?
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 09:57:19 PM
DintheDin, in this particular game we used an adjusted ‘The Men Who Would Be King.’ In the past, I used a home variant of Tim Wright’s convention rules, ‘Sand and Blood.’

FifteensAway, when we constructed the ramps for the Tatar Wall we decided a landing would be an ideal place for desperate hand-to-hand combat. Not to mention that was how it was in the movie.  :) We went back and forth on the inclusion of the Chen Mien Gate or a facsimile thereof, but based on other games of Peking we’d played over the decades decided against including it. A 25mm Gate would have been fun to build and probably an impressive visual but it would have added nothing to game play and quite possibly could have impeded some of the great battles we’ve had on the Tatar Wall. I’m following your project as you post and it looks like it will be amazing. The new OG 15mm Legations are beautiful. I hope you have as much fun as we have.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 23, 2018, 09:58:00 PM
Great stuff  :)
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 10:14:23 PM
Pics showing French Marines defending a Legation and street barricades defended by Austrian sailors and U.S. Marines with a Colt machine gun.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 10:30:58 PM
I apologize for the pics being skewed. I thought I had it all figured out but obviously I don’t. Sorry.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 23, 2018, 10:39:11 PM
Best to rotate them before uploading them to your host.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 11:16:42 PM
I used the attachment method, picking photos from my iPad’s photo library. Photos that were originally portrait. I thought the ones that were getting turned sideways were the ones that were originally landscape. It’s heck to be electronically lliterate.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
(https://flic.kr/p/TRnCZw)
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Smokeyrone on April 23, 2018, 11:44:48 PM
Photos posted okay - but two of them needed to be rotated before posting.

I see five legations, maybe, if the one on the top right of the first photo is the French one.  Looks like the Germans got left out.  I certainly understand the challenges as I work to prepare a much larger game in 15 mm using the wonderful Blue Moon buildings (mostly).  See my own thread on the topic under Colonial topic.

Any chance of getting a better photo of the Tartar Wall?  The top looks good but I'd love to see more.  That is a piece I will be scratch building and include the water gate and, maybe, one or two other gates though one in a 'destroyed' state since it was burned right before the siege began, the Chien Men Gate. (I think)

And, yes, looks good.

Pssst!  I got buildings! (opens mink coat, revealing 15m buildings, gold chains and watches)

THATS why they call me "Lenny the Looter"

Made enough buildings to fill a 5x10 table.  Never finished the project. 
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 11:50:10 PM
Smokey, you’re a scratch building wizard! They’re terrific! What about those Aliens-style buildings you promised pictures of?  :D
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 11:55:43 PM
Trying one more time. This photo appears “right side up” before I hit post. I’ll see what happens when it actually posts.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 23, 2018, 11:57:02 PM
I give up. >:(
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Plynkes on April 24, 2018, 12:03:51 AM
Perhaps you can trick it into complying by trying to post them sideways.


Great pics, anyway, even if they do give us all cricked necks.  :)


Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 24, 2018, 08:24:49 AM
I used the attachment method, picking photos from my iPad’s photo library. Photos that were originally portrait. I thought the ones that were getting turned sideways were the ones that were originally landscape. It’s heck to be electronically lliterate.

It's a bit of a pain but you will need to edit/rotate them in you pad library first then they should upload here fine.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Belisarius on April 24, 2018, 03:16:03 PM
Guys , I,ve had the same problem on this forum for a long time with pics rotating and skewed . I also upload from the I pad . Rotating them on your I pad will not work . I post to my club and other forums and the problem only occurs on this one , I,m guessing it has something to do with the server . 🤪 It can be very frustrating but it doesn’t detract from my enjoyment of the pics , 😁 , so I hope you,ll keep posting and if anybody can find a solution I,ll be the first to buy them a ( virtual) pint .
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on April 26, 2018, 01:26:02 AM
Here are some links to more photos of the Peking game:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21667793@N06/shares/Y4h2zz

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21667793@N06/shares/Z9m406

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21667793@N06/shares/zh24LB

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21667793@N06/shares/Cu5B55

I hope you like them.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: worrywort on May 01, 2018, 07:41:15 AM
I like them.

Great job !
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: FifteensAway on May 01, 2018, 02:36:12 PM
Yes, like the additional photos.

A couple questions for you, ragbones:  Did you do any research on roof colors or just go with what looked good?  Also, did you include much in the way of Chinese artillery and was there any research behind doing so?  As best you can remember, anyway - twenty years ago is a bit far back in the mists of my memory, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on May 02, 2018, 02:41:40 AM
Yes, I conducted quite a bit of research using primary and secondary sources as well as picking the brains of a couple colleagues stationed at the Beijing Embassy. The colors I chose were a combination of what little documentary evidence on colors existed as well as personal preference.
The use of artillery by the Chinese against the Legations is an interesting subject. From what I recall, the besiegers initially deployed several older-style cannon (ie. muzzle loaders) against the Legations but modern Krupp’s or Krupp-style breech loaders were used later when the Muslim Gansu (Kansu) Army was introduced. Some of this reflected the back-and-forth dynamic at the Imperial Court as different factions fought for control and influence. Some Chinese artillery was used in a direct fire role while other was deployed in an indirect, general bombardment role. It was interesting to see that underground ‘bomb shelters’ were constructed by the defenders. The Chinese also used incendiary rockets against the Legations.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: FifteensAway on May 02, 2018, 04:41:32 AM
ragbones, Would you be so kind as to identify the legations by roof color (more or less).  One of your images showing your overall table with the Tartar wall closest to the camera suggests the following: on the left US, Russian, British, pretty straight forward; however, on the right, is it Germany, Japan, France or some other order.  You made a comment about the Su/Fu Palace so I'm wondering if that is the dark blue roof (since it appears identical to what I believe is the British legation.  A curious mind wants to know.  And thanks for you last reply, appreciated.
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: ragbones on May 03, 2018, 02:31:03 AM
FifteensAway, you’re correct about the configuration of the Legations on the left hand side of the photograph. The other Legation in question was German. The buildings behind the German Legation were meant to represent generally some of the commercial buildings in the area.
While putting together my game, several dear friends gave to me a painted OG British Legation. Each of them painted a different building or the perimeter walls. It was exceedingly generous and kind and I used every time I set up Peking. I consider it one of my most prized possessions because it came from them. I had originally planned on making a Fu (Su) Palace but when they gave me the Legation I decided to simply set it up in a slightly different configuration to represent the Fu. By that time I had painted all the other buildings you see in the photos (plus others not shown; I had decided to downsize the game), helped scratch build the Tatar Wall and other ancillary Chinese buildings, and paint over a thousand 25mm figures. I just wanted to roll dice and play.  :)
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: Smokeyrone on May 04, 2018, 12:29:36 AM
So nice
Title: Re: Boxer Rebellion
Post by: dhtandco on May 15, 2018, 11:56:53 PM
Great set up,I’ve loved following this project