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Title: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 09, 2018, 05:24:30 PM
I have made more progress on the Zulus, the Perry plastics have re-energized my desire to paint.

First the married:
(https://preview.ibb.co/kMhk8n/0509180948_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cFa58n)
Then the unmarried:
(https://preview.ibb.co/mjZjZS/0509180953.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6zwg7)
I kitbashed some Perry and Warlord Games plastics (With the obligatory British photo bomb):
(https://preview.ibb.co/myYduS/0509180950.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jRx4ZS)
I have not decided what to do with the movement trays yet, but they will help immensely in moving the Impi.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Mike1879 on May 09, 2018, 08:07:19 PM
Excellent!! The kitbashing works well with both manufacturers!! Love the Perry Zulus 👍
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Bloodaxe on May 09, 2018, 11:28:08 PM
Wow, they look AWESOME!  Do the Perry/Warlord Zulu look good side by side?

How about the Brits?

Thanks for posting, hope to see more!

Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 10, 2018, 03:09:59 AM
Thanks guys! The Warlord and Perry mix perfectly in my opinion.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Bloodaxe on May 10, 2018, 03:29:33 AM
Thanks guys! The Warlord and Perry mix perfectly in my opinion.

Are the British up next?
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 10, 2018, 04:08:54 AM
I do have a box of each, but have not assembled a Perry Brit yet. I will post a comparison pic once I assemble one.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Plynkes on May 10, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
Very nice indeed. I really wish I could get over my (somewhat) irrational loathing of plastics, so I could churn out some stuff like you have. I have bought quite a few boxes of Perry and other manufacturers, but whenever I sit down to make some I remember how much I cannot stand the fiddly little bastards and put them aside for some so far fictional "later."

Those Perry Zulus are really nice, though (apart from the horrible shields, but hey, Empress sell nice ones separately). They may well be the models that finally make me face my fear of plastic.

Anyway, sorry for the digression, I really like these. I look forward to seeing more of this project.



Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Driscoles on May 10, 2018, 10:03:17 AM
Very nice....reminds me of my Zulu project!
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Arundel on May 10, 2018, 02:34:27 PM
Plynkes brings up the issue that has always kept me from diving into these plastic sets (well, that and the fact I don't need another project... ::) ). Aren't these pretty fiddly to assemble? As I understand it both arms, the head and shields all have to be cut from their sprues, made to fit into their respective holes and then glued into place - it just sounds like a lot of work. Pictures of yours truly squinting, cursing, gluing fingers together and other frustrations rise, miasma-like, in the mind. But then, I'm more a painter and gamer than a modeler.

They are lovely figures, though, and you have done a cracking job on them!  :D
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 10, 2018, 03:07:37 PM
They are a bit fiddly, but with a little practice I can get one together in about five minutes. I assemble them in batches of two or three before I go to bed. I find it quite relaxing, unless I drop a piece. Years ago I dropped the head for a Rafm ancient German figure. I spent hours looking for that head, and never did find it. I expect it will turn up when we rip up the downstairs carpet.  ;)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Smokeyrone on May 10, 2018, 07:07:42 PM
Great job
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 11, 2018, 02:03:37 AM
Here is a comparison shot of the British. The Perry figure is on the left, and the Warlord on the right.


(https://preview.ibb.co/heTofd/0510181820.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bO6KmJ)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Bloodaxe on May 11, 2018, 03:22:18 AM
Thanks.   From the pics on their websites- Perry has more figs in the box and command models, but Warlord has kneeling poses.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 11, 2018, 06:45:43 AM
Looking great so far - can I recommend sabot trays for moving these around

Having assembled almost seven hundred plastic Zulus it becomes quite straightforward and they are probably one of the easiest armies to paint

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/zulu/DSC_1100_zpstln8rzqx.jpg)

Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 11, 2018, 03:27:13 PM
Wow Eric, very impressive! I only own about 300 Zulus. I just bought a couple of packs of the Matabele from North Star to mix in  :)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Arundel on May 11, 2018, 03:59:49 PM
Good heavens, Eric! Looks like you've figured out how to assemble them with no trouble...  ;)

Just curious: how many are we looking at there?
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 11, 2018, 07:46:59 PM
Thats 750 Zulus...90% are Warlord, plus a box of Wargames Factory, Commanders all Black Tree

Can you have a square of Zulus?

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/zulu/DSC_1103_zps397fvhwj.jpg)

The whole Zulu project is documented on my Shed wars blog if interested including refigfhts of Isandlwhana and Rorkes Drift


Assembling plastics - easy cut everything off the sprue first and assemble a box at a time
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 11, 2018, 08:50:59 PM
Bloody hell.  :o :o :o  Thats not 750 that's 'Thaasands of em'  Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Arundel on May 11, 2018, 09:35:33 PM
"Man killing machine," indeed!

Isn't there a line from history (gulp - or was it the film?!) where some poor Tommy comes dashing back to the lines, panting "Here they come, thick as grass and black as hell!"? Memory wobbles and the books are away, but it was something like that. At any rate, that's what I'd say facing that collection! Splendid work!
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Plynkes on May 11, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
"Here they come, black as hell and thick as grass!"  It was a man called Bob Hall, a civilian meat contractor who had been at Isandlwana, and then later on had the misfortune to find himself at Rorke's Drift. He was with the Native Horse that decided that riding away was a better prospect than having to face the Zulu for a second time in one day. And their flight precipitated that of all the NNC that were at the station, too.

(I hadn't memorized that, my books are only a few feet away, and an Ian Knight one was waving at me and shouting "Me, sir! Me, sir! I know, sir!" in a eager, schoolboyish way. :)

Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Arundel on May 11, 2018, 10:09:58 PM
Thank you, Plynkes! Mr Knight never disappoints.

(At least I wasn't simply quoting the screenplay!  ::) )
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 12, 2018, 03:50:09 AM
So I painted one of each from the Perry and Warlord kits. I like both, but prefer the Perry figures.

(https://image.ibb.co/gmpTgJ/0511181253.jpg)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: randwulf on May 12, 2018, 04:42:10 AM
Hi,

I am just about to start painting some zulu figures myself.

Can you give any advice on the colour scheme for dark flesh tone?

Cheers,
Kev
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Bloodaxe on May 12, 2018, 08:39:21 AM
So I painted one of each from the Perry and Warlord kits. I like both, but prefer the Perry figures.

(https://image.ibb.co/gmpTgJ/0511181253.jpg)

They both look great.  Perry on left, Warlord on right? They seem to match alright.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Mike1879 on May 12, 2018, 09:17:22 AM
I love the Perry Plastic British Infantry!! Bought 3 boxes and painted one box so far !!! Some pics attached
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 12, 2018, 12:58:29 PM
Thanks guys!! Yes, the Perry figure is on the left :) Mike your Brits look fantastic!

Kev, I paint the Zulu flesh with a variety of paints. I use P3 Battlefield Brown, and Umbral Umber, GWs Rhinox Hide, and Vallejo's Chocolate Brown. The Chocolate Brown I drybrush P3 Gun Corps Brown, and the rest with Vallejo Dark Flesh. Thank for looking!
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 12, 2018, 01:01:03 PM
I forgot to mention the whole figure is coated with Agrax Earthshade :D
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Captain Blood on May 12, 2018, 01:02:35 PM
Looking good. The Perry figures are a quality step up from the Warlord ones. The proportions are better, the poses are better, the anatomy is better, the details are better, the overall effect is better.

I have some Perry Zulus in front of me to assemble right now... My first Zulus for a few years. They've tempted me back in...  ::) :)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Mike1879 on May 12, 2018, 03:47:00 PM
Looking forward to seeing them captain when you post them on this site 👍
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 12, 2018, 05:08:39 PM
Thanks Captain! I,too, look forward to seeing your Zulus. The Perry kits have really inspired me to get back into colonials. I I loved playing Sword and the Flame back in the 80s.
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gazjones on May 14, 2018, 09:17:28 AM
That line of 700 Zulu looks incredible. It chills to the bone to think of those poor boys at Isandlwana facing around 20,000. Just that 700 alone would frighten me to death. Lovely work ;)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 15, 2018, 04:21:37 PM
Well, I painted one Perry and one Warlord Brit. I like both, but prefer the Perry, so much so I just bought a second box of them. I also painted up a Zulu from a red shield regiment.

I have a quick question regarding the strap for the canteen. Was it more commonly white or would a leather brown be more proper, or perhaps a mix?

(https://image.ibb.co/k6knyy/0515180910.jpg)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Plynkes on May 15, 2018, 05:47:59 PM

I have a quick question regarding the strap for the canteen. Was it more commonly white or would a leather brown be more proper, or perhaps a mix?


That's a good question. It was part of the 1871 valise equipment, which in its pristine condition was white for most regiments, including the leather strap on the canteen. Period photos show white, but such photos are invariably of  immaculately turned out soldiers in Home Service kit. I have yet to see a photo taken in Zululand that even shows the water bottle. To a man nobody who posed for a photo seems to have had any consideration for future war gamers as they all seem to have discarded their bottle for the photographer.

One would conclude that either bright white for newly-arrived troops or a light sandy brown for troops that had stained their gear to reduce their visibility would be the way to go. At any rate I think it would be the same colour as the rest of the leather parts of the equipment. They would either stain all of it or none of it, one would think.

 I don't think the darker brown leather like your chap has on the left is quite right, but I wouldn't swear by it. I have seen it depicted that way in some of the older Ospreys, for example, but I don't know what they are basing that on. Not sure. We need an expert with a really nerdish fetish for infantry equipments to settle this one for us.


Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Plynkes on May 15, 2018, 08:45:17 PM
Having earlier said that I'd never seen a photo that showed the canteen strap on campaign I'm going to call myself a liar because I just found just such a thing in one of me books. It's a photo of some of the men of G Company 2/24th at the end of the war and their canteen straps are a pale colour (either stained or not stained white leather, it's hard to tell which in an old fuzzy B&W photo) but definitely the same colour as the rest of the straps and not "leather brown."

So at least we know that white is right (which is not necessarily the same as saying leather brown is wrong, mind).

Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Gripweed on May 16, 2018, 12:06:59 AM
Well thank you for the research, I think I will change the strap to white.  :)
Title: Re: Zulu! A bit more progress on my Zulus, with some kitbashing!
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 16, 2018, 01:14:19 PM
Hi,

I am just about to start painting some zulu figures myself.

Can you give any advice on the colour scheme for dark flesh tone?

Cheers,
Kev

All my Zulus are primed with Halfords camo brown spray ...and that's it. Army painter does the rest...Fastest way of painting up hundreds