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Title: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 15, 2018, 07:23:34 AM
Another little commission on the go of a Japanese spa or onsen. It's a bit made up as there's not much info I could find about a spa for the sengoku period and having to shrink down to the requested base size means it has to be fairly compact.

The sketch should make sense for the layout and I've started on the buildings. The vast majority of the rest will be ground work.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-140518155114-330782106.jpeg)
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(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-140518155120-330982307.jpeg)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: Elk101 on May 15, 2018, 07:27:17 AM
That's a good start. It'll be interesting to see how you take on the pool. I've no doubt it'll be good though!
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: olyreed on May 15, 2018, 07:32:01 AM
This should be good!
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: Silent Invader on May 15, 2018, 09:10:40 AM
That's a good start. It'll be interesting to see how you take on the pool. I've no doubt it'll be good though!

All of the above  :D
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: gamer Mac on May 15, 2018, 09:40:14 AM
Good start
How are you going to make the bamboo fence?
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: duhamel on May 15, 2018, 09:54:01 AM
very interesting ;D how will you make the stones of the road??
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 15, 2018, 11:20:13 AM
Thanks chaps  :)

How are you going to make the bamboo fence?

Dunno yet, there's several options and it might not even be bamboo.

how will you make the stones of the road??

Carved styrene probably.
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: Elk101 on May 15, 2018, 08:43:28 PM
very interesting ;D how will you make the stones of the road??

Would skewers be too regular?
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: duhamel on May 16, 2018, 11:47:47 AM
Would skewers be too regular?

sorry i do not understand my english is bad  :?
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 16, 2018, 12:54:19 PM
Kabab sticks  ;)

And no, they don't scale right (to my eye). Will be painting the buildings today (the woodwork at least) but still pondering the best fence solution. I've got plenty of Japanese examples it's just a matter of choosing what feels right for the project.
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: Papierschnitzel on May 16, 2018, 01:48:17 PM
I need a relaxing day in an Onsen :D And yours looks awesome already! Looking forward to the finishing.

Chris
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: Muzfish4 on May 17, 2018, 01:00:18 AM
Very interesting build - thanks for sharing.

Like Paperschnitzel, I could do with a day relaxing in an onsen. Fat chance of that around here though.  :(
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: orc on May 17, 2018, 04:29:48 AM
Promising, looking nice!!... as always James!! ;)
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: ink the troll on May 18, 2018, 09:13:28 AM
Depending on what style of fence you'll settle on, maybe some cheap bamboo or seagrass placemats might work- either cut to size or as source for raw materials?
Title: Re: Onsen
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 18, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Thanks again  :)

Started painting the buildings and bits until the fence gets resolved.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-180518092130-33160437.jpeg)
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Depending on what style of fence you'll settle on, maybe some cheap bamboo or seagrass placemats might work- either cut to size or as source for raw materials?

No, because they look like what they are unfortunately.
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: Silent Invader on May 18, 2018, 09:55:01 AM
Fast progress!  8)
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: olyreed on May 18, 2018, 10:15:21 AM
Looking really good ,🤔🤔
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: Juxt on May 18, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
It's coming on really well, as expected  ;)

The oldest unmodernised onsen I've been in was built around the 1750s, so hardly a perfect analogue, but it had a pretty similar styling and layout to what you've planned. The only sìgnificant difference was that the spring pool fed into a split bamboo chute, which diverted the water into a large barrel bath- to regulate the ~65°c water that comes out from the ground and get it closer to a 40°c-ish hot bath temperature.  Otherwise your layout feels really good, the amount and size of buildings is spot on 👌
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 18, 2018, 11:38:17 AM
Thanks chaps  :)

Will have the buildings painted tonight and will start to layout the hot spa area long with the stepping stones.

The oldest unmodernised onsen I've been in was built around the 1750s, so hardly a perfect analogue, but it had a pretty similar styling and layout to what you've planned. The only sìgnificant difference was that the spring pool fed into a split bamboo chute, which diverted the water into a large barrel bath- to regulate the ~65°c water that comes out from the ground and get it closer to a 40°c-ish hot bath temperature.  Otherwise your layout feels really good, the amount and size of buildings is spot on 👌

I honestly don't think there would've been any serious changes between the Sengoku and the 1750's so I'm happy there  :)

I'm just going to keep it with the spring welling up in the pool and let the buggers suffer  lol
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: Juxt on May 18, 2018, 05:12:36 PM
That's just begging for a miniature of a guy painted bright red from the neck down, wearing just a towel on his head and a loincloth type affair to preserve his modesty 😰
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 18, 2018, 05:49:41 PM
 lol

Tempting and if it were for me I think I'd do one  :D
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 25, 2018, 08:05:19 PM
Buildings are painted, paths are down and the spring is built. Fences will be done over the weekend.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-250518195617-33342788.jpeg)
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Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: Silent Invader on May 25, 2018, 08:22:27 PM
That is looking very inviting  8)
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: duhamel on May 25, 2018, 08:26:37 PM
it lacks water all that  :D ;)
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: olyreed on May 25, 2018, 09:14:52 PM
Lovely, I may borrow some of these ideas if that's okay
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 25, 2018, 09:17:06 PM
Thanks gents  :)

Lovely, I may borrow some of these ideas if that's okay

Course you can (and thank you for asking)  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: Silent Invader on May 25, 2018, 09:28:24 PM
it lacks water all that  :D ;)

My imagination was running wild  :D
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: orc on May 26, 2018, 05:45:15 AM
Great Looking!!! I'm quite curious about the bamboo fence...
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 26, 2018, 07:42:48 AM
Thanks  :)

You're curiosity might go on for a while yet as I'm leaning towards a yamato-bei style wall (timber).
Title: Re: Onsen - painting wip
Post by: carlos marighela on May 26, 2018, 09:26:29 AM
That's just begging for a miniature of a guy painted bright red from the neck down, wearing just a towel on his head and a loincloth type affair to preserve his modesty 😰

No, what it needs is a troop of red faced snow monkeys luxuriating in the steam.

It’s a jolly nice jacuzi James. I’m still waiting for the perfectly raked, just so pebble garden, so beloved of gardening centres the world around. :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: Plynkes on May 26, 2018, 10:10:23 AM
But I think those macaques only figured out that lounging in a hot tub is more fun than shivering in the snow in the 20th Century. Took them long enough. Stupid monkeys.



It's a rather lovely build. There was a recent video game called Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun (can they never resist having two titles separated by a colon, these computer game people?). If you ever played the old PC classic Commandos it is basically the same stealth gameplay, but based in Feudal Japan with Ninjas and Samurai instead of WW2 with Commandos and spies. Anyway, there's a mission where you have to assassinate a bad guy in one of these places. And it looks very much like the one you are building. So even if you don't know what a Sengoku period spa looked liked, you can take some solace from the fact that if you have got it wrong at least you have company. :)

Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: duhamel on May 26, 2018, 12:02:58 PM
My imagination was running wild  :D

stop immediately to imagine things naughty boy ... lol lol
Title: Re: Onsen - Landscape wip page 2
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 29, 2018, 09:06:03 PM
Started work on the walls. They are a simple ita bei (board fence). The only trick bit will be building them around the stones around the spring but I'll deal with that when I come to it  :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-290518205841-334711622.jpeg)
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Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Elk101 on May 29, 2018, 09:49:36 PM
Tidy job. When the fence hits the stones what about stepping the fence up and hiding the gap with a fern in the rocks.
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 29, 2018, 10:12:03 PM
That’s not a bad idea. Either that or bamboo (such a small area shouldn’t be a problem).
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Hupp n at em on May 30, 2018, 03:20:08 AM
Wow, fence looks good so far!  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: olyreed on May 30, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
Very smart
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 12:04:40 PM
Very interesting style. Neatly done.  8)
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 30, 2018, 05:03:52 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

Got the fences done for the whole compound. They are now being painted and once done and stuck down I'll commence with the groundwork.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-300518163107-334772405.jpeg)
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Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 05:11:09 PM
Do you know why they used what is quite a complicated fence structure?
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 30, 2018, 05:20:01 PM
Because they're awkward buggers  lol

It's a type of decoration I think along with prestige "Ooo, look what we can afford fence wise" or words to that effect.
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Dr DeAth on May 30, 2018, 05:22:37 PM
"Ooo, look what we can afford fence wise" or words to that effect.

And presumably in Japanese  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 05:54:20 PM
And presumably in Japanese  :)

 lol
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Elk101 on May 30, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
Ooooh, watashitachi ga te ni ireru koto ga dekiru kōkana fensu o mitekudasai!
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 31, 2018, 01:46:57 AM
Ooooh, watashitachi ga te ni ireru koto ga dekiru kōkana fensu o mitekudasai!

Oh google translate, how you fail us  lol
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 31, 2018, 01:49:29 AM
Walls are painted along with the stones. Groundwork next and then the planting at the rear to hide the gaps between the stones and the fence. Finally will be the painting of the spring and the adding of water effects.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-310518014321-33482686.jpeg)
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Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: orc on May 31, 2018, 01:52:47 AM
 :o Very nice!!! :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Wall wip page 3
Post by: Elk101 on May 31, 2018, 06:45:03 AM
Oh google translate, how you fail us  lol

Yeah, Google Translate properly stitched me up with that one. I don't even know what some of those words are! I could have just pointed and said "kōkana fensu" and given a look that said "yeah, mine".

Very nice painting, the timber fence came out particularly well.
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: olyreed on May 31, 2018, 07:42:59 AM
That looks very nice, any chance of doing those wooden walls for the catalogue?? Or should I contact you 😁
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: carlos marighela on May 31, 2018, 09:45:56 AM
Looking good! What are the two little free standing wooden structures at the front? Porch lights, privvies, dovecots?
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 31, 2018, 11:38:18 AM
Thanks chaps  :)

Groundwork is down and drying.

That looks very nice, any chance of doing those wooden walls for the catalogue?? Or should I contact you 😁

I'll message you  :)

Looking good! What are the two little free standing wooden structures at the front? Porch lights, privvies, dovecots?

Just some simple street lanterns.
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: archiduque on May 31, 2018, 05:08:48 PM
Excellent!! :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: Panama on June 01, 2018, 12:48:51 PM
a wonderful bit of work :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: rokurota on June 02, 2018, 11:04:13 AM
Great!
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 02, 2018, 01:32:05 PM
This is quality work!
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 02, 2018, 02:14:01 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

More to follow this evening I think.
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: painterman on June 02, 2018, 10:15:38 PM
Just discovered this post - great and unusual model James!
Simon.
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: gamer Mac on June 03, 2018, 02:50:45 PM
more stunning work
Title: Re: Onsen - Painted fences and rocks page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 04, 2018, 09:43:28 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

All done and approved. I'll take some photos on some terrain with figures tomorrow  :)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2619-040618213357-33661668.jpeg)
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cheers

James
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: gamer Mac on June 04, 2018, 11:37:54 PM
Stunning :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Marine0846 on June 04, 2018, 11:47:25 PM
You are the master of all things Japanese.
Love what you have done. :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: carlos marighela on June 04, 2018, 11:49:42 PM
Wow! Just Wow! That’s brilliant. The bamboo is a really nice touch.
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Muzfish4 on June 05, 2018, 03:29:58 AM
Simply magnificent!
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: duhamel on June 05, 2018, 05:45:37 AM
good work  :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: orc on June 05, 2018, 06:15:38 AM
 Great!!! I envy the owner of this Onsen!!!
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Elk101 on June 05, 2018, 06:49:22 AM
Very well done. Total one of a kind too, the owner should be very pleased with this. The bamboo is good too, anything bulkier could have potentially visually dominated too much.
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: olyreed on June 05, 2018, 08:35:12 AM
Now that is something really special  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 05, 2018, 08:41:30 AM
Many thanks for the kind comments chaps  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Byblos on June 05, 2018, 09:17:38 AM
Superb  :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Plynkes on June 05, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
Crumbs, that's a miniature masterpiece.

Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Codsticker on June 05, 2018, 04:30:20 PM
I think my favourite part is the bamboo- just perfect.
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: rumacara on June 05, 2018, 05:44:02 PM
Really nice work. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 05, 2018, 06:10:46 PM
Many thanks gents  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 05, 2018, 07:53:12 PM
Outstanding!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Silent Invader on June 05, 2018, 08:13:26 PM
It is a beautiful piece
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Rhubarb633 on June 05, 2018, 10:25:53 PM
Superb! :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Braz on June 05, 2018, 11:24:16 PM
Again an amazing masterpiece  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 05, 2018, 11:46:22 PM
Thanks again chaps  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: joekano on June 08, 2018, 11:26:22 PM
Wow, that is a beautiful piece of terrain!
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Byblos on August 29, 2018, 10:18:55 AM
it make me think about Zatoichi  :)
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Osmoses on August 29, 2018, 10:52:53 AM
Fantastic model. You set a high bar, but you've surpassed yourself with this.

What is the tall rough grass stuff by the spring?
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 29, 2018, 12:30:42 PM
Cheers fellas  :)

What is the tall rough grass stuff by the spring?

Halloween broomsticks from a Japanese ¥100 shop a couple of years ago but I haven’t seen any since and I only bought four (that’s all they had).
Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: Vagabond on September 04, 2018, 06:57:43 PM
Osmosis - thanks, if you hadn't resurrected this I would have missed it.

Jim as always this is awesome, there is so much to take away for inspiration. Thanks.

I really like the sticky out windows, they break up the flat wall brilliantly, the out house door is just so oriental as opposed to western, even though they are the same building, brilliant.

Title: Re: Onsen - Complete! - page 4
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 04, 2018, 07:46:27 PM
Thank you kindly  :)