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Miniatures Adventure => Old West => Topic started by: Galland on May 17, 2018, 10:36:21 PM
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A few years back, there used to be a guy that made scratchbuilt western saloons, it was a very nice corner building, and they where for sale. Anyone that can help me out here?
I am interested in western buildings over all that are for sale, but this Saloon was quite impressive.
While I am at it, I might as well ask for suggestions for stage coaches and prarie wagons that can be purchased
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Have you looked at 4Ground's stuff? They make some really nice old west terrain in both normal and rundown versions. They aren't cheap but they are really nice. I personally believe they are worth the price you pay for them.
William
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Not sure about the scratchbuilt buildings but as Gardensnake says the 4Ground one is very nice (but a bit pricey). It's a large kit and weighs in at about 3kg.
Blotz, based in Cricklade, U.K., also produce an unpainted MDF kit for one -
http://blotz.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23_29_238_30&products_id=243 (http://blotz.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23_29_238_30&products_id=243)
it's cheaper than the 4Ground one as it's not pre painted. Blotz also have a range of Wild West buildings and a few wagons.
4 Ground and Warbases both produce MDF stagecoaches and wagons. Dixon Miniatures produce a good range of wagons and a stagecoach in white metal. Bluemoon Manufacturing also have some wagons in their "Wgons Ho!" Range - http://www.oldgloryuk.com/wagons-ho/41/171/434/444 (http://www.oldgloryuk.com/wagons-ho/41/171/434/444)
RMZ
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I wonder if he's thinking of the wonderful work of Colonel O'Truth?
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Sarissa Precision
https://www.sarissa-precision.com/Old_West/cat1603369_2365906.aspx
Knuckleduster
http://knuckleduster.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_70_31
Game Craft
http://gcmini.mybigcommerce.com/28mm-wild-west-series/
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Was this the saloon?
http://johnswildwesttown.blogspot.ca/search/label/Wild%20West (http://johnswildwesttown.blogspot.ca/search/label/Wild%20West)
If so, you are looking for Colin Rush.
http://wargamingbuildings.blogspot.ca (http://wargamingbuildings.blogspot.ca)
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Thank you very much, will look in to all suggestion, as soon I am at my PC, using this i-pad gives me a headache and a unhealthy stress level hehe.
I am not a bit fan of laser cut mdf, but if good enough I will be giving it a thought.
What about Railroad locomotives and train cars?
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Could look for S gauge trains (I think that was the scale for 28m)
I don't have a train in my town. I have a larger G-scale train set that covers that pretty well :)
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Try the Bachmann on30 locos - not cheap but excellent details:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/64/2d/c3642d30026a94173201adedf1a58fe0.jpg)
https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA (https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA)
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Try the Bachmann on30 locos - not cheap but excellent details:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/64/2d/c3642d30026a94173201adedf1a58fe0.jpg)
https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA (https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA)
I have a Bachmann ON30 and it looks great in my layout. Almost perfect size, but as stated, very pricey. (I'm actually on my second one now, I bought my first somewhat cheapish, and it looks great and all, but one that looked even better came up on Ebay about a year after I bought the first that I had to have it. I really need to sell off that first loco...)
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Try the Bachmann on30 locos - not cheap but excellent details:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/64/2d/c3642d30026a94173201adedf1a58fe0.jpg)
https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA (https://www.google.com/search?q=bachmann+on30+american+old+west+locos&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm-bjh_pbbAhWDIcAKHYLQAC8QsAQIKA)
Got to agree with this - beautifully detailed locomotive which fits in perfectly (like Hentzau, i to own several of them).
RMZ
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The Bachman does indeed look the part
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7f1eZ7Y3YZo/WuXo4EWpAHI/AAAAAAAAlbY/OCnIdwmVPz4tPE-Qw-owYB6KpMahEFR8ACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_4884.JPG)
I can recommend using ON30 track for it too.
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0n30 is the only way to go:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=35212.30
If you dpn't want a train that works you can get them for a fair price on ebay, mine was 30 pounds
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I chose the Dixon 28mm train for my games. They offer a locomotive, cars and passengers in their Western range. They sell molded track sections, but I used S Gauge, model railroad track instead. I also added actual model railroading, S gauge wheel trucks to the rail cars, instead of the supplied assemblies from Dixon.
Using this train in a Southwest US/across the Mexican Border game scenario, I built a model of a large caliber ACW gun on a rail car (28mm) and used it in a skirmish game.
More information and pictures at:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=49453.msg578547#msg578547
The shield on the gun car is built of rails. The flat car is scratch built to fit on S gauge tracks. The rest of the train is from Dixon, but the cars are refitted with commercial S gauge wheel trucks. The gun is from the Huston Guns now marketed through Old Glory.
Additional information on the Dixon train below ("prices may be out of date"):
The figures in the game are from Dixon, Foundry and a few odd others. The cannon is from Houston's Miniatures, most recently sold by Old Glory.
The train is from Dixon Miniatures. As I stated, I added actual "S" gauge model railroad trucks (railroad car wheel assemblies) to the Dixon resin cast passenger cars I purchased. I also used actual "S" gauge track, instead of the Dixon molded track. In some scenarios I use switches, sidings and other specialty track pieces, round-table, crossroad, etc.
I made the flat car and artillery car in this train game. Dixon now offers a resin cast flat car and a box car for their train which I have purchased. I will be assembling them and substituting the "S" gauge trucks for them as well.
I have copied their listing below from their site that shows the £75.00 price:
http://www.dixon-minis.com/dixoncatalogue.php?maintype=12
LTV.1 WILDWEST/ACW STEAM LOCO WITH TENDER & 2 CREW (c1860-1900) £75.00
LTVC 2 Boxcar (resin cast)with double "sliding" doors either side and ramp (cast in metal) for stationery use. £25.00
LTVC 3 Flatcar (resin cast) with side supports and bogies cast in metal. £16.45
LTVC.1 PASSENGER CARRIAGE FOR STEAM LOCO (SEATS 32 PASSENGERS) not including seats & passengers. £25.00 [/font]
RT.1 RAIL TRACK - approx 1ft (30cm) x 1 £6.95
WWA.6 TRAIN PASSENGERS X 8 £8.00
WWA.7 PASSENGERS CARRIAGE SEATS x 16 £8.00[/size] [/size]
The assembly of the Dixon lead cast locomotive is a fair amount of work, but I really like their model! Redoubt also offers one, but after close inspection of them both (a friend had the Redoubt kit), I purchased the Dixon model.
Redoubt kit is shown at:
http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=78038019d56796c710b005244d64b824&ps_session=65ec08ce207e26af8af86bd9440873d3
If you have any questions or if I can provide any further information please let me know. Thanks!
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I went with a Bachman on30 loco as I managed to get it cheaper than the Dixon's one off Ebay and I didn't have to go to the trouble of sticking it all together (see the cover photo on Dead Man's Hand group on Facebook, that's the one).
I picked up an ex-display corner saloon from Blotz at a show (another bargain :)) it has featured in many of my games.
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Does anyone know if Colin is taking on anymore new business? I emailed him but have not heard from him.
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I think I have some of his buildings. They are gorgeous but very fragile, especially the balconies. I wouldn't invest there if you want to transport your stuff frequently. The MDF stuff is much sturdier and the looks fits The Old West very well.
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A few years back, there used to be a guy that made scratchbuilt western saloons, it was a very nice corner building, and they where for sale. Anyone that can help me out here?
I am interested in western buildings over all that are for sale, but this Saloon was quite impressive.
You are looking for the work of Gerald Boom. He is currently active working with styrodur, but then he did some very large western buildings from scratch using balsa wood etc. His site is https://www.shiftinglands.com/ (https://www.shiftinglands.com/) and I'm sure you can contact him over there.
And here is a link where you should see the corner saloon: https://www.google.com/search?q=saloon+shiftinglands&client=firefox-b-ab&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=tkBSZV-M_-FFSM%253A%252ClQLqihZnwtSqOM%252C_&usg=__p_hulDI1hmDxEGw79S-hXvCn_Ic%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCtqWbn9bbAhWvh6YKHUHnB8kQ9QEILjAB#imgrc=tkBSZV-M_-FFSM: (https://www.google.com/search?q=saloon+shiftinglands&client=firefox-b-ab&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=tkBSZV-M_-FFSM%253A%252ClQLqihZnwtSqOM%252C_&usg=__p_hulDI1hmDxEGw79S-hXvCn_Ic%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCtqWbn9bbAhWvh6YKHUHnB8kQ9QEILjAB#imgrc=tkBSZV-M_-FFSM:)