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Title: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Silent Invader on May 18, 2018, 09:15:42 PM
See page 3 for building of the main arch.

See page 4 for building the steps and floors.

See page 6 for the build immediately prior to painting.

See page 8 for completed painting (15/6/2018)

See page 10 for finished item (19/6/2018)

See page 13 for the added tree/bushes

See page 14 for finished item image dump




Have started a new project that will provide a sizeable piece of terrain for a few projects:

Middle Earth
Possibly WotR
Peninsular War
Sicily 1943

Influences include a Spanish monastery and of course the LotR films:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-180518205745-331822088.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-180518205745-331831104.jpeg)
 
Resulting in an outline sketch:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-180518205746-331841888.jpeg)

And a wargaming friendly layout on a 9mm MDF Board:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-180518205746-331851124.jpeg)

It will be built from plaster blocks, about 20mm x 10mm x 5-10mm:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-180518205746-33186873.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-180518205838.jpeg)

No idea how long this will take but I expect I’ll do a bit here and there.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 18, 2018, 09:19:23 PM
So many projects...

I wonder who convinced you to do that  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on May 18, 2018, 09:23:36 PM
So many projects...

I wonder who convinced you to do that  lol

YOU!!!  lol

And of course the rest of the gang  ;)

I plan to do a bit of this every now and then. A complete change for me.

Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Elk101 on May 18, 2018, 10:16:29 PM
You are going to build the ruined bridge too, right?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on May 18, 2018, 10:25:51 PM
I wish   :D

I might make some other buildings to scatter around but it’ll be very much Osgiliath-lite!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Romark on May 21, 2018, 11:28:29 AM
This'll be good  :)
As an aside,do you ever sleep ?  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on May 21, 2018, 11:31:03 AM
This'll be good  :)
As an aside,do you ever sleep ?  lol

Thanks.   :)

Little and rarely  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Captain Blood on May 21, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
This is going to be good  8)

Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: DintheDin on May 21, 2018, 01:08:36 PM
This is going to be good  8)

I bet it'll be!
I mark this thread from the start!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on May 22, 2018, 07:48:22 AM
Thanks for the encouragement  :D

I’ve yet to make more progress as having cleared the hobby table I got distracted by the possibilities all that working space and started making a mat. Soon though  ;) :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 22, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
See, many projects makes it fun  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: duhamel on May 22, 2018, 08:18:57 AM
ambitious project  ;D ;D :-*
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath WIP
Post by: Dr. Zombie on May 22, 2018, 08:25:56 AM
Madness pure madness. Im in.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: Silent Invader on May 24, 2018, 07:12:25 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

I’ve started building.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-240518190749-333411272.jpeg)

I’m using various sizes of bottle cap as the spacers and formers  for the arches

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-240518190749-33338388.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: duhamel on May 25, 2018, 06:50:30 AM
a promising start  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: Silent Invader on May 25, 2018, 07:15:54 AM
a promising start  8)

Thanks. It’s going to need quite a bit of finessing. For example I’ve decided to drill the windows out rather than to build them in. I also got a bit carried away building the front wall and have probably made it too high so might well have to cut it back in due course.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-250518071228.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: DintheDin on May 25, 2018, 07:53:20 AM
You are a master mason in scale!
This is the beauty of our hobby, one to be able to create (and modify) his own small world!
Pure magic!  :-*
Please, keep posting! 
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: duhamel on May 25, 2018, 09:03:48 AM
You are a master mason in scale!
This is the beauty of our hobby, one to be able to create (and modify) his own small world!
Pure magic!  :-*
Please, keep posting!

yes everything a machine does not do
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 25, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
That looks great (if a little time consuming).   :-* :-* Are you going to fill in the small gaps with mortar or leave dry stoned?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: Thunderchicken on May 25, 2018, 07:32:09 PM
Looking good fella!  :-*

Are you going to fill in the small gaps with mortar or leave dry stoned?

Maybe a mixture of the two?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on May 25, 2018, 08:01:10 PM
This is looking superb, great start!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on May 25, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
Looking good.

Tony
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 24/5 building begins
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 25, 2018, 08:37:36 PM
Looks promising  :)

How overgrown is it going to be (very I hope)?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 25, 2018, 10:15:51 PM
Thanks folks. Good points made/asked.  :)

I’m not wanting a drystone look. The plan (and plans change!) is to infill the major gaps during the finessing stage. I’ll probably use a paste of the plaster and some dilute PVA. As to how heavily overgrown it will be ..... I don’t yet know. I’m not planning for any trees inside it (space is tight as it is) but there’ll be tufts in walls, shrubs and maybe some ivy. Debris will be limited, on the basis that it’s been robbed out.

The  most recent change of plan is to lose the back wall to damage, as including it would require too much height for a relatively small space. The main feature is intended to be the big arch and it’ll stand out more without the wall behind it.

I’ve built up the lower sections of the walls that will support the main arch, and so the front section is now really taking shape.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-250518215920-33351970.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-250518215920-33353706.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-250518215920-333542012.jpeg)

Any joints that are off can also be corrected during finessing, as can over large blocks (which will be cut back).

NB: As I’m going to drill out the windows, I’ll have to add some plaster afterwards to turn blocks into lintels, etc.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 26, 2018, 07:54:21 AM
Looks fabulous and love the bottle top idea...however I am concerned your window drilling might shake it all to bits - hope it works

Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: Captain Blood on May 26, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
Looks good already Steve.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: Dr DeAth on May 26, 2018, 09:47:56 AM
Great start
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: beefcake on May 26, 2018, 11:54:39 AM
Great start. Is it just PVA you are gluing together with?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 26, 2018, 12:33:40 PM
Thanks folks  :)

I’m not too worried about the drilling Giles. This plaster isn’t as fragile as standard muck as it seems to have a binding agent in it (when applied for DIY, the wall doesn’t need PVAing first).

Is it just PVA you are gluing together with?

It’s not actually PVA but similar: it’s a white resin exterior grade clear-drying wood glue called Evo-Stik Extreme (blue bottle). I have been using it for years instead of PVA but I’ve just found a much cheaper alternative that I might switch to (the one in the Caulked Mat thread).

Onwards and quite literally upwards, I’ve put in the rest of the walls that form the base of the arch. When they have set I’ll add the blocks for the arch. They need to set because after I’ve daubed and placed the blocks, as they start to dry I press down on them to squeeze them into a better position. The top of the lid is 18cm above the baseboard.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-260518122052.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/5 progress
Post by: Hammers on May 26, 2018, 12:41:21 PM
That will become a magnificent build, SI! From one brick builder to another: I agree white glue joins are somewhat lacking in appearance when dry. A am looking forward to see how things develop as I am sure I can draw from your experience.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 26/5 MAIN ARCH CONSTRUCTED
Post by: Silent Invader on May 26, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
I hear you Hammers. When I made the Inn I wiped that with superglue then tidied up with GS but that’s just not practical (or probably safe) for a piece this size. I guess we shall see how it develops  :)

Anyways, at risk of spamming my own thread, another update this time with the arch actually constructed.

Any students of architecture or stone masonry should look away as there are flaws in my block laying. Yep, some just might fall out if it weren’t for the glue. All I can say is... finessing to come.

It’s a useful moment to celebrate something from Essex: Hedingham Castle has, I believe, the widest Norman arch in England.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-260518153309-33368944.jpeg)

Mine is purposefully less precise - it is abandoned and decrepit.

At this point it’s also worth me mentioning that I’ve clearly drifted away from the plan, what with having now added a roofline above the main arch.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-260518153309-33367595.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-260518153309-333661955.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-260518153309-333582077.jpeg)

The red marks show where walls will be built up with the black mark being an elevated archway. The other side of that, as indicated by the green arrow, will be external stairs set against the front wall of the courtyard.



Edit: as a side note, I made about 1,200 blocks
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 26/5 MAIN ARCH CONSTRUCTED
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on May 26, 2018, 05:56:59 PM
Looks good - well done
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 26/5 MAIN ARCH CONSTRUCTED
Post by: duhamel on May 26, 2018, 06:11:07 PM
interesting work and a personal challenge no doubt
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 26/5 MAIN ARCH CONSTRUCTED
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 26, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
Any students of architecture or stone masonry should look away as there are flaws in my block laying.

 :o





 ;D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 28, 2018, 12:59:00 PM
More progress. Presently working on the courtyard arches.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-280518125449.jpeg)

Not sure what will happen after that. Either finessing / distressing or adding in the rubble, steps and platforms. Or the flagstones.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 28, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
Steps next I think would be best.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 28, 2018, 01:21:57 PM
Steps next I think would be best.

Maybe leading up to a platform for a beacon?

 :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 28, 2018, 01:32:04 PM
Only if you want one  ;)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: Hammers on May 28, 2018, 02:14:34 PM
I live in a town *rife* with ruins from the 14th century an it used to puzzle me why what looks like the weakest part of the structures, arches and windows, are what stand the longest. Naturally its because they are not the weakest at all but are designed to bear the weight of the whole fucking thing.

(http://www.catherineandgraham.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/gotland-099.jpg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 28, 2018, 08:46:06 PM
A great picture and a great point  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 28/5 Courtyard Progress
Post by: Suber on May 29, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
This is Absolutely Marvellous, Awesome, Zingy, Incredible, Notwithstanding Gorgeous (A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.) :-*
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 12:26:27 PM
Thanks  :)

Onwards and upwards, the steps and floors are now going in.

This is the beginning of stairs that take a turn. They’ll need fine turning once the glue has set, with an additional step cut into the leading edge of each block. A floor will close the gap to the first floor doorway.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-300518121401-334731400.jpeg)

These steps ‘protrude’ from the wall. The floor that at the mo has ‘floating’ blocks will idc have plaster beneath to suggest what is left of a collapsed vaulted ceiling.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-300518121401-334752058.jpeg)

I might well add a wooden walkway from  door to door. Perhaps quite rough and temporary looking.

This is the corner gatehouse, with work still required to tidy up the steps and ‘vault’ the ceiling beneath the ‘floating’ floor blocks.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-300518121401-334761530.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: Dr DeAth on May 30, 2018, 12:44:06 PM
Great build, but are you sure this isn't getting out of control?  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 30, 2018, 12:51:17 PM
All looks very promising  :)

Are you going to be bale to lift it though?  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 12:52:24 PM
 lol

I’ve discovered that it is easy to get carried away with block building. Before you know it a wall is higher than you intended etc.

I blame Oshiro for putting the idea in my head.  ;)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 12:54:05 PM

Are you going to be bale to lift it though?  lol

I think so. Though it’ll definitely flatten out the wrinkles in the terrain mat!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 30, 2018, 01:04:18 PM
 lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 05:06:04 PM
Final bit for today.

Though the scaffold for the floors is made from foamcore, it’s actually got a thin sheet of plasticard on top as a temporary glue barrier.

The new floating floor, looking through the doorway above the great hall to the doorway the other side.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-300518165349-334812139.jpeg)

And from the other side of the great hall (or whatever it’s called in a monastery) showing the rest of the steps up to the first floor.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-300518165348-33480738.jpeg)

I think that’s pretty much the basics of the block work done, which is much quicker than I expected.  Next stages will I think be as follows:

1) tidying up the blocks (scraping, cutting, drilling, etc)
2) filling the gaps between the blocks
3) adding plaster to finish off the stairways and to form vaulted ceilings beneath the floors
4) flagstones
5) a limited amount of rubble
6) sieved sharp sand for the earthen sections (such as either side the path through the courtyard)

Edit: BTW, I’ve decided not to add windows as I don’t think they’re necessary (they could have been in
The sections of wall that collapsed)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 30, 2018, 05:23:36 PM
Edit: BTW, I’ve decided not to add windows as I don’t think they’re necessary (they could have been in
The sections of wall that collapsed)

I'm sure that if there re enough short/low sections of wall to shoot over it'll be fine without  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 30/5 Steps & Floors Progress
Post by: Silent Invader on May 30, 2018, 05:30:22 PM
I'm sure that if there re enough short/low sections of wall to shoot over it'll be fine without  :)

Probably not so with that in mind I’ve pencilled some on and will decide tomorrow  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Silent Invader on May 31, 2018, 07:40:11 PM
So I decided to add windows, of which more in a mo.

I’ve also spread the plaster and marked out the flagstones. They’ll need scraping and sanding, which will lose a few to be replaced by soil.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192145-33532397.jpeg)

Having now begun the flagstones, I’m inclined to cover the elevated floors with a similar effect.

Work done to the stairs to better define the steps. They’ll have a bit more carving when the plaster has set. The walls have also been scraped and sanded but the gaps have yet to be filled.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192145-3353118.jpeg)

The other two  floor, showing their steps and vaulted ceilings, which will need to be carved when dry.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192145-335301283.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192109-33529241.jpeg)

The courtyard arches with their formers removed.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192109-335282364.jpeg)

Windows added to the front - drilled then carved.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192109-33527244.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192109-335261975.jpeg)

A view of the central hall - it’s pretty clear from this shot that the first floors need flagstones  that match the ground level.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518192108-335231051.jpeg)

Next up
- scrape/sand flagstones
- carve/tidy stairs
- flagstones to first floors
- gap filling of blocks
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Romark on May 31, 2018, 07:42:36 PM
Looking good,impressive progress  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 31, 2018, 07:49:19 PM
Madness  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Clearco on May 31, 2018, 08:35:29 PM
Cool!  :o
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Silent Invader on May 31, 2018, 09:14:01 PM
Thanks folks  :)

I plastered and etched the flagstones onto the first floor levels. They look much better.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-310518211053.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Romark on May 31, 2018, 09:48:37 PM
Thanks folks  :)

I plastered and etched the flagstones onto the first floor levels. They look much better.
Yep,I agree,good call Steve,looking better and better each update  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: DintheDin on May 31, 2018, 10:49:40 PM
Yep,I agree,good call Steve,looking better and better each update  :)

+1 Cheers! Terrific progress!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Utgaard on June 01, 2018, 08:50:22 AM
Looks already wonderful - and a clever idea to produce bricks and so on!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: jmilesr01 on June 01, 2018, 12:07:12 PM
Wow - this is fantastic work and very inspiring!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Munindk on June 01, 2018, 01:50:36 PM
Gotta love a terrain project that actually uses scaffolding :)

The idea or using plaster for bricks is interesting, its slightly less mad then the foam brick approach.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 31/5 Flagstones & tarting up
Post by: Silent Invader on June 01, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
Thanks all.  :)

Regarding the plaster blocks, I’ve used them before. For a Medieval inn and for a 19thC Afghan watchtower.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-010618162612-335671647.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-010618162612-335552494.jpeg)

It’s basically the same approach but scaled up a bit.  :D

These were/are either drystone or decrepit models. If I was going to make say a castle in good order I think I’d use foam blocks for the conformity of build and finish.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 02:53:43 PM
Carving, scraping and sanding the plaster used for the walls and floors is now done.

The build now includes 15 full arches, 2 collapsed arches and 3 partial vaulted ceilings.

Ive also reinforced sons of the weakest  points with superglue.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143917-33587265.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143917-335862482.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143917-335852243.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143917-335842402.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143917-335831655.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143833-335821468.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143833-33581899.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143832-33580966.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143832-33579528.jpeg)

It doesn’t show up so well in this photo but I’ve added a collapsed arch to one edge of the board - as it’s a column of single blocks I drilled through and added a metal rod then reinforced with superglue.

With similar walls to each side, I can butt up additional buildings to add to the overall complex.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618143832-335782124.jpeg)

Next steps are adding the earth and a moderate amount of rubble before filling big gaps and sealing everything with dilute glue.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Romark on June 02, 2018, 03:09:27 PM
Oh my !  :-*
By the bye that's a well lit workstation you have there  ;) :)

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Malamute on June 02, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
Superb Steve, I am always amazed how quickly you build stuff. How about a few extra low lying ruined wall pieces on separate bases to represent buildings or boundary walls?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 02, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
Brill  :)

Just a small suggestion, take off the top three blocks in the tallest arch and then one the remaining top row to make it look less symmetrical.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 03:55:31 PM
Cheers chaps  :D

Sadly, Keith, have had to return indoors for the next bit, as the glue dries too quickly in the sun. ;)

Yep, Nick, a couple of smaller bases will be good. I have in mind something like this from Amon Hen (?) , which would make a good platform for a beacon:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618154910-335881917.jpeg)

I’m struggling to come up with ideas for another. Boundary walls is a definite though.

And, James, I do believe you are right:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618154910-335891072.jpeg)

 :D

Edit: makes it more about the arch, less about the apex of the roof line
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 02, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
That's the Seat of Sight (the Seat of Hearing was on the other side of Tol Brandir I think). A simple stack of blocks in a ziggurat formation would suffice I think.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 05:08:34 PM
I had to look up ziggurat  :D

Nice idea but I think I want to stick with something stylishly similar to the dominant piece and that is repurposed to take a beacon (as an option)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 02, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Sod you then  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 07:10:03 PM
Sod you then  lol

Don’t say that I have an eye on your brazier!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 07:22:51 PM
Rubble is in. The building is robbed out so it’s more a suggestion than the debris of a decimation.  I used a few whole blocks but mostly just piled-up the trimmings from making the walls, which were then drenched in dilute glue.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618191656-335971608.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618191656-335961960.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618191656-33595874.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618191656-33593696.jpeg)

Sieved sharp sand still to be added to the outer edge but I’ll probably do that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 02, 2018, 07:24:01 PM
Very reminiscent of the films  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
Very reminiscent of the films  8)

Got to have pathways for the actors to move around  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: DintheDin on June 02, 2018, 08:56:08 PM
I follow your progress with amazement! Keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: beefcake on June 02, 2018, 09:17:05 PM
Very impressed. The rubble is a great amount for gaming.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 02, 2018, 11:21:43 PM
Thanks folks  :)

I ended up doing a bit more tonight as I painted all of the plaster with the neat glue (Evostik Extreme Wood Glue - blue bottle) , working it into the cracks. At the moment none of the chinks now goes all the way through but I’ll find out for sure tomorrow when it’s dried.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-020618231624.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: beefcake on June 03, 2018, 12:07:21 AM
Does the one coat usually work or does it need multiple?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 03, 2018, 12:13:10 AM
Usually one coat is enough, though I touch it up as I go along as it gets very tacky as it goes off and will hold more in a void (the glue is much thicker and quicker drying than normal PVA).
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Elk101 on June 03, 2018, 06:57:44 AM
That does look very, very good. The vegetation placement is going to really make it pop too. Beautiful piece of terrain.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Eric the Shed on June 03, 2018, 08:14:27 AM
looking good...
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 03, 2018, 10:26:08 AM
Looking wonderful.  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 03, 2018, 11:16:18 AM
Thanks folks .... I’ll leave it a few days before painting to be sure the glue has properly dried.

Regarding the plaster, it is not as rock hard as a hard coat finishing plaster. It is softer with (I believe) some adhesive or binder manufactured in. Before it’s fully cured it’s pretty easy to carve, though it can also crumble. Much like in a conventional brick wall, the strength in the build comes from the glue used as a mortar. As the blocks are imperfectly shaped, surface contact is reduced so as the final coat of glue - which is worked into the cracks - sets, the structure becomes more robust.

Much like any unbuttressed brick wall, the major strength is in the vertical plane. For example, if the courtyard arches are pushed horizontally, there is some give. Obviously it depends on who you play with but I expect it’ll survive my games (though not so much being fallen against or dropped on its side).

It weighs in at approximately 4kg and I can lift it by the central arch (though I don’t plan to keep doing so  ;))
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: DintheDin on June 03, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
Waiting for
Thanks folks .... I’ll leave it a few days before painting to be sure the glue has properly dried.


Until the glue dries, we will be coming back to admire the stages of construction, such an instructive step-by-step tutorial!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 2/6 getting ready to rubble (10 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 03, 2018, 11:39:32 AM
Thanks  :)

While it occurs to me, I made about 1200 blocks and have about 50 whole ones left.

Cost so far has been £nil, simply because the materials were all left over from domestics DIY projects.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 03, 2018, 08:16:08 PM
Thanks - yes, free is good, in fact very, very good!   :D

It’s the end of the building stage so here are the final set images before painting and flocking:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190838-336501686.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190838-336492378.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190838-336481979.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190838-336472030.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190756-33646958.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190756-33645925.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190756-33644188.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190756-336431042.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-030618190756-33639729.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Supercollider on June 03, 2018, 08:45:20 PM
Wow that's a bit tasty!  :-*
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: DintheDin on June 03, 2018, 09:11:14 PM
A once upon a time majestic building, the place where mighty Isildur lived, now pillaged, ravaged... a ruin...
Please, tell us about its dimensions!
 
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 03, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
 :D

It’s 60 x 40 Cm and about 23 Cm high
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: jamesmanto on June 03, 2018, 11:15:36 PM
 Looking good
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 03, 2018, 11:35:03 PM
Me likey  :D

Game soon?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: DintheDin on June 04, 2018, 08:49:16 AM
:D

It’s 60 x 40 Cm and about 23 Cm high

Like a baby cot!  lol
Imposing! Cheers!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 05, 2018, 08:17:12 PM
Thanks folks  :)

Game soon?

Soon!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: armchairgeneral on June 05, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
Looking really good so far. Wondered about adding more ruined floor remnants to the outer walls to make it a more defensible perimeter?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 05, 2018, 09:00:13 PM
It’s a very good question.  :D

My take on it is that it’s just part of a bigger urban area (there will be more buildings) that wasn’t designed as a fortress. I have contemplated adding removable wooden scaffolds and barriers that could be suggestive of later defensive additions though I doubt I’ll get round to it until I need them for a game.  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Charlie_ on June 05, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Braz on June 06, 2018, 09:40:38 AM
Great build!  :-* :-* Love the layout with lots of passageways, nooks and crannies but also large open areas. And that arch...what an arch. Really gives the impression this was once a majestic place. Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: armchairgeneral on June 06, 2018, 12:31:09 PM
It’s a very good question.  :D

My take on it is that it’s just part of a bigger urban area (there will be more buildings) that wasn’t designed as a fortress. I have contemplated adding removable wooden scaffolds and barriers that could be suggestive of later defensive additions though I doubt I’ll get round to it until I need them for a game.  :)

Fair enough. You may just want the option to use it as a stand alone objective? So maybe just a few floor remnants in the corners?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 3/6 final images before painting (9 images)
Post by: Silent Invader on June 06, 2018, 02:36:23 PM
Thanks folks -much appreciated  :)

With it having been derelict for hundreds of years there won’t be any fancy plaster or other surface decoration surviving - I’m thinking vines.

So maybe just a few floor remnants in the corners?

It has vaulted ceilings which without counter pressure will have collapsed so I’m not so keen on corner  remnants that would have to be big enough to accommodate a 25mm dia base. Also, even for remnants I’d  have to add extra height to some corners, which I’m reluctant to as it would reduce access to some parts (1/1 hands etc). Thanks for the suggestions though.   :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Silent Invader on June 09, 2018, 12:10:01 PM
I think that the Osgiliath of the movies is a little too ‘ordered’ and ‘clean’, which is why I’ve gone for displaced blockwork and much ivy.

This is a Chinese village abandoned for merely 25 odd years and there is significant greening:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-090618115248-337051727.jpeg)

For detailed thoughts on the ivy choice see here:

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=109976.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=109976.0)

Though this post is the most pertinent:

Thanks all folks

TBH I don’t think that I’d be able to make ivy as effective as the Warlord Poison Ivy that I’ve used before. I couldn’t find anything by Noch but in searching for I did discover Mininatur/Silflor Summer Ivy.

I did think the Warlord product expensive for the amount provided (it no longer seems to be available) and there’s  an interesting comparison of the Warlord and Sliflor products here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?index=20&v=d8WRXILPCRs&list=PLIlgWKnZjO4zCpXJ_TlQQrAOWh8vicCQl (https://m.youtube.com/watch?index=20&v=d8WRXILPCRs&list=PLIlgWKnZjO4zCpXJ_TlQQrAOWh8vicCQl)

I ordered a large pack:

https://www.modeldisplayproducts.co.uk/scenic-materials-and-accessories/mininatursilflor/foliage/MiniNatur-Summer-Ivy-936-22 (https://www.modeldisplayproducts.co.uk/scenic-materials-and-accessories/mininatursilflor/foliage/MiniNatur-Summer-Ivy-936-22)

Which is also available as a smaller pack (but I think I’ll need a lot!):

https://www.modeldisplayproducts.co.uk/mininatursilflor/summer-ivy-small (https://www.modeldisplayproducts.co.uk/mininatursilflor/summer-ivy-small)

Btw, it can be a bit confusing because there are large packs and small packs for both large leaf ivy and small leaf ivy. The large leaves seem to be suggested for scales of 1/45 and bigger so I’ve gone for the small (I believe code 936-22 or code 936-22s). Note that in the video review above the large pack is marked 936-32 and 1:45+, so it would seem to have the larger leaves (screenshot attached below).

Great Escape Games also carry 936-32s and 936-22s but don’t seem to have the larger packets.

The ivy has arrived and is, I think, very good:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-090618115248-33709280.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-090618115248-337102227.jpeg)

And here against the colours I think I’ve decided on (though the blockwork will also get green and brown washes):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-090618115249-33711441.jpeg)

The colours for the limestone are all VMC:

1) Grey Green
2) Sky Grey
3) Approx 75% White and 25% Sky Grey

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-090618115249-33712130.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 09, 2018, 01:49:25 PM
That ivy works at treat and I might have to get some myself.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Elk101 on June 09, 2018, 02:12:33 PM
That ivy works at treat and I might have to get some myself.

Yeah, it does. Bugger!  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Eric the Shed on June 09, 2018, 05:39:01 PM
great stuff...love the ivy
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Codsticker on June 10, 2018, 03:31:17 AM
Yes, the ivy looks awesome over the stone.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Argonor on June 11, 2018, 05:49:03 AM
Impressive stuff, have to follow this!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: DintheDin on June 13, 2018, 11:04:02 AM
Yes, the ivy looks awesome over the stone.

Looks so real!  :-*
Adds colour and emphasises the age of the structure!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Silent Invader on June 13, 2018, 11:39:03 AM
Apologies for the delay in responding.

Thanks for the comments.  :D

Regarding the ivy, each pad is  about 5mm thick so it should spread quite nicely.


Painting has now started with the base coat going onto the blocks:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-130618113634.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 13, 2018, 12:44:32 PM
Looks fat  lol

I'm assuming the ivy is like a pan scourer; as in it can pulled apart and separated etc.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Silent Invader on June 13, 2018, 02:40:04 PM
Look fat  lol

I'm assuming the ivy is like a pan scourer; as in it can pulled apart and separated etc.

 :D

The leaves are attached to something that is closer to rubberised horse hair than pan scourer (the strands are very fine). Definitely will tease apart to facilitate rambling (rather than blanket) coverage of ivy.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Silent Invader on June 14, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Second colour - VMC Sky Grey - dry brushed on:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-140618122817.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Silent Invader on June 14, 2018, 06:49:54 PM
And the top coat of approx 25% VMC Sky Grey to 75% VMC White:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-140618184332.jpeg)

When it’s dry I’ll add a wash of green to the blocks and touch up the paint to the earthen areas
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: beefcake on June 14, 2018, 07:50:16 PM
Very very nice. See, I used 2 verys so it must be nice.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: Elk101 on June 14, 2018, 07:57:35 PM
Looking good. The painting has really brought out the textures.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 9/6 ivy and paint choices
Post by: DintheDin on June 14, 2018, 08:32:22 PM
Very very nice. See, I used 2 verys so it must be nice.

Very, indeed!  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 15, 2018, 11:31:02 AM
Thank you kindly folks  :D

I’ve now added a wash of dilute VMC Yellow Green and touched up any over-brushing to the groundwork.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618111058-337671290.jpeg)

And some close ups without the workbench detritus:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618112641-3377897.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618112641-337771433.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618112640-33776615.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618112640-337752448.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618112640-337742422.jpeg)

Next up is the vegetation ..... 
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 15, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
Get planting  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 15, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
Get planting  :D

Was that a whip that just cracked behind my ear  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: DintheDin on June 15, 2018, 11:55:51 AM
I am amazed by your abilities to transform those bricks to an impressive construction  :o and I believe that when you finish it, it will be one of your best works so far! Cheers!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 15, 2018, 03:46:56 PM
Thanks DtD though I have to confess that after debate with (meaning advice from) LAF gaming buddies (Malamute, Dr De’Ath, Elk101 and OshiroMT) I have added more paint!

Essentially a wash of dilute 60% Flat Earth / 40% Yellow Green that was worked especially heavily into the run points, corners and lower courses, then the highlight colour very lightly drybrushed to the tops, upper courses and edges.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153300-33786348.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153300-33787681.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153215-337851358.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153215-33784859.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153215-337831904.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153214-337822092.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618153214-33781225.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 15, 2018, 03:51:18 PM
Better  ;)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on June 15, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
It looks good - well done.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: armchairgeneral on June 15, 2018, 05:16:15 PM
Looks proper “English Heritage” now! :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Elk101 on June 15, 2018, 05:38:45 PM
Looking brilliant! The vegetation is going to totally make that pop.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 15, 2018, 07:13:12 PM
Thanks folks and talking of vegetation, I’ve started the ivy:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-150618191152.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 15, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
Betterer and betterer  :D

I do hope you are keeping the 'fall out' to use later?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Elk101 on June 15, 2018, 07:25:47 PM
Yeah, that looks the part. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 15, 2018, 07:43:27 PM
Jolly Nice
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Captain Blood on June 15, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
None too shabby...  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: DintheDin on June 15, 2018, 08:07:51 PM
Thanks DtD though I have to confess that after debate with (meaning advice from) LAF gaming buddies (Malamute, Dr De’Ath, Elk101 and OshiroMT) I have added more paint!

Essentially a wash of dilute 60% Flat Earth / 40% Yellow Green that was worked especially heavily into the run points, corners and lower courses, then the highlight colour very lightly drybrushed to the tops, upper courses and edges.


A very good choice, breaks the monotony and helps the eye to jump here and there and enjoy little details, your structure has too many to offer!
Eager to see you finishing the vegetation! Cheers!
P.S. And, of course, all this procedure is a very useful tutorial, thanks!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on June 15, 2018, 08:11:22 PM
Absolutely first-rate! A joy to behold!   :-*
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Malamute on June 16, 2018, 09:16:40 AM

Bangtidy. ;D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: duhamel on June 16, 2018, 09:25:43 AM
 8) 8) guy
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: beefcake on June 16, 2018, 11:52:28 AM
The ivy looks great. And I imagine it is helping reinforce the structure some too!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2018, 12:38:55 PM
Thanks all.

It’s no trouble doing the step-by-step as I need to have a record for other pieces I want to make.  ;)

The ivy doesn’t really add to the integrity of the structure (which is pretty sound) as it’s just tacked on with dots and/or smears of UHU. It’s quite a fiddly thing to do, as it involves tearing off a bit of ivy then getting the minimum amount of glue in the right place. Thus the leaves that work loose.  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: beefcake on June 16, 2018, 12:42:26 PM
I thought the leaves that worked loose were giant rat poos. ;)
The placement of them look very natural (the ivy that is, not the rat poo).
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2018, 12:48:30 PM
 lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 16, 2018, 12:57:35 PM
I thought the leaves that worked loose were giant rat poos. ;)

Troll shit  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2018, 01:23:23 PM
Troll shit  lol

It is true that Malamute has something planned for my once-beautiful gardens.  :o

Perhaps I should add some Troll Shit markers to the To Do list  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: beefcake on June 16, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
Troll shit  lol
On that note your next project should be tyr asleen from willow. ;)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 16, 2018, 01:53:43 PM
A vastly underrated film  :)

But no. No blue foam bricks for a while  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Argonor on June 16, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
Damn, I really wish I had the stamina/patience to do pieces like this!

The pride of any table it features on, absolutely wonderful stuff!  :-*
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: DintheDin on June 16, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
I don't know if you would like (and it is feasible) to highlight the ivy with a bit brighter green, as the leaves play with the light.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
Thanks all  :)

I don't know if you would like (and it is feasible) to highlight the ivy with a bit brighter green, as the leaves play with the light.

That’s a very good suggestion that I shall implement. Many thanks!  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: DintheDin on June 17, 2018, 09:05:21 PM
Thanks all  :)

That’s a very good suggestion that I shall implement. Many thanks!  8)

Thank you!
At first I was a bit shy to suggest this, fearing that if the ivy leaves were too brittle, if you tried to dry brush them they could be transformed to troll droppings  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/6 .... Painted!!
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2018, 09:37:55 PM
 :D

Be assured that I value all suggestions. Even though I don’t use every suggestion, I still appreciate the interest and effort.  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Silent Invader on June 19, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
It’s taken about a month but is now complete. Just a reminder that it measures approx 60cm x 40cm x 23cm tall and will serve historical as well as fantasy (H/LotR) projects.

I’ll be making a few more items but they’ll be posted in the Middle Earth project thread (in Fantasy) as they won’t be multi genre.

With painting completed the vegetation was added, starting with the ivy, which was tacked in place with UHU clear glue. The upper leaves were drybrushed with VMC Olive Green.

Atop and within the walls and rubble piles I added small straw-coloured  tufts (Mordheim Turf by Citadel). I then added, including to the ground, an ad hoc mix of 6mm tufts by Gamers Grass, using Light Green and Mixed Green, from both the Small and the Wild packs. The flock that followed  is a mix of 4 pinches of Javis Static Grass No.2 Summer Mix 2mm (JHG2) to 1 pinch of Woodland Scenics Coarse Grass Burnt Grass (T62) and 1 pinch of Woodland Scenics Coarse Grass Yellow Grass (T61), with excess brushed away after drying.

The finished piece:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144355-338761015.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144355-338752077.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144355-33874127.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144355-33873126.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144355-338721065.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144052-338711426.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144052-338701972.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144052-338691290.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144052-338681215.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618144052-338671017.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143949-338662119.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143948-338652159.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143948-33864677.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143948-338632423.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143948-338621508.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143902-338612242.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143902-338601542.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143902-338591537.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143902-338582326.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143902-338571536.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143805-338561814.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143805-33855994.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143805-338541075.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143805-33853260.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-190618143804-338521363.jpeg)

I will likely add the odd separately-based tree depending on scenario etc, probably Birch for most games and Palms for pirate actions.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: aircav on June 19, 2018, 03:22:09 PM
lovely stuff Steve  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Romark on June 19, 2018, 04:38:50 PM
Excellent build,been an interesting journey from blueprint to finished product  :)
The ivy and the tufts are the cherry and icing on the cake too,finishing touches that make the model really look complete.
Very Well done  :)
Cheers
Keith
P.s. Only disappointment is that you didn't include one of your trademark chickens in the build !  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 19, 2018, 05:01:27 PM
Splendid  8)

I still think it needs some small trees and bushes  ;D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Silent Invader on June 19, 2018, 06:39:14 PM
Thanks chaps - much appreciated  :)

I did think about it but “hand space” is tight for permanent large trees and there aren’t any saplings available in the type I’m using for this project.  A couple of scrubby bushes would be good but to be honest, I’ve yet to add any small bushes to this terrain set as I haven’t found any to buy or a way of making them that gives me quite what I want.  More positively, if I ever find what I want they’ll be easy to add.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Charlie_ on June 19, 2018, 07:28:47 PM
Fantastic!

For bushes, have you looked at these from the Model Tree Shop?

https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/shrubs-bushes.html
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 19, 2018, 08:49:57 PM
Love the way you have deployed the ivy.  It certainly gives the impression of an abandoned or even slighted building.   :-* :-*

However I have to agree with James about it needing a few small bushes or trees to make it look completely overgrown.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Charlie_ on June 19, 2018, 09:07:08 PM
Or what about just more ivy? Part of it could be COMPLETELY covered.

(https://previews.123rf.com/images/mulderphoto/mulderphoto1706/mulderphoto170600050/79524744-overgrown-ruins-of-abandoned-mansion-abkhazia.jpg)

But perhaps not so suitable for Osgiliath?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 19, 2018, 09:32:45 PM
For bushes, have you looked at these from the Model Tree Shop?

https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/shrubs-bushes.html

I’m on the mobile site looking at those, are they really £15 for two?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Silent Invader on June 19, 2018, 09:44:33 PM
Thanks guys. Appreciated.

TBH Gary, I’m not aiming for a completely overgrown look. Partly because if the building was completely overgrown then so would be the rest of the table, which would mean a lot of trees and shrubs. I’m also aiming for something not completely at odds with the movie depiction, which IIRC was almost devoid of vegetation. But I agree, if I was aiming for completely overgrown then colonising trees and shrubs would be the way to go.   Much the same applies to the ivy Charlie. As your picture shows if it were completely overgrown the walls would be covered with sheets of the stuff. I’ve gone for the minimum amount I’m content with, simply not to obscure too much blockwork and because it is expensive.  :D


For bushes, have you looked at these from the Model Tree Shop?

https://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/shrubs-bushes.html

Strangely, I hadn’t considered them and they’re very nice. Strangely, because I have had a fair number of trees from the same place!  I’ve switched over to Noch Profi trees for this project and those bushes might just work with them . Thanks.  :D

Much appreciated chaps. :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Silent Invader on June 19, 2018, 09:45:29 PM
I’m on the mobile site looking at those, are they really £15 for two?

When I looked earlier I thought I read £15 for 10 pieces.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 19, 2018, 10:23:58 PM
Yes, after further exploration it is £15 for ten. Not bad really. I might have to get some  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Charlie_ on June 19, 2018, 11:19:14 PM
They are quite pricey still at £15 for ten, but they are very good. I have some in dark green and some 'red' ones. The red ones are really good, the added colour is fantastic, makes the green ones look rather boring. I think I'm gonna order some yellow ones someday soon.

These are the Type D ones, 20-30mm tall and 20mm wide.

(https://i.imgur.com/E76iNLe.jpg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Silent Invader on June 19, 2018, 11:24:38 PM
That’s nice. I expect I’ll get some yellow ones.  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Quendil on June 20, 2018, 09:22:15 AM
Great work it looks stunning
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on June 20, 2018, 09:33:43 AM
Fantastic Project  :-*

Well done and thank-you for the tutorial.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 19/6 .... FINISHED!! 25 images
Post by: Silent Invader on June 20, 2018, 11:04:54 AM
Thanks folks - much appreciated  :)

I’d call it a shared journey rather than a tutorial  :D.

TBH I logged progress as I have other buildings to make idc and I’ll extract what I’ve posted here into a PDF as a reminder.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2018, 11:43:56 AM
So I sought opinion, I listened, I considered, I reflected, I researched ..... and yes there will now be a tree  :D

I couldn’t find one I like for the job, so I’m making it. Nothing new in the approach, it’s just a bunch of twisted wires protruding from a short length of styrene tube. I was going to cover it with Milliput but I’ve used flour and superglue (a job for gloves and ventilation- NOT recommended) to secure the joins and it seems stiff enough to go straight to a skim of GS.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/33/2031-250618113340.jpeg)

It’s going to be a Sweet Chestnut and I shall leave the crown accessible so I can position a Gondorian Ranger in it.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Mindenbrush on June 25, 2018, 12:10:22 PM
And at the same time you cand make some of these bushes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3zjpADOGgw
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2018, 12:26:11 PM
And at the same time you cand make some of these bushes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3zjpADOGgw

Yep  :D

That’s a very good tutorial btw, though I might use rubberised horse hair rather than sisal.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 25, 2018, 12:28:16 PM
Looks promising. How you going to leaf it?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2018, 12:37:04 PM
That’s a very good question.

I’m contemplating making a leaf-shaped cutter from tube then punching them out of either paper or .25mm styrene sheet. I’m leaning towards paper as I can curl that slightly and fix the shape with thin superglue. Will experiment in due course.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 25, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
There are companies that supply laser cut leaves but knowing what you’re like that’s not an option  lol

You could also use very teased out capoc for the smaller branches and then cover those with the chosen flock/leaf type.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2018, 02:11:04 PM
The capoc is a great idea. I’ll think about laser cut leaves but most I’ve seen as the wrong size.  :D

Edit:
Actually there are some  very nice in-scale leaves available but I just can’t find Sweet Chestnut .
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 26, 2018, 09:03:35 PM
Slapped some GS onto the tree armature. When it’s cured I’ll shave some parts back a bit. I still need to solve the Sweet Chestnut leaf problem.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-260618205935.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 26, 2018, 09:05:08 PM
Just out of curiosity, why gs and not some normal ready mixed spreadable filler?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 26, 2018, 09:21:59 PM
I like working with GS (yes, I’m odd)  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: snitcythedog on June 26, 2018, 11:11:58 PM
The capoc is a great idea. I’ll think about laser cut leaves but most I’ve seen as the wrong size.  :D
Edit:
Actually there are some  very nice in-scale leaves available but I just can’t find Sweet Chestnut .
Another option for paper leaves are commercial punches.  I have picked up a couple of these and they work very well.  It might not help for the exact type of leaf but it is a pretty good option.
http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/101-punches (http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/101-punches)
It is either that or scan in the chestnut shape and have some laser cut it to size and number of copies that you need. 
Hope that gives you another idea or two. 
Snitchy sends
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 26, 2018, 11:31:18 PM
Cheers Snitchy. Great tips. I’ve not seen the leaf punches before and they are nifty. 8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: beefcake on June 27, 2018, 04:49:03 AM
And they do roof tile punches as well. That would be great with plasticard if it is strong enough to cut.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: DintheDin on June 27, 2018, 08:20:57 AM
And they do roof tile punches as well. That would be great with plasticard if it is strong enough to cut.

Thank you! Great news! I shared this with some friends!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 27, 2018, 12:22:26 PM
Yep, the punches do look useful . So much so that I’ve ordered the Big Branch version.

It’s a bit of an experiment but the cutter produces  branches 25mm long. I’m hoping that if I snip off the top half the remaining 12.5mm has leaf sizes that I guesstimate at 4-6mm. Sweet Chestnut leaves are up to 20cm in length, which at 1/56 is 4mm. I’m thinking that I can cut them from green paper before tacking on with superglue then washing with dilute PVA before painting. We shall see!

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-270618121159-340201585.jpeg)

The proposed location for the tree (with an archer in the crown).

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-270618121159-340111295.jpeg)


Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 29, 2018, 11:34:01 AM
The tree, refined:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-290618113152.jpeg)

It’s tempting to paint it before attaching the small branches with leaves but then I’d be supergluing to paint rather than to structure.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: DintheDin on June 29, 2018, 11:40:10 AM
They came out very nice, eager to see them finished! Cheers!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 29, 2018, 12:25:52 PM
Use emulsion glue and not super glue then there won’t be a problem.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 29, 2018, 12:40:22 PM
Use emulsion glue and not super glue then there won’t be a problem.

Emulsion glue will penetrate through the acrylic paint and undercoat to bond to the structure?
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 29, 2018, 12:47:59 PM
http://www.cemedine.co.jp/e/product/emulsion.html (http://www.cemedine.co.jp/e/product/emulsion.html)

Quote
Many types of emulsion adhesives contain less resin solid. Adhesiveness is ensured by "anchoring effect" where the resin permeates the gap of the adherend to be hardened in the form of wedges. Therefore, insufficient pressing force will cause defective holes on the adhesion surface and insufficient permeation, resulting in substantial reduction in the bonding strength. Sufficient consideration must be given to determine the amount of coating, pressing force and pressing time.

There won’t be any pressing force - fragile paper stalks some of them to the lower surfaces of the branches - so I don’t see how it’d work. Also the GS that I want to stick to isn’t permeable.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 29, 2018, 12:49:13 PM
It’s not that stuff. Going out on the piss shortly so I’ll get you a link tomorrow.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on June 29, 2018, 12:50:42 PM
Ok  - in that case I am on hold pending your advices. So don’t get lost.  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 29, 2018, 04:33:33 PM
Nah  ;D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 01, 2018, 01:05:33 AM
Aquabond 50

http://www.adhesivebrokers.co.uk/aqua-bond-water-based-adhesives/aquabond-50 (http://www.adhesivebrokers.co.uk/aqua-bond-water-based-adhesives/aquabond-50)

Great stuff to use. Takes a little bit of practise though.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: Silent Invader on July 01, 2018, 10:23:21 AM
Thank you.

Though I have to be honest and admit that the branch cutter arrived in the post and in my enthusiasm* I resorted to superglue.  :)



*it’s done  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 25/6 .... Adding a tree .......
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 01, 2018, 11:13:15 AM
Won’t bother next time  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Silent Invader on July 14, 2018, 09:20:33 AM
After much thinking, testing, experimenting and faffing (and not necessarily in that order) I have finally finished adding a tree and bushes, which means that the piece really is now finished (with thanks to all who have aided me over this  final hurdle  :D).

In short, a mature tree just didn’t look like the sneaky interloper that I wanted it to be, so I settled on a look akin to a younger, colonising species (Downey Birch was my guide).

I salvaged the foliage from the mature tree, which became the bushes. This foliage had been made by dry brushing clumps of rubberised horse hair with VMC Military Green, then painting on a very dilute PVA to which had been added some drops of VMA Mud, then sprinkling a mix of equal volumes of Woodland Scenics Coarse Tuft Yellow Grass T61, with Woodland Scenics Coarse Tuft Light Green T63, and Javis Scatter Heath Green No17.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083529-34254234.jpeg)

I made the tree by painting a suitable twig with VMC Military Green, then dry brushing with VMC Green Brown, Deck Tan and then finally a bit of Off White. To bulk out the stubs of branches, I used UHU to stick on a few small ‘blobs’ of WS Clump Foliage Light Green FC682. UHU was also used to add rubberised horse hair, into which I worked some VMC German Cammo Brown. PVA was mixed with VMC Olive Green and a little water and ‘painted’ in dots, blobs and smears onto horse hair, onto which I sprinkled Javis Scatter Heath Green No17. When dry, I lightly dry brushed the outer leaves with VMC Olive Green.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083529-342531682.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083529-342521538.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083529-342512379.jpeg)

I also added bushes growing out of the block work:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718092814.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718092610.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083529-342501871.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083407-34249870.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083406-342481614.jpeg)

And with a Perry WotR for scale (it is a big piece):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083406-34247737.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083406-342461434.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/34/2031-140718083406-342451318.jpeg)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 14, 2018, 09:58:11 AM
Turned out well  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: beefcake on July 14, 2018, 10:07:15 AM
Very cool. I expected the stone to be greyer but the white looks amazing.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Silent Invader on July 14, 2018, 01:49:50 PM
Thanks chaps  :)

The stone is highlighted mostly a pale grey - it’s probably the lighting and contrast with dark recesss that is making it seem whiter.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: DintheDin on July 14, 2018, 03:30:53 PM
Lovely!  :-* :-* :-*
Can't stop looking at these pics again and again!!! Many congrats!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Romark on July 14, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Bloggard on July 14, 2018, 05:10:03 PM
top-notch.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Elk101 on July 15, 2018, 07:24:14 AM
That has turned out very well indeed. Good idea on the birch, it's very effective.
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Silent Invader on July 15, 2018, 09:00:15 AM
Thanks for all the comments. Most appreciated. Am very much looking forward to playing with it, so it should appear in many more photos (though I also have to work out how to store it dust free .....  :D).

That has turned out very well indeed. Good idea on the birch, it's very effective.

Thanks Steve but I don’t think I can claim the idea of a birch. I was somewhat fixated on a sweet chestnut and I think James (OshiroModels) was the first to suggest birch. In my determination for sweet chestnut I resisted (wasting time and money in the process  :D) but I took the right path in the end.  lol. Incidentally, the bushes in the walls were I think originally suggested by you, as indeed was taking bolder vegetation to the top of the main arch - both of which I initially resisted but were great calls.  8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: DintheDin on July 15, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
I keep revisiting this thread, the last pictures you have taken are so inspiring!  :o
Eagerly waiting to see the monastery as a center piece in one of your next games!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: Silent Invader on July 15, 2018, 10:10:07 AM
That’s very kind of you DtD.  :)

I have plenty more pictures if you’d like to see some more  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 14/7 .... Finished tree & bushes
Post by: DintheDin on July 15, 2018, 10:20:01 AM
That’s very kind of you DtD.  :)

I have plenty more pictures if you’d like to see some more  lol

Drop them here, please and somebody will see them  lol
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Silent Invader on July 15, 2018, 05:51:03 PM
Ok  :)

Basically a dump of images follows so there’ll be a few duplications with prior posts.

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Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: DintheDin on July 15, 2018, 06:18:20 PM
Much obliged, sir!
Wherever the eye goes, it is a joy!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Silent Invader on July 15, 2018, 07:25:36 PM
You’re welcome  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: miltiades on July 15, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
you are a perfectionist sir. A very inspiring job
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Elk101 on July 23, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
Just catching up on the photos; awesome piece of terrain!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Silent Invader on July 23, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
Thank you chaps. Much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: SABOT on July 24, 2018, 01:06:38 AM
It’s all been said already but top notch Sir!👍
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Malamute on July 24, 2018, 08:32:01 AM
Looks great Steve, very nicely done, all the different vegetation really does the job. ;D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Mindenbrush on July 24, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
Excellent work  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Silent Invader on July 26, 2018, 08:09:14 AM
Thanks folks!  :D
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: Dr DeAth on July 26, 2018, 08:59:05 AM
Top job!
Title: Re: Decrepit Monastery/Osgiliath UD 15/7 Dump of 29 images - some duplicates
Post by: tom q vaxy on June 01, 2019, 05:17:51 PM
most excellent thread!

fantastic "discovery" (of it) on my part via pinterest.