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Title: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: vodkafan on May 22, 2018, 12:09:23 PM
I know why Napoleonic regiments had two colours and it is a wargaming convention to put both in a unit. But I wondered if there was a similar convention to have two flags in an ECW unit on the table. So far as I know, each company had it's own single flag?

Comments welcome
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: Sparrow on May 22, 2018, 04:51:40 PM
Yep - each company had a colour so you can put as many as you like /feel is aesthetically pleasing with your ECW Infantry. (With cavalry each troop had it’s own Cornet and with Dragoons each company had it’s own Guidon). The ECW is a flag rich environment!

Hope this helps
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: robh on May 22, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
For the bigger regiments you could have up to 12 Companies. :)
Each flag denotes the Company Commander and is usually a design variant on the Regimental Commanders Standard (Regimental not necessarily his personal Coat of Arms)

Good overview here:
http://tmg110.tripod.com/british6.htm
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: vodkafan on May 22, 2018, 07:27:01 PM
I think I am going to go for two flags on the command base, which will then be six figures per base.
I was thinking of just getting away with one but it wouldn't look as nice.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: Phillius on May 22, 2018, 08:22:31 PM
My regiments have one, two or three flags, depending on the size of the unit.

Each one represents a random company or commanding officer flag.

I like the look of oversized flags.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: has.been on May 22, 2018, 09:42:58 PM
Remind me when you next drop by & I'll lend you some information.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: fastolfrus on May 22, 2018, 09:43:47 PM
Some battlefield formations could actually be brigades so you could field "units" with flags from different regiments
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: vodkafan on May 22, 2018, 09:45:19 PM
Remind me when you next drop by & I'll lend you some information.

OK
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on May 23, 2018, 06:00:16 PM
Also, bear in mind that the Royalists (only) used the "gyronny" design, in which the field was divided into segments, according to the seniority of the company, emanating from the centre - Gerard's (blue and yellow/orange), the Duke of York's (black and red), and a few others spring to mind.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: fastolfrus on May 23, 2018, 09:39:41 PM
Also, bear in mind that the Royalists (only) used the "gyronny" design, in which the field was divided into segments, according to the seniority of the company, emanating from the centre - Gerard's (blue and yellow/orange), the Duke of York's (black and red), and a few others spring to mind.

Apsley's regiment (black & white) and the Carmarthenshire Militia are noted as gyronny colours, but gyronny may only have had six colours per regiment. Speculation that the Irish regiments sent out by Stafford may have carried gyronny colours too, so you could conjecturally add some more variety there.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: Arlequín on May 24, 2018, 02:23:26 AM
Contemporary engravings often represent stylised regiments as having three standards each, which I suspect was based on the appearance of a three company 'battalia'.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: Timmo on May 25, 2018, 08:12:22 PM
I have my flags in pairs on separate 40mm round command stands with an officer figure. (I have old size 25mm figures and I suspect 28mm would need a 50mm round base.) I have far more command bases than I do units. Since most Royalist battalia were made up of several small regiments a mix of flags is entirely appropriate and they look good.

I have drummers and NCOs on separate bases.
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: Codsticker on May 26, 2018, 03:15:11 AM
All the above is a good excuse to buy all the flags and make many Ensigns and/or command stands. :D
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: bigredbat on May 28, 2018, 02:46:47 PM
Six.  ;-)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OEvwLd5oxfs/WolhhHzdnUI/AAAAAAAAy2c/goMJnkx3NBMqy5tFpOwqoOi3KnoX-6E_gCKgBGAs/s1600/IMG_8161.JPG)
Title: Re: ECW regiments-1 standard or 2?
Post by: vodkafan on May 29, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
 :o oh my...