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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: sir_shvantselot on May 27, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
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Well. I have a large Warhammer 7th Edition orcs and goblin army and haven’t played with the models since then. Wasn’t impressed at how GW split up my faction into about ten necessitating the purchase of lots more models!
But took the dive at the Pit Gaming Store in Borehamwood last week with a 1000 Moonclan Grot list.
Opponent played Khorne, so I was not hopeful of victory, and did indeed lose, but not by much at all. We just piled into each other so I could learn the game mechanics. The 60 grots held down the mass group of Bloodletters for three turns before being cut down. But the squigs piled into the huge daemon of Khorne thing - and ate it. My heroes weren’t up to much, other than quite a cool magic blast which caused a lot of mortal wounds. Probably would have been more fun if we’d played with decent amounts of scenery!
Not sure how much tactics there was in the game. And the swirling morass of melee seemed tactically pointless but seemed a lot closer to actual medieval combat than the tidy but unwieldy lines of seventh edition Warhammer were.
If I gross up my army to 2k, or 1950, using what I have, it looks like this:
Warboss on Cave squig
Grot shaman x 2
60 Grots
Mangler squig x 2
25 squigs
8 squig herders
5 squig hoppers
Fanatics
Giant
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Pulled these out the garage for Mantic’s Vanguard, which is taking off a little in my local gaming store, the Pit Gaming Shop in Borehamwood, Herts. They’re so old they wouldn’t fit aesthetically into AoS anyway I reckon. Bit Oldhammer almost. Will spruce em up. But torn about what to do about basing the orclings. Vanguard requires a square base. But want to use for AoS too potentially if I ever get round to a proper goblin army. Having read the rules, what’s the problem with basing on circular bases and marking rear and front with a line on each side like war machine for Vanguard?
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Someone I play Saga with also threw into conversation they’re open to Dragon Rampant and bought a copy. So I thought I’d rebase and spruce up some Chaos warriors and some ogres from Warhammer seventh edition that have been in the garage for a decade. Maybe I could throw them into something AoS. My local opponents won’t be bothered about proper factions as long as points are roughly the same. Was quite fun seeing how my painting had changed and using aggrellan earth and blood for the blood god etc. This is my proposed list and I am just wondering what to do with the extra point to get to 24.
Dragon Rampant list
12 chaos warriors (heavy foot and terrifically shiny armour) 6 points (including leader)
3 ogres (bellicose foot) 4 points
Enormous giant (greater warbeast) 6 points
Goblin archers (light foot; fearful) 2 points
Wizardling (light foot) (Thunderbolt; almighty prod; heal thee) 5 points
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Played Vanguard on Saturday night at the Pit Gaming Shop. I played the following list:
Orclings x 4
Morax x 4
Gore rider
Troll + heavy weapon
God speaker
Krudger + heavy weapon + lucky charm (one reroll)
Against Abyssals.
Great opportunity to use my old GW metal giant so we played the giant scenario.
The giant randomly walked towards the Abyssals who fired some magic at him and thus got 3 VPs in the first round (my heart sank as it’s only 1VP for killing anyone).
Also the Abyssals started taking out grunt orclings with charges and ranged fire. My heart sank even lower.
Then the Abyssals Knights charged into my troll and a savage Orc. And didn’t kill them.
At which point I realised the Orcs were just nails. And piled everyone in, pushing them at least into contact with fatigue.
The Orcs hit like a truck in each case. They caused massive amounts of wounds. The game has an interesting mechanic for warrior models whereby you don’t just die if you’re reduced to 0 wounds but check against your nerve (leadership) with modifiers based on how hard you got hit, and you’re only off if you fail. So you can hang around a couple of lucky turns for someone with high nerve.
But over a few turns the Orcs hacked the Abyssals down to a man.
I benefited from having kitted some Orcs already with armour piercing characteristics out with heavy weapons, which neutered Abyssal armour even more. Next time I’d probably ditch the savage Orcs and a few upgrades for another gore rider.
The game flowed well. Not sure how the Orcs would fare against a shooty crew. Not sure what my opponent could have done better, other than staying away from me and chasing the giant....
Anyway, fantastic to use my Orcs from Warhammer 7th Edition (and which frankly are from the late nineties). It’s all good fun buying new miniatures every few weeks for the lead pile but shouldn’t we be using what we have.
Anyway, a fun rules set. Some pics below.
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Finished painting and basing some Orclings I have used for Vanguard. And sprucing up orc gors riders that hit like a truck.
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And most of the way through sprucing up some marauder horsemen from GW. Real pain to paint. But I kind of see them as evil Dothraki now. Will use them as light horse with shortened range for Dragon Rampant.
This is the list currently:
12 chaos warriors (heavy foot and terrifically shiny armour) 6 points (including leader)
3 ogres (bellicose foot) 4 points
Enormous giant (greater warbeast)
Marauder horsemen (light horse; shirt range missiles)
Wizardling (light foot) (Thunderbolt; almighty prod; heal thee)
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Great stuff! I really like the chaos warriors with the red and white shields.
One thing I noticed: Heavy Foot don't have the "terrifically shiny armour" upgrade in the DR rules (it's reserved for Bellicose Foot). I think that's because they'd then be a 12-strength-point unit with Armour 4 (and Armour 5 when in Wall of Spears/Shields formation) - making them almost a double-size Elite Foot unit for the same price - in defence at least. Have you played them like that? If so, how did they go?
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I see that Mantic are going to release rules for the Armies in Uncharted empires for Vanguard in December as a free pdf. So that will include the warriors of chaos ones (Varangur?)
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It's always nice to see old armies marching back to war!
Like your models and wish you a lot of fun on the battlefields. ;)
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Thematically those Chaos Warriors would be better as Offensive Heavy Foot (attack with a 4+ rather than 5+) or Elite Foot.
I don't think you will want to have two Wild Charging units in the same army. You effectively only have control of 60% of your force. I would make the Ogres Heavy Foot, perhaps again Offensive. So have
Chaos Warriors - Elite Foot
Ogres - Reduced model count Offensive Heavy Foot
Horsemen - Light Riders /short range
Giant - Greater Warbeast
Wizard - RMU Light foot wizardling.
Again would a chaos wizard really go in for healing magic? Perhaps Dragons Breath would be better thematically and also help protect your hard hitters from enemy missiles.
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Finished painting and basing some Orclings I have used for Vanguard. And sprucing up orc gors riders that hit like a truck.
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It's always nice to see old armies marching back to war!
Like your models and wish you a lot of fun on the battlefields. ;)
Some really helpful tips. And thanks for the warm engagement.
My opponent is likely to be free in the new year so I’ll let you know how Dragon Rampant goes (unless anyone is local to Borehamwood Hertfordshire and fancies a game beforehand...)
It’s also occurred to me I can use this as an opportunity to repurpose my Orc Warhammer army without having to buy loads more for AoS, and play a game with a lower model count and fun mechanics.
I am slowly sprucing that Orc army up, and trying to give it all a bit of an old hammer feel as the minis range from the 1990s to the early 2000s plastics.
The Spellcrow heads are great for that as they are a modern take on 1990s Orciness.
I was never happy with these Black Orcs as I never understood how to paint and highlight metal properly. And they never had much character. And you needed 30 of them which I never had. So I’ve added some Spellcrow heads and will just spray paint them silver.
Hopefully they can be a unit of 12 in Erehwon or units of 4 hearthguard in Saga Age of Magic.
I’m wondering if there will be scope for my four Orc plastic chariots, and how I should base them.
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Well done so far.
I'd like to read more about your games.
Cheers
GS
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Those heads look great, nice find. Adds some different character to the orcs.
I'm fairly local (in Hitchin) and have a bunch of oldhammer figures I have been using in Dragon Rampant if you fancy a game some time.
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Those heads look great, nice find. Adds some different character to the orcs.
I'm fairly local (in Hitchin) and have a bunch of oldhammer figures I have been using in Dragon Rampant if you fancy a game some time.
We’ll work out something, young families notwithstanding.
Anyway, a half game of Vanguard, curtailed alas by real life as one opponent had to rush off and finish an assignment. But good fun to test out the mechanics.
Good to see Brettonians on the table again, proxied Basileans. In turn two the giant walked straight into Grimgor, the Orc boss and bashed a couple of wounds off him, as well as wounding a mate. The Knights on the hill could not resist charging into the Orcs at its base and were counter-charged by swarms of snotlings, who are nails supporting something with armour piercing bashy qualities, like a savage orc. Zapbukkit, da Orc godspeaker was the hero of the show, zapping the giant and getting lots of VPs.
Lovely set of rules. Small moan - your crew gets 3 red power dice + 3 extra red dice for an orc leader. The ten quid box of dice has five red dice. Ronnie! Still, as I’m using GW miniatures I thought I’d just buy another box in solidarity.
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Glad to see that there's some love for Vanguard on these forums. Haven't had the time to post up some pictures myself, but I've been playing it quite a lot recently, and loving every game of it.
Something tells me that Mantic might have a bit of a sleeper hit on their hands with this set of rules, provided some buzz goes around on the internet :)
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I see that Mantic are going to release rules for the Armies in Uncharted empires for Vanguard in December as a free pdf. So that will include the warriors of chaos ones (Varangur?)
Annoyingly all my Chaos stuff is based on round bases and you really cannot use them in Vanguard. I now have 18 mounted chaos warriors. Anyway, a bit of Xmas work. Two units of horse warriors in Saga Age of Magic; three units in Erewon I have on pre order; 3 in Dragon ranpant when I eventually play a 32 point game (or indeed any game...)?
Also the hellcannon. I remember bringing it into a GW store in Brent Cross, now long gone in around 2008. A regular looks at it and asked mockingly, “did you put that together with a hammer mate?” I answered “how did you know?” And he used a range of expletives about his efforts to make his, particularly re assembling the cannon itself. Anyway, hopefully it can be some kind of artillery for my chaos army in Saga and it could also be a reduced size unit of heavy archers in Dragon Rampant. I’ve got the crew somewhere. Hope nobody will notice the wheels are all on squiff.
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You can't use round bases in Vanguard? Sounds like that'll stand in the way of the rules becoming a hit, to be honest.
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You can easily use round bases. Whilst the rules aren't written for it, the changes needed to make it work are really minor.
But yes, ask the fans over on Facebook and you will be told, ad nauseum, that the bases sizes are overly important, and that you can't use round bases.
I've played a lot of games with round-based miniatures; never ever has it been an issue :)
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Ah, that's alright then. Sounds like it's only a problem if you need to go with a full on Rules As Written, dare I say "competitive", type of crowd. Which I never do. :)
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You can easily use round bases. Whilst the rules aren't written for it, the changes needed to make it work are really minor.
But yes, ask the fans over on Facebook and you will be told, ad nauseum, that the bases sizes are overly important, and that you can't use round bases.
I've played a lot of games with round-based miniatures; never ever has it been an issue :)
Would the changes be painting dots or a line on either side of the round base like Warmachine players do, to have a front and back arc?
Anyway, did a bit more refashioning of my Warhammer 7th edition minis for Erewon or Dragon Rampant. Should get some games in February at the Pit Gaming Shop.
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Third go at giant scenario from Vanguard. Orcs vs Basileans (proxied by Brettonians).
Orcs advanced and Zapgit the wizard zapped the giant but the Bretts shot him and equalised, so no points. Then the Brett’s charged into the Orcs and did vast damage and took little in return as the Basilean skill is to up armour to 3+
The orc boarboy ploughed across to what we assumed was the grunt underbelly of the Brett force, spear men and archers. But after taking some damage they rounded on him. The giant bashed one of the Lrcs and wandered off effectively beyond game play.
Orcs lost 7-4.
Not sure the orc wizard adds value...
Fun had by all.
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A large shooter unit for Dragon Rampant...
A chaos hellcannon that has sat unpainted and unused for eight years. Now hopefully to be used...
Thank heavens for army painter silver spray paint.
Bit of a video to show the weight as well:
https://youtu.be/-VQwRnUTRs4
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Well, my first game of Dragon Rampant, at the Pit Gaming Shop Borehamwood.
I played Warriors of Chaos:
6 chaos warriors (elite foot)(including leader)
4 ogres (bellicose foot)
Enormous giant (greater warbeast) + fear
Marauder horsemen (light horse; short range missiles)
Chaos hellcannon - Heavy missiles
Versus orcs:
Boar boyz (Heavy riders + fear)
Black Orcs (bellicose foot + shiny armour)
Goblin warriors (Light foot)
Wolves (lesser war beasts)
Enormous giant (greater warbeast) + fear
Resounding victory for the forces of chaos. And not sure it was due to tactical genius; both of us were trying out the rules for the first time.
The Orcs advanced the miserable gobbos to see what happened to them. The chaos light riders rode up to them and chucked spears twice; whilst the chaos chaos fired once at them. The gobbos saw discretion as the better part of valour and left the field.
The bellicose ogres advanced up the left flank and got charged by the boar boyz and the two wore each other down till they were both destroyed.
The Orc’s giant pile dived into the elite chaos warriors and trapped them in front of the remainder of the chaos forces, in a rule we found a little odd and I’ll ask for clarification later - you roll one dice if trapped and if it’s less than your courage a strength point as indicated on the dice result walks off the battlefield? Surely the difference between your courage and what you rolled walks off the field in disgust?
The Orcs’ wolves were stars of the show and piled through the remainder of the ogres and almost pursued down the hellcannon.
But due to some very poor dice rolling the black orc bellicose foot and ogre failed courage tests after combat even though they had not lost many strength points. The wolves were left on a limb and the Chaos ogre made doggie roasts out of them.
Not sure about the rules. Played easily in just over a leisurely hour - which was great. Also very easy to pick up. Lots down to extreme luck. The Orcs failed a lot of early order tests in the first round leaving them subjected to a lot of shooting. Chaos rolled really badly repeatedly for key combat tests - which happens in any game. There was little character or flavour to the game. The fantastical rule add on were very expensive for what they delivered and not really worth taking. And I enjoyed it more than Warhammer seventh edition from back in the day when I first got into fantasy. It was always long, painful and lost at the army listings stage to factions that never suffered morale like demons or undead.
I’d play again. But I’m waiting for my Warlords of Erewon Book - preordered within days of being up for preorder but apparently out of stock already?! And Saga Age of Magic. What’s happening with that?
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I’ve read through the Warlords of Erewon rules and wonder about this for a dwarf force...
Dwarf Lord
3 bodyguards (ie 1 extra)
Heavy armour
8 dwarf guard (heavy armour)
10 dwarf warriors
10 handgunners
8 Psychotic maniacs
Dwarf cannon (large)
Golem
I have the minis unassembled from old 1990s GW and Black Tree Designs.
1001
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I’ve read through the Warlords of Erewon rules and wonder about this for a dwarf force...
Dwarf Lord
3 bodyguards (ie 1 extra)
Heavy armour
8 dwarf guard (heavy armour)
10 dwarf warriors
10 handgunners
8 Psychotic maniacs
Dwarf cannon (large)
Golem
I have the minis unassembled from old 1990s GW and Black Tree Designs.
1001
Howdy,
I dont own the rules so i dont know.
How big is a force like this?
Grimm
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nice terrain! Where are the trees from?
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nice terrain! Where are the trees from?
I googled the people who used to do the GW trees in the early 2000s and they’re still around so I went a bit wild with tree ordering. I’ve got like the entire Teutoburger Wald!
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My second game of Dragon Rampant. More fun than the first.
I played basically warriors of chaos -
32 points -
32 Point Dragon Rampant list
Wizardling (light foot) (Thunderbolt; almighty prod; heal thee)
6 chaos warriors (elite foot) (including leader)
4 ogres (bellicose foot)
Enormous giant (greater warbeast)
Marauder horsemen (light horse; short range missiles) (first unit)
Marauder horsemen (light horse; short range missiles) (second unit)
Chaos hellcannon - Heavy missiles; Missile Enchanted
Played very shooty, very very shooty Orcs.
I couldn’t work out how you set up so we alternated. I placed most of my units so they were NOT opposite the shootiness but to its side.
The giant and some of the light horse advanced up towards the shootiness but hiding behind the many trees on the field. A lesser warbeast basilisk charged the light horse and did for them but then my giant countercharged from just behind the forest. He heavily bashed the basilisk. But he took a wound and had a wound already from a bit to shooting pain. He took a courage test. Rolled a double 1. And fled the table. Aaaargh. To be fair, he’d caused a little damage, taken a bit of pain. And thought blow this for a game of soldiers.
My wizardling, the bellicose ogres and elite foot marched up the flank to hit the Orc heavy infantry in the flank without the shootiness. But a unit of Orc scouts in the forest kept baiting the bellicose into the forest where all were equal and did them a bit of damage. But the scouts never lasted forever, we’re whittled down and fled. The Orc heavy infantry also took a battering. Then my elite infantry engaged the elite spellcaster leader a couple of times...and came off the worst with some bad rolling.
The Orc shootiness units managed to walk from where they had been in the wrong flank and looked menacing.
I only had a heavy shooter unit, duffed up bellicose ogres and the last model of the elite unit - my leader. So I folded.
But fun was had by all.
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Nicely painted stuff and nice to see pictures and your thoughts on different games. Any systems that help get models back on the table like this can only be a good thing.
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Thanks.
Indeed that is the key thing for me. I spent so much time and energy on these miniatures and classic fantasy was always my favourite. But Warhammer fantasy battle was never fun for me. I’d carry lots of miniatures into a GW store. Line them all up for twenty minutes. Then some 15 year old with one of the factions that ignored half the rules like demons or undead would just wipe me. Or I’d get shot off the table by dark elves. I’d get particularly annoyed when I had an army with a balance of monsters, artillery, infantry and cavalry and someone would say “interesting list”...and snigger. I guess I did play Empire (and did OK with two steam tanks coping with the local meta) and orcs and goblins. I’ve had more fun from Vanguard and Dragon Rampant than Warhammer seventh which I used to play quite a lot. Anyway. Well. Only taken me a decade to patch up this shaggoth. Found some ogre kingdoms horns instead of the dinky metal ones that came with the kit and kept breaking off! Much better.
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Recently spruced this up and rebased from my Warhammer 7th days but did something horrid.
it was very shiny from using gloss varnish back in the day. So I put some lahmian medium on it, with a little water
Mixed in.
It pooled everywhere leaving a while residue. I swear it had not been contaminated. I had to use washes to fill in all the crevices and it took ages. And the mini is darker now than it was. Doh!!!!!
I saw online “why don’t you use nail polish remover on an ear bud. Don’t do that...it wipes off about two layers of paint and you can’t get into crevices.
Anyway, this fellow is going to be a light infantry wizardling who can fly in dragon rampant. Must be a use for him in a Saga Age of Magic too. I bought Warlords of Erewon but nobody here in Borehamwood seems to want to play it. Doh again.
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I’m not convinced these show the effort I put into them. Still just big blobs of silver. But had fun with the rust effect. Really hope four is enough for a mounted hearthguard unit in Age of Magic which my FLGS in Borehamwood is kindly procuring for me over coming fortnight...and I have strong armed some regulars into playing! Nobody seemed up for Warlords of Erewon...
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I wish I could help,
We’re getting a small group of players into WoE.
We have half a dozen or so, and I’m on my second game this Wednesday.
Trouble is we’re all in Manchester.
Love your miniatures too.
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Don't do yourself down, those paint jobs look very decent. I like the armour.
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Found a good use for an citadel merchantman unpainted for a decade as a general for Saga of Magic army. Also good excuse to tart up an old giant from two decades ago.
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It is quite late but next time try earbud and an alcohol.
Standard vodka worked well when Vallejo washes pooled in white sediment on my miniatures (I avoid them since)
I guarantee nothing (depends on the wash) but it shouldn't melt your paint at least.
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I share you thoughts about Rampants.
Its very prone to luck and kina bland but I have fun each time I play it.
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It is quite late but next time try earbud and an alcohol.
Standard vodka worked well when Vallejo washes pooled in white sediment on my miniatures (I avoid them since)
I guarantee nothing (depends on the wash) but it shouldn't melt your paint at least.
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I share you thoughts about Rampants.
Its very prone to luck and kina bland but I have fun each time I play it.
All very interesting. Thank you. Would have reported back on game of Dragon Rampant at the weekend but it got pulled. But at least I prepped and spruced up some Empire.
Empire list for Dragon Rampant
Elite foot - leader base
Elite foot - greatswords
Heavy foot spears
Light foot spears
Heavy missiles - rocket cannon
Greater warbeast with flame attack (steam tank)
31 points...
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Nice looking force.
A word of warning on the tank as greater warbeast. It's not that great, in fact, pretty easy to kill if it gets charged. You might want to use a different profile for it, or give it some magic upgrade to make it harder. If you want it to be like a tank that is. :D
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Nice looking force.
A word of warning on the tank as greater warbeast. It's not that great, in fact, pretty easy to kill if it gets charged. You might want to use a different profile for it, or give it some magic upgrade to make it harder. If you want it to be like a tank that is. :D
Good call. Couldn’t think how to make it cost effectively. So just went for normal giant as greater warbeast
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A fantastic game of Dragon Rampant at the Pit Gaming Shop in Borehamwood, Hertfordshire.
A great way to get my seventh edition Warhammer Empire army onto the table in some form, or at least the painted part of it...
My army list was as follows, 32 points:
Elite foot - leader base (heal thee; befuddle thee; sod off)
Elite foot - greatswords
Light foot spears
Light foot spears
Heavy missiles - rocket cannon
Greater warbeast + ponderous
I’m not sure exactly what my opponent took, but it was a medley of extremely classic role-playing miniatures and some of the newer Oathmark plastics. A distinct goblins theme.
We played the scenario where one side has managed to grab a relic and then needs to make off with it off the opponent’s table edge, straight through/ past the enemy army.
I slightly foolishly handed the relic, a chair from one of the Mantic Games terrain crates, to my giant, i.e. a greater warbeast who’s basically a glass cannon.
I then moved forward the light spears x 2. One unit kept trying to slam into the goblin light archers three times but kept on failing, until my heavy artillery unit managed to pound them into failing a courage test and fleeing the board. The other light spears foolishly tried to chase down some light cavalry, snotlings on baby wolves. But they kept on peppering the spears until they were much reduced until, by some miracle, the evade rule was misused one too many times and the spears managed to catch up with the wolves and shove their spears right up the little snotlings behinds.
The little basilisk, a lesser warbeast, jumped the giant and caused more wounds, so he stepped back dropping the chair. The little basilisk was so pleased with himself. But he found himself surrounded. The elite foot Greatswords charged out of the rocky terrain, where they had just done for some scouts, and beat the basilisk with their two handers till it fled off the table. The greatswords picked up the chair and took three turns to walk off the table, whilst being peppered with magic and missiles which took a few hit points off them. But they were steadfast in the name of the emperor.
The giant piled into some elite foot Orcs and fought to the death, leaving my elite foot leader facing off against them.
At that point we called it. The greatswords has become unstoppable...
Will look slowly to painting up some old archers for scouts, flagellants as the wild foot (whatever they’re called) and Empire pistolliers as light horse.
Good fun.
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Great to see this thread again and a great game. Kind of weird seeing it titled as Warlords of Erehwon but seeing a lot of Dragon Rampant!
Please post another game soon.
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Sounds like a fun game, and looks fantastic! That is a beautiful force.
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yeah I like the way you can re-use older minis to make any kind of force you want very cool
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Dragon Rampant is great for getting old figures on the table.
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Dragon Rampant is great for getting old figures on the table.
I couldn't agree more.... that's what I use most of my Rackham models for... since i'm pretty sure i'm the only confrontation player for 100 miles being in east texas...
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Dragon Rampant is great for getting old figures on the table.
Also, great for justifying new purchases. "Well, I can always use it in Dragon Rampant." is a fine excuse. :)
Used to do that with Supersystem all the time. Random weird sculpt that I'm lusting after? Yeah, I can stat that for superhero gaming.
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Great game of Age of Sigmar. 2000 points a side. My old Empire miniatures played by a mate allied to the new Ossiarch forces. Versus me with Slaves to Darkness allied to the new Nighthaunts.
No real idea of what the Ossiarchs or Nighthaunts involve and they faced off mostly against each other.
So I’ll describe the Empire versus Slaves to Darkness at my end. The Empire created a bubble of spearmen, greatswords and Ossiarch spearmen protecting their wizard, steam tank, general behind with a hellstorm battery on the hill.
The general gave some amazing defensive buff to the spearmen and greatswords.
Fearing being shot to pieces, I charged my marauder horse into the Ossiarchs to get to the squishy hellstorm battery behind but lost 80% fatalities - and when my ally’s hero killed the rest of them my horse failed to kill enough of the crew to make a difference anyway.
I don’t think the Empire artillery did any damage the whole game anyway.
But one of the dumbest things I did was to charge my 5 Chaos Knights into the wall of 20 spears, buffed by the general and with loads of their own defensive buffs for exactly this kind of scenario. The knights eventually got worn down to nothing leaving 14 spears. The second dumbest thing was to charge my Chaos Lord on foot into the spears and leave him within 3 inches of 10 Greatswords, who piled in and were super hard, and killed him. Amongst the many rules I forgot was you get a Chaos spawn if that happens.
I also never noticed the best spell my Sorceror Lord should have been using to buff my forces and fired arcane bolts or placed mystic shields instead. The Chaos upgrades weren’t on the warscrolls so I forgot about those too. I foolishly summoned the Balewind Vortex as an endless spell as my Sorceror’s first spell, leaving him eventually stranded a foot behind my charged forces, though the defensive piece of scenery made him pretty tough to kill or stop casting (the wrong spells).
The third dumbest thing was to charge my giant into that new fantastic looking 300 Xerxes Ossiarch model, and letting my ally say I could wait for his more tactically important combats first. So Xerxes just murdered him without him doing any damage.
After I was mostly destroyed, the steam tank and Empire general charged my Nighthaunt ally but seemed to struggle to do damage. I remember the steam tanks hitting much harder back in the day.
Amazingly my side lost only 8-6 as my ally fared better than me. I did have pride watching my ginger giant for the Empire wade into some spectral creatures and smash them for three turns, only to be overwhelmed. He was older than half the people playing....!
I will play again; just need to work out making sure I use all my buffs and choose more carefully what combats I get pulled into. Also might use an allied hellcannon instead of allied giant.
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Fantastic figures!
Looks like lots of fun games as well
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Looks great! Good to see some nicely painted armies. I love the old marauder giant. I have one and I've only used him in a hadfull of games in the last 24 years or so. I must find more use for him in future :)
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Great looking game.
:)
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Great thread. I also have been reusing my old fantasy battle stuff to play Dragon Rampant, mainly with my son, but I have also managed to get a couple of guys interested. Nice to see older minis getting a run out.
Hoping to play Warlords of Erehwon and AOS in Jan.
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A game of Dragon Rampant where everyone seemed to have fun except me - though I enjoyed the others having fun.
We chose the scenario where there are ten gems scattered across the battlefield and you have to collect as many as possible. A three way between a goblin army (Oathmark + some very old unknown minis) with huge Mantic giant; GW Empire; and GW Slaves to Darkness.
The Empire light riders grabbed the gems on their side of the river and then pelted it over the bridge to my control area and grabbed all of mine...because I rolled fours and then a three for my first rolls of the first four turns of the game (which lasted around seven turns), and failed to get anyone even moving.
The Empire light riders did a fantastic job of grabbing stuff and evading with parting shots whenever charged by anyone - until they were picked off by shooting having gone too far into goblin territory.
There was a Mexican standoff between the Ginger Giant + light spears versus Mantic Giant + heavy infantry on the other for a bit as nobody wanted to charge first having gone shield wall. But the Mantic Giant lost his nerve after only a few wounds in combat and fled in disgust at it all.
My Chaos eventually moved a bit, and could not reach the action on the other side of the table. So decided to kill what they could find
just for giggles. My giant tried to catch the light riders but whenever he charged and took a wound from parting shots as they evaded, he failed his courage check and stayed back to nurse his wounds.
My light horse tried to ride over the bridge to storm into the hellblaster warmachine on the other side (heavy missiles) but spent two turns standing on the bridge failing to make a 7+ charge, in which time they got shot at twice and eventually panicked and fled.
My heavy horse wizardling (sorceror on flying disc) managed to make contact with some goblin scouts and make them flee but, unsupported, got whittled down in combat with some goblin light missiles.
We called it after two hours in which the Empire has five gems, the Goblins 3 and I had 1.
The Empire player, experienced generally as a gamer but his first game of Dragon Rampant said he’d had a blast. As a passionate Blood Bowl player he liked the core mechanic but noted it is unforgiving compared to BB where at least you can move without rolling dice and forfeiting the remainder of your turn if you fail.
I didn’t have a blast but also found it funny as all at the store enjoyed watching me fail to roll a five multiple times. And I used lots of bad language.
The real story here may be that I got rinsed by a first time this player of the game.
Beer and pretzels it was!
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Looks great! Good to see some nicely painted armies. I love the old marauder giant. I have one and I've only used him in a hadfull of games in the last 24 years or so. I must find more use for him in future :)
So many uses! Who doesn’t love a ginger giant?
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Hoping to play Warlords of Erehwon and AOS in Jan.
You must post how WoE goes as I am intimidated by the size of the book and how there were apparently lots of mistakes in it.
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I’ve been thinking that my Khador Warmachine army, partially painted, has been sitting in dust for a few years. I don’t have an opponent and even if I did you need like a degree in Warmachine to play. You’d need to practice a faction dozens of times to get the hang of it. I would anyway.
So, is this a viable Dragon Rampant list...?
Butcher of Khador (elite foot + wizardling: befuddle thee; stronger shields; power bolt) - 8 points
Kodiak warmachine (bellicose foot + terrifically shiny armour) - 6 points
Devastator warmachine (elite foot + missiles [for grenade launchers] - 8 points
4 men o war (reduced count unit) (elite foot + missiles [for shield cannon] - 8 points
3 widowmakers (scouts) (reduced count unit) - 2 points
32 points
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Played a 2000 point Age of Sigmar game of my Empire (now Cities of Sigmar) versus some kind of undead. Fantastic visually as mostly the miniatures were all painted.
Not much of a game though. Empire set up around half way into the field (stupidly). Undead the same (they were feeling lucky). Undead got first turn, charged and piled into the Empire before they could initiate their various anti charge buffs. The undead ground down around a third of the Empire troops; the Empire ground down around a quarter of the Undead. At the end of the first turn, most of the Undead losses returned magically somehow to their units. The Undead got initiative in the second turn, again, and charged every Empire unit they hadn’t managed to in turn one. They ground down most of the rest of the Empire. The Empire caused some damage, which mostly promptly returned to life.
There were some kind of sorcerers behind the Undead chaff crating all manner of buffs, including some kind of double save, which muted most Empire hits that got through, and the Empire could not get to the sorcerers in time before the Empire was mostly depleted. And the Undead were immune to the rend (armour penetration) of the various nasty Empire weapons.
All a bit like the Game of Thrones scene where the Dothraki and charge into the Night King’s undead hordes and get engulfed in the darkness.
This did remind me of 7th edition where you mostly lost your game at army list stage. Next time I will bring a mage on griffon to go hunt the sorcerers behind the battle line. And not be a muppet and set up too far forward; will set up at the very edge of the table.
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Looks great! Good to see some nicely painted armies. I love the old marauder giant. I have one and I've only used him in a hadfull of games in the last 24 years or so. I must find more use for him in future :)
Show us a pic...
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Fantastic looking armies & games.
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I also never noticed the best spell my Sorceror Lord should have been using to buff my forces and fired arcane bolts or placed mystic shields instead. The Chaos upgrades weren’t on the warscrolls so I forgot about those too.
TGA, one of the largest communities devoted to AoS offers downloadable cards (in PDF format) for things such as general abilities and artefacts. Maybe these could help you not forgetting them?
https://www.tga.community
https://www.tga.community/files/
I believe you need to register to be able to download the files.
I also heard of people that write down, on a sheet of paper, all the abilities they don't want to forget about, once they have composed their army/list, divided per phases in which they are relevant.
i.e. Hero Phase: General's ability 1, artefact 2, Unit A ability 3, etc.
Movement phase: Unit B special ability, Unit C special ability, etc.
And so on...
Also, if you struggle with remembering things, I would suggest to play smaller games. I find that AoS is very fun at 1000pts.
You could play a few games to get used to your models stats and abilities, then gradually increase the points limit, if you prefer bigger games.
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I also heard of people that write down, on a sheet of paper, all the abilities they don't want to forget about, once they have composed their army/list, divided per phases in which they are relevant.
i.e. Hero Phase: General's ability 1, artefact 2, Unit A ability 3, etc.
Movement phase: Unit B special ability, Unit C special ability, etc.
And so on....
This was a fantastic suggestion and improved my next games (till lockdown). Have been going through garage making old stuff useful and am pulling together twenty years worth of dwarf stuff into a Kings of War army. A titan, a legion of clan dwarfs and a horde of elite dwarfs And of course two flame cannon. Lots more to come. Will I ever get it painted. Hell no. Will be spraying them silver mostly. Apparently rules are fun.
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That's a fun looking game. :)
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My half term art project done. Not totally happy (they’re old miniatures and I messed up the white wolf pelts) but my Empire army has a heavy cavalry capability after a decade...
Knights of the White Wolf. But wolves look like flat cartoon bug bad wolf sketches.
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Had a read of Oathmark and you’d be amazed how much stuff you have lying around that won’t get used for anything else. I even had the right bases lying around from Warhammer 7th edition. The Oathmark humans I only bought for the square shields for Saga Rus. Nobody round here will probably play but some will do Dragon Rampant. Hope I’ve put the giant base the right way round
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I know I'm late but I really like your Knights of the white wolf, always good to see more empire cavalry.
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I know I'm late but I really like your Knights of the white wolf, always good to see more empire cavalry.
That’s very kind. I wasn’t sure about how I did the skin but their armoured barding looks cooler than I thought coloured.
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I keep telling myself I’ll pull my 7th edition Fantasy orcs into something useable for Erewon, Age of Magic or DR but never get round to it. Annoyingly I rebased the infantry only to have GW scrap normal orcs from AoS. But I thought I’d reglue these as would you believe superglue fails after a decade. Hopefully will get round to a slightly more modern paintjob over Xmas.
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I’ve based my Foundry berserkers for Oathmark as these are surplus to Saga requirements and I don’t thin 25mm square bases prohibit them from other games like Erewon, AoM and DR. And they size up well with the Oathmark infantry. Also that giant Zealot miniatures dwarf stone thing looks like it could be a good giant for Oathmark. Not on 50x100mm base but 75mm which squares nicely against 3 25mm bases anyway.
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The Foundry do indeed look like a good fit with the Oathmark
Hadn’t seen that Zealot model either...very interesting :)
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Continued pulling together these both Oathmark humans. They have certain old GW heads and other heads from other Northstar sets which had been sitting in the bits box and who have now finally found a purpose after some years. They go well together!
I also thought I’d assemble this Zealot Miniature‘s minotaur, who clearly is a Doombull hero. I must say all the pieces went together brilliantly, though it is a bit of a delicate model and probably a bit above my modelling school…
Oathmark Human Infantry Kitbashing with Frostgrave & GW Heads
https://youtu.be/UQUrTQiCN7E
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This all looks fantastic. The Oathmark kitbashes are especially good.
I'd love to see a close up pic of the Minotaur, that looks like a really accomplished kitbash. Great stuff. :)
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This all looks fantastic. The Oathmark kitbashes are especially good.
I'd love to see a close up pic of the Minotaur, that looks like a really accomplished kitbash. Great stuff. :)
You are so kind but I must not misrepresent myself on the minotaur. It’s just a Zealot kit, albeit a very delicate one I thought. But here’s a pic showing truly zero to hero. These GW 1985 knights have sat in my “flog it/swap it” box for 25 years and presumably someone else’s before hand. Now one is the 14 year old Black Prince in a suite of Armour worth a Lamborghini on a command base for Dragon Rampant, leading a lot of Oathmark humans and old GW elves, ogres and giants. The other is a champion knight if roughly same size as the Oathmark stuff.
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This kitbashing was super fun. I’ve had these plastic chaos marauders for about a decade. They always looked terrible. Heads too big. Weapons too big. No real details. I tried to flog them. No one wanted them. I tried to spruce them up with the newer marauder horse plastics but it didn’t do very much. The detail of those actually, particularly the faces, is a bit weak.
Then it occurred to me that they were on the right base size for both Oathmark and I thought I would see if I could spruce them up with the remaining Viking foundry shields that are too thick and Oathmark human bits and some awesomely intricately designed GW dwarf bits.
Initially, I thought it wasn’t working. Oathmark human heads are for like dummy peasant militia. Though they do look dark age Saxon a bit - linked to Scandi gods and design a bit. And then I thought hey, maybe they are some enormously tough, tall tribe akin to the ancient Germans or Scandinavians and as part of an Oathmark dwarf kingdom, they got kitted out by the dwarf King, kind of like the crazy mountain tribes get kitted out by the Lannisters in Game of Thrones. And actually, some of them work pretty well. I think for various reasons I am getting the Frostgrave knight kit which has about 20 heads and some of them will be used to replace the less plausible ones and any remaining marauder plastic heads. A few Oathmark humans per pic for scale.
And on YouTube… Chaos Marauder Kitbashing
https://youtu.be/jCtQQfu6FHY
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There are your guns sir!
I happened to have had two of this elector count miniature, and always had a plan to base one as a Saga general.
As part of my ongoing efforts to work through the lead and plastic mountain in the garage, and because my eyes are knackered from some heavy work, rather than doing any painting I have been assembling stuff that is just sitting there.
The focus has particularly been on miniatures that look like they are hopeless, as I’m increasingly realising each one you’re looking at costs between £1 and £5+ these days. But with so many cool plastic bits you can bring anything back from the dead. And now this bannerman with no hand and no right arm is waving a pistol round and pointing his elector account wildly at the enemy! I’m sure one day I will paint it…
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Nice job...he has a big hat, so he must be in charge :D
Are you going to hide the join for the horses head with a bit of putty? Could always add a bit of horse armour to discreetly conceal it?
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Nice job...he has a big hat, so he must be in charge :D
Are you going to hide the join for the horses head with a bit of putty? Could always add a bit of horse armour to discreetly conceal it?
That’s helpful feedback. I put some GW liquid green stuff in the gal but it’s dried out a bit and not sure it makes much of an difference. Will see after undercoating and use some proper green stuff if needed. Also realised the horse is for this Kislev dude in the box of old stuff and you can’t put the Kislev dude on another horse.
So I rebased the elector. Maybe base is too small but I won’t use it for anything else so good to get rid and you don’t want in taking terms too big a base.
Kislev dude looks good like looking across the steppes...
Isn’t Akula shark in Russian?
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So you can use Oathmark or Frostgrave heads for Cities of Sigmar Greatswords. Also that old Wargames Foundry knight as commander never survived undercoating. So here’s his replacement. Behind him is a pile of Marauder heads. So he will be known as Lord Choppy.
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Nice kitbash for the greatswords!
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Nice kitbash for the greatswords!
Thanks. Finished my Mantic giant! Big dude.
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Impressive giant!
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Impressive giant!
He’s one big fellah. Here’s a warlord for the converted chaos marauders...
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Spruced up these orcs for something like Saga Age of Magic. Some savage orcs, block orcs and chariots to come over coming weeks as I get through them. Seventh edition rejects. Never did very well against the kids with Dark Elves and Demons.
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He’s one big fellah. Here’s a warlord for the converted chaos marauders...
Who makes that metal model...? I love it!
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Who makes that metal model...? I love it!
Now sold by Black Tree Designs. They have great range. But just be careful. It took me over a year of emails to get the order after purchase...
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Sprucing these up for saga age of magic. Physically fixed up. Who thought the delicate piggy tails were ever going to last? Next step just the repaint…
Added some heads by Raffaele Stumpo from some blood bow Kickstarter.
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For some reason I’ve got very excited about a skeleton fantasy force. Maybe it was the first plastic boxed set I got from GW in like 1992. I got the Tomb Kings in 2008 but it was before the cool big plastic kits and so you only had the goofy plastic skeletons and metal characters who never seemed to fit together. So I flogged them but just knew to hold back the horsemen I’d assembled. But they got mashed in storage and...looked goofy. So I picked up the Start Collecting Deathrattle GW box and used bits off that to spruce up these ten which I’ll use for Saga AoM and maybe even Age of Sigmar. Also. Fun how you never realise how much you have after decades of collecting for anything. I picked up this resin skeleton dude with a ruff maybe from Spellcrow or Kromlech as a blood bowl coach. But he’ll make a great necromancer! Checked out eBay for some more of these horsemen and Tomb Kings chariots and was horrified by the prices people are asking for. Like £60 a box. Wish I’d held onto what I had. Maybe I’ll ask on the wanted Bazaar of Obscurities home page.
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those kitbashed knights look terrific. who knew that this would work so well? have to check what I have from TKs in my bitsbox.. nicely done!
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those kitbashed knights look terrific. who knew that this would work so well? have to check what I have from TKs in my bitsbox.. nicely done!
I was very pleasantly surprised. Got Oathmark skeletons in and so mashed up new GW, Oathmark and some Atlantic skeletons and I thought I’d offer a size comparison. All GW or Oathmark heads though as Atlantic heads looked massive and not entirely realistic, kind of like Indiana Jones and the crystal skull. I was listening to Michael Wood’s history of China and so imagined them as kind of an undead Terracotta Army. Was lucky to have Tomb Kings shields about but could do with some more. And might ask at the Bazaar if anyone has any Tomb Kings chariots for swapping or sale. The helmets are kind of Iron Age Europe so maybe at a push these are fantasy undead Sea People’s Egyptians...though were they from Turkey? Who knows.
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Very useful comparison pictures, thanks!
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Forgot to Mark this one up. Is the arrow in the skull puerile?
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Great looking force. Many thanks for the comparison shots as I am looking at getting a few skellies soon for a variety of gaming projects.
I would remove the arrow in the head as I think it is a little silly, but others may think otherwise. Your figures - your choice.
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Great looking force. Many thanks for the comparison shots as I am looking at getting a few skellies soon for a variety of gaming projects.
I would remove the arrow in the head as I think it is a little silly, but others may think otherwise. Your figures - your choice.
Thank you. I respect your opinion. He goes from ominous to comedy. And you have much experience in modelling as your lovely blog shows.
I finished sprucing up these orc chariots...
And an old Orc warboss on giant boar.
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I think to make this look more plausible, I need to put some kind of green stuff lining around the wings to look like I haven’t just stuck them on to the side of armour. No idea how to do that…
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Brainstormed a kind of a late Medieval Empire Sigmarite crusader list for Age of Magic, the Order Militant, as I have so many minis already. I’m thinking 6 witch hunters from the White Knight sculpts I picked up a few years ago (lovely they were - somewhere in garage - hearthguard), 3 units of warrior monks (flagellants), a couple of warrior priests, some nasty looking rabble rouser with a torch and pistol from from I think Mordheim as leader with once I get them a gruff hound on his base, maybe 12 Fireforge folk rabble if I get them (people’s crusade) but I needed some missiles capability...so I spent ages trying to pull together 12 archers from a decade old set of bits scattered everywhere from what must have been an Empire set of plastic archers and state troops. I wonder if these are unpaintable as the state troop details are not very distinct. But was a fun puzzle to pull together.
Edit: I’ve painted some and went well methinks. Did a video:
https://youtu.be/XJ1iPfzgLss
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I played with turfing these old Games Workshop goblin wolf riders. My paint job was basic, I never seemed to mind mould lines and they were too glossily glazed. Then I saw these Spellcrow heads and substituted them and green stuffed around the goofy heads. But are the wolves still too goofy? I think a reasonable graded pelt paintjob from vermin brown at the bottom mixed with grey and black to pure black at the top may make them acceptable? We’ll see. Will be ages till they get repainted and new flock. These had a great life in WFB 7th edition scooting between the battle lines, taking pot shots that occasionally took out something amazing like a high elf dragon knight but always managed to compel anything with frenzy to chase them into the path of my warboss on chariot...Hope two units of them in Age of Magic will be as much fun?
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Slow progress. Wolves panning out better than expected. Mirroring pics I found on the web.
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Done.
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looking great!
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looking great!
Thank you. Assembled some 3D printed tomb kings bone giant off eBay. Shown for scale.
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Woah getting some real Iron Maiden Powerslave vibes from that giant. Good stuff.
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Woah getting some real Iron Maiden Powerslave vibes from that giant. Good stuff.
I’ll look to the record covers for some painting inspiration when I get there. Anyway. Finished sprucing up 12 of these Black Orcs for either Saga AoM or Dragon Rampant.
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Old conversion spruced up.
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Every orc and goblin army needs a ramshackle artillery capability...
Have always tried to establish what the one playing with his undies is doing.
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nice progress and good looking results!
I wonder why nobody is commenting on your stuff, I guess on this board GW minis are just not very popular?! anyway, keep them coming!
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Every orc and goblin army needs a ramshackle artillery capability...
Have always tried to establish what the one playing with his undies is doing.
I think the butt-scratching dude is also pulling the shooting lever of the bolt-thrower. He knows how to multitask.
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Managed to get these 3D ogres printed as wizards. Duncan Shadow. Came out well.
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nice progress and good looking results!
I wonder why nobody is commenting on your stuff, I guess on this board GW minis are just not very popular?! anyway, keep them coming!
Well, thank you for your support. I’d be interested in why. Maybe need to be more creative :) I tried Relicblade. Easy to get to grips with. Nice models but didn’t want to but more fantasy miniatures and so used some Old GW and Grenadier I think. Fun Conan like battle to grab objectives in some winters temple. As usual due to bad tactics I lost. But was fun hurling magic around. But I didn’t have anything to ward off the
Horrible degrading magic of these undead wizards.
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Just reach out and touch someone… The power of kit bashing…
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I did a YouTube video of all my zombie kit bashes
https://youtu.be/8RVP5boRBdg
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Had fun kitbashing these ogors for AoS from various other ogre GW sprues.
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I did a YouTube video of my Mantic giant. I’m desperate to use him. Maybe for Dragon Rampant. He’s not on right base for Sigmar gargant - but don’t think anyone at FLGS will care.
https://youtu.be/dFSccT5WpDI
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Spruced this dude up because I played a game of Dragon Rampant and got rinsed by the other dude’s poisonous lesser warbeast…
Albeit I realised in advance if I charged his chaff and got counter charged by the spider that was going to happen. I just was having fun looking at the painted minis and rolling dice.
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Your giant is excellent. :-*
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Your giant is excellent. :-*
I quite agree. It is a great sculpt, painted very well. Makes me want one.
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Thanks for posting the Zombie Kit-bashing. I really
don't like the graves on backs. Makes them look like
a team of nightmare removal men. I would be tempted
to leave them off & use them for graveyard scenery.
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Your giant is excellent. :-*
Great praise and just to say I love all your stuff on this forum, Malamute.
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I quite agree. It is a great sculpt, painted very well. Makes me want one.
And for the price a real bargain.
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Thanks for posting the Zombie Kit-bashing. I really
don't like the graves on backs. Makes them look like
a team of nightmare removal men. I would be tempted
to leave them off & use them for graveyard scenery.
I also didn’t like them. To be fair, I think only a 2-4 of the 20 have it and I think you can green stuff over the gap in the back and not include.
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I just went All your topic
Wow that's an impressive collection and you've got great painting skills.
Can't wait to see the Bone Giant painted!
Congats
JuJu
Kaleb Daark
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I think you can green stuff over the gap in the back and not include.
I was thinking of making the hole round & leaving the
daylight to show through. :D
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Lots of really nice figures in here, and it's a treat to see your older WHFB minis get rebased, repainted, and back onto the table. :)
In your more recent stuff, the undead are looking particularly good, and I hope we see more of them as you paint them up!
If you're after some cheap-ish plastic chariots that would work well with the skellies, you can get some Victrix Celtic chariots (in hard sprue plastic) which are very nice and would work really well. You'd need to get some skeleton horses to pull them, and some skeleton crew to ride them, but you can then re-purpose the original crew and horses they come with for your other armies (NB: the crew in particular are very nice and would make good hero/wizard characters). The sprues usually go for about £8-10 each on ebay, which is reasonable.
As for more Tomb Kings shields, you could try press-moulding some using Oymaru and some putty of your choice? My experience in doing this is that shields come out rather well (especially as nobody sees the back), and it's far easier and cheaper than fishing on ebay for them.
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Lots of really nice figures in here, and it's a treat to see your older WHFB minis get rebased, repainted, and back onto the table. :)
In your more recent stuff, the undead are looking particularly good, and I hope we see more of them as you paint them up!
If you're after some cheap-ish plastic chariots that would work well with the skellies, you can get some Victrix Celtic chariots (in hard sprue plastic) which are very nice and would work really well. You'd need to get some skeleton horses to pull them, and some skeleton crew to ride them, but you can then re-purpose the original crew and horses they come with for your other armies (NB: the crew in particular are very nice and would make good hero/wizard characters). The sprues usually go for about £8-10 each on ebay, which is reasonable.
As for more Tomb Kings shields, you could try press-moulding some using Oymaru and some putty of your choice? My experience in doing this is that shields come out rather well (especially as nobody sees the back), and it's far easier and cheaper than fishing on ebay for them.
For the shields there are also some of the historical egyptians as a source (and for some weapons and such). I think Warlord has a plastic egyptians set. I believe that's where a friend of mine had gotten the troops for his OGAM force
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Lots of really nice figures in here, and it's a treat to see your older WHFB minis get rebased, repainted, and back onto the table. :)
In your more recent stuff, the undead are looking particularly good, and I hope we see more of them as you paint them up!
If you're after some cheap-ish plastic chariots that would work well with the skellies, you can get some Victrix Celtic chariots (in hard sprue plastic) which are very nice and would work really well. You'd need to get some skeleton horses to pull them, and some skeleton crew to ride them, but you can then re-purpose the original crew and horses they come with for your other armies (NB: the crew in particular are very nice and would make good hero/wizard characters). The sprues usually go for about £8-10 each on ebay, which is reasonable.
As for more Tomb Kings shields, you could try press-moulding some using Oymaru and some putty of your choice? My experience in doing this is that shields come out rather well (especially as nobody sees the back), and it's far easier and cheaper than fishing on ebay for them.
Thank you for these very helpful thoughts.
I have 6 GW tomb kings chariots now, so all good there but the crews look awful. I’ll show what I have at some point. The Victrix chariots are amazing and look how Scruffy Crow rejigged one for Oathmark…
https://youtu.be/FUCQsCRiRxc
On Tomb Kings shields, a LAFer sold me about thirty for a fiver all in. That’s community as they’d go for more on eBay. I’ll do more spearmen with them. Have a game of KoW in a couple of weeks I’ll be using them for.
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For the shields there are also some of the historical egyptians as a source (and for some weapons and such). I think Warlord has a plastic egyptians set. I believe that's where a friend of mine had gotten the troops for his OGAM force
Is that right? I’ve always wanted a Kadesh Egyptian force but it’s prohibitive. Wouldn’t it be amazing if they got the Victrix treatment!
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I was thinking of making the hole round & leaving the
daylight to show through. :D
You must watch the walking dead. I’m sure as the various series have gone on they start doing increasingly odd and creative shots with the zombies. Like
Shooting an image of one of the protagonists through a gunshot wound in a zombie…great stuff!
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I just went All your topic
Wow that's an impressive collection and you've got great painting skills.
Can't wait to see the Bone Giant painted!
Congats
JuJu
Kaleb Daark
Thanks so much. One day I’ll do it. I suspect will involve a lot
of drybrushing. I’m getting closer though as I’ve painted my first 3D prints!
https://youtu.be/2kkSsKMYcpg
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Yeah, the Scruffy Crow Oathmark videos are all very good and extremely helpful for anyone starting out in the game. :)
I also happened to see yesterday that TT Combat have a new range of "Mummy" themed models which look like they'd provide suitable options for catapults, elite units, and even Ushabti. I expect a chariot may follow soon!
Obviously not ideal if you're trying to pare down the to-do list, but they might be useful for filling in some gaps in the army if you fancy them. ;)
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Yeah, the Scruffy Crow Oathmark videos are all very good and extremely helpful for anyone starting out in the game. :)
I also happened to see yesterday that TT Combat have a new range of "Mummy" themed models which look like they'd provide suitable options for catapults, elite units, and even Ushabti. I expect a chariot may follow soon!
Obviously not ideal if you're trying to pare down the to-do list, but they might be useful for filling in some gaps in the army if you fancy them. ;)
Who doesn’t need more
Miniatures :)
I’m not sure of the quality of those from the paint jobs but the catapult would fill a gap…
Thanks for pointing out.
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Painted up these nice Elven Gates Ruins from Scibor. On sale from Wayland. Assume because 3D printing is killing resin terrain :)
https://youtu.be/OnVSBwv3Eew
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And rebased this Avatars of War chaos hound thing.
Avatars of War Cerberus/Netherhound
https://youtu.be/7bAXDD7GLs4
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Had a nice couple of games of Relicblade. Five pigs, kind of like orcs, against a couple of big guys (a stone golem and treeman) supported by some chemical flinging dwarf, an elf wizard and some ranged fox rider. Scenario was to touch a terrain stone every turn to get the most points whilst evading and interrupting the opponent. I thought if I ganged up on the big guys, piling in the piggies with all their combat synergies between them, and took them out I could then turn to the squishier unprotected goodness of my opponent’s support team - and then stand by the stones and pick up points. Rather than being outrun on the objective side. The piggies had fun names like berserker pig and battle
pig. Pig warlord became boss pig, and sometimes Stalin.
I took out one of the big guys but the other was just too nails and always seemed to get buffed up back from the floor by his back up team to ultimately take out all my piggies!
I can’t say I took it well. There was lots of swearing in front of the remainder of the FLGS along the lines of “get up you stupid pig and get back in there …or you’ll be sizzling in the morning”.
It never helped. I lost.
In terms of constructive feedback my opponent wrote after “ That was fun.
What you did wrong was fail to dodge three pigs making one attack and dodging every turn would have blunted my guys attacks and chipped them to death.”
Basically you get a number of actions. I always used all of them to attack. If I’d held back one action each time, a dodge, it allows you to roll an extra defence dice making you more likely to survive.
Doh.
Next time, the piggies will get you…!
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Ages back I used to play Malifaux (1E and 2E) which was quite fun, and also I have (but never played) Relics which I got as another whimsical tactical skirmish game. I thought Relicblade was perhaps related to Relics, but on investigation it looks like a different game. Anyway, it looks like you had a good game (tactics notwithstanding! ;) ) and all the figures in your game look very nice.
As it's been a while since I looked through your thread here, I had another poke through, and there's lots of really nicely painted figures in here... Did any of these get advanced enough to make a little force from? :)
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Ages back I used to play Malifaux (1E and 2E) which was quite fun, and also I have (but never played) Relics which I got as another whimsical tactical skirmish game. I thought Relicblade was perhaps related to Relics, but on investigation it looks like a different game. Anyway, it looks like you had a good game (tactics notwithstanding! ;) ) and all the figures in your game look very nice.
As it's been a while since I looked through your thread here, I had another poke through, and there's lots of really nicely painted figures in here... Did any of these get advanced enough to make a little force from? :)
You must tell me about “Relic”. Don’t remember it. I had some fun games of Malifaux 1E but each took like five hours and were too intense for me. Relicblade is much more fun.
I had fun with these on Saturday. Kromlech gnaws. See pic and vid.
Re your probing question, which goes to the heart of what the after school teacher at model airplane club told me at the age of 10 (“you are too much of a gross hopper bouncing between scales and projects”) yes there are some themes to these random postings and there are some viable forces. Basically I had one third painted orc and goblin, empire and chaos warrior forces for Warhammer 7th edition. Now these “thirds” are largely spruced up and each a viable force for Dragon Rampant and Saga which I have been playing. I’m slowly working up the remainder of those forces focusing on the fun models and not the rank and file. I’ve also got a vast swathe of old school dwarfs of various manufacturers all heavy metal. I foolishly undercoated them silver (bar the handgunners and berserkers) and worry I have ruined them but will at some point focus on enough for say Mantic Vanguard and use them unpainted for KoW as all square based. I have also after watching walking dead picked up loads of undead which I have used for KoW. Also I corralled the rest of my random proper 28mm ancients and fantasy into a force for Oathmark which nobody locally is fussed about playing. But I live in hope. I also picked up and assembled 2000 point armies of ogor Mawtribes and Stormcasts eternals for AoS and played a few games between various lockdowns. Oh the horror. All the best.
Painting Kromlech gnaws as alternative giant squigs for Deadzone or Age of Sigmar or Reign in Hell?
https://youtu.be/kl9g_5Se83g
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You must tell me about “Relic”. Don’t remember it.
I have a big old force of Vaettir, and my friend got a good size force of Ridend to pit them against; sadly, we moved away from the project as at the time getting the models was taking aaaages, and then the company folded. Gamewise, if you're familiar with Warmachine and Malifaux in terms of rules-writing and gameplay style, this will no doubt feel familiar. It's pretty quick to play, though I don't recall the scenarios being super-exciting.
It looks like TT Combat bought it since, and they have it up on their site now (link (https://ttcombat.com/collections/relics)). The rules and such are available as a free download, but it looks like most of the models have sold out since I last looked some two weeks ago - I'm sure they'll be back in stock again however.
I had some fun games of Malifaux 1E but each took like five hours and were too intense for me.
Yeah, and it depended on which crews were involved too; some were unbeatable, and some the opposite. The last edition I played was 2E, and I thought it was generally quite an improvement in terms of faffage, stress and overall balance (although as a mainly Perdita crew player, I missed all her tricks from 1E). I've yet to play 3E, but my friend advised me it was a notable improvement (and fewer unit cards) over 2E again, so I may have to look into it at some point. From 2E at least, the game is more about the scenario, and less about killing all the enemy models, and there are other non-combat ways to score points in any game too.
I had one third painted orc and goblin, empire and chaos warrior forces for Warhammer 7th edition. Now these “thirds” are largely spruced up and each a viable force for Dragon Rampant and Saga which I have been playing. I’m slowly working up the remainder of those forces focusing on the fun models and not the rank and file. I’ve also got a vast swathe of old school dwarfs of various manufacturers all heavy metal. I foolishly undercoated them silver (bar the handgunners and berserkers) and worry I have ruined them but will at some point focus on enough for say Mantic Vanguard and use them unpainted for KoW as all square based. I have also after watching walking dead picked up loads of undead which I have used for KoW.
How come spraying the dwarves silver was an error? Aren't the short bearded ones at least 40% armour anyway? :P You can still strip them by putting them in a clean jam jar with acetone in it, and a lid screwed on - after a week, everything (including glue, putty, any plastic, etc) will just slough off the models. If acetone is too scary/smelly for you, try Biostrip 20 (I think Wilko do their own cheaper version too) in a plastic takeaway tub with a lid - after a few days, the result is very similar to the acetone, but it's safe to use on hard styrene plastics too.
Also I corralled the rest of my random proper 28mm ancients and fantasy into a force for Oathmark which nobody locally is fussed about playing. But I live in hope.
Nice! You'll have to show them off when they're done. :) I think people may give it a go if have two forces to begin with and can rope/cajole somebody into trying it with you. Depending on how much you already have in 28mm, you could try doing it in 10/15mm scale instead; it could make it rather cheaper and easier to purchase/paint/transport - for 15mm just halve all ranges, and for 10mm just use centimetres instead of inches. ;)
I also picked up and assembled 2000 point armies of ogor Mawtribes and Stormcasts eternals for AoS and played a few games between various lockdowns. Oh the horror. All the best.
Cool! How did you like the game? :)
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@gilbear thanks for the background on Relic. Looks that one might have died down. As frankly I think have Warmachine and Malifaux. I do have the 3rd edition rulebook and may try persuade someone to have a game after what you say. But my games schedule for the next couple of months involves various board games, kind of thing you see on Shut Up And Sit Down, Mantic Deadzone and Dracula’s America. On your query re my Oathmark stuff the reality must be that will not be painted for decades. And it’s more likely to see games of Dragon Rampant. I am increasingly minded to have a go at my many old and new school dwarfs for KoW as they look fantastic each to paint. The games of AoS were very fiddly and I had a crib sheet which helped. I absolutely piled into my opponents and demolished them in each game, even when I lessened the number of beasties in the second game. Fantastic, as I usually lose games due to tactical incompetence. So great to rely on “cheese”. For no particular reason other than it was raining and I didn’t want to get stuff out the garage I painted these mangler squigs staring at me on my desk:
Painting mangler squigs - old and new mixed up for Gloomspite Gitz and Games Workshop Age of Sigmar
https://youtu.be/K3gr1Zhu3Nk
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Very impressive looking squigs, well done! :-*
I think the reality with many games is that very few are "big" enough for pickup games to be fairly easy. For all the others, you do need to have two armies (one to loan), and to persuade others to give it a go with you. It's just how things are/have been for a very long time unfortunately, and why Games Workshop games will always continue to be widely played even by people who don't enjoy them all that much.
As for Malifaux and Warmachine specifically, both of their current rulesets are available for free download along with all the cards, from their respective websites. If you have the models already, they should be easy enough to try out. :)
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On a side note, I played a bit of M1E and M2E. I feel that the game peaked when the second M2E book was released, getting all of the old models up to the new rules.
The core rules of M3E are more streamlined and tighter than ever. The game plays faster and smoother for the most part. That's the good news.
The bad news is that any semblance of balance is effectively gone. If you include alternate story Masters, there are 109 options now!
Granted, this is only a major issue for pick-up games or <shudder> tournament play, but it's good to keep in mind.
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Read Sean Sutter’s Sludge rules the other day and reckon this is a great way to exhaust my random bits of plastic Oathmark and GW Empire and Warlord WW2 Brits bitz left over plus finally something to do with my Warmachine bits. First test model…
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In response to BALM’s following comment: “I do love a good kitbash (your test chap looks great) and whilst I’m generally trying to focus on smaller scales with my current/future projects the artistic potential and range of suitable 28mm plastic kits now available mean getting your own ideas and imagination to the tabletop has never been easier.
I look forward to seeing your progress. How big is a sludge force generally?”
There is quite a lot of free info on Sludge here including army sizes: https://relicblade.com/sludge
And these pics from the page show what seems to be a standard army (albeit remember the line infantry are three to a base).
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Thank you Sir S that image is very informative (and a good idea to help newcomers visualise what is needed), not very many chaps really. I had looked at sludge and like the idea/setting. If I was still able to go to my local club I could see me being tempted as I love hacking up plastic models and creating new things. Hmm maybe I could dabble in a smaller scale………… no, no just live vicariously through others, I can’t start on another tangent lol.
Andrew
BALM
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great stuff in this thread.
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Thank you Sir S that image is very informative (and a good idea to help newcomers visualise what is needed), not very many chaps really. I had looked at sludge and like the idea/setting. If I was still able to go to my local club I could see me being tempted as I love hacking up plastic models and creating new things. Hmm maybe I could dabble in a smaller scale………… no, no just live vicariously through others, I can’t start on another tangent lol.
Andrew
BALM
Thanks for your lovely message Andrew. We all get as much joy from following the modelling exploits of others as our own. I’ve kept going with these Sludge efforts as I’ve realised I could make some use of my Khador Warmachine stuff, or at least some of it. My eyes were too knackered to paint this week so I had fun kitbashing with bits from the garage with no other purpose. Wonder if the last one is a bit silly. But that ogre never looked proper blood bowl and he’ll never be used for that purpose.
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With thanks to BeneathaLeadMountain for his halberd ends and pennants check these out…
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Those Tam O'shanters are brilliant!
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Love those, the tam o shanters are indeed great. I started on Sludge last summer, and have managed a couple of games so fat. It is a really fun system, bit different to what I am used to.
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Looking great Sir S. I like composition, especially the little buckler like shields (are they GW skaven? or have I just been indoctrinated into seeing any triangular shields that way after 30+ yrs lol) and like The Grumpy Gnome think the Tam’o’shanters are charming and add real character. Looking forwards to seeing them come together, get painted and take to the table.
BeneathALeadMountain
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Those Tam O'shanters are brilliant!
Thanks so much. I looked up Tam O’ Shanter and hadn’t realised it was a Burns poem. Thanks for responding my cultural horizons!
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Love those, the tam o shanters are indeed great. I started on Sludge last summer, and have managed a couple of games so fat. It is a really fun system, bit different to what I am used to.
What are you used to? The system looks fun. The only thing I’ve done is not multi base miniatures because I don’t know if it will be an issue with other systems and it will be impossible to paint three miniatures on a 50mm base, as I tend to assemble and undercoat and then play some games and if I get into it over the years then go back to paint them.
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Looking great Sir S. I like composition, especially the little buckler like shields (are they GW skaven? or have I just been indoctrinated into seeing any triangular shields that way after 30+ yrs lol) and like The Grumpy Gnome think the Tam’o’shanters are charming and add real character. Looking forwards to seeing them come together, get painted and take to the table.
BeneathALeadMountain
So the triangular shields, as you say, are Skaven but my thinking was if I used round shields they would look too mediaeval and they are aimed to tie in, I hope, with my proposed theme of having Khador officers from Warmachine and the symbol broadly looks like a Skaven one and represents not Khador but the symbol of a mad fantasy White Flame/Red God type of religion/cult and shields’ shapes harken back to that. Just realised the Tommy banner is misaligned and actually I’ll use your other Fireforge penant.
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What are you used to? The system looks fun. The only thing I’ve done is not multi base miniatures because I don’t know if it will be an issue with other systems and it will be impossible to paint three miniatures on a 50mm base, as I tend to assemble and undercoat and then play some games and if I get into it over the years then go back to paint them.
Partly the multibasing, but especially the gore and stress is different to games like SAGA where there is very little battlefield psychology.
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I think the triangular bucklers fit very well and would/could be quite effective (and they fit the khadorian motif), I’ve done some sparring with sword and bucklers and they are very nasty in the right hands. The larger banner I sent to you is from the Dark Elf Cold One Knights sprue (in case you want to find another) as it had similar angular motifs to the shields.
Do you have any deals regarding colour scheme yet or will the sludge cover most of the poor souls?
BeneathALeadMountain
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Been very busy and generally shattered. So tried a limited fun exercise of getting these two goblin chariots pulled together and ready to game…if not much closer to getting painted. One for the future :)
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I think the triangular bucklers fit very well and would/could be quite effective (and they fit the khadorian motif), I’ve done some sparring with sword and bucklers and they are very nasty in the right hands. The larger banner I sent to you is from the Dark Elf Cold One Knights sprue (in case you want to find another) as it had similar angular motifs to the shields.
Do you have any deals regarding colour scheme yet or will the sludge cover most of the poor souls?
BeneathALeadMountain
Your bits very much helped to make these a fun Easter project. And I’m glad you see see them as plausible background wise. I’m thinking just using the Army Painter British uniform spray can inhale largely full before it goes messed up and doesn’t spray properly. Which seems to happen to them after a few months. I did this YouTube Heidi of how far I’ve got…
Kitbashing for Sludge from Frostgrave Barbarians & Knights and Warmachine
https://youtu.be/wqsDbkzEQuA
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Had a good demo game at FLG store of Armada. Really fun. Took a long time to take pieces out of enemy ships but I think there are scenarios better than kill each other well do next time. Used store demo miniatures.
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And I forgot to post pics from a Kings of War game a few months back. Kingdom of Dust vs some Kingdom of Nature types. I won. But we were really trying out rules and having fun outflanking each other. Which I did more and thus won. But those skeletons couldn’t wear down that rock beast.
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great looking games, both.
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great looking games, both.
Thank you. They were. This weekend’s paint job. Not sure about it. Had issues with the consistency of the green and now it looks like he has a skin condition…
His role in life will be to ride a chariot. That’s next weekend’s job.
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The two chariots done.
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An excellent band of raiders, very nice. I love the idea of chariots rattling along with wolf riders streaming around them.
I think Goblin Wolf Riders might just be my favourite fantasy unit. I had a few (12) when little but always wanted a sweeping band - probably inspired by the Wolf Riders Gw book art, felix and gotrek story and early WHFB/WHFRPG artwork. Whilst I don’t have such a force in 28mm I do have a huge number in 10mm (Warmaster sculpts which are great) individually based to play 3rd.Ed. WHFB in half scale and see them as very frightening and viable threat to isolated homesteaders and small towns.
Andrew
Balm
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An excellent band of raiders, very nice. I love the idea of chariots rattling along with wolf riders streaming around them.
I think Goblin Wolf Riders might just be my favourite fantasy unit. I had a few (12) when little but always wanted a sweeping band - probably inspired by the Wolf Riders Gw book art, felix and gotrek story and early WHFB/WHFRPG artwork. Whilst I don’t have such a force in 28mm I do have a huge number in 10mm (Warmaster sculpts which are great) individually based to play 3rd.Ed. WHFB in half scale and see them as very frightening and viable threat to isolated homesteaders and small towns.
Andrew
Balm
Hey Andrew
Always love your insights and experience. I can’t do with 10 or even 15mm. You get breadth and scale. Like your own Lord of the rings battle scene. But I’m too old for such fiddliness. I’m also taken with the vision of hordes of ululating wolf riders swarming about a lonesome bunch of isolated dwarven traders stuck on the steppes of some fantasy land. Which is what this is all about. See this video I did of…the Horde :)
Goblin wolf chariots by GW & Knightmare Miniatures Painted
https://youtu.be/7Lnv1Rgh7Bs
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These are gorgeous and so cute. But took ages to paint. Not time. Just squeezing in between real life! Each one seems to have a lot of kit. Largely nicked I suspect. My agnostic gobbo army needs an infantry unit. Though all rules treat them as useless seem better armed and armoured than any thegn in Saga for example.
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And who doesn’t need more goblin chariots…
Light Goblin Chariot Kitbashing for Warhammer Fantasy or Dragon Rampant
https://youtu.be/DJrWZk6Hmw8
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A video of the Heartbreaker Kev Adams goblins I painted. And have yet to paint.
https://youtu.be/9pSoec0Aoz8
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Brilliant stuff sir! I’m a massive P.Bonner fan and a general lover of goblins. Those goblins are beautiful (maybe not the right word) and you’ve done an excellent job of bringing them to life. Thank you for posting.
Stay safe,
Andrew
BALM
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Brilliant stuff sir! I’m a massive P.Bonner fan and a general lover of goblins. Those goblins are beautiful (maybe not the right word) and you’ve done an excellent job of bringing them to life. Thank you for posting.
Stay safe,
Andrew
BALM
Thanks Andrew. And I was thinking of you but the other day as I think one of the flags you kindly sent me will be finding a role in life very soon…
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Thought worth posting this pic. Knightmare Miniatures vs old Harlequin orcs.
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Some speedy painting of Oldhammer Skarsnik.
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Nice job there! The old grinning goblins are cool figures and I like what you did with this one.
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Nice work. :)
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Nice job there! The old grinning goblins are cool figures and I like what you did with this one.
Most kind. I did more!
And random pic of big squig collection.
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Nice work. :)
Great praise from someone of your calibre!
I did a video of the other night gobbos.
Kev Adams night goblins for Mordheim by Games Workshop and Harlequin Miniatures
https://youtu.be/aGa5fj42Cdw
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The night goblins are awesome! One of my regular opponents has quite a few in his collection (mostly the basic plastics rather than the Mordheim figures) and it is always fun play against that army. The goblins always look like they have some dirty tricks up their sleeves.
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The night goblins are awesome! One of my regular opponents has quite a few in his collection (mostly the basic plastics rather than the Mordheim figures) and it is always fun play against that army. The goblins always look like they have some dirty tricks up their sleeves.
All about the dirty tricks. Is this AoS or proper Warhammer of some variety?
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All about the dirty tricks. Is this AoS or proper Warhammer of some variety?
:D lol
Yes, true! Half of the game was guessing what your opponent had up his sleeve and counter it with some dastardly combination of magic items, special abilities and Waagh magic!
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:D lol
Yes, true! Half of the game was guessing what your opponent had up his sleeve and counter it with some dastardly combination of magic items, special abilities and Waagh magic!
I bought like a dozen goblin fanatics and painted them up, the maximum that could be hidden in my units. I left them by the side of the table for psychological factor. There was so much pause before deciding to charge my goblin spear units it was a joy to watch… till they demons/undead/dark elves/anyone demolished me. Anyway. Had fun making up some beasts of chaos. Especially this Tuskgor Chariot. Keeping an eye out on the Bazaar of Obscurities for any plastic beastmen to bulk these out.
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That warthog chariot is excellent sir! I do like the magic bull miniature as well, shows Gw can still sculpt clean miniatures once in a while!
Andrew
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That warthog chariot is excellent sir! I do like the magic bull miniature as well, shows Gw can still sculpt clean miniatures once in a while!
Andrew
I had so much fun with the Tuskgor chariot. You can see more here. Not close in the painting queue as have only been building up Beasts of Chaos through swaps on Bazaar of Obscurities etc. Slow burn project.
Upcycled Tuskgor Chariot/Shaggoth/Doombull and other Beasts of Chaos
https://youtu.be/zx1Yde60zKE
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Been a while since I was last in your thread, but I just wanted to stop by and compliment you on the Night Goblins, and especially on the Beastmen chariot (which looks like it should always have done!). :)
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Been a while since I was last in your thread, but I just wanted to stop by and compliment you on the Night Goblins, and especially on the Beastmen chariot (which looks like it should always have done!). :)
Thanks a lot. I always value your insights. I wonder if the new Beasts of Chaos book will make this faction a bit more playable and interesting.
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Well, I used the old Orc plastic chariot, and then robbed some replacement boars from a set of the Savage Orc riders. The SO boars need a bit of fur sculpting on (which you can press-mould from elsewhere on the model to keep the same texture as the rest of the figure), but the lack of saddles on them is helpful. The do look a bit more savage and mutated than actual boars too, so they work well for this role.
...All that said, I still I prefer yours! lol
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Well, I used the old Orc plastic chariot, and then robbed some replacement boars from a set of the Savage Orc riders. The SO boars need a bit of fur sculpting on (which you can press-mould from elsewhere on the model to keep the same texture as the rest of the figure), but the lack of saddles on them is helpful. The do look a bit more savage and mutated than actual boars too, so they work well for this role.
...All that said, I still I prefer yours! lol
Thanks. I need to work out press moulding. Do you have pics of your efforts. Would be interested.
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I'm sorry, but nearly all my WHFB stuff is currently packed away in the loft... I've only got some 4th/5th era DE, HE, Skaven, and Chaos Warriors to hand at the moment, and even they are languishing in neglect at the moment! :?
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I'm sorry, but nearly all my WHFB stuff is currently packed away in the loft... I've only got some 4th/5th era DE, HE, Skaven, and Chaos Warriors to hand at the moment, and even they are languishing in neglect at the moment! :?
Shock horror. What good are the minis in the loft?! Means almost no chance of play…
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Shock horror. What good are the minis in the loft?! Means almost no chance of play…
WHFB battle is generally low chance of play, full stop... Hence all the armies moved up there until I have space/enthusiasm for them again (which I will, I'm sure).
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WHFB battle is generally low chance of play, full stop... Hence all the armies moved up there until I have space/enthusiasm for them again (which I will, I'm sure).
I saw you picked up some lovely old metal space marines. So Xenos Rampant? Anyway. Fished this fellow out of the garage…need to think of a use.
Aly Morrison Marauder Ogre Oldhammer painted
https://youtu.be/e-_2QYOrAVA
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The Landsknecht ogre! One of my favorites of the golden age!
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The Landsknecht ogre! One of my favorites of the golden age!
Wish I had the ogre Captain!
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Wish I had the ogre Captain!
If it's the one I'm thinking of, I've just seen that figure on ebay for £56!
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If it's the one I'm thinking of, I've just seen that figure on ebay for £56!
We’ll have to lobby one of the STL designers to do a modern take. I don’t understand eBay prices. I don’t think anyone pays them. I think it’s to elicit offers almost there, like maybe someone would pay £25 for it?
Anyway. Not done much Fantasy stuff recently. Have a whole day free and so started these. But have some virus and think might spend the day watching Orange is the New Black instead…
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They're nice figures.
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They're nice figures.
Most kind. I even painted them.
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Nice figures.
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Nice figures.
Thanks! Fun with the Crooked Dice giant…
Crooked Dice Giant for Warhammer, Oldhammer and Kings of War
https://youtu.be/EoRnHxH3Ogo
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Bought this ogre from Rivers with metal bitz cut off, so replaced with plastic. Fit with my Trish Morrison ogres fine.
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Excellent save of a miniature to give it a second (maybe fifth looking at it) life! Fits nicely into the unit. I love a good ogre and whilst I’ve made some reasonable versions from the new GW kit I much prefer the landsknecht look from when I was little (I believe I have the Ogre Cpt. which you speak of - a favourite of mine; as he commanded his fearsome force of dwarves, halflings and pygmies to many a victory).
Balm
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The Ogre reminds me of the captain from The Last Valley 1970
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6900000/The-Last-Valley-Screencap-michael-caine-6991806-550-330.jpg)
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Excellent save of a miniature to give it a second (maybe fifth looking at it) life! Fits nicely into the unit. I love a good ogre and whilst I’ve made some reasonable versions from the new GW kit I much prefer the landsknecht look from when I was little (I believe I have the Ogre Cpt. which you speak of - a favourite of mine; as he commanded his fearsome force of dwarves, halflings and pygmies to many a victory).
Balm
You must post a picture of that or let me know where to find it. For fun here is the video of me trying to restore this miniature. As you say, he probably has had a long and varied life. Sounds like you’ve been into miniature agnostic rules for a long time with that kind of varied force.
https://youtu.be/dx3O371Htz0
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The Ogre reminds me of the captain from The Last Valley 1970
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6900000/The-Last-Valley-Screencap-michael-caine-6991806-550-330.jpg)
Never even heard of this film. Will see what’s on YouTube one day.
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Some 3D printed minotaurs and another converted bestigor chariot. All good fun. Getting into Age of Sigmar but yet to win a game…
https://youtu.be/VEObHBBTd0g
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I really like that chariot, can't wait to see it painted
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The chariots are excellent - I especially like the warthogs and the overly confident chap surfing on the frame. I’m a big fan of minotaurs and have recently bought a lovely 3D printed 10mm unit that will be fighting for good, evil and anyone else depending on my mood (I’ve never fully agreed with the GW “beastmen are all evil” viewpoint).
Keep up the great work,
Andrew
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The chariots are excellent - I especially like the warthogs and the overly confident chap surfing on the frame. I’m a big fan of minotaurs and have recently bought a lovely 3D printed 10mm unit that will be fighting for good, evil and anyone else depending on my mood (I’ve never fully agreed with the GW “beastmen are all evil” viewpoint).
Keep up the great work,
Andrew
I’m not really open to anything underneath 20 mm. Too old. I certainly feel that minotaurs have got a bad rap under Games Workshop! I haven’t managed to paint any Minotaurs, but I have spruced up these three trolls…
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I like these trolls... and the whole topic I've just discovered!!! So many Orcs, so many figures... great collection!
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I like these trolls... and the whole topic I've just discovered!!! So many Orcs, so many figures... great collection!
Thanks. I swear I’ll paint the unpainted bits. Like these Alcatani Fellowship. One day…
At least my Oldhammer dwarfs got a game of KoW last week. We won 🤪