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Title: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 04, 2018, 06:14:52 AM
I'm looking for ideas for a miniature that would suit the Black Knight I'm happy for it to be quite fantasy as I want to use it in SS&SS. It does need to have a mounted and infantry version. Preferrably looking for something with an armoured horse.

My first thoughts were Black Tree Design but I'm not overly fond of the style.

Any ideas?

Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Diablo Jon on June 04, 2018, 06:40:48 AM
Alternative armies "Winter knight" might work (very much at the fantasy end of the spectrum) comes as a mounted and unmounted version

https://www.alternative-armies.com/products/fl10-the-winter-knight

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8Tq4_NURmBY/WCYJ2-Ls0yI/AAAAAAABHAI/gXHwKfAjzy4xdbx7aSycsSFqbQM8LkW8ACLcB/s1600/fl10_composite_600dpi.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 05, 2018, 04:16:16 AM
Thanks. Best option so far ;)
I like it and might add it to my list of wants from alternative armies. :)

Any other ideas anyone?
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 05, 2018, 05:05:44 AM
I would naturally point at any classic Citadel Chaos Knight - especially if you can find one of the pairs.  Otherwise, maybe Bronze Age?  They have a great Death Dealer mini.

http://bronzeagemin.com/death-dealer-10/

(http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-yneoa/products/281/images/1359/Death_Dealer_1__40830.1464472022.500.659.jpg?c=2)

Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Diablo Jon on June 05, 2018, 06:42:18 AM
Thanks. Best option so far ;)
I like it and might add it to my list of wants from alternative armies. :)

Any other ideas anyone?


I think the need for a mounted and dismounted version does cut the options down a bit Crusader do a couple of mounted and dis-mounted versions of miniatures in their feudal range just plain old historical knights though


(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/img871.jpg)


like Swinegrab said the very old citadel C33 range had some great mounted and dismounted characters this one in particular would make a great black knight


(http://www.solegends.com/citc/c033advpack/cj85f29c33advpacksx-02.jpg)


but the last one I saw on ebay was pushing £80......

Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: westwaller on June 05, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
You could use one from a sprue of the Fireforge Teutonic mounted Knights and a dismounted one from a sprue of their footknights as they have the same helmet options iirc.

Curteys/first Corps do mounted and unmounted knight packs, which might be the cheapest option but might require conversion or just a suitable paint job.

The other option would be to scour eBay or put a wanted post on this forum for an old mounted and dismounted warhammer fantasy chaos knight?
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 05, 2018, 09:01:21 AM
I thought about fireforge. Good idea.
I think your last idea is the one I'll go with though. I just looked on the mirlitob site and found a perfect candidate in the undead range. Well perfect for me I think. Thanks for the help. Some other nice minis there that I now also want :)
(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/UD040.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on June 05, 2018, 09:38:57 AM
How about this?

https://www.retroist.com/2011/09/28/warhammer-holy-grail-miniatures/









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Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 05, 2018, 09:46:25 AM
Lol. I think I remember seeing that here some time ago. I'd need a coconut wielding sidekick for the mount.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: cdm on June 05, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Depending on your scale and intent, two of the ringwraiths from LOTR may do. I plan on using Morghul knights and the Mouth of Sauron as a guard unit for Mordred in my high medieval King Arthur setting.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: traveller on June 05, 2018, 02:59:06 PM
Just curious...which Black Knight are you looking for? A historical or fantasy one?
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Metternich on June 05, 2018, 05:52:24 PM
Was part of a long-running Dungeons and Dragons campaign back in the 1960's, and our go-to black knight was the Death Dealer.  Exudes menace.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: traveller on June 05, 2018, 08:25:34 PM
Was part of a long-running Dungeons and Dragons campaign back in the 1960's, and our go-to black knight was the Death Dealer.  Exudes menace.

Uuuh...sounds scary.....you definately need a mean SOB Fantasy knight. One of the LOTR Mordor types would fit  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Spooktalker on June 06, 2018, 12:58:52 AM
Found a few Reaper ones.

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14186_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/horse/sku-down/14186#detail/14186_G
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14160_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/kevin%20williams/sku-down/14160



Search the Overlords Warlord line for dismounted versions of these three.

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14258_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/mounted/latest/14258
Bones version of same:http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/horse/sku-down/77355

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14177_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/mounted/latest/14177#detail/14177_G

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14282_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/horse/sku-down/14282


You'll have to hunt for dismounted versions of these others.
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14440_G_1.jpg)
www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/horse/sku-down/14440#detail/14440_G_1

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14231_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/horse/sku-down/14231
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 06, 2018, 05:46:17 AM
That first Reaper one is nice... Hmm May have to change my view on what I want  lol
Just curious...which Black Knight are you looking for? A historical or fantasy one?

Fantasy. Popped it into the fantasy thread but either would suit me :)
Depending on your scale and intent, two of the ringwraiths from LOTR may do. I plan on using Morghul knights and the Mouth of Sauron as a guard unit for Mordred in my high medieval King Arthur setting.

Very nice also. And I see they are still available in metal. Very expensive in this neck of the woods though.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Metternich on June 06, 2018, 04:54:08 PM
And Mirliton has made the old Grenadier ranges available again.  An example of their foot chaos knights :

http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/CH001.jpg
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: PhilB on June 11, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
Was part of a long-running Dungeons and Dragons campaign back in the 1960's, and our go-to black knight was the Death Dealer.  Exudes menace.

The 60s? D&D was first published in 1974, IIRC. I recall having several Death Dealer figures back then as well, a mounted figure like in the above picture and a foot figure of the same set. Great stuff. Ral Partha, I believe.

If only I still had their polar bear chariot! <sigh>
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 11, 2018, 11:21:02 AM
Don't iron wind metals still do the polar bear chariot? It rings a bell.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: PhilB on June 11, 2018, 05:34:32 PM
Don't iron wind metals still do the polar bear chariot? It rings a bell.

By all the gods of Chaos, you're right!

http://ironwindmetals.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=7937

And a number of Death Dealer miniatures are available here, at Bronze Age Minis:

http://bronzeagemin.com/frank-frazetta/

At the risk of going off-thread, I recall the chariot on the polar bear chariot/sled being different, more open, without the sloping front bit. There must have been an aternative version available back in the day. But my google-fu is coming up blank.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: ink the troll on June 11, 2018, 07:23:14 PM
[...] At the risk of going off-thread, I recall the chariot on the polar bear chariot/sled being different, more open, without the sloping front bit. There must have been an aternative version available back in the day. But my google-fu is coming up blank.
Not wanting to derail this thread, I posted some pics (not sure they really show though) of the one bought way back here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=109582.msg1376149#msg1376149
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Metternich on June 11, 2018, 07:27:52 PM
Sorry, meant the 70's (old age catching up with me).  Bought the D & D rules about 1975 or 76 (but its predecessor, CHAINMAIL, also by Gygax and his friends, was a set of skirmish medieval skirmish rules that had a fantasy supplement - and I started playing that circa 1969). 
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: beefcake on June 12, 2018, 07:40:42 AM
Derail all you wish. I love hearing about other old favourites :)

I recall seeing that chariot back a long time ago and being wowed by it.
I love the chaos knights from Mirliton. My brother had some (still has) and I was always very jealous of them.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 13, 2018, 01:24:36 AM
I think I just picked up that chariot for a fiver at a bring and buy, along with the old flying chariot pulled by demons/gargoyles/whatever they were...now I'll have to go find it.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on June 13, 2018, 01:38:24 AM
I think the Great Enemy (Morgoth) from Khurasan miniatures would be appropriate for 28mm (is a very tall 15mm figure) and comes with a wolf helmet as an alternative (Sauron).   This could make a good black knight.
Reaper, as mentioned above, but also look at the Black Legionnaires.
Title: Re: Looking for a Black Knight
Post by: Wampley on June 13, 2018, 07:26:49 AM
I think that's the best Black Knight ever  :D :

http://www.studiominiatures.com/media/k2/items/cache/ec6196337b424054df1d55951c9bb0a7_XL.jpg