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Miniatures Adventure => Adventures in the Far East => Topic started by: Shipka on June 13, 2018, 05:24:27 PM
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Steve Barber has just finished a new green of a Dutch soldier in early uniform as worn during the early part of The Aceh War., this is a commissioned range by another enthusiast of the esoteric......it is understood this is the first miniature and others are on the sculpting table
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Will there be local warriors as well? Can't call them Indonesians but tribal and Warlord's troops?
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I understand there will be Aceh Natives
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I understand there will be Aceh Natives
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look interesting..........nice figure :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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There are two hearts beating in my breast when I see Steve Barber Minitures. The figure on on hand is nice, but these gigantic Hands are so terrible. Looks a little bit like he put his hand in a bee home and was sticked a million times and they grew. Or if Steve Barber took the Hands from his 40mm for the 28mm....
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An Officer joins the ranks
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I am the one who commissioned these figures.There will be a couple of natives coming.I asked Steve about the size of the bayonet and he said it wasn't as big as it appears in the photos so it may be the same with the hands.Steve wants any and all imput from people with any knowledge about this conflict or anything on the figures themselves.I commissioned a couple of Dutch in the 1870's uniforms,a couple in the 1890's uniform and a couple of Acehese. I wanted to see if there's any interest in this conflict.That's all I can do right now as I'm not a rich man but hopefully others will want to get involved.
Mark
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Interesting to see a colonial force beyond the typical British and French.
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That's what I'm aiming for even though I like the French and British too. :D I'd like to see some Portuguese too. :D
Mark
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Marco, I will help when I can , as you are aware Steve is sculpting, Burmese, Lao and Siamese for me and I was planning to add some Malays
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Yes I see and they seem to be very popular.That's why I thought that this may be the right time for my proposed range.Then again maybe it's the worst timing as most people will not have the funds to do both. :'( :D
Mark
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A couple of Aceh tribal irregjlars, sculpted by Steve Barber for a client
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Second figure based on this photo.
Mark
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Mark which publication is the picture from
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Steve sent me this picture as I really didn't get that sculpt until I saw this photo.
Mark
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great looking sculpts..most unusual!
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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Look great .... will have to get ..something to go with my /Dayaks
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I have a few Dayaks too.
Mark
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I have a bunch of Dayaks too.
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Here is a sculpt of an early war Dutchman.Please feel free to express your opinion of it.
Mark
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fascinating period Mark..great figs :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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Just wanted something a little different.I haven't forgotten your Tonkin/Dahomey range! ;D
Mark
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Very nice indeed
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Another commission sculpt from Steve Barber, this time of a Dutch Nco
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Can;t wait for the Aceh
warriors.
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I am extremely interested in this.
I alerted the Dutch Miniatures Wargaming Facebook group so expect more interest. :D
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Steve is working on a another sculpt for me which makes 6 I commissioned,2 Acehnese,2 Dutch 1870's and 2 Dutch 1890's plus the nco 1890's someone else commissioned.I would like to commission 1 or 2 more by year's end.
Mark
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I follow this with great interest!
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Would be great to see a General “van Heutz” model. I’m interested in these wars and the whole Dutch-indies kolonial relations. I’m Dutch and have parts of my family history set in the dutch indies.
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Email Steve Barber, I know he is sculpting for a couple of customers on this range, you could always get in on the action if there is a specific figure you wanted
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interesting subject i could be tempted to try to buy a few minis..i already have some Dyaks from Willie, some OG Moros that in fact are'nt exactly moros and some 20 Tiger Miniatures Indonesians...please can you tell me how big are those Steve Barber minis?..are they comparable to Foundry? Old Glory? Gringo?...
I saw an interesting exphosition including artifacts from the Italian explorer/anthropologist Modigliani travels who visited the Island of Nias in Western Indonesia during the War , which was an aerea still not subdued by Dutch Army, but against the warning from Ducth Authorities, and with only an escort of 4 guides he succeeded in exploring the island and above not to be killed by natives ..he even established good relations with them.
The cover of his book show a nice warrior and the "real thing" was also visible:
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the author, Mr Modigliani, was described as a very peaceful guy..anyway his pict with a rifle, "in case of" seem more interesting for us wargamers..and call for a Foundry or North Star mini to be painted to represent an unusual Italian whinchester carbine armed guy in the Jungles of Indonesia for a what if scenario among angry Dutch soldiers pursuing to save this unwilling and troublemaker Italian while the local head hunters could be the unexpected surprise ;)
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Thanks Italwars on the info about the Italian explorer. Very interesting topic.
All the best,
Helen
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Would be great to see a General “van Heutz” model. I’m interested in these wars and the whole Dutch-indies kolonial relations. I’m Dutch and have parts of my family history set in the dutch indies.
Yes by all means commission a figure.I would also love a figure of Van Heutz.
Mark
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When Steve gets another one done for me that will give us 7 sculpts for the year and I hope to do one more for the year which isn't too bad and I hope to get 3- 5 done next spring.Up to this point the 7 are 2 Dutch 1870's,3 Dutch 1890's,and 2 Acehnese. We need more Acehnese lol (and Dutch too :D)
Mark
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the author, Mr Modigliani, was described as a very peaceful guy..anyway his pict with a rifle, "in case of" seem more interesting for us wargamers..and call for a Foundry or North Star mini to be painted to represent an unusual Italian whinchester carbine armed guy in the Jungles of Indonesia for a what if scenario among angry Dutch soldiers pursuing to save this unwilling and troublemaker Italian while the local head hunters could be the unexpected surprise ;)
This pic intrigues me no end....a uniform designed for roughing it out in the jungle and on his feet some finest quality expensive Italian shoes!
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Steve is working on a another sculpt for me which makes 6 I commissioned,2 Acehnese,2 Dutch 1870's and 2 Dutch 1890's plus the nco 1890's someone else commissioned.I would like to commission 1 or 2 more by year's end.
Mark
Yes, I'm the one who commissioned the NCO and helped Steve with finding period photos. I'd love to be able to add rebel leader Teukuh Umar to the list, but I'd prefer if someone else would assist.
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Here is a pic
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May i ask please if somebody already have S Barber minis among his collection how they compare in therms of size with other ranges?
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May i ask please if somebody already have S Barber minis among his collection how they compare in therms of size with other ranges?
I would say with the miniatures I've for the Hungarian Up-Rising and First Italian War of Unification will fit in with Perry Miniatures.
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Yes, I'm the one who commissioned the NCO and helped Steve with finding period photos. I'd love to be able to add rebel leader Teukuh Umar to the list, but I'd prefer if someone else would assist.
I can't do anything right now but by the beginning of November I might be able to split one with you.I'll get in touch with you then unless you commission it with someone else by then.
Mark
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I would agree with Helen's comment
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Italwars;
I wonder if the photo wasn't inadvertently developed mirror image (sometimes happened with late 19th century photography - e.g. the famous "Billy the Kid" photo). I say that because the loading gate on the Winchester carbine pictured is on the left side, whereas in actuality Winchesters loaded from the right side.
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I can't commission any thing right now but hope to be able to do 3 or 4 by March.Real life has to intrude for a little while. :( >:( lol I haven't given up on this range.Once we can get some casted and painted that might increase the interest hopefully. :D
Mark
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Will be great to see the castings
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As we end the year we have ended up with 7 sculpts,2 KNIL 1870's,3 KNIL 1890's and 2 Acehnese.I was hoping for 10 sculpts but came up a little short as real life interferes :-[.I know in a couple of months I would like to commission at least 2 Acehnese in combat poses and another Dutch 1870's.I of course would like to get some Dutch native troops.The process is slow for me but I'm not giving up.I really thought we would get more support from the Netherlands but it is what it is.All the best.
Mark.
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KNIL 1890's
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Lovely work from Steve. Esoteric periods are difficult to bring new folk into the fold. Hang in there as I'm sure in time more interest will pique folks interest.
Thanks for sharing.
All the best,
Helen
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great figs Mark keep up the good work in having these made
for a neglected period :D
cheers
Ged
www.gringo40s.com
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Thanks Ged and Helen.We will keep plugging away. ;D :-*
Mark
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Excellent work
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look great.
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As we end the year we have ended up with 7 sculpts,2 KNIL 1870's,3 KNIL 1890's and 2 Acehnese.I was hoping for 10 sculpts but came up a little short as real life interferes :-[.I know in a couple of months I would like to commission at least 2 Acehnese in combat poses and another Dutch 1870's.I of course would like to get some Dutch native troops.The process is slow for me but I'm not giving up.I really thought we would get more support from the Netherlands but it is what it is.All the best.
Mark.
Interesting project ..but one question please..did nt the Dutch Native Troops (i m referring to the late period) have exactly them same uniform of Dutch European troops not only because they formed mixed units?
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Marginally interested in this range (only found out about the 19th conflicts in this area earlier in the year), even just for a mini painting project they're lovely.
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Interesting project ..but one question please..did nt the Dutch Native Troops (i m referring to the late period) have exactly them same uniform of Dutch European troops not only because they formed mixed units?
I think they are the same but not 100 % sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korps_Marechaussee_te_voet
Mark
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Some good news coming soon. lol ;D :D
Mark
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Received my first figures today and was happy with them.The casting was excellent,details were very good.I'm commissioning the rebel leader Teukuh Umar next.I'm hoping to start getting the figures in combat action poses hoping to increase interest. Probably will be getting a couple more Acehnese done after Umar than go back to the Dutch.
Mark
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Good news indeed - but no photos?
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WHAT PHOTOS ARE YOU AFTER?
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Casting ones for what Mark received (i.e. non-greens to show off "casting was excellent,details were very good", etc).
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I didn't take no photos yet as I just got a new phone and I'm having trouble learning it (old man syndrome. lol)
Mark
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This is a fantastic and exciting project.
I am based in Malaysia and have worked on and off with Achehnese over the last 20 years. I will definitely get this range when its out.
It would be good if you could add two personalities to the range:
1. Cut Nyak Dhien - The female Achehnese guerrilla leader who led them for over 25 years. Wife of Teuku Umar. She now features on the 10,000 rupiah bank note as is regarded as a national hero.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/COLLECTIE_TROPENMUSEUM_Groepsportret_met_Cut_Nyak_Dhien_de_vrouw_van_Teuku_Umar_na_haar_gevangenneming_TMnr_10018822.jpg/500px-COLLECTIE_TROPENMUSEUM_Groepsportret_met_Cut_Nyak_Dhien_de_vrouw_van_Teuku_Umar_na_haar_gevangenneming_TMnr_10018822.jpg)
After her capture by colonial forces.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Indonesia_1998_10000r_o.jpg)
2. Snouck Hurgronje - orientalist, spy and pre-eminent Dutch scholar of Acheh. He was van Heutz's advisor and help turn the tide of the war to favour the Dutch.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Snouck_Hurgronje_in_Mekka.jpg/1024px-Snouck_Hurgronje_in_Mekka.jpg)
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A little slow on getting figures commissioned this year.Hopefully later in the year.
Mark
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A little slow on getting figures commissioned this year.Hopefully later in the year.
Mark
Good luck and looking forward to them
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Just ordered this book.Got it for $5+.It says it's in good condition,we'll see ;). One other copy left but for $89+! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000EDU7K/?coliid=I3D14BT26WPAGN&colid=221N773BW5OEU&psc=0
Mark
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Just ordered this book.Got it for $5+.It says it's in good condition,we'll see ;). One other copy left but for $89+! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000EDU7K/?coliid=I3D14BT26WPAGN&colid=221N773BW5OEU&psc=0
Mark
Received this book today.Text in English and Indonesian (I know there are many) languages and a massive amount of pictures.Not bad for $6
Mark
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Unfortunately there has been hardly any interest in this range so I will not be getting anymore figures sculpted for this range.I had high hopes. :(
Mark
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Go the 20mm route! It's much cheaper to commission figures in that scale.
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sorry there was not more interest..
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I am so sorry the range garnered little interest, I always tip my hat to people who fund ranges to get them out there, you tried and the figures are very nice, not my sphere of interest unfortunately, such a shame. :(
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For those of us who game esoteric periods or armies it is a passion and a curse, I know having commissioned figures over the years sometimes people get on board and join in on a project at other times they don't...but still if those of us who have the desire to open up little known wars will even if only one figure is commissioned through a sculptor it means history is brought to the masses.
Good on you Marco for having had the desire.....
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Still may try to get some done in the future.I wanted to get 6-8 figures done this year but was unable to.Steve is doing one I commissioned a while back.It's been a rough year. If I do get anymore done it will be a few Acehnese before going back to the Dutch.I would like to get some more action oriented.As far as the figures themselves that have been done I think they came out real nice.
Mark
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For those of us who game esoteric periods or armies it is a passion and a curse, I know having commissioned figures over the years sometimes people get on board and join in on a project at other times they don't...but still if those of us who have the desire to open up little known wars will even if only one figure is commissioned through a sculptor it means history is brought to the masses.
Good on you Marco for having had the desire.....
The Aceh War is listed as 1873-1904 but actually lasted on and off until WWII.So it was a large war but virtually unknown in English speaking nations.So people know little about it compared to the Zulus,Mahdists and Pathans and the American Indian Wars.
Mark
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I had commissioned another figure earlier in the year.It is a Acehnese rebel leader and Steve has finished him.Here he is.
Mark
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Lovely miniature from Steve. Thank you for adding another esoteric period to the wargame community.
Best regards,
Helen
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Teuku Umar is now available.I'm hoping to get a few more sculpts done this year.Any ideas please let us know.I'm not ready to give up on my range yet.
Mark
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I'm getting tempted as more emerge. I think the rank & file from Tiger Minis would bulk out a force nicely.
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Tiger Miniatures is much bigger.
Mark
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If we could get some action poses for both the Acehnese and the Dutch and get some separate heads sculpted we could have more variants we could expand faster then keep going with different poses.Perhaps this would generate more interest.One more thing also is the actual figures look much better in person,
Mark
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Probably the uniform, at least for the intermediate period (cork helmet), was smillar to the Europeans , but native regular troops (marechaussé) with their big Barong or sabres would be a useful addition
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Probably the uniform, at least for the intermediate period (cork helmet), was smillar to the Europeans , but native regular troops (marechaussé) with their big Barong or sabres would be a useful addition
Yes I agree.I was trying to get some Dutch and Acehnese done before we started on specialist units.
Mark
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Tiger Miniatures is much bigger.
Mark
thanks for he info..but in another post i read that those S Barber minis are compatible with Gringo ..while, in fact, Tiger minis are smaller than Gringo miniatures...so which are the smallest ones between Tiger and S Barber minis?..i would like to field maybe some Ducth regulars VS my Old Glory or Monday Night Productions moros that i already have and that could pass, at least as temporary gap filling, for Acheneese type warriors..even the Chineese minis that S Barber has just put in production could be an interesting addition to Chinese Boxer Rebellion Armies..what about their compability with for example Old Glory, Foundry ecc..maybe any comparison picts available?
thanks for your opinion
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thanks for he info..but in another post i read that those S Barber minis are compatible with Gringo ..while, in fact, Tiger minis are smaller than Gringo miniatures...so which are the smallest ones between Tiger and S Barber minis?..i would like to field maybe some Ducth regulars VS my Old Glory or Monday Night Productions moros that i already have and that could pass, at least as temporary gap filling, for Acheneese type warriors..even the Chineese minis that S Barber has just put in production could be an interesting addition to Chinese Boxer Rebellion Armies..what about their compability with for example Old Glory, Foundry ecc..maybe any comparison picts available?
thanks for your opinion
I just saw this post. Here's a couple of shots. I'm not very good at taking comparison pics but here's a couple of pics with a couple of Gringo 40's ,one of which is based so not a good example. The difference in size is more pronounced in person.
Mark
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I'm hoping to get some more done early next year but more fighting poses maybe with optional heads. Not a popular range I know but I want to continue if for myself if no one else. :D ;)
Mark
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Thanks for posting those comparison picts but of what firms are we talking? Any caption if possible ..For example from left to right: ?
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The bottom pic is Steve Barber,Gringo 40's,SB,SB,Gringo.
Mark
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Thanks for the additional explanation
so those SB minis seem absolutly compatible with the majority of manufactures at least as concern for those exotic ranges like Aceh/Dutch...in fact majority of my armies are from classic Old Glory, Foundry ecc..by any chance may i ask you please if also the SB Chinese and the 1866 range are similar in size with to those Dutch or they are quite big like Gringo or Redoubt?....not a problem in case as i mix types ..but just to know in advance before, in case, buying some few...and thanks for having posted the picts and add the infos Marco those kind of contribution is always welcomed...
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Your quite welcome.I would say to ask Shipka about the Chinese as he has been commissioning them and I believe he is getting them made to be compatible with Gringo 40's but I won't swear to it.
Mark
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Lovely sculpts. You would probably get more interest with some nicely painted examples, and maybe a demo game or two.
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Yes I do need to get some painted.I don't game but I do like to set up dioramas/vignettes.
Mark
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You would probably get more interest with some nicely painted examples, and maybe a demo game or two.
Or you could also provide a free sourcebook in the form of a blog along the lines of Abyssinian Crisis - https://abyssiniancrisis.wordpress.com/category/armies/