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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Papierschnitzel on July 11, 2018, 11:57:37 AM
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After my warm up exercises with cannons and rowing boats, I have decided to tackle my next larger project.
I want to create a paper model set to build a fleet with different sized boats in the "pirate" era. If all goes well, I will have everything from small rowing boats to huge galleons. I have a rough sketch of the different sizes I want to do.
The focus will be on easy build, good looks and lots of variations so you can build anything you need from small harbor scene to a full scale fleet battle. Deck structures will be optional, moveable parts like the cannons I have shown in another thread or these helm/steering wheel versions. That way you can glue them in place or modify your ship from scenario to scenario.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09127.jpg)
I have started with the small rowing boat and already completed the geometry of a larger rowing boat "jolly boat" and the smallest sail ship "gun boat".
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09135.jpg)
For the rowing boats I have made these inlays where you can switch between a more realist look of the rowing benches and a more spacey one where you can insert minis. Or you just take the inlays out and use the "empty" boat as a tray for minis.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09132.jpg)
Here I have switched the jolly boat to use the inlay where I can squeeze 5 minis into the boat.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09133.jpg)
If you take out the inlay you can put in even more minis.
For the gun boat I was able to cram in all of these figures! I still need to make muskets as the boat is too small for cannons.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09134.jpg)
I have yet to decide on a solution for mast and sails. I think for the easy version I will go for a flat 2D version that you can insert into a mast stump on deck. But maybe I will also go for a full 3D detailed version.
What are your thoughts on this? What are the needs for gaming with masts? Do they only look good or do you need things like a guy in the lookout or line-if-sight on deck with someone behind a mast or sail?
Would love to hear some feedback from you!
Cheers,
Chris
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Here are some WIP pics of the first test build of the textured jolly boat. This is the just-wood look. I want to make more color variations to build but for starters I went with the basics. Also there is no weathering layer yet, so it looks like it just was built new :-)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09179.jpg)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09178.jpg)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09180.jpg)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09181.jpg)
There are a couple of minor details I want to add in the texturing but other than that I think it looks OK now. Once I have added the other colors I will make some more builds.
Cheers,
Chris
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Perfect, admirable job! :-* Cheers!
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...For the gun boat I was able to cram in all of these figures! I still need to make muskets as the boat is too small for cannons...
Thoughts:
The boat in question could have a single cannon mounted in the bows. That was a common way to arm Longboats.
Muskets are equipment that would typically be carried by the figures.
The intermediate grade weapon between a small cannon (say a 6-pounder) and muskets is a “swivel gun”. You might build some of those. They’d be useful on all the craft you’ve made so far.
Other names for small boats: Jolly boat, Launch, Pinnace, Barge, (sometimes Captain’s Barge) Longboat, Skiff.
That largest design you have going might be described as a Cutter or a Schooner. But the difference between those two is more about the rigging than the size of the hull.
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Yes, swivel gun is what I meant but I forgot the term. As they are quite small at this scale I am thinking about just doing a 2D version that you can attach to the sides.
Also thanks for the vocabulary update on the ship type names. It will go on my list to be used in later posts :D
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Nice, where do we get one?
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You can join my Patreon for early realses. I'll be releasing the boats over the coming months. I have not made my mind up how I will go public once I have them all done.
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Here are some update pics on the variations of the jolly boat
I have built in a new wood look, an old wood look and some special color layers for outside and inside. Mixing these with the color modifiers (lighter, darker, warmer, cooler and bleached) you can build many unique looking boats if so required.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09195.jpg)
This is an old dark boat build. I have also added some smaller optional details, like metal stuff here and the bottom is textured too, in case you want to flip a boat over and use it for cover!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09186.jpg)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09188.jpg)
For the jolly boats of big ships I have included the option of a white and black outside hull and blue and red interior. For the outside you can then choose more details. Here I went for a white hull with blue interior. And on the outside I have a black strip and the top wood line. Again many options possible. Cannot build them all! :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09191.jpg)
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Happy buildling,
Chris
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They look perfect! You are doing a fine job! Cheers!
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You can join my Patreon for early realses. I'll be releasing the boats over the coming months. I have not made my mind up how I will go public once I have them all done.
Oh okay. i'd just like to buy the models, I imagine you'll let us know on here when and how. ;)
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Oh okay. i'd just like to buy the models, I iamgine you'll let us know on here when and how. ;)
Will do! :D
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I have updated the small rowing boat to the "old wood" layer and built a light version.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09229.jpg)
This is a comparison to the jolly boat.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09232.jpg)
Of course my LEGO crew had to try out the boats!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09223.jpg)
And then my paper minis wanted to join in on the fun!!!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09196.jpg)
I am working on completing the dock modules now before I continue with the gun boat. That will be the first ship with mast and sails. So lots of challenges to tackle! :)
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very nice boats!
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I have added docks now ... and set up this little dio to see how it looks :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/DSC09251.jpg)
I am happy how the dock modules turned out. Wasn't sure where I would end in the beginning but I can envision a couple of small and larger pirate harbors now 8)
BTW most of what you see is optional ... ropes, barnacles, dirt etc. you can turn it on or off as you like or need.
Looking forward to start working on the bigger boats soon!
Chris
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Made a fun pic called "Waiting for the big ships" with what I have got so far :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/waiting_for_the_big_ships_2.png)
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Made a fun pic called "Waiting for the big ships" with what I have got so far :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/waiting_for_the_big_ships_2.png)
Very atmospheric and shows the potential of all what you are making! Cheers!
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Thank you very much DintheDin!
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Really like your boats.
Will be buying some soon.
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Thank you guys! Don't forget these are my Patreons current month rewards ;) Public release will come later ...
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I signed up for the $2 a month package as I told you, and just came back to find it hasn't "stuck", so I've signed up again. Is it showing at your creator end now? Can I still get these boats?
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I signed up for the $2 a month package as I told you, and just came back to find it hasn't "stuck", so I've signed up again. Is it showing at your creator end now? Can I still get these boats?
I PM you there already. No problem we will make it work.
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Thanks for sorting it out for me - much appreciated. 8) 8) 8)
Nice kits too.
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After a month break working on my Feudal Japan series I am back to work on pirate ships!
This is what I am going for this month. I call it the gun ship. A smaller vessel - too small for cannons - yet it can be equipped with swivel guns and turn a regular fishing boat by day into a dangerous pirate raiding ship when the situation is favorable.
Here is a concept sketch I drew over a rendering of the base geometry I will use.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09443.jpg)
The mast and sails will be optional and removable to better support gaming, but I hope to design them well enough they will look great both on the gaming table and in the display shelf :D
More to come soon!
Chris
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looking good so far!
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Amazing! The boats are fantastic and the dock is perfect. o_o :-*
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Thank you guys!
Here is a first look at a white build prototype. I am very happy with the ship's hull geometry. The mast is still a rough prototype and needs to become less massive for this kind of vessel.
I scribbled a texturing sketch on, so you have a hint of what it should look like once finished.
I think I can now start the coloring process :)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09444.jpg)
Chris
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Looking forward to this one. 8) :D
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Great to hear Phil :D
Here is a first look at texturing. It's not final. I want to change some minor things, add more detail to the deck and pack a whole bunch of variation layers in. But for now I am very happy how it turned out. I can start this baby coming to life :)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09447.jpg)
Stern view
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09448.jpg)
Enough room for a crew full of minis!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09445.jpg)
Once I got the hull finished, I look forward to start working on the mast/sail/ratline parts! I want to make the removable, as I feel for gaming, they would just be in the way.
Chris
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It is coming out great! And besides the texturing that gives it a real look, your eye on aesthetics is superb! Keep up the good job! Cheers!
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Today I can finally show you a working prototype of the removable sailing rig. For more details read my Patreon blog but in a nutshell, this is easy to build and very efficient to put together and take apart again!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09485.jpg)
I will do some minor modifications for the ratlines for this type of boat (the shown version might be a bit too much for a small vessel like this), but the general solution will make it into all future boats (sloop to galleon).
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09486.jpg)
Have to add the mast boot and probably make a little top extension for adding flags but here you see how everything is sliding over the mast (or bow for the foresail) and held by "rings".
Of course - if you want to pimp up your boat - you can easily add thread lines or even replace the paper sail with a cloth one! But I am very happy that I have a pure paper solution.
Chris
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You are doing a fantastic job there!
And I see that you can slide the sails on the mast, so you can dismantle the whole thing in seconds!
Genious!!! :-*
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That's the idea :D Don't know why I didn't think of this first, but this is a both easy to build and easy to handle. Once it is textured it should look great.
Chris
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nice solution for the rigging and mast
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Of course - if you want to pimp up your boat - you can easily add thread lines or even replace the paper sail with a cloth one! But I am very happy that I have a pure paper solution.
Chris
I agree with tomrommel that you have engineered a good solution for a removable sail.
I am in the pimp the boat camp. I realize you are intent on making it pure paper. I do think if some optional construction methods were included it could go from a good solution to a great solution.
—What if the mast was a bamboo skewer (like those used for kebabs) ?
—What if the mast was paper, but it was a near perfect cylinder because it was made by rolling up a rectangle of paper in a tight spiral (rather like a rolled up newspaper...if those are a thing anymore :? )
—What if a sturdy plastic drinking straw replaced the sleeve on the mainsail?
—The ratlines would look really good, and be stiffer, if they were printed such that there was an inside and an outside. (Fold, glue together back-to-back.) They would also be sturdier if they were two thicknesses of paper glued back to back. For that matter the sails kinda need to be a double thick surface, with sail coloring both sides.
—The ring at the top of the jib looks frail. Perhaps consider making it a much thicker tab. Also that is for sure a spot I would reinforce with a short piece of a plastic drinking straw. (Pipette? not sure how drinking straw will translate to Deutch?)
—Maybe include templates for flags? A Jolly Roger etc.
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These are many great ideas. I have toyed with the idea of using chopsticks to make wooden masts and sail booms. I will make the sails flat but if you want you could add "3D" booms. Bamboo skewers also should work fine.
The mast is a hexagon tube that has a triangle tube inside for strengthening. You could also roll up thin paper and use it inside for strength.
The whitebuild is a more "fragile" prototype. You are absolutely right, the final thing has have stronger rings. I just slap on more paper layers but of course you can use any material like drinking straws to make the rings more durable.
The ratlines and the sails will be double sides. They have to look good from any POV :D But also it will strengthen the parts. I found the pure paper ratlines to bend a little and was thinking one could add a wire in between the two layers to make it more straight.
I am building the textured ratlines right now so I will have pics on that soon.
On the top of the mast I will make a little extension mast (pure paper of course but could be replaced with a toothpick!) where flags would go, like the famous pirate skulls one. I will provide parts for that too.
I think if you want customize the ships there will be many options to make a "hero" model. It will depend if you want to build a couple of ships to form a small fleet or you want to build a centerpiece model.
So today I want to show you the customizing options.
The ship will come with two basic wood skins. One is a lighter wood with dark details and one is the opposite. But then you can change the colors of different sections.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/gunboat_tex_col_vars_layout.jpg)
Here you see the two starter skins and the different sections that you can customize. Each of these (color coded here) you can change to red, blue, green, yellow, white and black. This will give you gazillions of options for unique boats. Mix that with the usual color modifiers I provide (darker, lighter, warmer, cooler, bleached) ... I don't even know how to calculate all possible options :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/gunboat_col_vars.jpg)
So this build has a blue hull with yellow top rail and top line, a dark blue bottom line detail and a white bottom hull. Once I add the weathering to reflect dirt and scratches it will look even better!
OK, on to finalizing the sail rig and textures. I will leave the swivel guns for last, but adding these will turn a regular fishing boat into a menacing pirate ship! ;D
Chris
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that looks really good
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It is coming out beautiful! Keep them coming!
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Six colors. Five modifiers + unmodified?. Two customizable zones. Two available wood tones for the rest.
6 x (5 + 1) x 2 x 2= 144 possible colour schemes. If the hull bottom can be any of several colors that will push the number of combinations up.
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Any chance of selling bare templates for those of us who'd want to make them out of card or balsa/popsicle sticks? You've really nailed the look and feel, but besides being clumsy as all get out and horrible at assembling paper models, I just prefer something a bit more solid. Either way, really excellent work. :)
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Any chance of selling bare templates for those of us who'd want to make them out of card or balsa/popsicle sticks? You've really nailed the look and feel, but besides being clumsy as all get out and horrible at assembling paper models, I just prefer something a bit more solid. Either way, really excellent work. :)
You can switch off all the colors and textures and just print the lines! Is that what you need?
Six colors. Five modifiers + unmodified?. Two customizable zones. Two available wood tones for the rest.
6 x (5 + 1) x 2 x 2= 144 possible colour schemes. If the hull bottom can be any of several colors that will push the number of combinations up.
Ok, let's see if I can do this. These are the combos:
2 basic versions
5 modifiers
4 customizables in 6 colors
2 bottom hulls (black and white)
1 dirt layer (coming up)
But I don't think you can just multiply them all, can I? I made a chart and for the 5 modifiers alone I come up with 32 possible combinations. That's probably 2 (on or off)^5 (choices).
The chart for the customizable colors was too big ;D but I am guessing 6 (colors) ^ 4 (customizable areas) ... that's 1296.
So I think it will be in the area of 2x32x1296x3 (no/white/black bottom hull)*2(no dirt and weathered) ... 497.664 options? Not sure about including the "non" option for the last two items, but even without it would more than 100.000 options.
Should be enough for a fleet of unique looking vessels! :D
And I haven't started with variations for the sails!!!
Chris
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Here is a look at the textured mast and ratlines for the gunboat.
This is a detailed cut of the ratlines.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09504.jpg)
Here I have just cut the outlines. It's a little simpler and sturdier but has the black area inbetween.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09497.jpg)
When you want to store it away in a box, take it all apart!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09500.jpg)
With the dual layers glued (inside and outside) the parts are quite sturdy. I have used 160gsm paper so far, except for the ratline holder on the side. These I have doubled up to make them stronger. The sails will even be 80gsm (office) paper, so that the sails wont get too thick and heavy.
Going back to texturing the sails now :D
Chris
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These are really fantastic - can't wait to be able to purchase them. keep up the fantastic work. I take it like the Japanese buildings they will be available on wargames vault?
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Those ratlines look good. Really good. I could see those being used instead of strings and such on non-paper models. Seriously, a ratlines kit... ...a whole page of assorted ratlines... could be useful.
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These are really fantastic - can't wait to be able to purchase them. keep up the fantastic work. I take it like the Japanese buildings they will be available on wargames vault?
Later yes. For now only via my Patreon because I want to do a kickstarter, once I have all vessels developed. Probably beginning of next year.
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Those ratlines look good. Really good. I could see those being used instead of strings and such on non-paper models. Seriously, a ratlines kit... ...a whole page of assorted ratlines... could be useful.
Never thought about it, but great idea. I will do the classic three and four line wide ratline pieces for the larger boats ...
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So many hull options and variations of the sails? :o
You are doing a pioneering work! With care and love for your projects!
What's not to admire? Congrats!
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Thank you man! :-*
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I have finished texturing the sails! It took a little more time than I thought but I think it was worth it.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09505-2.jpg)
I added details so that the sails are held in place if you want to move boats around the table with sails. The forsail rope is slotted into pins and the main sail boom is held by a mainsheet part.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09506-2.jpg)
Almost finished :D Now all that is left are the swivel guns and adding the weathering and then another build. A dirty, old, wooden gun boat!
Chris
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this looks so gorgeous
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Have added weathering layers and made some swivel guns and finally added the option for flags ... and then built an older looking version of a pirate boat!
How do you like this look?
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09597.jpg)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09596.jpg)
And here I have put a little crew of Paperforge 28mm paper minis on board!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC09602-2.jpg)
Time to start making the instructions and getting ready for release!!!
Chris
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How do we like it?
The pirate boat is beyond any imagination! Lovely!!! :-* :-* :-*
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Thank you :D I really enjoy making these. Cannot wait to get started on the Sloop. Will be a little larger again and finally have gun ports for the cannons! But wait, wait, wait ... first complete this one ;D
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outstanding!
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I made a dark pirate version, to see how different a look I can create with the layers.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/pirates_vs_pirates.png)
David Okum's zombie pirates worked really well for the black ship!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DSC09620-2.jpg)
Ready to move on to a new ship now :D
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Both are gorgeous, but the dark pirate ship looks so evil! :-*
In any case they look much different, so your layers work very nicely!
Keep up the good job!
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stunning
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Thanks guys! :)
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Those are really cute, useful and a real must have...
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This month I am starting with the next ship (or ship class) in the Pirate Fleet builder series: The sloop!
During my research I found that most Pirates did not have the classic huge Pirates of the movie screen ships, but rather had smaller vessels like the previous gunboat and the sloop. The sloop with it's simple yet effective sailing rig is the forefather of the modern recreational sailing boats. It was small yet fast and agile, so it was quite a match for larger vessels. But it was larger enough to carry cannons! So this will be my first ship with gunports and cannons.
Here is a first concept sketch I made to summarize my research.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/sloop_sketch.jpg)
I then started to work on the geometry and made a first prototype build (and also sketched some details on) at half scale (= for 15mm minis) as here all parts fit on on the pages unsplit.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DSC09628.jpg)
I will make some minor adjustments. I find the stern cabin section is a little to short. But other than that one can see in which direction I am going.
I will start working on the finalized geometry and start to build a 28-30mm version with the larger parts. And then I am really looking forward to put some of the cannons I have built some time ago on deck!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/DSC08942.jpg)
In the meantime,
happy building!
Chris
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nice new project
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I have been busy :D
Here's a look at the half scale (15mm minis) final prototype. I have been stretching the stern part to make it look more pleasing. The first test was too short.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09844.jpg)
The cabin will be removable so you have two ship options with that.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09845.jpg)
And then I started working on the full scale (28-30mm minis) prototype. For this size I have some parts split as they are longer than a page.
Here is the comparison of the half and full scale model.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09846.jpg)
I started to sketch the details on to get a better look. With the LEGO's I think you can imagine the scale better. Let's just say there will be enough deck space for mini action :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09847.jpg)
A final test to see if the canons fit revealed: they don't :-[ So I have to raise the sides by about 5mm. But when I looked at the minis, they looked to high because of the raised base. So actually the correction is just fine! :)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09848.jpg)
Now I need to work in all the corrections I found during the build and then I can start working on the cabin and texturing!
Happy building,
Chris
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It is coming out very nice! Good continuation!
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Next test build with lots of corrections and deck structures ... and the cannons! :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09856.jpg)
Now I have to start working on the mast/sail/rig and the texturing. Getting there :)
Chris
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Very -Very NICE!!!!
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Very -Very NICE!!!!
+1 !!!
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outstanding
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Hi guys,
today I have more WIP pics to show of the textured Pirate Sloop.
First is a pic with all the deck structures I am adding to the set. They are all removable so you can configure your gaming version as you like! The texturing is not 100% final but almost. I have made some final corrections and tweaks after this build.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09910-2.jpg)
For gaming I took out some of the deck structures and had more room for minis :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09911.jpg)
Even the stern cabin is removable. Here is a look at the empty hull.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09904.jpg)
Here is a stern view. I found an error I made while transferring some geometry corrections to the build files, so you will notice the nasty gap on the corner. It's also fixed now. But with the choice of texturing color (black) it doesn't look that bad even like this. I tried to make the geometry almost "self-correcting" for ease of build. Looking forward what builders will say once it's out.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09905.jpg)
Finally a comparison shot of the previous "gunboat" and the current sloop.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09912.jpg)
Now it's time to start working on some good looking mast and sails so you guys can crank out a nice fleet of these :D
Chris
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Could you do a stern without the windows ,too? If someone decides to run the sloop without the cabin?
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Could you do a stern without the windows ,too? If someone decides to run the sloop without the cabin?
Yes, sure! Thank god for layers :D
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A very rough test layout of mast and sails ... starting to look like a real ship now :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09924.jpg)
Chris
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looking really nice indeed
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looking really nice indeed
+1! :-* :-* :-*
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For the first time my usual 1-month release cycle is too short. I have to split the Patreon release into two parts to keep with the quality I am striving for!
So to get the first half ready I am completing and polishing and packaging the ships hull, deck and cabin. Here is a look at the fully weathered new build. I have added dirt, scratches and old wood texture and also went with the lighter and bleached layers to add to the weather beaten look.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09975.jpg)
Here is a comparison of the older pristine build and the current old build.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DSC09974.jpg)
Now I am heading back to the workbench, as there are many smaller things I want to add before this release :D
Chris
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Excellent work!
How do you paint the wood grain?
Thanks
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Excellent work!
How do you paint the wood grain?
Thanks
I create (digital) base textures like wood, wood planks, old wood etc. This process usually is a mix of painting patterns on my own and combining it with processed images. I don't want to just use photo captures as this usually results in a "hard" realistic look. I rather want to create a "softer" look that has the quality of painting. This gives me the control I need to get the right size and scale of details so the model will look believable from the viewers POV. Then I use these textures to (again) digitally paint the parts I have extracted from the 3D model geometry I have started with.
These 2D parts are then layout on the pages and exported to a PDF file, which I (and later all customers) print, cut and then assemble.
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I admire your job as you give it a scientific approach and take care of the smallest detail! Cheers!
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I admire your job as you give it a scientific approach and take care of the smallest detail! Cheers!
I do like to research so I have the choice to get things right or at least close to how it would be in real life. Not sure how scientific I approach it :D
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I do like to research so I have the choice to get things right or at least close to how it would be in real life. Not sure how scientific I approach it :D
Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. Or: a systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject.
In my eyes, you are pioneering the whole subject with a scientific approach and you have my full respect and admiration! :)
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I have been working on the mast extensions and the sailing rig and finally got some new WIP pics to show! :)
Here you see the jib and genoa sails in the front ...
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DSC00023.jpg)
... and here a side view. This is the prototype model finished with "pristine" look.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DSC00024.jpg)
Now it's time to start the weathering and then completing the final build. The old hull is waiting :D
Chris
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Almost done. After adding all the weathering, all that is left is the top mast flag. Will do that next week, with the instructions and packaging of the set.
So here is a little teaser pic of the almost finished Sloop ... with paper minis and all :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DSC00130.jpg)
Chris
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Gorgeous!
Its line and silhouette looking so realistic!
And the finishing touch of the weathering! :-*
So well done! Congrats!
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absolutely amazing :-*
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Thank you guys! I am very proud how it turned out and it's great to hear you also enjoy her.
I will be looking forward to hear from first builders how they experience the build process. I think she is quite easy to build, but of course I might have developed a blind spot or tunnel vision to be able to give a objective opinion :D
Chris
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I found great white cardboard plates in the hobby shop, which will help me a big deal taking photos esp. with the larger ship. The old setup was too small :)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DSC00138.jpg)
Today I made a little fun pic with some monster minis. I call it "Trouble on sea" :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DSC00150comp.jpg)
Chris
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A new year, a new model :D I have started working on the next ship in the line: the Brig!
Here's my first concept sketch.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/brig_sketch_lineart.jpg)
It will be a little larger than the Sloop. The hull will be apx 16" long (the Sloop was 12") and have a true raised deck at the back. I might do an optional raised deck in the bow section, but not sure about an forecastle for space reasons. Might leave that one for the Galleon.
Progress will probably be a little bit slower as I am also working on a building project at the same time. Or I just have to speed up! :D
Chris
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Here is a first look at my half scale prototype for the ships hull. Just figuring out the overall geometry and starting to think about figure head section in the front and possible hull variation details.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/DSC00169.jpg)
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The sloop came out perfect and you made a really fun pic!
The brig, oh my! You have very good 3-D sense!
So beautiful hull lines! Cheers!
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marvelous!!!!
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Over the weekend I have started to adapt the brig parts to the full scale (double of the prototype). This requires some splitting up of parts and finding the right splits for overlap gluing.
I was able to do the core layer and the outer hull and got this test build done...
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/DSC00210.jpg)
Due to the missing inner hull and deck parts the sides are a little to wide. The missing parts will keep them in the right shape. But other than that you get a good idea of the shape.
Here is a comparison with the previous ship models. Makes the size pop :D
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/DSC00212.jpg)
I am really excited about this ship. This month I am just working on the weekends on this (as I am working on another project) but next week will be 100% brig time!!!
Chris
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This gets better and better
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Very nice in deed
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After a month working on some Chinese buildings, I am back with the brig!
I got the textures for the hull done and started a new build.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00403.jpg)
Also a view from the stern.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00404.jpg)
Next I will work on the deck texturing and find the mast positions.
As you can see from the ref minis, this is going to have enough deck space for serious action :D
For this model I also want to add a new deck "structure", a vertical capstan. That should look good on deck.
Chris
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Made the deck textures ... and I think the ship is going to be a great tabletop model! :)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00410.jpg)
Here's the size comparison Brig vs the Sloop.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00409.jpg)
I tried to "recycle" some parts from the older models, just to see if it all fits and put a couple of paper minis on deck.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00408.jpg)
I even put the smallest rowing boat between the two mast ... but one cannot see it well in this shot. How much my babies have grown :D
Now it's time to work on the details like the railing for the upper deck and the stairs going down and then adding the deck details options to print. And finally work on the bow/figurehead section.
I do hope the upcoming KS with potential stretch goals for Frigate and Galleon will be a success. I only want to build these if there is enough interest, but I REALLY want to build these too ;D
Anyway, back to work!
Chris
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Amazing progress! Keep them coming! Cheers!
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Calling the prototype phase done! I have added some details like the stairs and railing to the upper deck ...
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00411.jpg)
... and also worked on the bow keel figurehead section.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00419.jpg)
Today I put together some preview pics with more deck details and minis!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DSC00421.jpg)
If you don't print deck details on you can use part which you can use or skip as needed. Do you see the double steering wheel on the upper deck? The stair entrance to the lower deck and grates on the main deck are also removable parts in this case.
Next week I will start adding dirt (weathering) and begin the final build, so I can compete the hull this month.
Here's a comparison of the brig with the sloop, so you can get an idea what the weathering and sailing rig (next month) will turn the brig model into!
Chris
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I have been working on a new build of the brig with weathered textures and open gun ports AND CANNONS! :D
This time I went for the classic ship-of-the-line color scheme. After adding the layers for color customization I roughly calculated over 100.000 possible unique looks!
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/warbrig_hull_preview.png)
The deck size is large enough to hold many minis. Here I have the British Navy fighting the Pirate zombies! (Paper minis by Okumarts)
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/warbrig_hull_preview_action.png)
I design my models for exterior gameplay but if you want to go "inside" I also provide deck plates for that. Here the zombie Pirates have no clue the prisoners in the captains cabin are planning an escape.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/DSC00561.jpg)
The light rays indicate where windows and doors are.
I decided for this setup because I don't find it practical to start removing deck sections during gaming as most likely all minis on deck would fall off or at least move around. For larger ships with more decks you could then simply have the other decks on the side and have your minis run up and down as needed.
Next up I will be working on the sailing rig ... this time with square sails!
Chris
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Outstanding job!
And the light rays indicating where the doors and windows are a simple and practical idea!
Cheers!
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Wonderfully clean work! :o
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lovely
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Thank you so much guys! :)
I am excited to get the sailing rig done for this one and even more to start prepping the Kickstarter project for the full "Pirate Fleet Builder" series. I very much hope it will be successful so I can continue working on the even larger Frigate (20"/50cm) and Galleon (24"/60cm).
I will also see if I can whip up some stone docks aka wharf in addition to the wooden ones for that.
If you have ideas what else should be included don't be shy! I cannot promise anything, but if makes sense and it's doable I will try to include it as a stretch goal!
Chris
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so nice and natural... Lovely!
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In the meantime I have continued working on the masts and ratlines (and crows nest) for the brig.
For the crows nest I went for this version as it works well for gaming with minis (it has space for 3x1" base minis so get 'em up there and fight! :D) although I might make the classic "bucket" version too later.
Here is the updated prototype with easy ratlines.
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/DSC00624.jpg)
Next will be the square sails and then repeating this step for the final build with the cannons! Getting quite excited and looking forward to see this ship will full sails soon :)
Chris
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We are quite excited too! :-* ;D ;) :)
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WOW! Those are very nice indeed!
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Thank you guys!
I have a question. As you see I mostly use paper minis now and my old LotR minis. I am wondering if one can get preferably prepainted pirate minis? I have given up painting minis when my eyes got worse and threw out my old (and dried up) paint some time ago. Would be cool to add some 28mm pirate minis in my pics.
I have to admit that every now and then I get bitten by the bug to paint minis again but would probably have to paint with some crazy huge magnifying glasses like a weird professor :D
So any hints and tips for pirate minis would be much appreciated!
Chris
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Time for some cool WIP again. I have added the square sails for the prototype. I am getting excited how good it looks :D Don't you agree?
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/WIP_BRIG_13_INST.jpg)
The jib sails in the front need some adjustments to work here but other than that I am ready to work on finalizing the new sail options and adding weathering to them. Then I will repeat this step for the final build.
Almost time to start prepping the Kickstarter and let the whole fleet sail the open seas and a gaming table near you! ;)
Chris
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Splendid! Splendid!
Can't find any reason why this model should be jealous of a plastic one!
I really admire your job! Keep them coming!
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Splendid! Splendid!
Can't find any reason why this model should be jealous of a plastic one!
I really admire your job! Keep them coming!
That's a very nice feedback! Thank you :-*
The big advantage of paper model PDF's - the ability to print and build as many as one wants - usually comes at the price of less detail compared to a plastic model. If you see my brig in the same league as plastic, I feel very proud :D
Chris
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Working on adding the masts and sails to the final build. For this one I am going to cut out the spaces on the ratline parts. It takes a while but actually was much less work than I thought.
Here is a little sneak peek ...
(http://www.papierschnitzel.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/DSC00679.jpg)
For those not so crazy :D you can always go for the easy version as seen before or print on transparencies.
Chris
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Love it! :-*
Unbelievable details!
Ok, cutting the spaces on the ratlines is quite a job, but is really worth it! Congrats!
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For those not so crazy :D you can always go for the easy version as seen before or print on transparencies.
Will you have cut files as well? I seem to recall all your previous stuff I bought has them.
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Will you have cut files as well? I seem to recall all your previous stuff I bought has them.
Yes I will provide cut files. But I tried cutting out the ratlines with the auto cutter and wasn't very pleased with the result. I had to go over the parts manually to fix up the problems with the cutting that I did the other ratlines just manually. Maybe it's just me and my cutter and I will test this with some beta testers further.
But I was surprised how fast the manual cutting went anyway. I think I am just an old school manual cutter :D
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Not only perfect cutter, but also your gluing and assembling is impeccable!
But this is what shows the final result.
I imagine that you have passed moments of trial and error, teeth gnashing and mumbling improper words lol
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Not only perfect cutter, but also your gluing and assembling is impeccable!
But this is what shows the final result.
I imagine that you have passed moments of trial and error, teeth gnashing and mumbling improper words lol
To be honest, I find myself to be an advanced beginner at best in terms of paper modelling. Sure I have a lot of experience with all the trial builds I make but I design my sets to be build-able by beginners too. When I look at what the pros do in paper modellers forums, there is so much more one could do. But I am lazy and if parts get too small and complicated there could be the one or other improper word by me :D
I am glad that you appreciate my results. Yes there where many trial and errors. For the attaching of the new square sails to the masts I have been doing and abandoning and redoing ideas until the last minute until I was satisfied with a solid, sturdy, working method.
Very happy that I have now completed that project and can start to prep the KS to let it loose on the world.
Chris