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Title: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Byblos on September 20, 2018, 05:52:31 PM
Hi everybody !

For my "Colonial" and "Russian Civil War" projects, I am gradually assembling a small flotilla of ships: gunboats, armed tug, barge of artillery, paddle-wheeled ships, etc. ...)

Here is a great colonial gunboat, inspired by the class "Crocodile" French, late nineteenth centur

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/av210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2580)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/av110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2579)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ar210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2581)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ar110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2582)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/poupe10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2583)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ecouti10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2584)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/p110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2587)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/p210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2586)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/proue10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2585)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/beaupr10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2588)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/blinda10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2589)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/blinda11.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2590)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/plonge10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2591)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/plonge12.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2593)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/plonge11.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2592)

At the base I wanted to reproduce the "Viper" of the Tonkin flotilla, but there is little precise documentation, the few illustrations differ from each other.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/vipere10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2595)

In fact, I decided to modify my initial plans and build a more "versatile" model.

I retained the following characteristic elements:

- Prow with "rostrum" (I always dreamed to do this kind of bow)
- Upper and straigh chimney
- Presence of a mast (with topsails being used as fighting stations for hotchkiss revolver guns)
- Between 1 and 3 locations for artillery

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/pluvie10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2594)

The dimensions are 75 cm long and 13.5 cm wide: note that the bowsprit and the high parts of the other masts are removable, to allow me to store the ship in my bookshelves.

The artillery is removable: I will provide a nineteenth century artillery (Parrot, Armstrong, etc ...: it will be for later because I have to be careful about the dimensions and models are expensive!) And a modern artillery late 19th / early 20th century. (There I already have quite a lot and TVAG is a good supplier of artillery kind, and not expensive only the cost of shipping).

Similarly I will provide the possibility of installing a second chimney behind the first to give a look "light cruiser" to the ship.

The bridge of command will be arranged (rudder, instruments of navigations, maybe a chair, etc ...) because the glazed surface is vast!

There will be a lot of work on the ropes but I think I will do most of this work AFTER the painting, which will save me a lot of contortions!

The flags will be removable and interchangeable and I will make a series (French, Imperial German, British, Japanese, Imperial Russians, White Russians, Bolsheviks, etc ...)

Note the "shielding" of some parts of the hull simply represented by "rivets" made with pins planted in the cardboard shell (only the rounded pinheads are visible which is perfect).

Anchors are Playmobil anchors! (The dimensions are perfect, and it saves me money, but I do not tell my kids). Note that for now they are only "patafixées" (I will mount the ropes and chains after painting the hull and planks floor) ...

The fittings come mainly from Reviresco and TVAG.

For the crew, I think to use the French sailors and naval officers from "Gringos40".

For the livery I feel: these ships were usually painted white in peacetime, but in wartime they were repainted in more sober colors (gray or black). But colonial conflicts were often unannounced and crews did not always take the time to repaint the ship, especially since opponents rarely had an equivalent navy, the need for camouflage being less crucial. In short, I will perhaps give me pleasure by giving a white livery to this ship (and her future companion: a small gunboat inspired by the French "Hache" class).

I advance many ships late nineteenth / early twentieth: I still have to do the gunboat class "Hache", a barge of artillery, an armed tug (model HLBS enlarged and detailed), a small river paddle wheeled ship, and perhaps a torpedoer or even a large gunboat with paddle wheels class "Pluvier" (For the latter 2 it will depend on my place for storage and my material and financial resources). On the other hand, I will surely make some junks that can be used for the renaissance as well as for Tonkin or China during the colonial era ...

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/gunboa10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2596)
(Big paddle wheel colonial gunboat "Pluvier")

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/gunboa11.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2597)
(Little metallic gunboat "Hache" class)

Well, it's true: I concede that to make a big big "Ironclad" it's itching, I would have to do it in 2 parts to be able to put it in my shelves, but hey we'll see, on a whim maybe be ;-)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/bombar10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2598)

To be continued …
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 20, 2018, 05:58:38 PM
Looks great  :)
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Belisarius on September 20, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
You are Sir , a master modeller , par excellence.✔️✔️✔️
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: joekano on September 20, 2018, 06:30:47 PM
That is fantastic looking! Can't wait to see the final product
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: SABOT on September 20, 2018, 06:38:29 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: शेर खान on September 20, 2018, 06:46:27 PM
Well done! Great build!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Lord Raglan on September 20, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
You are a very skilled modeller my friend, well done sir!!!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: warlord frod on September 20, 2018, 07:52:14 PM
well done sir!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: smirnoff on September 20, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
Wow
That is superb
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: marianas_gamer on September 20, 2018, 08:43:48 PM
Really excellent work :-* :-* :-*. You will need a really large table if you field more than one vessel of this size!
LB
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Helen on September 20, 2018, 10:08:38 PM
Excellent work! Looks fantastic, well done.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: S_P on September 21, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
Superb work
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: argsilverson on September 21, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
very nice!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Plynkes on September 21, 2018, 04:33:08 PM
Phenomenal. Looking forward to seeing her with some paint on.

Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Marine0846 on September 21, 2018, 04:51:48 PM
I can only agree with the comments of everyone else.
Love it. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Captain Blood on September 21, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
Good golly, that looks superb  :o :-*
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Bugsda on September 21, 2018, 07:00:57 PM
Genius  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: DintheDin on September 21, 2018, 07:36:49 PM
A masterpiece is coming out! Perfect geometry and you take many congrats for the prow!!!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: odd duck on September 21, 2018, 07:50:44 PM
Wow!Beautiful work !!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: juergen c. olk on September 21, 2018, 08:53:38 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: marco55 on September 22, 2018, 01:02:33 AM
My god man you are talented! :o :o :-* :-*
Mark
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: Braz on September 25, 2018, 11:57:07 AM
WOW!  :-* :-* :-* Amazing nice build.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm)
Post by: WillieB on September 25, 2018, 11:10:23 PM
This some of the most amazing modelling I've seen for years! Congratulations Maestro!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) - Heavy naval artillery
Post by: Byblos on September 29, 2018, 01:22:58 PM
Some photos of the base-coated gunboat:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc310.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2599)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2600)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2601)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc410.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2602)

The wheel-house does not appear because I am going to reduce her size to refine the lines of the ship and to match the real model. Also the  rowboats davits are going to be replaced by models of smaller size.

Furthermore I begin clearly to tilt for a livery rather black that white, I again have to think about it...

I looked of the XIXth artillery (for the XXth it is good I have what is needed) but nothing is found of suitable or to resounding prices, I thus began the construction of French naval artillery of 240mm mle on 1870 in scratch.

Here is the real model:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/canon_10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2603)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/canon_11.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2604)

And the reduced model :

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ha110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2607)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ha210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2606)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ha310.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2605)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ha410.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2610)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ha510.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2609)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/ha610.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2608)

On the gunboat :

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc__c110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2612)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc__c210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2613)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc__c310.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2611)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/13/09/54/58/sc__c410.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/13095458/2614)

I am also going to realize smaller naval pieces of ordnance, from kitbashing of the artillery Dahlgren from Reviresco, I have of whom to make 4.

Well all in all, I have more and more desire to try the realization of a cruiser-battleship of class Galissonière: it is feasible, I am capable of it, it is a big work, but it would be a magnificent and unique model, with a very impressive look ... I shall present the idea in a dedicated subject...

To follow...
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Marine0846 on September 29, 2018, 05:20:09 PM
What a cannon.
Love it.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Belisarius on September 29, 2018, 10:53:04 PM
My flabber has rarely been so ghasted . 😎 . In a word Formidable, maestro.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Wildman II on September 29, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
You Sir are an artist. Truly amazing work.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: marianas_gamer on September 30, 2018, 01:58:44 AM
Very impressive work on the cannon  :-* :-* Fantastic project.
LB
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Sparrow on September 30, 2018, 10:12:04 AM
It looks brilliant
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: RichBliss on September 30, 2018, 04:45:48 PM
Speechless
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Sinewgrab on September 30, 2018, 05:23:27 PM
This is one remarkable piece of kit, sir.  I salute you.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Traveler Man on October 04, 2018, 05:34:36 PM
Amazing!  :o :-*
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: lou passejaire on October 06, 2018, 10:39:28 AM
waowwwww  :-* :-* :-*
impressive work  ...
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on October 06, 2018, 10:46:45 AM
Outstanding piece of work.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: tomrommel1 on October 08, 2018, 09:20:14 AM
very nice indeed :-*
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Byblos on October 08, 2018, 09:58:30 AM
I have began the scratchbuilding of a croiseur-cuirassé (armoured cruiser) classe La Galissonière  o_o

I will open a subject on this ship ...
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: JBaumal on October 08, 2018, 08:18:15 PM
Byblos, this ship model is absolutely incredible. You are a true artist and model maker. I can't wait to see the finished product fully armed and crewed.

How thick is the cardboard you use? Did you use a foam base interior?
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Byblos on October 08, 2018, 11:02:43 PM
Hi JB !

Yes i make aframe with foamboard : i use Canson 3mm thick, the Canson is of very good quality and resist very well to the water-based glue (white glue)

The cardboard is a 1mm thick one
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: tin shed gamer on October 08, 2018, 11:20:58 PM
Sorry
Totally missed the start of this build. Looks like its shaping up to be another lovely build.I do like the way you  scratch build with multimedia and use commercial pieces for ease and speed.

Mark.
 You'll get far less creasing in a card barrel if you precurve the card(the same way you would with decorative 'gift wrap' ribbons ;))Before you curve it to form the barrel.
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Shipka on October 11, 2018, 05:28:17 PM
Excellent work
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: War In 15MM on October 12, 2018, 04:46:58 AM
Excellent work!
Title: Re: Colonial Gunboat 1850-1920 (28mm) [Updtd Sept 29]
Post by: Captain Darling on October 13, 2018, 09:05:07 PM
Marvellous piece of workmanship!

Great looking model looking forward to seeing your further updates!