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Other Stuff => General Wargames and Hobby Discussion => Topic started by: zemjw on September 27, 2018, 09:04:39 PM
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Starting next Friday - 5th October on Channel 5 in the UK
1 of 6 - Challenge series in which teams of the UK's most talented railway modellers compete in a series of knockout heats to create the best miniature masterpieces against the clock.
Not quite sure what it will be like, but there could be some interesting scenery ideas on display
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Wow , really interesting !
We don't have such TV show in France :?
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That definitely wouldn’t be a show in Canada either. Too bad.
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All we get are bloody home renovation or cooking shows, dating competitions and inbred people hunting animals.
Wouldn't mind a bit of train action.
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Nice find, I will be tuning into this! :)
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Not quite sure what it will be like
Bad probably but not because of the competitors :?
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I will try to see this but I am more interested in "Why does everyone hate the English" it starts next week with Al Murray, looks fun.
That is presuming I can get a shot of the telly in between Big brother and Bake off and strictly :'( :'( :'(
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All we get are bloody home renovation or cooking shows, dating competitions and inbred people hunting animals.
Wouldn't mind a bit of train action.
We get a lot of the first three, along with "talent" shows, but no hunting. My TV is on less and less these days, so finding anything to watch makes a welcome change
I just hope they focus on the modelling and not on the personalities involved, although that's probably too much to hope for
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We gave up owning a TV years ago.
So I can only hope this would be accessible online :D
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Last time I watched Channel 5 they were broadcasting a 45 minute long show that was (literally) a compilation of Youtube 'Fail' clips.
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Last time I watched Channel 5 they were broadcasting a 45 minute long show that was (literally) a compilation of Youtube 'Fail' clips.
lol I have to admit, but I actually like those.
On Youtube.
Because our TV decoder/receiver broke down like 3 months ago, and nobody in the house seems to have missed it. it was only after we decided on hiring a babysitter, when we came to the conclusion that we should probably get that fixed, so the girl can watch TV.
And then we realized that a 14 year old girl will probably not watch much tv, but will probalby be sitting, playing around on her phone instead.
But back to our regular programming... ::)
I would actually watch this for the subject matter, but the entire competition thing is a huge turn off for me.
It usually involves some (almost) expert member of a jury, who has to play the bad ass and critisize and verbally demolish everything they see, one semi-celebrity with a passing interest or history with the subjectmatter, so they're there for their name and the occasional encouraging remark only, and the host, who usually has no clue about the subject matter, but can play the good to the 1st jurymember's bad cop.
And then the contestants are required to compete in often assinine competitions, with limited means, adn even less time to do a proper job, so the jury can go to town on the results. Which is the main source of entertainment (or so producers seem to think), because apparently we all love to see somebody else being verbally torn to shreds in front of an audience.
Oh, and then the contestants are of course often thrown into a house or room together, and encouraged to create some animosity between themselves, because that too makes for better ratings. Because we apparently also love to see conflict, even if it is badly acted.
the worst thing is, this formula is being applied to subjects that are not at all suitable for it, and I could not think of one that is less sutable than model train tracks and scenery.
Unless they timelapse entire weeks, there is only very little they can show of an actual build. It's not like baking a cake or doing a tattoo, which can all be done in a matter of hours (mostly).
So the tension and competition will probably come from very limited, on the spot challenges, which will not yield the excellent results we might see from builders having all the time in the world.
But all that aside, I would still watch it (if BBC5 was available here (and my receiver was fixed)), if only because I love seeing anything even remotely related to our hobby. It does not receive much mainstream exposure, so anything helps.
And to counter my arguments above, against the formulaic 'Next Top/Master ..." programs, I should state that this mainly concerns American shows; if there is anyone who might do right to the subject matter, it would be the BBC.
so who knows? It might even be worth watching... ;)
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Thank you for the heads-up. I'll try to catch these.
Tony
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Sadly, it's not the BBC, but Channel 5, home of Big Brother and its variants and a lot of voyeur on the wall type shows.
Not that BBC is innocent in this regard, and the race to the bottom on a Saturday night among the channels is deeply annoying, to the point where I don't even look at the tv listings anymore.
Much of that annoyance is just me being a curmudgen, as I realise that I'm less and less the target audience for things these days :(
Still, I am cautiously optimistic, although I suspect @Daethor's assessment of the presenters will be all too accurate.
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There’s an enormous amount of good TV about to my mind, Killing Eve and Mock the Week spring to mind. There’s also an awful lot I don’t like and the descriptions above fit most of that. So I don’t watch it lol
I’ll have to miss the model railway one at first, hopefully the reviews here will give me an idea if it’s worth catching up with.
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In France, on RMC (Radio Monte Carlo, but it's a TV channel too) we have on Saturday night the good old Columbo , and i like him :)
And sometime on France 3 , the Sunday we have the good old ( or young) Morse, and i like him too ;)
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I'll be watching.
Gets a good write-up in Radio Times. Feature article because RT is 95 and they had a team - I assume from the series - recreate a scene from 1920s'
I think this may be part of "Slow TV" trend. James May fixing stuff. The Repair Shop. An interview I heard last year with a Channel 5 exec explaining that they would move away from "shock" programming because its popularity was waning.
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I work for one of the main sponsors of the show - we supplied most of the scenic items and control equipment used by the teams on their layouts.
I can honestly say that after our initial meeting with the producer his aim is for an affectionate portrayal of the hobby, and a focus on the skill involved to complete the tasks in the allotted time rather than a hatchet job on a load of nerds - hopefully this translates into the finished programme!
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I was going to watch it anyway but that sounds quite promising.
Beats watching out of sequence Big Bang repeats lol
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I imagine the feeling at the end will be of how sadly missed Bob Symes (Robert Alexander Baron Schutzmann von Schutzmansdorff) is.
Intend to watch but more in hope than expectation. :(
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I work for one of the main sponsors of the show - we supplied most of the scenic items and control equipment used by the teams on their layouts.
I can honestly say that after our initial meeting with the producer his aim is for an affectionate portrayal of the hobby, and a focus on the skill involved to complete the tasks in the allotted time rather than a hatchet job on a load of nerds - hopefully this translates into the finished programme!
That does sound reassuring; here's to hoping they manage to do so! :)
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I enjoyed that :)
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Well what do you think ???
I thought it was OK
but PEOPLE cheating :o :o :o
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I watched it.
If anyone's expecting a programme about railway modelling tips and tricks, or expecting to learn anything about making model railways, they're going to be disappointed. There is almost zero content related to actual railway modelling unless you count scratch building with a ladies shoe and lipstick.
If anyone wants a formulaic budget TV programme full of laughable pseudo controversy and jeopardy, with the usual 'interview' snippets of outraged or indignant judges and competitors alongside presenters trying to stir up controversy, then this is the show for them.
The topic just happens to be railway modelling, the format could just have easily been about knitting, taxidermy or morris dancing.
Shame really, a good show on making model railways would have been interesting.
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I quite enjoyed it to be honest, will certainly tune into to next weeks. :)
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I thought it was pure rubbish . Just a gimmick theme , railway set ups pretty average full of silly extras like a Spitfire moving on wire. Nearly everybody was 70 .
I must thank channel 5 for finding Britain's only female model railway expert to become a judge.
2/10.
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Hmmm, I’m a bit on the fence about this after watching it. I’m sort of left not caring whether I see another episode or not. It was neither one thing or another and consequently I can’t imagine any single section of potential audience actually strongly liking it.
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Hmmm, I’m a bit on the fence about this after watching it. I’m sort of left not caring whether I see another episode or not. It was neither one thing or another and consequently I can’t imagine any single section of potential audience actually strongly liking it.
totally agree...thought the idea was great but the execution poor...as for the hosts (umm...)
I reckon a few folks on here could churn out better stuff (excl tracks) in three days from scratch. The Missenden guys really did push the envelope of the rules and I am pleased they got found out
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Shame to hear my initial misgivings and suspicions turned out to be (mostly) true... :?
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Is that a GW model spinning around at the 28 second mark of this clip? o_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T1NhoM7B5M
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It is, and there's a rhino and dreadnaught behind it, along with space marines and tyranids o_o That'll be an interesting episode. Pause at 29 seconds for the full display. It looks like the train has been converted with GW bits as well.
On the first episode, I thought it was good in parts and cringeworthy in parts. I liked the scratchbuilding bit, something the teams all disliked and one in particular hated. However, I think that was the team who considered five separate rows of terrace houses to be one scenery item, so I didn't have much sympathy for them.
The thing that surprised me was how angry everyone seemed to be, especially in the pieces to camera :? If I had thought about joining a model railway club, the attitudes displayed in the episode would have made me think twice.
Still, it was watchable, even if there wasn't much in the way of modelling technique on display, so I'll keep with it for now.
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scratch building with a ladies shoe and lipstick.
Wait... what?!?
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Second episode was seemed better than the first, actually had some modelling content this time.
Enjoyed seeing one of the competitors getting a bit upset when the presenter referred to the layout as a "train set".