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At least that is what I think I will do.
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One of my thoughts too, luckily I have some others as well... :D
Good luck, I'm curious to see what you'll make of it, especially as your other Westerosi religions-themed build was awesome!
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One of my thoughts too, luckily I have some others as well... :D
Good luck, I'm curious to see what you'll make of it, especially as your other Westerosi religions-themed build was awesome!
Don't make me stop you. I have other ideas to, like a Afghan poppy field.
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It does sound an episode of Embarrassing Bodies . how ever I shall I keep watching.
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Don't make me stop you. I have other ideas to, like a Afghan poppy field.
Oh, I am leaning towards a huge beanstalk (&Jack) at the moment.. :D
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Looking forward to this one!
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Don't make me stop you. I have other ideas to, like a Afghan poppy field.
The poppy field idea is out since the afghans did not start cultivating poppy at any larger scale until the 40s.
What to do, what to make...? Old Man Willow? The gallow tree of Gallowsgrey? Arumbayan riverside?
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Make a weirwood :D :D
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Make a weirwood :D :D
Hmmm... I am considering a terraced paddy field to. For my NWF board.
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Changed the title.
Since we are allowed three bases I will attempt a small grove.
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Splendid :)
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So... According to A Song of Ice and Fire canon a Godswood is in Westros nomenclature a forest, park, garden or clump of trees surrounding a single weirwood tree with a face carved into its side. I some cases it is just a single tree. I will make a weirwood tree and two bases of other trees surrounding it.
A very rough sketch of the center weirwood tree.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/WeirwoodTreeSketch.jpg)
In 'front' of the tree, to where the face carving is, well, facing there will be a dark pond, into which the tree is dipping its roots. The tree will be growing on a cliff, which broken sides will be sloping down towards the water.
In the back, below the tree, there will be a small cave with a skelleton, overgrown with tendril roots.
So from where will I source my material, I hear you ask. Well surrounding our house, the villa Morannon, we have a mighty old hedge with which I make battle each summer. It is an endless source of gnarled twigs and branches which work very well as the boles of old trees.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Hedge.jpg)
And just a quick shot from the hip of the rough cut and size comparison of what eventually will become the weirwood tree.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Twig.jpg)
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Oooohhh! That's going to be sooo good. Just seeing your plans and knowing your talent.... :o
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Looks good Peder. I look forward to visiting your work over time. That's of course I don't melt in this heatwave down-under. :-)
Best wishes,
Helen
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Very promising 8)
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A little bit of progress, getting the basic shape of things in place. I'm not entirely satisfied with the shape of the pool but I suppose it can be amended with some tricks later. I am making a small cave on the opposite side I am placing the tree on a sufficient height above the pool.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/PondBuild.jpg)
The tree is glued to a wood block which is in turn glued to the base. I pinned them all together with a 10 cm screw. I have not decided whether to carve the foam into rock formations , use bark or pile pieces of slate on the thing.
The pink XPS foam is just bulk material so far
I want the pool to be dead calm I am going to glue a a piece of sheet plastic on the bottom of the plywood base.
The outer edges of the base are sanded to a flat angle to make it blend into the game board more smoothly. The edge around the pool is more rounded.
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Pictures or it didn’t happen! ;)
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Pictures or it didn’t happen! ;)
Amended.
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This looks good, I like the gnarled tree already.
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Good start mate! 8)
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Before creating branches and foilage I realize I better get the carved face in place. There are a few glimpses of what these could look like in the TV series...
(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/weirwood.jpg)
Looks alright, but I'd like to see if I can make something even more ethnic looking. I have scoured the internet for various wooden mask to get some inspiration (I may resize the images later)
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/african.jpg)
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/african2.jpg)
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/African3.jpg)
African masks are always cool but they may communicate a southern vibe which may not bee ssuitable for the Children of the Woods who carved these masks.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/burmese_buddha.jpg)
Burmese buddha. Very clean but perhaps a bit too polished.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/cherokee.jpg)
Cherokee. I like the rawness.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Eskimo.jpg)
Eskimo ceremonial. Very clean, simple and effective design.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/green-man.jpg)
Green man. A tree on a tree may be a bit too much.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/impressionistic.jpg)
Impressionistic
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/maori.jpg)
Maori. Perhaps a bit too recognizable as This World iconography.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/naturalistic.jpg)
Modern, naturalistic carving if you ignore the knot. I like this one a lot.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/norse.jpg)
Norse. Rather powerful. I like it a lot, I am Swedish after all...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Papau-newguniea.jpg)
Papau-New Guinea. Very impressionistic.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/roman.jpg)
Roman.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/treeman.jpg)
Green man
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I say go with the Norse.
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The green men for me. But then I’ve always loved them...
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Have you thought of going down the Ent route from Lord of Rings?....
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/ent_zpsvji0acmj.jpg~original) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ent_zpsvji0acmj.jpg.html)
Or even Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy?....
(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/maxresdefault_zpsz2uwtybc.jpg~original) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/maxresdefault_zpsz2uwtybc.jpg.html)
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Groot!
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Groot!
Can O’Beer, my youngest, is positively infatuated with Groot so that’s certainly an option. Plus there is something soul searching in his gaze which fits well with the theme.
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(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/norse.jpg)
Norse. Rather powerful. I like it a lot, I am Swedish after all...
What's not soul searching about this one?
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lol
That soul searching gaze reminds me of you Peder ;)
The long days staring out across the Baltic Sea...
:D
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I like both the Cherokee and the modern one with the top knot.
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Green men- the last one looks a lot like Groot already. Or mix the elements you like best from each.
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At the time I was reading the books I was in Norway, and therefor my imagination of (atl least northern) westeros is influenced by the norse culture. My vision of septs is heavily influenced by stave churches, so I'd definetly go with the norse.
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I have prepped the trunk of the weirwood for sculpting of a face...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Weirwood_face_eyes.jpg)
...using the old trick marbles/lead shot for eyes. I don't want them to be just holes. I've have since then scuplted the actual face but I don't have a pic of it yet. But I did some work on the branches, bulking out the weirwood like so...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Weirwood_extra_branches.jpg)
...and so...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Weirwood_more_branches.jpg)
These branches will be joint with airdrying clay to seemlessly integrate them with the main trunk of the tree. The branches will be fleshed out even more with thinner wire branches , using...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Wires.jpg)
...wires of various dimensions. I find that especially stock twisted brass wire for hanging paintings is particularly useful. The larger branches are made with florists aluminum wire.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Wire_branches.jpg)
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Looking good.
Will the foam foundation be able to handle the weight?
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Well, yes. The trunk is glued/screwed to a wooden block.
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Brill 8)
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Looks really good already.
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I love gnarled shapes of the branches you've achieved already! 8)
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Very nice shape you've got on that tree.
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A few modest progress photos of, well, some modest progress.
This is how I have cut our a rectangular depression to fit a styrene sheet for the absolutely calm pond water. I quite quickly realized that this was a much less than optimal construction plan. It would have been much smarter to cut out the pond shape from 3mm plywood and then laminate it with 3mm MDF. Oh well. I suppose this will do to.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/BottomOfPond.jpg)
You may have heard of my proclivity for making a blood sacrifice to the Gods of the Workbench every fucking time I make something? Well, it happened this time to. I rammed the chisel into my index knuckle... :?
Anyhoo, this is what it looks like with the styrene sheet fitted.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Pool.jpg)
Doesn't look like much now but I am confident that with sufficient tarting up it will all be fine. As you can see I've sculpted a face onto the trunk to. I will post a closeup when I find it. I am not 100% content with he sculpt so I may 'refactor' it.
As I wrote in a previous post I will hide the bones of a wicked old greenseer beneath the roots of the weirwood. To be able to construct and paint this in a convenient way I will make it a separate module which will slide in place in a slot once it is completed and then make it blend in to the whole terrain piece. The skellie will sit on a rock throne, entwined in root tendrils...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/throne.jpg)
There is some funny lack of depth in this photo making it look a mess. I've made a frame of styrene sheet which I've dressed with small pieces of slate, using Das Pronto as mortar. I trying to shape the clay into roots and tendrils. The result looks a bit weird in the images, I will amend this with Milliput or green clay (or a mix of them both) later. Airdrying Das Pronto is useful, but it is a bit too course for fine sculpting
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Looks amazing :o
The blood sacrifice will assure you the success, I'm sure :D
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Some further work on the greenseer cave.
I put together the remains of a greenseer with GW plastic and Eureka metal parts. If you, like I do, have access to a bitz box in your local store you can fine really useful things there. And you all know there is no dearth among GW bitz when it comes to skulls and bones...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Greenseer_skellie.jpg)
The skellie is seated on a throne like structrure. A quick paintjob, base coat of burnt umbre, highlited successively with ivory and white.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Painted_skellie.jpg)
The whole module in it's slot under the roots of the weirwood.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/InPlace.jpg)
I will put a roof on the cave eventually. And roots, starting with...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Roots.jpg)
...more bitz, this time from various GW Wood Elf kits (or whatever the hell they are now called in that AoS universe).
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Roots_cover.jpg)
It may seem odd to you that I use plastic bitz for roots. The reason is that they are quick and easy to glue together...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/RootGrate.jpg)
...to a single 'grate' which you can paint and put in place as one piece.
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Looking good Peder, lovely work.
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Have to agree! Cool stuff, definitely keeping an eye on this for inspiration and ideas!
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Great progress but I'm afraid I lol when I heard this...
You may have heard of my proclivity for making a blood sacrifice to the Gods of the Workbench every fucking time I make something? Well, it happened this time to. I rammed the chisel into my index knuckle... :?
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That's looking really good. I'm impressed with the work on the greenseer.
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Loving this Peder. An ingenious and multifaceted creation :-*
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Turning out great in my opinion, I love the gnarly roots.
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Brilliant! :-* How are you going to tie in the roots around the Greenseer to the main trunk? He looks a bit off centre in the third pic.
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Cracking stuff!
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Brilliant! :-* How are you going to tie in the roots around the Greenseer to the main trunk? He looks a bit off centre in the third pic.
Oh, there is going to plenty of 'rooting' going forward. I will sculpt them, thin and thick, spreading out from the main trunk. Haven't decided which clay to use. The surface texture of Das Pronto is good but I am not entirely saticfied with it's viscosity. it is basically paper mash and contains a lot of fiber. I may opt for the milliput/greenstuf mix. Or maybe do what you did last year with his Statue of liberty: make a basic sculpt with DP and dress it with greensuff. Or I could make the bulk of the thicker roots with aluminum foil... As you can tell, I am open for suggestions.
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Thanks, all, for the encouraging comments. Makes it more fun. :)
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I've been working on the cliff, after having decided to go for the cut-up-the-foam method.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/treeroots.jpg)
I've laid out the main roots, using Das Pronto. As I have said before, this clay doesn't readily lend itself to fine sculpting. But it is cheap, and can be used to bulk out rough forms. I will accentuate them with a even more complex mesh of finer, branching roots by using greenstuff/miliput.
Just an image of the cliff at the back of the tree.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Baksida.jpg)
I will have to cut down the shards of slate which reach too high above the cave module and put one piece atop as a roof. A few thick roots will then be sculpted to embrace the thing.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/face.jpg)
A closeup of the face. It is really an important identifier of a weirwood so I will take a long heard look at it to decide if I will leave it as it is. Your input is welcome.
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Love it :-*
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Awesome.
Face is perfect - maybe the brows need to extend inwards a little (but retain that triangular shape: "=> <=" instead of the current "> <" if that makes sense). He/she looks too friendly.
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The face is great.
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:-* That is going to be a masterpiece.
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I realize I have assumed that everyone here knows what 'weirwood' is. That's fan boy mentality for ya...
In case someone doesn't, and also gives a shit, here's a short description:
A weirwood is a kind of occult tree which grows throughout the lands of Westros, as concocted by the fantasy writer G.R.R. Martin in the 'A Song of Ice and Fire" series. The trees have been used as places of worship and gathering throughout history, first by the so called Children of the Forrest (some mostly extinct pygmy elf people) and later by the First men.
The weirwood has a magical capacity of integrating time and space. A magician (and apparently some animals) with certain innate powers can see through time and space when connecting with the tree ( a bit like when James Cameron's Avatars connect using their LAN-cable tails with certain trees). Some of these magicians are said to have the 'greenseer' ability.
In days long past weirwoods grew in groves or forests called Godswoods. Later villages, towns and citadels grew up around these centers to finally incorporate one live or dead tree in their parks or gardens. Many weirwood have been cut down as the wood is very valuable.
In the North, weirwoods are still places of worship and ceremony.
The trees are said to have smooth bone white bark and wood, red leaves and blood red sap. Weirwood which are center for godswood have faces of various expressions carved into their sides. These faces apparently continuously weep and drip red sap.
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I'd cut that sucker down and use it to make coffee tables. For my coffee table books. :P
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I'd cut that sucker down and use it to make coffee tables. For my coffee table books. :P
Thats the spirit!
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Really well done, the face looks great.
In the setting of the book, how many of those trees still exist, roughly? Are they common?
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Really well done, the face looks great.
In the setting of the book, how many of those trees still exist, roughly? Are they common?
I understand they are pretty rare, especially in the south, due to them being uprooted and burned by followers of an other religions (the Faith of the Seven, Lord of Light). Most descriptions are of a solitary tree in a walled sanctuary or a grove of other type of trees. Where there once seems to have been hole groves of them, there, at the time of the books, seem to be only one in or around each place of importance (except in a place called the Isle of Faces which has a whole forest of them, carved faces and all).
Sorry for going all nerdy on you but research feeds the inspiration when building something like this.
As GRR Martin notoriously searched for cool things and events in Our World history, I think he has taken the inspiration from sacrificial oaks or ashes of the vikings and perhaps celtic druids. The carved faces seem to be of his own invention.
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Cool, thanks. I appreciate the nerdy attention to detail. I research my projects as much as I can :)
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Cool, thanks. I appreciate the nerdy attention to detail. I research my projects as much as I can :)
I've noticed. :)
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I have started to work on a the finer mesh of roots and drawn some conclusions from it...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/finerRoots.jpg)
The Das Pronto doesn't do it's job. The substance shrinks and dries without 'biting' into the underlying material. Some roots have broken off as I worked on them.
For the finer roots I've used a mix of miliput and greenstuff. It has not been quite satisfactory either. It sculpts OK, but is not sticky enough.
As XPS is a bit too slick I will give it a coating of glalc before I start anew, hoping it will create a better grip for the greenstuff I will use in its unadulterated form going forward.
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Could you stick pins into the foam following the path of the roots so that a few mm is sticking out and sculpt around the pins using them as anchor points?
Does that make sense?
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Could you stick pins into the foam following the path of the roots so that a few mm is sticking out and sculpt around the pins using them as anchor points?
Does that make sense?
It make senses, and I could. Especially for the lager roots.
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It make senses, and I could. Especially for the lager roots.
Lager roots? Gotta get me one of them beer trees. lol
(sorry)
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Lager roots? Gotta get me one of them beer trees. lol
(sorry)
Glad to see you're on the mend, old bugger. >:D
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Ha ha. Less of the "old", please. I had a letter from the NHS the other day pertaining to my treatment, informing me of an upcoming appointment at the Geriatrics department. Geriatrics? I'm not even fifty!
Bloody cheek. ;)
Can't wait until this is done. Loving it so far. Those spooky trees are one of my favourite things from the Ice and Fire world.
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I used DAS Air drying clay for some of my tree roots and it seemed to work ok. It bonded to the surface with a little wetting. Afterwards I gave it a light brush with superglue along the contact edge.
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I like the pin idea to hold roots in place.
Glad to see you're on the mend, old bugger. >:D
Yes, good to see!
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Progress report, photos shot with my smarthone:
This is the final version of the dead greenseer before I fit her/him and his cave into the base...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/DeadGreenweer.jpg)
As you can perhaps see, I've scaled down on the number of roots enshrouding him. I wanted the skeleton to be more visible, or what would be the point.
I fitted the cave by hotgluening pieces of slate around it.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/GreenseerCaveFitted.jpg)
You can in this picture also see how I have airbrushed the cliff in several shades of slate grey. Another picture from above...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Slates.jpg)
I got a fresh pack of Das Pronto to sculpt the main roots and the freshness apparently matters. It was much easier this time. I baked the hole think in low heat for a while to speed up drying time.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/MoreDasProntoRoots.jpg)
As I've said before, Das Pronto doesn't lend itself to fine sculpting so all fin roots are made with green stuff.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/GreenstuffRoots1.jpg)
I want it to look like the the weirwood is *really* grabbing onto the cliff. and shooting its roots deep into the earth. I hope I've managed that look.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/GreenstuffRoots2.jpg)
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Excellent 8)
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Lovely! The roots look brilliant.
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That's amazing :-* ...and not completed yet.
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Nice work on the roots - really organic.
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I'm liking the texture on those roots! 8)
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I'm liking the texture on those roots! 8)
According to cannon weirwood have smooth bark, probably like beech trees, but I figured "fuck it, I want it to look interesting".
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That looks fantastic!
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According to cannon weirwood have smooth bark, probably like beech trees, but I figured "fuck it, I want it to look interesting".
Totally agree!
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This is probably my last update before I submit my entry (...to myself).
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/FinalBuildPicture.jpg)
I have dipped all wire branches into a dark licorice emulsion wall paint- The wall paint helps concealing the branches from the twisted mess of wire that they are. The wall paint dries thick but slightly elastic. I have mounted them on the main wood branches, which will remain detachable for a while yet to simplify airbrushing.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/BuildSomething/2019/Leaves.jpg)
I have ordered two leaf punches from Green Stuff World. The first one produced leaves which were suitable for 1/48 according to specs but were too small for my taste. I will punch leaves using both.
Punching paper from one color paper will not do. I will try sourcing paper of a couple of nuance and perhaps sweep them with an airbrush for some further differences in color. I am a bit in two minds if they should be matte or glossy.
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Looking good.
Tony
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Coming together nicely!
Lon
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Looking very good at the moment, will it be going on holiday with you?
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Very fine 8)
Matt leaves I think, glossy wouldn't look right at such a small scale.
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For the leaves I'd suggest using the paper from coffee filters! Crinkly and with texture, and if desired able to be painted.
Project looks cool though! :o
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Lovely work.
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For the leaves I'd suggest using the paper from coffee filters! Crinkly and with texture, and if desired able to be painted.
Project looks cool though! :o
Thanks! I will consider that. I sounds like they would be suitable for wizened leaves, I am going for a healthy tree here.
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Thank you for your encouraging comments people.
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Cracking looking tree! :o :-* I can't wait to see it finished!
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Thanks! My hand is getting sore from punching out thousands of leaves. But I think it will look good. I am trying to find a mix of colors which make the foliage look deep red but still has some variation.
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I had a lovely day trip today, down memory lane and into the land of bilingual sign posts. First to the Elan Valley, where there are a collection of about half a dozen rather spectacular dams all within close proximity (yes, in this country we drive to look at dams), then to the ancestral family home of Cwmystwyth and thence westwards to the sea for fish and chips on the front as is traditional.
Anyway, the reason I'm posting is that on a brief stop-off in Pontarfynach (Devil's Bridge) I saw something and thought of you, H.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/163-240219203115.jpeg)
Turns out they have a Godswood there, so it seemed only right and proper to pause to pay respects to the ancestors. Just thought I'd post it. If it doesn't give you inspiration for the project then at least it might bring a smile to your face.
Winter is definitely not coming, mind. Might be February, but it felt more like May or June. Bloody lovely day.
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That’s really, great Dylan. Is it a collecton of carved trees or just one?
By the way, is that the same unpronounsable Pontarfynach which is the locatio. Of the first series of ’Hinterland’?
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Looking lovely Peder.
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By the way, is that the same unpronounsable Pontarfynach which is the locatio. Of the first series of ’Hinterland’?
Yeah, that's what they say. Haven't seen it myself, but my brother is a big fan.
It was in the wooded grounds of the station of the heritage steam railway that goes to Aberystwyth, there's a nice little shop and cafe there too. There were other wood carvings there. Statues of animals and such, but if there were any other faces on trees I didn't see them.