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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Unlucky General on February 03, 2019, 02:17:11 AM

Title: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: Unlucky General on February 03, 2019, 02:17:11 AM
Comrades,
I was going to add to the previous thread but the site warned against it so here is the new thread. Several months back I asked about building you own Roman testudo for the Marian reform (Ceasarean) period of the late republic in 28mm. There were some very helpful discussions but of particular assistance was tyrionhalfman who posted an image of his model built from Wargames Factory 28mm plastic Romans.
Tyrionhalfman very generously sent me his photos which I have used as vital reference for my own testudo project. Using the same figures I have followed tyrionhalfman's lead and developed a model using only 14 miniatures to represent a 24 figure Roman cohort in testudo formation.
I have built the test model and am about to start painting. Part 1 of this project is now on my blog: https://unluckygeneral.blogspot.com/2019/02/caesarean-testudo-part-1.html (https://unluckygeneral.blogspot.com/2019/02/caesarean-testudo-part-1.html)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gG0fTyMja0I/XFZGPKRWDhI/AAAAAAAADV0/9ipTlWyud-4lks4oU5Yks8MNuGpjhV57gCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_7351.JPG)
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on February 03, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
Very clever!
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: jambo1 on February 03, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
Interesting read, enjoyed it thoroughly.  :)
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: williamb on February 03, 2019, 11:20:23 PM
Looks good, but I see what looks like 20 figures and 24 shields.
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: tyrionhalfman on February 04, 2019, 11:38:00 AM
Nicely done. Gluing your ‘roof’ shields together has made them a lot more uniform and neat than mine. Wish I’d thought to use less bodies, your ways a lot more economical. Well done :)
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: Belisarius on February 04, 2019, 12:29:50 PM
Looks good, but I see what looks like 20 figures and 24 shields.
14 x figures and 20 x shields , surely.  Brilliant idea , I love it . That’s the beauty of kit bashing plastic figures for these little projects. Well done ✔️ .
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: Unlucky General on February 04, 2019, 10:14:04 PM
Hey tyrionhalfman, you are right that the shield roof is neater and more uniform but it is also less realistic than your model - yours looks like what it is and should be - human beings imperfectly making it work. Mine is a compromise but I might look at mixing it up a bit with future versions. I've seen a model somewhere with a bloke sticking his head up - peaking out through the shield roof - I rather liked it.

Sounds like there's some mathematical confusion about this particular build. I can assure everyone this is a 14 figure build. Four in the front rank, four on each flank and two in the rear - that's 14 to my mind. The front four and both four figure flanks have a shield each and the roof is clearly made of 12 shields - 4+4+4+12=24. If you read the posting the first image is the start of the experiment - not the final result.
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: williamb on February 05, 2019, 03:25:35 AM
Hey tyrionhalfman, you are right that the shield roof is neater and more uniform but it is also less realistic than your model - yours looks like what it is and should be - human beings imperfectly making it work. Mine is a compromise but I might look at mixing it up a bit with future versions. I've seen a model somewhere with a bloke sticking his head up - peaking out through the shield roof - I rather liked it.

Sounds like there's some mathematical confusion about this particular build. I can assure everyone this is a 14 figure build. Four in the front rank, four on each flank and two in the rear - that's 14 to my mind. The front four and both four figure flanks have a shield each and the roof is clearly made of 12 shields - 4+4+4+12=24. If you read the posting the first image is the start of the experiment - not the final result.


I didn't read the blog post.  Just looked at the picture in the initial post and assumed it was a formation 4 figures wide by five figures deep instead of not having the middle six figures.
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: nervisfr on February 05, 2019, 10:49:06 AM
good work !

20 years ago, I have done this for 15mm but with Airfix shields only, for a full stop testudo, not in the move  ;D

less expensive  lol lol
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: bluewillow on February 06, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Great work!
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: Dobbie71064 on February 08, 2019, 09:22:41 PM
good work !

20 years ago, I have done this for 15mm but with Airfix shields only, for a full stop testudo, not in the move  ;D

less expensive  lol lol

Hmm.... I need a couple more 6mm Hastati/ Principes  bases for Impetvs.... Now theres an idea!!  lol

A block of foam with shields sculpted to it  lol
Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: madaxeman on February 12, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
There is a pre-made single-piece 15mm one as well out there in the wild somewhere...   :)

(http://www.madaxeman.com/15mm/albums/romans/normal_IMGP5772.JPG)

https://www.madaxeman.com/15mm/displayimage.php?pid=3197



Title: Re: New Testudo
Post by: Wiegraf on February 13, 2019, 08:53:56 AM
This looks like a great idea - especially since I find Wargame Factory miniatures the ugliest plastics out there. With the Testudo at least the majority of the unit seen will be their shields, which are probably their best asset.

Seriously great work!
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: Unlucky General on March 09, 2019, 05:25:23 AM
Finally finished the complete model. For those of you who are interested in part two of the build, please follow the link.

http://unluckygeneral.blogspot.com/2019/03/caesarean-testudo-part-2.html (http://unluckygeneral.blogspot.com/2019/03/caesarean-testudo-part-2.html)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ca18nsUejJ8/XIL-kUw4BJI/AAAAAAAADhw/9U3NLXulUtAJMeMrDrJsgvTI4iB_EhEgACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_7409.JPG)
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: marianas_gamer on March 09, 2019, 06:51:38 AM
Excellent job! :-* :-*
LB
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: jambo1 on March 09, 2019, 08:38:51 AM
Super looking job, well done!!! :)
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: von Lucky on March 09, 2019, 08:55:58 AM
Awesome stuff. I have a couple of boxes that I didn't think were worth painting - now I see they are.
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: von Lucky on March 09, 2019, 09:10:18 AM
Read through both blog posts - what are the dimensions of the base?
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: nervisfr on March 09, 2019, 09:41:04 AM
you get it !

an amazing final result   :o
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on March 09, 2019, 10:42:16 AM
Wow! That worked really well and the finished model is just splendid.
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: Mason on March 09, 2019, 12:29:42 PM
Wow! That worked really well and the finished model is just splendid.

I have to agree, the final result is most impressive indeed.
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: rumacara on March 09, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
Very well done. :-* :-* :-*
It looks great.
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: Unlucky General on March 09, 2019, 06:21:55 PM
Thanks everyone - you are very generous with your praise.

The dimensions of the base is 70mm x 70mm.

I'll be making another later this year. I recall seeing a model where someone was sticking their head up and peaking out through the top of the shield roof so I'll be ruing to model that.

 For the time being I'm taking a break from building my Roman army and painting more of my Crimean cavalry.
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: tyrionhalfman on March 10, 2019, 10:59:00 AM
Wow  :-* that’s come out great. Well done
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: nervisfr on March 10, 2019, 04:55:50 PM
if you want one idea , here is mine in 15mm.

Cheap version with only one figurine (a half one) and Airfix shields :

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/47287017772_4142bce22e.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: williamb on March 10, 2019, 05:50:31 PM
very nice
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: bluewillow on March 14, 2019, 07:27:10 PM
Fabulous!
Title: Re: New Testudo COMPLETE
Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on March 16, 2019, 10:17:57 AM
if you want one idea , here is mine in 15mm.

Cheap version with only one figurine (a half one) and Airfix shields :

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/47287017772_4142bce22e.jpg)

 :D


First class! lol lol lol lol