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Title: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 07, 2019, 02:20:50 PM
New range coming. ;D :) 
https://www.1898miniaturas.com/en/2019/01/new-range-spanish-tercios-miniatures-28-mm/?fbclid=IwAR2FEXRpeMHzrN30bCOpN2-O-a8W3MAFZojQDkH59uTssifJzgWHOWlhAQ0
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on March 07, 2019, 03:12:53 PM
Great news! I was not aware of this :o
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 07, 2019, 03:25:42 PM
Yes  I use some for my 17th cen. North American project. :-*
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Marine0846 on March 07, 2019, 04:50:42 PM
Interesting.
If their Spanish are as good as their Spanish-American War figures,
we are in for a treat.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Sparrow on March 07, 2019, 05:25:38 PM
Brilliant!

(Presuming you’l be distributing these in the UK via Empress?)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Metternich on March 07, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing them  An excellent start on the sculpt for that pikeman.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 07, 2019, 07:42:12 PM
Brilliant!

(Presuming you’l be distributing these in the UK via Empress?)

I've dealt directly with 1898 and never had no problems.We do have someone in the US that carries them now but I can probably order from 1898 and get my order before the stock arrives in the US.Of course I don't have to deal with the VAT as our friends across the pond does.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Sparrow on March 07, 2019, 09:22:08 PM
Ah, sorry, understood! I thought you were the manufacturer- mea culpa!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 07, 2019, 09:41:11 PM
I wish I was but I'm not but I do have their whole line of Spanish-American War;.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: carlos marighela on March 08, 2019, 12:16:52 AM
That is good news. If they are as good as their Span-Am range these provide be the benchmark. Might be enough to rejuvenate my plans to to the Luso-Dutch wars in Brazil.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on March 08, 2019, 12:00:45 PM
I agree. This is good news. I think there's a real gap in the market for well-sculpted Spanish TYW figures. I do hope that some are in casual poses.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 16, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
There are some wip photos on the 1898 Miniatures website. They look really nice.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 16, 2019, 03:41:41 PM
Yes I saw them,they are very nice.I plan on getting some arquebusiers and musketeers for my Flint & Feather project.I don't know if any pikemen would be in the new world.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 17, 2019, 09:25:10 PM
A few more pics from the 1898 Miniatures FB page :

(http://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64294107_630197067457219_5521690168546820096_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=bc345f89bbc6732d728e6c5e44f3a78c&oe=5DC261B6)

(http://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62340083_630197094123883_3950108463245295616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=b373e37904ba47af739e79f19ecad97d&oe=5D80B213)

(http://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62354470_630197134123879_141985038915862528_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=94d7a8fbd1aa60c222a47ce807270299&oe=5D847E04)

(http://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62586224_630197147457211_8089977369130958848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-cdg2-1.xx&oh=953f89e61eb8f685ca016397f61fb568&oe=5D7FAD6C)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 17, 2019, 09:32:33 PM
Those look good, any timescale on the release
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 17, 2019, 09:39:50 PM
Those look good, any timescale on the release

'Soon' is all the FB page says. I believe the company was looking at a fall release but I don't think a specific and official date was announced anywhere.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 17, 2019, 09:42:01 PM
UK based company?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 17, 2019, 09:43:37 PM
Nope, Spanish. But Empress are their UK stockist.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 17, 2019, 09:45:17 PM
Cool, thanks buddy
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 17, 2019, 10:48:56 PM
They originally said late June but didn't commit. They  said they want to get them right before releasing them.Excellent company in every way.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on June 18, 2019, 07:15:44 AM
They originally said late June but didn't commit. They  said they want to get them right before releasing them.Excellent company in every way.
Mark

Agree!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Cameronian on June 18, 2019, 02:54:50 PM
Certainly look good. 

Thought about putting a tercio together a while back but got put off by the sheer scale of the formation.  Figure ratio was the issue, what to use, 33:1, 50:1?  Too small, it loses the sheer impact of the formation, too large, never complete it.  As it comprised 10 companies of 300 or 250 later, could do it a company at a time I suppose?

In the end I went for the earlier colunella which at half the size at 10:1 still took 150 figures.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 18, 2019, 03:22:43 PM
Super-large formations are not only unnecessary, they are also incorrect for the period. These figures are sculpted with 1630's and 1640's in mind, i.e a period when the Spanish army no longer used the massive Cuadro de Terreno formation.

Pierre Picouët compiled a chart of the evolution of the Spanish infantry squadrons (i.e battalions) between 1600 and 1660, using Pavel Hrncirik and others as his source. His conclusion is that from the outbreak of the TYW onwards, they kept decreasing steadily in size, from an average of 1,300 men per battalion in 1622 at the battle of Fleurus to around 900/1000 in the late 1630's. By the early 1640's, this figure had fallen below the 1,000 mark, Spanish battalions fielding an average of 750 men at Honnecourt and Rocroi in 1642 and 1643 respectively (other sources give an average of 900 men per battalion for Rocroi), and around 550 at Montijo (1644) and Lens (1648).

This is a far cry from the massive 16th century style cuadro de terreno  so beloved of wargamers. Picouët and Hrncirik both insist that such juggernauts were a thing of the past by the 1620's, the prolongado de gran frente being the preferred battlefield formation for the period. Spanish battalions/infantry squadrons would thus deploy 10 to 12 deep with musketeer mangas (sleeves) on both sides of the pike block. The mangas could also be detached and used separately, giving the Spaniards a tactical flexibility that most people tend to overlook (the opposition between dynamic, tactically progressive Protestants and reactionary Catholics who stubbornly clung to their outdated military doctrine is an oft-repeated chestnut which is absolutely not supported by primary sources)   

So the good news is that you don't need massive Spanish units for the period : depending on the troop scale you are using, 24 to 48 figure squadrons will be perfectly accurate for the TYW.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 18, 2019, 03:28:46 PM
.....and how did spanish tactics continue to evolve up to 1660?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 18, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
If you can read Spanish, the latest issue of Desperta Ferro, a Spanish military history magazine, has an article on that very subject :

http://www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/revistas/numero/los-tercios-vi-1660-1700/?fbclid=IwAR2obomUZ3q_tpWJBxuvDeZuQTCyZebJ1nw5hk6nVMpZ81bytOOitmh9Vcc (http://www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/revistas/numero/los-tercios-vi-1660-1700/?fbclid=IwAR2obomUZ3q_tpWJBxuvDeZuQTCyZebJ1nw5hk6nVMpZ81bytOOitmh9Vcc)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 18, 2019, 04:11:03 PM
If you can read Spanish, the latest issue of Desperta Ferro, a Spanish military history magazine, has an article on that very subject :

http://www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/revistas/numero/los-tercios-vi-1660-1700/?fbclid=IwAR2obomUZ3q_tpWJBxuvDeZuQTCyZebJ1nw5hk6nVMpZ81bytOOitmh9Vcc (http://www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/revistas/numero/los-tercios-vi-1660-1700/?fbclid=IwAR2obomUZ3q_tpWJBxuvDeZuQTCyZebJ1nw5hk6nVMpZ81bytOOitmh9Vcc)

does it have puctures?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 18, 2019, 04:15:07 PM
I bought one about Cuba a while back and it's a beautiful magazine but I couldn't read a damn thing! lol
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 18, 2019, 05:43:54 PM
does it have puctures?

Only one diagram showing the organisation of a typical Spanish infantry battalion circa 1685.

If you prefer something in English, try the following link :

http://forum.milua.org/archive/TactiqueUk.htm (http://forum.milua.org/archive/TactiqueUk.htm)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on June 18, 2019, 05:47:58 PM
I bought one about Cuba a while back and it's a beautiful magazine but I couldn't read a damn thing! lol
Mark

I never studied Spanish formally but I found the text pretty easy to understand, even without a dictionary at hand. Then again, I'm a French native speaker, Spanish is a romance language and I also studied latin in my youth, which helps to some extent.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 18, 2019, 06:17:25 PM
New book.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 18, 2019, 06:28:15 PM
Ordered, cheers buddy  ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 18, 2019, 06:36:45 PM
Ordered, cheers buddy  ;)

 ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on June 19, 2019, 07:47:58 AM
does it have puctures?


Yes it does, and is one of the best military magazines I have ever read!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 19, 2019, 09:57:33 AM
Wish it had a English version.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Condottiere on June 19, 2019, 11:47:35 PM
.....and how did spanish tactics continue to evolve up to 1660?

Spanish Tercios 1525-1704 (http://tercio1617.0catch.com/home.html)

The Spanish Tercios 1536–1704 (https://ospreypublishing.com/the-spanish-tercios-1536-1704)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: duc de limbourg on June 20, 2019, 07:08:15 PM
The figures look very good.
But one question: what make them Spanish as they look very universal to me
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 21, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
Probably flags and banners.Maybe some kind of crest  or something on their armor.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 21, 2019, 08:16:23 PM
So what other 28mm ranges are suitable for Spanish in this period?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 26, 2019, 05:53:17 PM
My book arrived today, it's full of interesting info  :D

(https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=115543.0;attach=101088;image)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Kommando_J on June 26, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
Looking forward to this, I like the bit about them being compatible with warlord games.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 29, 2019, 05:35:25 PM
So what other 28mm ranges are suitable for Spanish in this period?
Tercios Miniatures has a range. https://terciosminiatures.com/product-category/spanish-tercios/
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 29, 2019, 05:42:51 PM
Having almost read the whole  Helion book, I am thinking pretty much any ECW range will fit the bill for 1672 Dutch Wars
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 29, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Must be a very good book as you have had it only 2 days. :-*
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on June 29, 2019, 06:24:13 PM
Must be a very good book as you have had it only 2 days. :-*
Mark

In fairness, it is thicker than other titles in this series
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 29, 2019, 07:20:33 PM
If anyone wants to buy some Tercios Miniatures Spanish, please PM me. I have some I'll never get round to using, and I was going to put them up on eBay when I get round to it.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on July 18, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
Anybody heard anything.It's been very quiet. I want some Moros too.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on July 18, 2019, 08:37:41 PM
They haven't announced anything because they probably have nothing to announce yet : chance are, the good people at 1898 Miniaturas are still working on the range to get everything sculpted and moulded for a proper release. You'll hear from them when they are ready.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on August 15, 2019, 02:42:29 AM
The last thing they said was maybe in September.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: cahrn on August 15, 2019, 03:32:41 AM
Nice looking range! It's definitely tempting, though I'm not sure what I'd game with them.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on August 18, 2019, 01:43:41 PM
I have the Flint & Feather range (17th cen.) pre contact indians but they will soon to be first contact indians as French,English & Dutch figures are soon to be added to the range.These Spanish are going to come up from Florida to see what the hell they are doing there. :o  lol
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on August 30, 2019, 10:33:57 PM
1898 Miniaturas has said maybe October/November for the first releases.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on August 31, 2019, 08:44:22 AM
Nice looking figures. I'm sure I'll find a use for a few!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on August 31, 2019, 09:43:58 AM
In their facebook page, they have announced that they will show the greens of the arquebusiers and musketeers too. Now, this is a nice touch. Usually, manufacturers don't bother to differentiate between the two weapons.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: carlos marighela on September 01, 2019, 02:38:24 AM
One would hope that they will organise the pike sensibly, by pose. Otherwise you end up with a hodge podge or buying an endless number of packs to get your serried ranks.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 01, 2019, 02:18:08 PM
Pics
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Metternich on September 01, 2019, 02:21:45 PM
Those are some beautifully sculpted figures.  I need more 17th century figures "like I need a hole in the head,"  but that said I am sorely tempted.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 01, 2019, 02:27:22 PM
I know what you mean. lol
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 01, 2019, 02:29:35 PM
A few more,
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Friends of General Haig on September 01, 2019, 09:13:32 PM
These continue to look stunning. Would definitely want some in my collection. The figures and uniforms look great, but a bit confused by one or two of the poses if they are intended to be carrying a pike.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on September 02, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
I wonder whether the men in boots are intended to be officers / gentlemen.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on September 02, 2019, 08:24:03 PM
I wonder whether the men in boots are intended to be officers / gentlemen.

Not necesarily. Boots were a prestige item; it was used to show status and wealth, in the Spanish units. A common soldier would purchase boots, feathers for his chambergo, sashes, ecc, only to show other soldiers that he was successful and a "hidalgo", i.e. he was noble and didn't need to work for a living -war wasn't considered a job per se-. An hidalgo was something similar to a yeoman or to the Polish petty nobility. Bottom line is that you don't need to assume that a Spanish soldier with boots was an officer or an adventurer gentlemen -although he could be-, only that he was (or pretended to be!) financially successful.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on September 02, 2019, 09:53:00 PM
You got to love a Spanish peacock  ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on September 03, 2019, 06:52:57 AM
Many thanks Antonio. Interesting. In the German infantry units in my little collection, the ordinary soldiers wear shoes and only the officers wear boots.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 13, 2019, 08:35:07 PM
More pics up on FB page.  https://www.facebook.com/1898miniaturas/
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 14, 2019, 01:04:02 PM
1898 Miniaturas is at Freak Show Madrid with some painted samples of their new Tericos line.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on September 14, 2019, 02:10:07 PM
These look really nice.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on September 14, 2019, 11:35:36 PM
Cool!!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 16, 2019, 10:39:05 AM
Beautifully painted.I wonder if those pikes come with the figures or if you have to buy them separately.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 18, 2019, 03:33:37 AM
Should be coming soon. ;D
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on October 18, 2019, 07:40:18 AM
Looking forward to it
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on October 26, 2019, 07:59:52 AM
They have revealed new sculptures. Musketeers, this time.

(https://i.imgur.com/Gz77yPo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7Car0X0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jJ6KJMp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FaRs10i.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 26, 2019, 09:35:13 AM
Looks good 👍
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on October 26, 2019, 09:38:56 AM
Superb
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on October 26, 2019, 10:02:49 AM
Now they are excellent sculpts!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on October 26, 2019, 10:04:36 AM
Now they are excellent sculpts!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Indeed! The chap blowing his match is outstanding!  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on October 26, 2019, 11:45:06 AM
And a few more pics!

(https://i.imgur.com/pepsRLA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2g1sI5K.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/F2wCqBj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wFgoDEb.jpg)


I must say that these are models full of character, and very well researched. The sculptor, José Hidalgo -who worked back in the day for Beneito Miniatures, specialists in 54s- has counted with the advise of some of the leading Spanish scholars in the Tercios.

I am wary to call a range "definitive", but I strongly suspect that this one could be considered as such once is finished. According to the chaps at 1898 Miniatures, if everything goes according to plan, it is possible we will see the first release around Christmas time.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 26, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
These look great. ;D The wait is killing me! :-* lol
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on October 26, 2019, 01:15:08 PM
These are the most animated mini's I've seen in 28mm for the 'period' by a royal mile!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Keep up the brilliant work!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on October 26, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
Will the company have a UK retailer?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on October 26, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
Will the company have a UK retailer?

I believe that Empress Miniatures carries their ranges in the UK
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on October 26, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
I believe that Empress Miniatures carries their ranges in the UK

Of course. Part of the 1898 miniatures range.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 26, 2019, 05:38:55 PM
Badger carries them in the US.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Wiegraf on October 27, 2019, 03:23:13 AM
Oh, great news on these minis. I just ordered some Warlord War of Religion Spainish to use in the 30 years wars as a mix of mercenaries, but these will probably be better!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on October 27, 2019, 06:36:42 AM
Oh, great news on these minis. I just ordered some Warlord War of Religion Spainish to use in the 30 years wars as a mix of mercenaries, but these will probably be better!

Perhaps the owners of 1898 Miniatures could do some sort of comparison shot with the 1898 greens and the Warlord stuff? ;) :)

That would be extremely helpful in terms of future transactions.

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Arthur on October 27, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
According to the 1898 Miniaturas FB page, the first ten packs in the range should be out pretty soon - no date yet though.

Oh, great news on these minis. I just ordered some Warlord War of Religion Spainish to use in the 30 years wars as a mix of mercenaries, but these will probably be better!

The Warlord (ex-Arsenal) figures are lovely Paul Hicks sculpts but they were originally produced with the siege of Malta in mind, so are really suitable for the 1560 to 1590 period - meaning they are way too early for the Thirty Years War. By 1600, the style of clothing they wore - the breeches in particular - had gone out of style and would no longer be seen on the battlefield, even if one allows for the continued use of older fashions for a decade or two after they went out of favour. The 1898 Miniaturas figures, on the other hand, are actually designed for the 1618-1648 era and wear the appropriate type of clothing for the period. Pierre Picouët's recent Helion book on the Spanish army of the TYW is a useful English-language resource if you want to know more about the evolution of Spanish uniforms. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on October 27, 2019, 06:24:05 PM
I am thinking these will make some great spanish miltia units for my 1672 games
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 27, 2019, 06:25:45 PM
They are hoping to have these out by Christmas.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: westwaller on October 27, 2019, 07:47:43 PM
There are some great looking models there. Are the elongated musket barrels just a sculpting/casting thing or are they something else?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on October 27, 2019, 08:16:19 PM
There are some great looking models there. Are the elongated musket barrels just a sculpting/casting thing or are they something else?

Casting.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: carlos marighela on October 27, 2019, 11:32:44 PM
Very nice figures, don’t get me wrong but if you look at the quality of the sculpting on the faces and other aspects with their hands, it’s almost as if two different sculptors were at work.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on October 28, 2019, 09:42:20 AM
I am thinking these will make some great spanish miltia units for my 1672 games

Hi mate, for 1672 militia, I'd use, apart from some TYW miniatures like these from 1898 miniatures, some Warlord ECW clubmen, and Warfare Miniatures "Rebels", Imho...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on October 28, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Cheers Jose, that's helpful to know.

Gareth
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Curassier on October 28, 2019, 07:17:30 PM
For planning purposes in advance does anyone have any suggestions as to how to represent the Tercios for this era on the tabletop? (Ideally without dozens and dozens of figures per battalion.) Also what rules might be best ?
Curassier
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 02, 2019, 08:05:52 PM
For planning purposes in advance does anyone have any suggestions as to how to represent the Tercios for this era on the tabletop? (Ideally without dozens and dozens of figures per battalion.) Also what rules might be best ?
Curassier

Ha! I was about to ask the very same question!!

What rules would best represent the battles of the TYW with a leaning towards a large number of miniatures in a 'unit'?

I know about Tercios but I've leaned that it has Impetus size bases which I would rather avoid if possible.

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on November 02, 2019, 09:49:36 PM
An ECW set of rules would be my best suggestion, but I don't see how you can get away from large groups of miniatures in a pike block
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 02, 2019, 10:03:29 PM
An ECW set of rules would be my best suggestion, but I don't see how you can get away from large groups of miniatures in a pike block

That's precisely what I want- large groups of miniatures ;) :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on November 03, 2019, 09:11:49 AM
In that case, these rule sets would be my recommendation for big battle games:

Pike and Shotte (Warlord Games)
The Kingdom is Ours (Bicorne Miniatures)
To Fight Another Foe (Caliver Books)

Gareth
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 03, 2019, 09:15:27 AM
In that case, these rule sets would be my recommendation for big battle games:

Pike and Shotte (Warlord Games)
The Kingdom is Ours (Bicorne Miniatures)
To Fight Another Foe (Caliver Books)

Gareth

Gareth,

Do you think This Kingdom is Ours wins over Pike and Shotte?

I imagine it being less generic would have a better period feel? (Having not read the book I have no idea)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 03, 2019, 10:54:53 AM
Have you checked Twilight of the Divine Right? It is specifically designed for the TYW period.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 03, 2019, 12:00:14 PM
Have you checked Twilight of the Divine Right? It is specifically designed for the TYW period.

Thanks Antonio  8)

Actually, this is the first that I have heard of the rule set. Do you happen to know who the publisher is please?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on November 03, 2019, 09:52:05 PM
Gareth,

Do you think This Kingdom is Ours wins over Pike and Shotte?

I imagine it being less generic would have a better period feel? (Having not read the book I have no idea)

I like the way in which The Kingdom is Ours tracks unit status and handles the pike and shotte formations, its a quick play set but you do need to purchase the unit trackers separately. The trackers then sit at the back of your units, negating the requirement for any paperwork. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on November 03, 2019, 09:54:15 PM
Actually, this is the first that I have heard of the rule set. Do you happen to know who the publisher is please?

Caliver Books sell them buddy
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 03, 2019, 10:11:18 PM
Caliver Books sell them buddy

i managed to order a copy of This Kingdom is Ours for £6!! Bargain..... :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on November 03, 2019, 10:25:49 PM
It's worth a pop at that price any day
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 03, 2019, 11:12:40 PM
It's worth a pop at that price any day

Yeah, I was quite lucky- found one on evilbay. Literally the fist one I clicked on. Free postage in the UK too.

Bet there's a catch  lol
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 04, 2019, 05:31:54 AM
News from 1898 Miniatures facebook page: the range will be available by late November.

@Atheling

It is published by the Pike and Shot Society. It has been developed from their ruleset Twilight of the Sun King. I think there are some AARs here, in LAF.

Best
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: has.been on November 04, 2019, 07:00:20 AM
Good news about the figures, I fancy a few of them (for a skirmish game. NOT a Tercio!)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 04, 2019, 08:12:54 AM
News from 1898 Miniatures facebook page: the range will be available by late November.

@Atheling

It is published by the Pike and Shot Society. It has been developed from their ruleset Twilight of the Sun King.

Ah, specific Pike and Shotte Society members have been very kind to me in my research for Ravenna so the least I can do is buy a copy of their rules! :)

I think there are some AARs here, in LAF.

EDIT: After a quick search the only AAR's I can find are in 15mm which doesn't really give me a flavour of what the battles would look/feel like in 28mm. I take it that the rules cater for 28mm?

Also, maybe it's time I took this question somewhere else as it's getting quite OT.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 04, 2019, 11:26:03 AM
Ah, specific Pike and Shotte Society members have been very kind to me in my research for Ravenna so the least I can do is buy a copy of their rules! :)

EDIT: After a quick search the only AAR's I can find are in 15mm which doesn't really give me a flavour of what the battles would look/feel like in 28mm. I take it that the rules cater for 28mm?

Also, maybe it's time I took this question somewhere else as it's getting quite OT.

Thanks :)

Although most people use them with 15mm, I don't think they are scale specific.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 18, 2019, 07:05:32 PM
The models have been released today:

https://www.1898miniaturas.com/shop/es/48-miniaturas-tercios-espanoles-28mm
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: mweaver on November 19, 2019, 04:35:13 AM
And they do look lovely! 

-Michael
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Isasi on November 19, 2019, 04:59:58 AM
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 19, 2019, 11:11:04 AM
Wow!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Do you have a date when they will be available via Empress in the UK?

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 19, 2019, 02:40:39 PM
Not really. I can ask Rafa. But I don't believe it will take too long now
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 19, 2019, 05:18:34 PM
Gentlemen
First of all, thank you for opening this tread devoted to the Spanish Tercios! Let me introduce myself, I'm Javier Gomez aka El Mercenario, with my brother Rafael the ones behind 1898 Miniaturas. As you know we were busy producing our new range, devoted to the Spanish Tercios 1618-1648, and I have to thank you also for your patience as it took almost a year to have this first batch, that is already available!

Lots of companies produce "generic" Thirty Years War miniatures, but not all the armies had exactly the same looking. After comprehensive research we decided to start this fine detailed and documented range including lots of variety, as the first batch have two different command groups and up to 24 different armoured and unarmoured pikemen and 24 different musketeers and arquebusiers! To be followed by more infantry, cavalry, artillery and personalities. Some pics attached, more at the website. I hope you like them!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/AoxCmb.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/gIwP52.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/IiH8np.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/Zm70O9.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Juan on November 19, 2019, 06:01:04 PM
Fantastic figures and really nice painting work!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 19, 2019, 06:31:33 PM
Wow! Wow! And Wow!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

What a selection of poses!!!

Will you be doing any pikes levelled?

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 19, 2019, 06:37:58 PM

Will you be doing any pikes levelled?

Definitely!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 19, 2019, 07:18:40 PM
Did the Spanish Army in say Florida have troops with pikes during this time period or were they mostly armed with firearms?
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 19, 2019, 07:41:34 PM
Did the Spanish Army in say Florida have troops with pikes during this time period or were they mostly armed with firearms?
Mark

I guess both pikes and firearms but I'll check with the experts   o_o
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 19, 2019, 07:51:44 PM
Besides the regular packs that could be bought as separate, we have a Premium Collection including one of each codes (10 packs, 56 figures) plus pikes, flags and this exclusive miniature, a veteran of countless fights maestre de campo (Tercio commander).

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/HdWUSs.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/jHaUm6.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 19, 2019, 08:09:02 PM
Definitely!

Brilliant  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 19, 2019, 09:35:15 PM
Thanks. :D
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: nonsuch on November 20, 2019, 01:37:15 PM
These are fantastic
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on November 20, 2019, 04:58:04 PM
These look tremendous. Will there be any musketeers and arquebusiers standing - that is, in casual poses rather than firing / loading ?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 20, 2019, 05:00:31 PM
These look tremendous. Will there be any musketeers and arquebusiers standing - that is, in casual poses rather than firing / loading ?
I also hope you have casual poses.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 20, 2019, 08:17:34 PM
I also hope you have casual poses.
Mark

This is going to be a very promising range  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Curassier on November 20, 2019, 08:19:45 PM
Wonderful figures.
Will you be doing opponents  too ?
Does anyone have some basic info on how units would be formed ?
Would both types of firearm be used in the same unit ? Or does it depend upon time period.
Again rule suggestions would be helpful for a novice in this period.
Thanks
Jon
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: jcspqr on November 20, 2019, 09:25:15 PM
Any idea how these scale up size wise:  Perry/Warlord/TAG/Bicorne?

Jim
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 20, 2019, 10:44:24 PM
Any idea how these scale up size wise:  Perry/Warlord/TAG/Bicorne?

Jim

Hi Jim
I'll post a size comparison pic soon.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 20, 2019, 10:51:02 PM
Wonderful figures.
Will you be doing opponents  too ?
Does anyone have some basic info on how units would be formed ?
Would both types of firearm be used in the same unit ? Or does it depend upon time period.
Again rule suggestions would be helpful for a novice in this period.
Thanks
Jon

Thanks Jon!

Opponents: that's the idea, but would depend on the success of the range. The initial focus was to make Spanish, then will see
Formations: Tercios combined pikemen, musketeers and arquebusiers in the same unit. Pikemen use to form the core and arquebisiers and musketeers formed "mangas" ("sleeves"). Traditionally seems that Spanish Tercios were very rigid formations, but not at all, in fact they were very flexible, with subunits (companies) fighting separate from the main unit, etc. But the usual image is to have pikes in the middle, arquebusiers on one side, musketeers on the other.
Rules: Warlord's Pike and Shot could be a good starting point. Also you have a Spanish ruleset called Tercios, also available in English.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on November 21, 2019, 01:25:00 PM
I'm really excited by the look of these figures and I've placed a small order to see what the figures are like 'in the flesh'. I'll report back when I've seen them. They look marvellous from the photos, but bad experiences in the past with other manufacturers have taught me not to invest too heavily without having first handled the figures. I do hope that the tercio commander becomes available with other deals in the future because I suspect that I'll not be buying the Premium Collection - I really like the look of the commander but musketeers and arquebusiers in action poses just don't fit in with my collection. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 22, 2019, 07:17:57 AM
I've just posted an article at the website on organization and tactics of the Spanish Tercios during the Thirty Years War, available in English. A brief approach in case you know little about this infantry corps. If you gentlemen read it, please send me your feedbacks.  ¡Muchas gracias!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 22, 2019, 10:00:14 AM
I've just posted an article at the website on organization and tactics of the Spanish Tercios during the Thirty Years War, available in English. A brief approach in case you know little about this infantry corps. If you gentlemen read it, please send me your feedbacks.  ¡Muchas gracias!

Thanks  8). This is very much appreciated as a distillation of what the Tercio looked like and how it behaved on the battlefield is certainly of help to a relative novice in this period of warfare  8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 23, 2019, 07:15:46 AM
You know mate, I forgot to ask about the cavalry figures that you might have planned???
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on November 23, 2019, 09:29:42 AM
Presumably no lancers because my understanding is that, although the Spanish retained the lance longer than other countries, they had abandoned it just before the start of the TYW?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 23, 2019, 08:46:01 PM
What is the difference between the musketeer and the arquebusier ?
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 24, 2019, 08:02:01 AM
What is the difference between the musketeer and the arquebusier ?
Mark

The caliver of the weapon used. Musketeers used a heavier caliver, while arquebusiers used a lighter gun.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 24, 2019, 02:55:04 PM
Thank you.I thought the Arquebus was a older type gun.
Mark.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 25, 2019, 06:29:18 AM
Thank you.I thought the Arquebus was a older type gun.
Mark.

Yes, but the name became generic. It was something like what we do with the word "rifle": you can use it for a 1853 Enfield, but also for a M1 Garand.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on November 29, 2019, 02:22:48 PM
My figures arrived this morning, 8 days after I placed the order, which I think is extremely prompt, given that the figures came from Spain to me here in the UK. I think they're tremendous. Below is a quick comparison shot of some figures I had to hand. The figures are, from left to right, Horcata (first release), held in place with a pencil, Steve Barber, Perry, 1898, Horcata (second release, which are a bit taller than the first release) and Warlord Games. I'll certainly be buying some more. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 29, 2019, 05:19:03 PM
Thanks for that Paul  8).

As a quick aside; how do the Hortica mini's
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 30, 2019, 06:03:59 PM
My figures arrived this morning, 8 days after I placed the order, which I think is extremely prompt, given that the figures came from Spain to me here in the UK. I think they're tremendous. Below is a quick comparison shot of some figures I had to hand. The figures are, from left to right, Horcata (first release), held in place with a pencil, Steve Barber, Perry, 1898, Horcata (second release, which are a bit taller than the first release) and Warlord Games. I'll certainly be buying some more.

Thanks mate, you were one day faster than me! Here it is my own size comparison:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/HQqrJy.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: nonsuch on November 30, 2019, 06:11:04 PM
WOW, they are fantastic looking miniatures
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on December 01, 2019, 01:57:21 PM
Javier: are there any books or articles which show the colour of the clothes which Spanish troops would have worn during the TYW? I'm aware that there's an Osprey book, but is there anything else?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 01, 2019, 02:09:14 PM
Javier: are there any books or articles which show the colour of the clothes which Spanish troops would have worn during the TYW? I'm aware that there's an Osprey book, but is there anything else?

I'm preparing a painting tutorial focusing on colours more than painting techniques.

In the meanwhile, google Augusto Ferrer Dalmau El Ultimo Tercio and Augusto Ferrer Dalmau El Camino Espa񯬮 Augusto is a famous Spanish artist who did some superb paintings devoted to the Spanish Tercios. Also recommend to google Augusto Ferrer Dalmau El Milagro de Empel, though its an event of an earlier period (1585) its still useful for colours.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on December 01, 2019, 02:37:20 PM
That's great. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on December 02, 2019, 08:21:28 AM
Forgive me if this question has already been posed- are there plans to release Dutch, French and Swedes as well as Spanish troops?

I realise that any future plans may well depend upon the sales of the Spanish miniatures so what I'm really asking is if this was envisioned?

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on December 02, 2019, 10:19:33 AM
Javier: are there any books or articles which show the colour of the clothes which Spanish troops would have worn during the TYW? I'm aware that there's an Osprey book, but is there anything else?


Hello mate, Helion has an excellent book:

https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/the-armies-of-philip-iv-of-spain-1621-1665-the-fight-for-european-supremacy.php?sid=76e6c53f332fb04fd39036fa5ea2db0f

As a Spaniard, this is the best book I have ever seen in English language, 100% recommended.

Cheers
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on December 02, 2019, 10:21:45 AM
Many thanks Chema. I'll take a look.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 02, 2019, 10:53:25 PM
Forgive me if this question has already been posed- are there plans to release Dutch, French and Swedes as well as Spanish troops?

I realise that any future plans may well depend upon the sales of the Spanish miniatures so what I'm really asking is if this was envisioned?

Definitely it will depend on the success of the ranges, but yes, that's the idea, to create specific figures for each army rather than generic miniatures. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 02, 2019, 10:54:48 PM

Hello mate, Helion has an excellent book:

https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/the-armies-of-philip-iv-of-spain-1621-1665-the-fight-for-european-supremacy.php?sid=76e6c53f332fb04fd39036fa5ea2db0f

As a Spaniard, this is the best book I have ever seen in English language, 100% recommended.

Cheers

Agree, I know the book and its very recommended. ¡Gracias Chema!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on December 03, 2019, 08:55:41 AM
Definitely it will depend on the success of the ranges, but yes, that's the idea, to create specific figures for each army rather than generic miniatures.

That's great to hear  8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on December 03, 2019, 11:08:26 AM
Seconded. At the moment, I don't think that there are any specific TYW French or Dutch figures, although I believe that TAG are hoping to bring some out in the future. Also, imho, and I suspect that others will disagree, I don't think that there is a satisfactory TYW Swedish range available.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on December 05, 2019, 04:27:53 AM
Received my figures tonight.I got 2 sets of the Arquebusiers to go with my Flint & Feather project They are great figures and fit perfectly with my Indians.  :D:D
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: carlos marighela on December 05, 2019, 08:17:00 AM
Some chaps in shirt sleeves or warmer weather clothing might be nice. Arguably the most useful thing the tercios of this period achieved was assisting the Portuguese in evicting the Dutch from Salvador da Bahia in 1625. Being a bit crap at football would have been a disastrous legacy for Brazil. I used to gaze down upon Forte São Marcelo when we lived in Brazil and have always fancied fielding forces for the siege of the city.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on December 05, 2019, 08:45:19 AM
Some chaps in shirt sleeves or warmer weather clothing might be nice. Arguably the most useful thing the tercios of this period achieved was assisting the Portuguese in evicting the Dutch from Salvador da Bahia in 1625. Being a bit crap at football would have been a disastrous legacy for Brazil. I used to gaze down upon Forte São Marcelo when we lived in Brazil and have always fancied fielding forces for the siege of the city.


hahahaha true!!  well 1625 was a veeeeeeeeery successful year for Spain, we say here "Annus Mirabilis" of 1625.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Painter Jim on December 05, 2019, 08:20:39 PM
After purchasing the Cuba range of infantry and as now have assembled and painted the U.S. forces, I can tell you that the quality and detail of the figures are superb.
I would only imagine the same of the new range, and of course I will have to purchase soon.
Even if the line was not to continue at least I would have these excellent models in my collection.
I am still disappointed for not purchasing some FG ACW before they closed up shop.

  Jim
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Aulë on December 07, 2019, 02:08:46 PM
Arrived my miniatures and are awesome! The sculpt is one of the best I have seen and with a lot of diferent type of poses.

Here you have another comparative photo but with different manufactures that we already have seen

(https://i.ibb.co/xqFV61L/20191207-144217.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tk7KnC)

Left to right: " My name is Íñigo Montoya, you killed..." ok ok, Antediluvian; Zenit kensei; 1898; Empress; Tercios miniaturas; Zenit kensei; Tercios, Wargamer.pl (1666 Anno Domine); 1898 and Empress.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 09, 2019, 06:26:09 PM
Hi! Yesterday was the Inmaculada Concepci󮬠a bank holiday that commemorates the Empel Miracle of 1585 (see thread at our social media). But the real miracle indeed was me finishing the first codes of musketeers and arquebusiers! I hope you like the freshly done pictures, the painted musketeers, arquebusiers and command group codes II will follow soon. 

Musketeers I
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(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/RUc1tD.jpg)

Arquebusiers I
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(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/L4taT7.jpg)

Command group I
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Tercio pack I
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/C15kNF.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on December 09, 2019, 07:02:01 PM
Really look good. ;D :-* lol
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on December 09, 2019, 10:38:23 PM
Really look good. ;D :-* lol
Mark

They do indeed!!  :-* :-* :-* ;D
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Hu Rhu on December 15, 2019, 09:46:34 PM
Beautiful painting on those minis and the sculpting is excellent.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on December 16, 2019, 06:24:00 AM
Bought a few last Wednesday. They are beautifully sculpted and the casting is superb. In height they are comparable to Horcata Miniatures, but slimmer.

I hope 1898 Miniatures expands the range with swordsmen and skirmish poses for "encamisadas" (raids), "jinetes-corazas" and, of course, their adversaries, specially Dutch. I can imagine some special sets based on famous paintings, like Velazquez's "Surrender of Breda" or  Rembrandt's "The Night Watch".
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on December 21, 2019, 09:11:30 AM
I placed an order for more 1898 figures on 15th December and they arrived (I live in the UK) on 20 December.  Amazing. However, on 8 December I placed an order for a single Zenit Miniatures figure with Wayland Games. The figure was described as being restocked and available for order. I heard nothing until 18 December, when I received an e-mail from Wayland Games to the effect that it would be several weeks before I received the figure. I wish I'd placed the order direct with Zenit. Wayland Games took payment in full on 8 December.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Costanzo on January 07, 2020, 07:06:05 PM
Good proportions and expressions, fine detailes, natural poses. Very nice!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Marine0846 on January 08, 2020, 05:37:48 PM
Super painted figures.
I love 1898's Spanish America War figures.
These look even better.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on January 27, 2020, 05:36:18 PM
Some pics.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on January 27, 2020, 06:25:59 PM
Oh wow!!!   :o :-* :o :-* :o

Masterful sculpting!!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on January 27, 2020, 06:55:53 PM
Yes they have a world class sculptor. :)
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Metternich on January 28, 2020, 11:41:04 PM
The sculpting is remarkably good - these aren't generic soldiers, but true individuals.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: mweaver on January 29, 2020, 03:35:21 AM
Wow.  Resistance is crumbling.

-Michael
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: WillPhillips on January 29, 2020, 05:51:00 AM
My goodness that's some impressive sculpting!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on January 29, 2020, 09:04:56 AM
Impressive! I am looking forward to get these  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Ragnar on January 29, 2020, 10:08:47 AM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on January 29, 2020, 01:25:12 PM
I happen to find 1898 Miniaturas just as the were starting their company and from day 1 they have been superb in their quality,shipping and customer service.You can't go wrong with collecting their figures.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: cahrn on January 30, 2020, 05:06:03 PM
Wow, this range continues to impress! I'll certainly be ordering some soon.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on February 01, 2020, 03:56:01 PM
Lovely sculpts
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on February 13, 2020, 08:23:46 AM
Gentlemen, dead & wounded miniatures for thee Spanish Tercios range are already available at our website, plus some extra packs

Dead & wounded
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/vbD3st.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/93EUla.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/vs6nzX.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/V6YesV.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/Q3q9KU.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/HnHYPE.jpg)

Scenery pack containing 3 helmets, one hat, one arquebus, one drum and a dog (the now famous Rocroi dog painted by Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau at his El último tercio painting)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/AVNJ46.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/BRBoH0.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/D4cOfK.jpg)

Also, we released a few packs with halberds to use with our pikemen miniatures in small scale actions.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/H992gA.jpg)

Hope you like them!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on February 13, 2020, 08:39:46 AM
 :-* :-* :-*

Great to see a wounded officer(?)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Metternich on February 13, 2020, 07:45:36 PM
Brilliantly sculpted figures, beautifully painted.  Wonderful fodder for a Rocroi diorama.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: ErikB on February 13, 2020, 10:00:39 PM
Very nicely done.  Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: levied troop on February 14, 2020, 07:30:22 AM
Have been admiring this range from a safe distance but those casualty figures are lovely sculpts and very useful - my resistance has crumbled.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2020, 08:33:12 AM
Have been admiring this range from a safe distance but those casualty figures are lovely sculpts and very useful - my resistance has crumbled.

You're not alone  lol

I'm trying to 'keep a grip' and concentrate on one project every day- I've managed thus far- but for how long??!!  ;D ???
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on February 14, 2020, 11:47:54 AM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/93EUla.jpg)

Two forum members try, in vain, to stop each other being tempted by the new range......
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2020, 01:12:24 PM
Two forum members try, in vain, to stop each other being tempted by the new range......

We're doomed to such a fate!  lol
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on February 14, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
 lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: levied troop on February 14, 2020, 01:57:49 PM
You're not alone  lol
I'm trying to 'keep a grip' and concentrate on one project every day- I've managed thus far- but for how long??!!  ;D ???

Substitute six for one and that could be me lol

This forum’s not helping  :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Isasi on February 14, 2020, 02:50:55 PM
I got them.

Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on February 14, 2020, 02:58:14 PM
Well that didn't take long.Great customer service!
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: ErikB on February 14, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
"My name is Diego Montoya.  You killed my father.  I brought my friends.  Prepare to die."
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: has.been on February 15, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
"My name is Diego Montoya.  You killed my father.  I brought my friends.  Prepare to die."

 lol lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on February 19, 2020, 06:33:32 PM
Still doubting about starting a Spanish tercios collection? This pictures may help...

This is the code TE8: Musketeers II, six different models to combine with TE7: Musketeers I to get up to twelve different musketeers!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/XmFKsI.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/prGKEM.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/nrg6Rc.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/bSnPJx.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/T4Kd7g.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on February 19, 2020, 06:37:28 PM
And this is the code TE10: Arquebusiers II, six different models to combine with TE9: Arquebusiers I to get up to twelve different arquebusiers!
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/lFaWV7.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/3qpIdJ.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/sP9V28.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/ZXqCjI.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/vgvyQY.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/dCsLjP.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on February 19, 2020, 06:42:45 PM
As you know, we provide our miniatures in single packs, but also as Tercios packs and a Premium Collection including one code of each, those including pikes and flags.

These are the Tercios packs I & II
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/C15kNF.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/fVCfKe.jpg)

And if you think big, the premium collection is your thing
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/NQmjck.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/eKeveC.jpg)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/jfEakP.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on February 19, 2020, 07:42:02 PM
Oh lordy! They look beautiful!!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I've got to remain as steadfast as possible. Some months ago I did take a good look at the Spanish, Cuban and US forces with a pan to definitely take that on as a project.

But these Spanish musketeers and pike as amazing  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on March 28, 2020, 04:41:40 PM
The Painting Spanish Tercios miniatures in 28mm step by step tutorial is already available at our website, also in English (or what Google translator and myself consider "English")! I hope you could find it useful during these days of confinement. Take care folks, things are getting nasty here.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/Yhy7yl.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 28, 2020, 08:25:28 PM
Best wishes to everyone.Hopefully this nightmare will end soon.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on May 27, 2020, 06:14:28 PM
Ready for the next batch of new releases?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Captain Blood on May 27, 2020, 06:30:04 PM
If it is the pikemen at ‘the receive’ that you previewed on Facebook a little while ago, then si, por favor! They looked great  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on May 27, 2020, 09:02:33 PM
Ready for the next batch of new releases?

Oh yes!  :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Axebreaker on May 28, 2020, 01:07:47 PM
Cracking work! 8) 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on May 28, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
Some painted samples
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/HBL7C0.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/ePN7qs.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/IDDYTu.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on May 29, 2020, 07:40:35 AM
Superb brushwork Javier  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on June 07, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Gentlemen, the new batch of new releases is already in production. You can find the new codes at our online store, shipments of the new releases will be done by June 15th. These new codes include new armoured and unarmoured pikemen attacking, pikemen receiving cavalry and a new Tercio pack, plus two new flags and a bunch of new history and painting articles. Enjoy!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/XuSOj9.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/WmilUs.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/NyLIQM.jpg)



Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: duc de limbourg on June 08, 2020, 06:16:15 AM
These look great!
Do youalso plan to make adversaries as eg French?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on June 08, 2020, 06:36:33 AM
These look great!
Do youalso plan to make adversaries as eg French?

Yes, that's the plan! First we want to complete the Spanish with some artillery, cavalry and commanders and then move to other armies, actually starting by French, also neglected by any other current TYW range.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Friends of General Haig on June 08, 2020, 07:24:08 AM
Those look superb. I realise many people shy away from pikes at the charge , like this, but I love ‘em  :D. 

This is a great range and I’m looking forward to expanding my Imperial forces.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on June 08, 2020, 08:15:30 AM
Yes, that's the plan! First we want to complete the Spanish with some artillery, cavalry and commanders and then move to other armies, actually starting by French, also neglected by any other current TYW range.


Best news ever!

Saludos !!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: James Morris on June 08, 2020, 04:48:50 PM
Superb! Shades of Captain Alatriste.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 09, 2020, 01:09:09 PM
Javier: please may I put in a request for some musketeers and arquebusiers standing at ease. Thanks.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on June 09, 2020, 06:53:23 PM
Javier: please may I put in a request for some musketeers and arquebusiers standing at ease. Thanks.

Hi Paul, not sure about that, I really want to do more poses, but we need to make cavalry, artillery and commanders first. We want to move to other armies also, so can't say nothing for sure...
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: TheDilfy on June 12, 2020, 01:51:35 PM
Hi Paul,............but we need to make cavalry, artillery and commanders first. We want to move to other armies also, so can't say nothing for sure...

Yes please! Any greens of the Cavalry and Commanders?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on June 15, 2020, 07:17:49 PM
Yes please! Any greens of the Cavalry and Commanders?

Not yet... but soon!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: mweaver on June 19, 2020, 02:45:40 AM
Hmmmm... aardtacha tells me it is National Splurge Day today...

-Michael
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on August 30, 2020, 06:54:17 PM
Dear friends
I hope you are all good and enjoyed a good Summer. I'm glad to announce that we will have a new batch of new releases soon for the Spanish Tercios range, including commanders. And as a sample, this preview of the Cardenal Infante Don Fernando, who beat the shit out of poor old Horn at Nordlingen. The miniature is inspired (not to say copied) by the celebrated equestrian portrait by Rubens.

More to follow!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/Mfsfxh.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/ByXYpG.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/QNbX1g.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/E0JY1x.jpg)

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Marine0846 on August 30, 2020, 07:41:43 PM
Very sweet figure.
Love him.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 30, 2020, 07:56:02 PM
Cardenal Infante Don Fernando

Nice mini!

Fantastic paint job.  :-*

Is that the work of Javier?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on August 30, 2020, 09:31:47 PM
Nice mini!

Fantastic paint job.  :-*

Is that the work of Javier?

Yes, this is a work of mine. Gracias!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on August 30, 2020, 10:03:57 PM
Even better then the last batch of releases  :-* :-* :-* :-*

Can't wait to see more  8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 31, 2020, 12:52:14 AM
Yes, this is a work of mine. Gracias!

I'm a great fan of yours. What a splendid brush you have.

Maybe one day I'll drive up to Madrid and buy you a beer.  ;)

Oh... and we can speak in Spanish if you wish.  :D
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Sparrow on August 31, 2020, 06:00:35 AM
A really nice addition to the range!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on August 31, 2020, 06:17:26 AM
I'm a great fan of yours. What a splendid brush you have.

Maybe one day I'll drive up to Madrid and buy you a beer.  ;)

Oh... and we can speak in Spanish if you wish.  :D

Very nice of you but I live in Barcelona, maybe you dont need to drive that far!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on August 31, 2020, 11:37:41 AM
Very nice figure. I'll be buying it when it's released.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 31, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
Very nice of you but I live in Barcelona, maybe you dont need to drive that far!

Okay, thought you had moved.

I live in the Valencian region, so about the same travel time. Every time I have driven to Barcalona I have gotten a multa for speeding.  lol 

Perhaps a high speed train...
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on September 03, 2020, 02:14:05 PM
Every time I have driven to Barcalona I have gotten a multa for speeding.  lol 

So that doesn't just happen to British tourists then?  lol
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 29, 2020, 11:57:56 PM
New releases! Here it is (right on time for Christmas) our new batch of new releases, including commanders for the Spanish Tercios. Sets are now available, orders will be dispatched during the week.

Cardinal Infant Ferdinand of Austria
Set of one mounted miniature inspired in the painting Cardinal-infant Ferdinand of Austria, in the battle of Nördlingen (1634-1635), oil on canvas by Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640), Museo del Prado, Madrid.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8439/6I11US.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/310/Ua4nbU.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3418/Krzfaa.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9302/gU3axB.jpg)

Ambrogio Spinola
Set of one mounted miniature partially inspired in the painting The surrender of Jülich (1634-1635), oil on canvas by Jusepe Leonardo (1601-1652), Museo del Prado, Madrid.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8089/UuVzfF.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9594/dOrStV.jpg)

John of Austria the Younger
Set of one mounted miniature inspired in the painting Equestrian portrait of John of Austria (1648), oil on canvas by Jusepe de Ribera (1591-1652), Palacio Real, Madrid and his anonymous portrait (ca. 1655-1660), Museo del Prado, Madrid.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4151/jOZEP1.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1633/2WH9JD.jpg)

Spanish general and cornet
Set of two mounted miniatures representing a Spanish general (with two options of arms and heads) and a horseman with options to a cornet (ensign) or an escort. The general is inspired in the duke of Feria portrait Socorro de Brisach (1635-1636), oil on cancas by Jusepe Leonardo (1601-1652), Museo del Prado, Madrid.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6440/Cv4S5T.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2371/NsW1Ai.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8504/Pf3exb.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4688/uB25q5.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/7297/u4dQm0.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4223/Y16RCp.jpg)

Spanish Tercios ensigns
Want to add more flags to your Tercios? The pack include new metal flagpoles.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/344/kGpLU5.jpg)

Thirty years Wat cavalry next  ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Sparrow on November 30, 2020, 05:30:31 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on November 30, 2020, 08:44:26 AM
great news!! wonderful miniatures  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 30, 2020, 09:05:32 AM
Superb  :-* :-* :-* :-*

May I ask, what's next? After the Spanish are complete of course :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on November 30, 2020, 09:21:29 AM
Brilliant brush work. I have long been a fan of The Tercios.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 30, 2020, 11:05:14 AM
Superb  :-* :-* :-* :-*

May I ask, what's next? After the Spanish are complete of course :)

You may! After the Cavalry and artillery, the idea is to expand the TYW range to other armies before starting a new period.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on November 30, 2020, 11:07:55 AM
Great looking chaps. :-*

These new releases are all on there way to Empress Miniatures so stay tuned.  ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 30, 2020, 11:39:19 AM
You may! After the Cavalry and artillery, the idea is to expand the TYW range to other armies before starting a new period.

Sorry, my question wasn't very clear; what is next for the TYW after you have finished all of the Spanish?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 30, 2020, 11:40:46 AM
Not sure yet, but I would like to make French at some point.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 30, 2020, 11:44:12 AM
Not sure yet, but I would like to make French at some point.

Thanks, that's fair enough and would fit very well with what you have released thus far  8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on November 30, 2020, 01:51:24 PM
These look marvellous.By the way, isn't it a bit odd that Ferdinard is shown in the painting as wearing 3/4 armour and stockings and shoes, rather than boots?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on November 30, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
These look marvellous.By the way, isn't it a bit odd that Ferdinard is shown in the painting as wearing 3/4 armour and stockings and shoes, rather than boots?

I think it's my mistake, when I painted the miniature I misinterpreted as a stockings and shoes what looks rather like a boothose.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on April 12, 2021, 01:15:50 PM
Not sure yet, but I would like to make French at some point.

Any news on the forthcoming French or indeed the Spanish Cavalry as of yet please?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on April 12, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
love those dandy officer types
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: rumacara on April 15, 2021, 09:25:05 AM
Just saw this thread. :o
I want them. :D
Great miniatures. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on May 01, 2021, 12:39:57 PM
Are there any updates on the TYW range please? Will we be seeing Spanish Cavalry?

Or will you be moving onto other countries?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: waterproof on June 02, 2021, 06:41:30 AM
hello together ,

I ordered from 1898 Miniaturas more than a month ago. Unfortunately I am waiting in vain for a message or my order.
Does anyone have any experience with ordering directly from 1898 Miniaturas ? I have contacted them twice by e-mail, but so far no reply.
This is a pity as I find the miniatures very nice and my plan was to build a Spanish troop under Spinola for Pike and Shotte.

With best regards

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 02, 2021, 07:11:30 AM
I ordered direct from 1898 Miniaturas when they first brought out TYW figures, and had very prompt service to the UK. More recently I've ordered from Empress Miniatures, their UK stockist, and I've had excellent service from them too. I'm sorry about your experiences. Aren't their owners on this site? If so, you could PM them.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: waterproof on June 02, 2021, 08:09:03 AM
I sended two mails on their info@ adress. But no reply actuell.
I´m not in UK and i think this is not the problem  ;).
I try it once again with message via mail. 

Thank you Paul
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on June 02, 2021, 11:00:24 AM
I've ordered from them and had good service.I'm in the US. Since everything has went to hell in the world though it's taking longer to receive anything from overseas.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: waterproof on June 02, 2021, 02:04:53 PM
I am in Germany, so still in Europe ;-).
I placed an order in the UK TAG and one in Spain 1898 at the same time. And I would have bet that Spain is faster. Surprise, I already received the delivery from the UK last week. I suspect it's a technical problem with the shop. I would like to order more Tercios and hope that things will be better in the future.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 03, 2021, 11:29:51 AM
Could you order 1898 Miniaturas figures from Empress? I assume Empress ships to Germany.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: waterproof on June 04, 2021, 05:10:42 AM
yes Paul,i have already ordered from Empress several times and experienced good service. Unfortunately, they don't have the Spanish tercios in the shop. Then I'm in right away.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: mweaver on June 06, 2021, 05:00:47 AM
Hi.  I ordered directly from 1898 last summer, and the figures arrived in good time. 

-Michael
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on June 06, 2021, 07:20:07 AM
yes Paul,i have already ordered from Empress several times and experienced good service. Unfortunately, they don't have the Spanish tercios in the shop. Then I'm in right away.

That's what I thought too until I asked here on LAF. They're under the English Civil War section:
https://www.empressminiatures.com/1898-miniaturas-tyw-range-109-c.asp (https://www.empressminiatures.com/1898-miniaturas-tyw-range-109-c.asp)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: duc de limbourg on June 06, 2021, 07:25:10 AM
CGM or Atlantica Juegos from Spain both sell 1898 miniatures
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: waterproof on June 07, 2021, 05:54:50 AM
Good news for my missing order. After a PM here in the forum, it is now on its way to me. As I suspected, a technical problem. Now I'm looking forward to my parcel.
Thank you Atheling for the tip. I will continue to order directly for now.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on June 07, 2021, 06:06:00 AM
Good news for my missing order. After a PM here in the forum, it is now on its way to me. As I suspected, a technical problem. Now I'm looking forward to my parcel.
Thank you Atheling for the tip. I will continue to order directly for now.

Happy to help Waterproof :)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on September 16, 2021, 03:38:59 PM
Hi,

Any news on the Spanish Cavalry and artillery as of yet please?

Or possibly any news on the expansion into other armies of the era please?

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 16, 2021, 04:03:47 PM
They are working on these.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on September 16, 2021, 04:19:07 PM
Thanks Marco.

Are the pics on the Facebook page by any chance?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on September 16, 2021, 04:44:33 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 25, 2021, 06:42:29 PM
Cavalry coming. :D
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on October 25, 2021, 06:43:46 PM
Cavalry coming. :D
Mark

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Brilliant, just what I have been waiting for  8)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 01, 2021, 02:52:49 PM
Pic
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Digits on November 01, 2021, 03:33:11 PM
They look brilliant!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on November 01, 2021, 04:16:55 PM
Yes!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on November 01, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
Super dynamic cavalry, these will be a brilliant addition to the range. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: bluewillow on November 01, 2021, 07:16:29 PM
They are supurb Marco

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on November 05, 2021, 02:16:04 AM
Another pic
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Metternich on November 05, 2021, 08:06:12 PM
The very spirit of the Harquebusier of the period.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 03, 2021, 07:21:24 PM
Finally! Our range of 28mm miniatures for the Thirty Years War has just incorporated a new series of cavalry that is now available. Equipped with light armour and a wide assortment of weapons including swords, pistols and carbines, this new type of universal horse that evolved during the war was able to perform either the shock tactics of the cuirassier (but at a cheaper price!) and the reconnaissance and support roles of the mounted arquebusiers. This new series of Thirty Years War cavalry miniatures can be used in most of the armies of the period, including the Spanish, and the first batch of releases will include cavalry charging with swords and pistols and equipped with breastplates, buff coats, helmets and soft hats. nI hope you like them!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5043/9ZpV8H.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/4705/dJ3p4H.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5438/jxEHlI.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/7171/EdI5VR.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1087/49xLkN.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5335/qd3PIG.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2669/yZdQaa.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3048/gmCo0J.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/374/oJb67h.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9752/YFc9Nr.jpg)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: rumacara on December 03, 2021, 07:47:55 PM
Lovely figures. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Blackwolf on December 03, 2021, 07:56:37 PM
Gorgeous miniatures,wonderful painting  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on December 03, 2021, 08:11:53 PM
Totally superb  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Lord Raglan on December 03, 2021, 09:57:07 PM
Some of the most animated miniatures I have ever seen
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Friends of General Haig on December 03, 2021, 10:20:42 PM
Love the animation in these figures; the riders and the mounts!  Fabulous painting as well, of course.

Irresistible. Order sent in 8).
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Codsticker on December 04, 2021, 02:06:47 AM
Oooh... I think I will have to pick some of these up.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 04, 2021, 06:33:49 AM
Thank you all! More pics to follow, still painting the command group and the two remaining codes  :?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on December 13, 2021, 10:26:49 PM
A few more pics of the freshly painted (literally) command group  :D

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Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on December 14, 2021, 12:28:29 AM
Really nice figures and beautiful painting.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on December 14, 2021, 05:58:49 AM
 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Friends of General Haig on December 14, 2021, 08:53:02 AM
Beautiful paint work on the cavalry 👍
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: chema1986 on December 14, 2021, 11:05:12 AM
Impressive ! I will definitely order some in the near future  :-*
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: bigredbat on December 14, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
Lovely minis and nice painting!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Shanec on December 20, 2021, 11:42:44 PM
Absolutely brilliant figures with outstanding paint job - my project for 2022!!!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on March 19, 2023, 10:27:22 AM
Dear gentlemen,
This 2023 we return to the Thirty Years War, a range that we are going to expand very soon with new references that we will announce shortly. And what better way to warm up your engines than this spectacular photo session...

We hope you like it!

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Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on March 19, 2023, 10:34:45 AM
Dear gentlemen,
This 2023 we return to the Thirty Years War, a range that we are going to expand very soon with new references that we will announce shortly. And what better way to warm up your engines than this spectacular photo session...

We hope you like it!

I was admiring the spectacle on your Facebook page a day or so back.  :-* :-* :-*

So, What can we expect from the TYW range next- any hints? Perhaps the French are next?

Also, do you have plans to do Bohemians and Germans etc too?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on March 19, 2023, 10:46:09 AM
I was admiring the spectacle on your Facebook page a day or so back.  :-* :-* :-*

So, What can we expect from the TYW range next- any hints? Perhaps the French are next?

Also, do you have plans to do Bohemians and Germans etc too?

We will reveal the new releases soon!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on March 19, 2023, 11:03:00 AM
We will reveal the new releases soon!

Ah...... that's what I was told a year or so back  :-[
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on March 19, 2023, 01:19:12 PM
Ah...... that's what I was told a year or so back  :-[

You're right, sorry about that, but we decided to finish the core of the French Foreign Legion range before going back to the TYW range, that will need our full attention...
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 19, 2023, 03:05:34 PM
You guys have great ranges so people get a little anxious waiting for their minis.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on March 19, 2023, 03:39:10 PM
You're right, sorry about that, but we decided to finish the core of the French Foreign Legion range before going back to the TYW range, that will need our full attention...

The long gap between hearing anything about the TYW range and which direction it would be heading now the bulk of the Spanish are done is a problem, but not one of impatience as one might imagine.

You guys have great ranges so people get a little anxious waiting for their minis.
Mark

Indeed, they are the most beautiful miniatures for the "period" available. By a long way.

The problem I have, is that over the years, so many times companies have started ranges and not completed them. To be honest this, for me, is an untenable position due to the price price of metal miniatures being as expensive as they are nowadays; it is even more important to have information from companies about what sort of direction they're going.

If the information was forthcoming a year or so ago, I would have ended up paying several hundreds of pounds on the beautifully crafted Spanish mini's; but, as it happened, with the lack of into crossed with the expense of miniatures these days, I ended up buying nothing and moving onto other projects. I just didn't want to start an expensive project without knowing I was able to complete it.

I hope that makes sense?
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on March 19, 2023, 07:29:21 PM
The long gap between hearing anything about the TYW range and which direction it would be heading now the bulk of the Spanish are done is a problem, but not one of impatience as one might imagine.

Indeed, they are the most beautiful miniatures for the "period" available. By a long way.

The problem I have, is that over the years, so many times companies have started ranges and not completed them. To be honest this, for me, is an untenable position due to the price price of metal miniatures being as expensive as they are nowadays; it is even more important to have information from companies about what sort of direction they're going.

If the information was forthcoming a year or so ago, I would have ended up paying several hundreds of pounds on the beautifully crafted Spanish mini's; but, as it happened, with the lack of into crossed with the expense of miniatures these days, I ended up buying nothing and moving onto other projects. I just didn't want to start an expensive project without knowing I was able to complete it.

I hope that makes sense?

Absolutely, I completely understand. In our case it's not a matter of lack of commitment, but of the limited availability of our talented sculptor, that make us to develope our ranges painfully slower than other companies. Thus, we prefer not to anticipate future releases until we are actually working on them in order to not to generate unnecessary frustration. On pricing, you're right, we raised prices last year but not that much, made no further increases and had no plans of new changes, t least in the short term, if this helps. Though I understand you may have lost interest, it will be our challenge to tempt you again!  ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on March 20, 2023, 08:19:01 AM
Absolutely, I completely understand. In our case it's not a matter of lack of commitment, but of the limited availability of our talented sculptor, that make us to develope our ranges painfully slower than other companies. Thus, we prefer not to anticipate future releases until we are actually working on them in order to not to generate unnecessary frustration.

I understand. It's more of a planning thing. It's impossible to plan if you don't have any idea of what's coming in the future :)

On pricing, you're right, we raised prices last year but not that much, made no further increases and had no plans of new changes, t least in the short term, if this helps. Though I understand you may have lost interest, it will be our challenge to tempt you again!  ;)

The prices of all miniatures cast in metal have gone up. A necessity for all manufacturers. I was just pointing out that it's not like 20 years ago when metal miniatures were relatively cheap. Nowadays, especially in the current economic climate, they are expensive items.
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: carlos marighela on March 20, 2023, 09:36:23 AM
'Our chief weapon is surprise, surprise and fear, fear and surprise......'  :D
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: flags_of_war on March 20, 2023, 10:11:42 AM
More TYW on tables is always a good thing
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Paul Richardson on March 20, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
Darrell: I think your position makes complete sense. I've never got over my disappointment with Dixons over their French in Egypt range. I bought loads of the French and had them beautifully painted by Special Forces and then waited for Dixons to bring out some Mamluks for them to fight, and the Mamluks never appeared. Dixons, to be fair, did bring out a few British infantry and a couple of Ottoman infantry figures but my hope of recreating a French against Mamluk cavalry scenario was never possible. 
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: TheDilfy on March 20, 2023, 12:50:52 PM
Darrell: I think your position makes complete sense. I've never got over my disappointment with Dixons over their French in Egypt range. I bought loads of the French and had them beautifully painted by Special Forces and then waited for Dixons to bring out some Mamluks for them to fight, and the Mamluks never appeared. Dixons, to be fair, did bring out a few British infantry and a couple of Ottoman infantry figures but my hope of recreating a French against Mamluk cavalry scenario was never possible.
Have you seen the Perry's newly launched Ottoman range? I think they will add as they go along. I echo your sentiments, Paul, and Darrell's too - I am reluctant to invest in figure company(s) unless they road map the range. I haven't a clue as to why it all has to be top secret... ???
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: Atheling on March 20, 2023, 01:03:05 PM
Darrell: I think your position makes complete sense. I've never got over my disappointment with Dixons over their French in Egypt range. I bought loads of the French and had them beautifully painted by Special Forces and then waited for Dixons to bring out some Mamluks for them to fight, and the Mamluks never appeared. Dixons, to be fair, did bring out a few British infantry and a couple of Ottoman infantry figures but my hope of recreating a French against Mamluk cavalry scenario was never possible.

Thanks Paul. I appreciate the support. What you have described a nightmare scenario...... one that I too am familiar with.

I echo your sentiments, Paul, and Darrell's too - I am reluctant to invest in figure company(s) unless they road map the range. I haven't a clue as to why it all has to be top secret... ???

I think it's a legacy of Games Workshop or some such nonsense. So many companies, including ones I've painted for in a former life, insist on absolute secrecy to be maintained before a release announcement. Maybe letting the cat out of the bag really does effect sales? Though for the life of me, allowing the "punter" to plan for future releases would surely guarantee more sales in the long term? It's baffling.  o_o

OK, I really ought to add, I love 1898 miniatures, they are superb sculpts and fine castings too  8)

Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on March 20, 2023, 01:47:46 PM
Yes they are top notch.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on March 20, 2023, 02:11:04 PM
Thank you for your generous compliments, and especially for your constructive critics, it's always really helpful to hear different opinions!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on October 15, 2023, 10:59:46 AM
Dear friends, the first miniatures of our new range of French for the Thirty Years War in 28mm are now available. This first batch of new releases includes a series of French cavalry made up of a specific command group, and charging figures equipped with armor and buff coats, pistols and swords, and with the chapeau d’arme, a metallic hat-shaped helmet typical of the French army, and of course, their characteristic mustaches and long hair. These miniatures can also be combined with our current cavalry references with helmets and hats, also fully in use in the French army of the Thirty Years War.

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This new release will be followed by a series of marching French infantry: pikemen with and without armor, with helmets and hats, and musketeers (at this time the arquebusiers had ceased to exist and muskets would soon be lightened to dispense with the fork) with the characteristic equipment and clothing that we have found in the sources of the period: long coats, wide trousers with a cylindrical leg, wide-brimmed hats and hunting caps, etc. And of course, the long waited artillery.

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Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: marco55 on October 15, 2023, 03:17:05 PM
Very very nice.
Mark
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: has.been on October 15, 2023, 08:21:34 PM
Yes, very nice. I fully expect they will pop up in various ECW armies too. ;)
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: thestoats on October 19, 2023, 05:33:42 AM
Lovely miniatures as always from 1898! I saw on your blog that you planned to represent Germans, Imperials, and Dutch eventually, which I can't wait to see! Much better than generic English Civil War figures! However, I notice that the Swedes, a key player in the conflict, are noticeably missing from that list. Is this because you plan not to represent them, or rather because at this time you simply can't say? I would love to see some actual 28mm Swedes for the Thirty Years War, especially if they're produced by talented sculptors such as yourselves!
Title: Re: Spanish Tercios
Post by: 1898 Miniaturas on October 26, 2023, 02:14:51 PM
Yes, the plan is to build a range that will cover the different armies involved in the TYW, but this is a very ambitious project, so better to do step by step rather than to make big promises. French infantry marching will be next, and looks really nice...