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Title: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Friends of General Haig on May 19, 2019, 11:17:46 PM

Gustav Adolf is meant to have said at the start of the battle of Lutzen that the Imperial Cuirassiers were "… the men that will undo us …". Prophetic words from the King who would die when caught in the 'fog of war' by these very men.

I have just finished a unit of Imperial Cuirassiers. To give me a nice mix of figures for the twelve figure unit I have used a mix of manufacturers for men and horses. Warlord, Perry, Horcata, Avanpost, Foundry and Front Rank. I am trying to give the impression of a unit equipped from a variety of sources, but still belonging to the same unit, and following the same orders.

Here is what I started with.

(https://i.imgur.com/Uvm4tzF.jpg?1)

I tried out some new brown paint triads and a new method for black armour. Here is the finished unit.

(https://i.imgur.com/EeoQwDm.jpg?1)

There are more pictures and details on my blog here:

https://theviaregia.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-men-that-will-undo-us.html

Next I am painting … more TYW cuirassiers :-)

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 19, 2019, 11:41:51 PM

Very nice  :)

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: sepoy1857 on May 20, 2019, 12:56:24 AM

Excellent! They look amazing.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Codsticker on May 20, 2019, 02:13:23 AM

Oh yeah... very well done. 8)

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: FierceKitty on May 20, 2019, 02:33:05 AM

Stop tempting me!

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on May 20, 2019, 08:44:12 AM

Great work!

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Paul Richardson on May 20, 2019, 09:45:51 AM

Excellent unit. You've mixed the various ranges very successfully.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Gungadin on May 20, 2019, 06:22:12 PM

Gorgeous and I love the careful consideration that has gone into blending different manufacturers into a credible unit. Can you tell us what make the trumpeter is please?

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: armchairgeneral on May 20, 2019, 07:45:35 PM

Great looking unit  :-*

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Friends of General Haig on May 20, 2019, 10:32:20 PM

Thanks all - very much appreciated! 

@Gungadin - the trumpeter is a Perry Miniature.  ECW Metal Range, ECW15 Cuirassier Command.  Unusually for this range it is a single casting of rider and horse.  https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_40_45&products_id=1854 (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_40_45&products_id=1854)

@FierceKitty - I may have to post more soon   ;)

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Rogerc on May 20, 2019, 11:05:30 PM

I have become a great fan of mixing manufacturers where possible so units look more varied, great job here I have to say.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Gungadin on May 21, 2019, 10:02:41 AM

Many thanks!

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Friends of General Haig on May 21, 2019, 01:58:24 PM

@Gungadin - you’re welcome   :)

@RogerC - I must admit I am a multi-manufacturer addict.  It makes ordering figures more complicated but I do like making up the units.  :D

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 21, 2019, 04:38:16 PM

Wonderful concept.  I will be adding to my Cuirassier units shortly and may well follow your ideas about mixing manufacturers.

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Post by: Arthur on May 21, 2019, 09:00:30 PM

An interesting mix of manufacturers : they work well together despite the differences.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Captain Blood on May 21, 2019, 09:32:13 PM

Nice work. Like the basing too  :)

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Friends of General Haig on May 22, 2019, 07:13:16 PM

Thank you! 

I’m not exactly sure when I started mixing manufacturers like this.  I suspect it was when I first started my Montrose collection. Early to mid 17th century Irish and Highlanders were difficult to find so it was a figure or two from here and a figure or two from there. Also, in a warband of Highlanders I wanted as much variety as possible.  It has become a habit  :D

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Lord Raglan on May 22, 2019, 08:09:23 PM

Love this unit mate, the mix is a perfect compliment  :-*

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Post by: Ignatieff on May 22, 2019, 11:30:48 PM

Wow!  Brilliant!

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Friends of General Haig on May 23, 2019, 07:29:48 AM

Thanks both , much appreciated  :)

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 03, 2019, 11:54:57 AM

If you should ever want another range to mix in, have a look at the Warlord Games Wars of Religion gendarmes. They're nice sculpts (Paul Hicks). You might want to do something with their right arms, because they come with lances, but they look to be a pretty good match for the Perry ECW cuirassiers in my opinion.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Friends of General Haig on June 03, 2019, 12:11:14 PM

Hi Paul - great suggestion.  I had completely overlooked them.  They do look rather nice. Do you know if the lance arms are separate?  Not a deal breaker as an open hand is a good start for conversion anyway.  I have a large stash of the Warlord plastic horses that I might substitute for the metal ones if they are too 'weedy'. 

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 03, 2019, 01:47:19 PM

The right arm is cast on. One of the lancers has his lance at an angle which makes his arm rather more difficult to do something with. The horses are Ebob - nice enough in their own right but in a different design of harness from the Perry ECW cuirassiers.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: FifteensAway on June 04, 2019, 01:37:50 AM

Now you've done it.  Cracked open the mixed manufacturer can of worms, wide, wide open.  People are going to be...oh, wait, I've been doing this for years in 15 mm.  Never, ever understood the one manufacturer conceit that plaques so many in the hobby.  Well, I understand why the manufacturer's like it, naturally.  lol 

Oh, and yes, nice figures and nice basing.

Title: Re: "The men that will undo us"
Post by: Paul Richardson on June 04, 2019, 09:34:44 AM

Here's one little trick I've used with cavalry units. If I'm using riders from different manufacturers I sometimes base them all on horses from just the one manufacturer. I find that it pulls them together a bit. The trick then is to find a manufacturer who makes horses in a sufficient number of variants of the type of pose you want.