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Title: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Captain Blood on June 22, 2009, 12:00:59 AM
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Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Hammers on June 22, 2009, 12:18:04 AM
Nipples! :)
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Helen on June 22, 2009, 12:31:37 AM
Tough choice, but Dylan gets my vote.

Oh Peder, do behave  lol

Helen
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Bako on June 22, 2009, 12:43:03 AM
Hammers strikes again!

They were both excellent (and apparently both have wings), however the Shakespeare reference struck a note. Good luck to both of you!
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Mancha on June 22, 2009, 05:49:31 AM
That second entry's a little disturbing, but the skin blends are beautiful.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Vanvlak on June 22, 2009, 06:46:24 AM
Wow.
Oh wow.
Grand show, both, spectacular eyes and spectacular Shakespeare.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Heldrak on June 22, 2009, 02:57:48 PM
Nice move putting a representation of the changeling boy in there, Plynkes! ;)

Amusingly, I directed a production of A Midsummer Night's Dream for my masters thesis, so it's rather like I'm being hoist by my own petard...!
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 22, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
Thought we could do with a little Kultur around the place for a change.  :)

Thanks, Heldrak. Another high-brow type, eh? Blood confided in me that he had played Oberon on more than one occasion himself (hope he don't mind me blurting that out). Hopefully I don't flatter myself in thinking we're quite well-matched, quality wise, and we both have big guys with wings! I love your flowers on the bases. How did you do them, if you don't mind me asking? I wanted to put some on mine as I thought it would fit the theme well, but firstly I ran out of time; and secondly I realised I had no idea how to go about such a thing. Good luck!

By the way, I accidentally voted for you as I meant to vote for myself but hit the wrong button. What an idiot!  lol But I don't mind, as your effort is well worth the vote.

I must say I really enjoyed doing this week's effort. It was a real departure from my normal kind of thing, and I haven't had so much fun painting in an absolute age. Perhaps I should dump historicals and take up this type of thing full time, eh?



A little disturbing, eh, Mancha? Really, in what way?  ???
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 22, 2009, 04:03:35 PM
Thought we could do with a little Kultur around the place for a change.  :)

Thanks, Heldrak. Another high-brow type, eh? Blood confided in me that he had played Oberon on more than one occasion himself (hope he don't mind me blurting that out). Hopefully I don't flatter myself in thinking we're quite well-matched, quality wise, and we both have big guys with wings! I love your flowers on the bases. How did you do them, if you don't mind me asking? I wanted to put some on mine as I thought it would fit the theme well, but firstly I ran out of time; and secondly I realised I had no idea how to go about such a thing. Good luck!

By the way, I accidentally voted for you as I meant to vote for myself but hit the wrong button. What an idiot!  lol But I don't mind, as your effort is well worth the vote.

I must say I really enjoyed doing this week's effort. It was a real departure from my normal kind of thing, and I haven't had so much fun painting in an absolute age. Perhaps I should dump historicals and take up this type of thing full time, eh?



A little disturbing, eh, Mancha? Really, in what way?  ???


Maybe he doesn't like boobies?
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 22, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
Maybe he doesn't like boobies?

The same doesn't apply to me. Thus an easy vote for the sexy elves. :D
Very nice skin tones, by the way. Right now these miniatures cavort here on my desk, and I'm trying to find a recipe how to paint them properly. Any advice on colour choice (esp. for the European flesh)?
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 22, 2009, 04:25:40 PM
Oberon, the nudie pixie men, the cherubs and the "European" fairy handmaiden are all done with GW Bronzed Flesh mixed with a little Vermin Brown. Then they're given a wash of GW Orgyn Flesh, and then Coat d'Arms Flesh is added to their original colours for the highlights. A little more Flesh is added to the mix for each highlight as they get lighter.

After doing the handmaiden I thought she looked a bit suntanned for a fairy type, so for Titania I changed my approach, using much less Vermin Brown and Bronzed Flesh and much more Coat d'Arms Flesh. As a little experiment I mixed a little GW Red wash into the mix as I went along, to make her a little more pink. The result was a much paler tone for the queen, who looks like she spends most of her time in the moonlight, unlike two of her train who appear to have been sunbathing nude on a nearby Greek island somewhere.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Heldrak on June 22, 2009, 04:39:43 PM
Thought we could do with a little Kultur around the place for a change.  :)

Thanks, Heldrak. Another high-brow type, eh? Blood confided in me that he had played Oberon on more than one occasion himself (hope he don't mind me blurting that out). Hopefully I don't flatter myself in thinking we're quite well-matched, quality wise, and we both have big guys with wings! I love your flowers on the bases. How did you do them, if you don't mind me asking? I wanted to put some on mine as I thought it would fit the theme well, but firstly I ran out of time; and secondly I realised I had no idea how to go about such a thing. Good luck!
I agree, this was an excellent match.

The purple flowers are the same ones I used in my Round 5 entry, "Riders of the Purple Sage". You can see the details on them in the Round 5 thread here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11195.msg128488#msg128488

Since I had to go through the costuming program as part of my directing degree, I do have a bit of a background in costume theory and that informed my entry. I decided that Purple would be the color for royalty of Ming's bloodline, and that a red cloak would also be indicative of a position in line for the throne. Note that as the Prince of Arboria, Barin's cloak is a more rustic red-brown than Ming & Aura's brighter red cloaks (in Alex Raymond's original continuity, Barin is the actual true heir to the throne of Mongo, and Ming is essentially a usurper). The Captain of Ming's Guard has Ming's colors reversed, and he's allowed to wear them as Ming presumably sees his Guards as extensions of his royal will. Since Prince Barin & Princess Aura wind up together in the end, I tried to tie them together visually by giving them the same turn-downs on their boots and a few other little touches. Vultan has no real relationship to the others color-wise (as the Prince of an independent realm with no claim to the throne) apart from his leathers and the floral theme on the base. I thought the flowers helped tie everyone together and that their purple color would be a little hint of everyone conniving for the throne ;)
 

By the way, I accidentally voted for you as I meant to vote for myself but hit the wrong button. What an idiot!  lol But I don't mind, as your effort is well worth the vote.
It's looking like you've got me well and truly beat in the early returns, Plynkes so I can use every vote I can get! If I beat you by some miracle or we wind up drawing by a single vote, you can have your vote back ;)

I love the layout of your entry, Plynkes but I would have dispensed with the Cherubim and other flying models at the top of the frame (they distract a bit from the essential confrontation between Oberon & Titania) and I would have moved the furry creature (presumably Puck) back into Oberon's orbit, since he falls pretty squarely on Oberon's side in the conflict.

Oops! I've been retired from the theatre for over a decade and there I go trying to direct again! Sorry... ::)



Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Mancha on June 22, 2009, 05:11:26 PM
A little disturbing, eh, Mancha? Really, in what way?  ???

Pictures of naked adults with children always make me cringe a little.  And then there's the monkey with the demonic eyes... 
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 22, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
Oops! I've been retired from the theatre for over a decade and there I go trying to direct again! Sorry... ::)

You're quite right of course, but I had painted all those little doodads and I was damned if I was going to leave them out! I had to squeeze them in somewhere. Puck (for it is he: I didn't have a suitable figure for a more traditional-looking Puck, so I went with the idea of him being a goblinish sort of fellow) wouldn't fit on the scenic temple base with all the others, and he looked odd with his base hanging over the edge. I wanted him at the front pulling rude faces at the girls' side and after tinkering with the composition for ages I gave up and just shoved him where there was room.  :)

I must have missed your explanation of the purple sage (though I do remember the entry itself). I'll have to check that out. Thanks.

Mancha: Oh right, I get you. Fair enough I suppose. Didn't even occur to me that someone would go down that road with it, but I can't stop people bringing their own baggage to the thing.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Mancha on June 22, 2009, 05:52:13 PM
Mancha: Oh right, I get you. Fair enough I suppose. Didn't even occur to me that someone would go down that road with it, but I can't stop people bringing their own baggage to the thing.

Ah, thanks for that.  :?
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: argsilverson on June 22, 2009, 06:00:06 PM
After half a day admiring both, I voted and what I understood? I am also an idiot, I pressed the wrong button.

I will not reveal what, since both are very good entries, though Shakespere has a bonus within. "originality"

Could we have some more photos of the 2nd entry? The dark flesh lady is superb
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Heldrak on June 22, 2009, 06:04:47 PM
Puck (for it is he: I didn't have a suitable figure for a more traditional-looking Puck, so I went with the idea of him being a goblinish sort of fellow) wouldn't fit on the scenic temple base with all the others, and he looked odd with his base hanging over the edge. I wanted him at the front pulling rude faces at the girls' side and after tinkering with the composition for ages I gave up and just shoved him where there was room.  :)

There's plenty of textual evidence to back you up in a "furry goblin" interpretation of Puck. Puck is a shapechanger par excellence anyway... ;)
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: argsilverson on June 22, 2009, 06:45:45 PM
I am not quite familiar with the actual play, but maybe a Pan from eureka could fit.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 22, 2009, 07:11:14 PM
Puck is a mischievous woodland sprite from English mythology that is distinct from Pan. The play is set in mythological Greece but the fairies in it seem very much to be from the British Isles (maybe they are on a package tour).  :) You do on stage often see him depicted as looking like a faun or satyr though, so a Pan figure would work splendidly. That's a good idea.

But I prefer him monstrous. I'm quite happy with my little furry-monkey Puck!  :)


When this is all over I'll post some more close up shots for you, Argsilverson. I enjoyed painting them so I may do a few more (there were going to be more fairy handmaidens but time prevented me from finishing them) and make them into a little fairy warband or two for "Song of Blades and Heroes" or something like that. If I do I'll post those as well.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: argsilverson on June 22, 2009, 07:28:44 PM
BTW Eureka also does some satyrs, alas with spears!
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 22, 2009, 07:38:59 PM
Yes, I was just looking at them. I hadn't noticed Eureka's Myths range before, but since you mentioned them I went and had a look. The ones with bows, tree branches and stones are nice. I might get some of them to give Oberon some more troops in case the feud with his wife gets out of hand  (I think the nudie fairy ladies would make mincemeat out of his current followers). Thanks for that.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: argsilverson on June 22, 2009, 07:48:31 PM
plynkes,
Itry to recognise all the models you ujsed, but I have failed.
What is the "black" lady with bow and "white" hair?

I have also recognised a couple of faire folks but not the rest.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 22, 2009, 08:03:29 PM
All of the figures in the scene come from Foundry Elf packs (from their fantasy range) apart from the Indian changeling prince, who is a Eureka figure. The lady with the bow is from one of the nymph packs. Bear in mind I bought these when they first came out, and since then Foundry seem to have pulled their trick of restructuring the packs so you pay the same for less figures. A brief look at their site and it seems particular girl has vanished from the packs (unless I've overlooked her somewhere), but you can still see her on the NYMPH WAR MAIDENS HORDE page.

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ELF/3/index.asp (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ELF/3/index.asp)

(She's in the top left corner.)
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: UncleRhino on June 22, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
Fantastic Mongo Royalty!  I am very impressed with what you were able to do with Aura's face, that is a very, very flat surface, not a great sculpt at all, but you pulled it off quite well.

Ryan
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Grimm on June 22, 2009, 08:18:37 PM
fairy ??

Plynkes shows us a new side of his personality  :D

but after all you get my vote  ;)

cheers Grimm
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Heldrak on June 22, 2009, 09:56:53 PM
Fantastic Mongo Royalty!  I am very impressed with what you were able to do with Aura's face, that is a very, very flat surface, not a great sculpt at all, but you pulled it off quite well.

Thanks, Unc'.

Yes, no Ornella Mutti she...! ::) 

Like her spiritual sister "Felicity Goodbody", Alura has a round flat head like a giant lollipop or a frying pan and it is difficult to convey the proper sense of pulchritude. She is also making a crooked sneering expression with her mouth, which just makes things more difficult. I thought it was actually pretty cheeky of WSD to market her as "Kassiopia, Khang's Beautiful Daughter" when the model is so obviously flawed... maybe she has a nice personality?
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: argsilverson on June 22, 2009, 11:04:28 PM
All of the figures in the scene come from Foundry Elf packs (from their fantasy range) apart from the Indian changeling prince, who is a Eureka figure. The lady with the bow is from one of the nymph packs. Bear in mind I bought these when they first came out, and since then Foundry seem to have pulled their trick of restructuring the packs so you pay the same for less figures. A brief look at their site and it seems particular girl has vanished from the packs (unless I've overlooked her somewhere), but you can still see her on the NYMPH WAR MAIDENS HORDE page.

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ELF/3/index.asp (http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ELF/3/index.asp)


(She's in the top left corner.)

that explains a lot of things!
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 23, 2009, 01:05:18 AM
Plynkes shows us a new side of his personality  :D

 o_o

Ain't that the truth....

 :)
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Hammers on June 23, 2009, 07:44:47 AM
Plynkes, are you planning a game for this wonderful lot? The reason I ask is because I have, for some time, had an similar idea which I would one day dazzle the wargaming community with. You beat me to it, you devil1, but I am nevertheless interested in how you are going to go about it if you are.

1Item of friendly banter, which seems to be best for me to point out these days.  :)
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 23, 2009, 09:31:53 AM
Didn't really do them with gaming in mind, Hammers, but now I've painted them I'm beginning to think it might be fun to paint a few more and use them on the tabletop somehow. Though my thinking has gone no further than that as yet.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Vanvlak on June 23, 2009, 09:59:40 AM
Didn't really do them with gaming in mind, Hammers, but now I've painted them I'm beginning to think it might be fun to paint a few more and use them on the tabletop somehow. Though my thinking has gone no further than that as yet.
Ill met by moonlight?
We'll meet again
Or meat;
Why not, o Fairy, Meat?

On table tops
With books of rules
In garish hues
And butchers' tools
For Fairy Meat

So down, and eat
And then to war
Wherein the lines
Of fairies meet.


Oh gods, it HAS to be the flu that's made me do this....  :-X

Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Hammers on June 23, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
Not the flu, Vanvlak. You like me, I suspect, are a pisser. :)

Not quite what *I*had in mind. Hands up anyone who's read Susanna Clarke's "The Ladies of Grace Adieu" and, more famous, 'Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell'.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Vanvlak on June 23, 2009, 01:08:48 PM
Not the flu, Vanvlak. You like me, I suspect, are a pisser. :)

Not quite what *I*had in mind. Hands up anyone who's read Susanna Clarke's "The Ladies of Grace Adieu" and, more famous, 'Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell'.
Not read them.
Oh dear, I'm afraid I'm not incontinent either. Yet.  :D
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Admiral Benbow on June 23, 2009, 01:35:11 PM
Hands up anyone who's read Susanna Clarke's "The Ladies of Grace Adieu" and, more famous, 'Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell'.

Yes, I'm still reading 'Jonathan Strange ...'. It's a fabulous book, thank God not like all this Fantasy stuff only repeating itself again and again. But you need some 'Sitzfleisch", as we Dschörmans say, meaning you need to invest some time and interest to plough through those more than 1.000 pages ...
 :D
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Heldrak on June 23, 2009, 01:47:09 PM
Not quite what *I*had in mind. Hands up anyone who's read Susanna Clarke's "The Ladies of Grace Adieu" and, more famous, 'Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell'.

I've read them, Hammers (No surprise there when your as elf-struck as me- look at my avatar, for goodness' sake! ;D).

While I love the Foundry Elven Revenants (I have some in my lead pile right now), I too have never been able to come up with a satisfactory way to use them in a game. They're frankly too large in scale to use as Warhammer figures, and Elves have no presence in Broadsword Adventures and those are the only two games I'm currently playing (apart from the other .45 Adventure games, Fantastic Worlds, etc.).
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Hammers on June 23, 2009, 01:54:21 PM
Glad to hear there are some fellow aficionados. Clarke is bringing elves back to being, like in Sheakspear, as they say, fuckers. I like that.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Hitman on June 23, 2009, 03:46:14 PM
These are both nice entries. Mongo is very nicely detailed as are the rest of his colleagues. The Moonlight crew have some nice details, and the layout is very appealing...makes a great little story. Best of luck to you both.
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Plynkes on June 24, 2009, 12:27:30 AM
fairy ??

Plynkes shows us a new side of his personality  :D


Yeah, I did it to be more like you, mate. I saw your book so decided to copy you...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/grimm.jpg)

 ;D lol
Title: Re: ROUND 9 The Nobility of Mongo vs “Ill met by moonlight”
Post by: Grimm on June 28, 2009, 11:11:55 AM
 lol lol lol damned !! you got me mate  lol lol

Yes the brother grimm will haunt me my whole live .

Cheers Grimm