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Title: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 14, 2019, 02:54:12 PM
This time for my third sculpting project we are going to travel to Ancient Greece. All those new greek themed rules were too inspiring, so I dropped anything and decided to take a very big step forward. A big step because a theme like that means alot of exposed body parts and extra attention to anatomy. I intend to make some more, with varient armour and helmet options. This first one features a muscled thorax and a high crest. Measures 32 mm to the top of his head and fits perfectly in size and proportions with the new Footsore Mortal Gods minis.
The mini was sculpted mainly in beesputty and some small details in procreate, greenstuff and plasticard. I learned alot through this process and generally had  great fun. I hope that the next ones will improve.

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I will follow up with some wip pics in a next post.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on June 14, 2019, 08:37:16 PM
Looks great! Are you going to cast it?
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 14, 2019, 08:52:15 PM
Looks great! Are you going to cast it?

Im thinking to
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Bloggard on June 16, 2019, 08:51:05 AM
superb.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 16, 2019, 02:33:40 PM
thank you  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: markw on June 19, 2019, 09:44:31 AM
Hi,

Looks superb buddy, defo look at getting a cast of it. I would be interested in the costing of running a batch of them. Cheers
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 19, 2019, 10:57:01 AM
Hi,

Looks superb buddy, defo look at getting a cast of it. I would be interested in the costing of running a batch of them. Cheers

Hi Thanks for the vote of confidence  :)
Im planning to scult at least 2 more and then I will get a casting quote from a local casting company. They cast resin figures and scale models for many well known model companies so the quality of the end product is unquestionable. Once I get a price and if people here are interested I will let you know.
Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 21, 2019, 08:29:16 PM
some wip pics of the first one
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 25, 2019, 06:50:17 PM
And here we have a wip of the second mini. This one will have a linothorax on.

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: markw on June 26, 2019, 01:06:00 PM
Looking good there buddy.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Bloggard on June 27, 2019, 03:42:59 PM
top class.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 01, 2019, 12:53:29 PM
A tiny copper wire kopis straight out of Crom's anvil  ;D
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites (hoplite#2 wip)
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 03, 2019, 10:18:58 PM
a small update

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 08, 2019, 09:42:44 PM
body#2 completed, sculpting the head and some accesories (sword belts etc)

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on July 10, 2019, 07:17:56 PM
These already look very nice indeed...shall be following your progress with interest....will happily sign up to buy some as well
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 10, 2019, 09:00:59 PM
These already look very nice indeed...shall be following your progress with interest....will happily sign up to buy some as well

Thank you, im learning as i go. I must say that i really enjoy it so far  :)
Any feedback is appreciated
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 13, 2019, 06:10:56 PM
Small update. I made 3 heads, the crests will come seperately. These are in attic-chalkidean helmets. Im going to make some more corinthians and other variations.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on July 13, 2019, 07:17:47 PM
Your job is superb!
And I think I see ancient statues!  :-*
I'll be following this thread with great interest!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 13, 2019, 07:45:32 PM
Your job is superb!
And I think I see ancient statues!  :-*
I'll be following this thread with great interest!
Cheers!

Thank you Dino  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 16, 2019, 09:52:15 PM
The #2 hoplite is ready minus the scabbard and the helmet crest

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on July 16, 2019, 10:17:54 PM
Wow, that is stunning.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Marine0846 on July 17, 2019, 03:41:18 AM
Lovely figures.
Hope you put them on sale.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 17, 2019, 11:57:32 AM
Thanks guys. Im looking into production details and costs. Once I know all the parameters Im going to decide the best way to proceed. An indiegogo capmaign could be an option. I dont know yet. If you have any ideas on the subject please share them with me.


Having a bit of leftover clay, I made one more head option.

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Plynkes on July 17, 2019, 01:24:53 PM
The guy pointing his sword is just proper nice. Really like him.


Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: valerio81 on July 18, 2019, 06:52:29 AM
You really are an artist. Those are awesome. Since you ask for ideas, can I suggest you take a look at earlier Italy, say V or IV cent bc?

Not many lines of figures existing: most of those focus on nobles wearing hoplite kits. Lots of unexplored subjects, especially local tribes and not so wealthy citizens who could not afford hoplite kits - but also savage nobles. I am thinking bruttiis, siceliots, lower class etruscans, etc.

Plus, they can fight tour greek hoplites all right!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 18, 2019, 11:30:28 AM
You really are an artist. Those are awesome. Since you ask for ideas, can I suggest you take a look at earlier Italy, say V or IV cent bc?

Not many lines of figures existing: most of those focus on nobles wearing hoplite kits. Lots of unexplored subjects, especially local tribes and not so wealthy citizens who could not afford hoplite kits - but also savage nobles. I am thinking bruttiis, siceliots, lower class etruscans, etc.

Plus, they can fight tour greek hoplites all right!

Hey thanks, Im not sure I know what Im doing but Im trying  ;D. Im very very new into sculpting, so as I said before its a learning process. The only ace up my sleeve is my graphic design/illustration  background, so I already have a sense for basic anatomy and proportions. Other than that, pure trial and error  :D.
Italian tribes are very interesting indeed and I also like that the Etruscans retained many parts of the archaic greek panoply, such as thigh, upper leg and arm protection.
Right now Im focusing mainly on hoplites. Im aiming for historical accuracy as much as possible checking with pottery databases, museum artifacts  and illustrations trying to make sure that I get them as right as possible given the scale and restrictions of the medium. The minis match the size of the Footsore/Victrix range so they could serve as officers or heroes in the latest skirmish ancient themed games like Mortal Gods etc.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 18, 2019, 11:34:38 AM
and a first wip of #3

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: valerio81 on July 18, 2019, 04:46:25 PM
Well, if you do decide to go the savage italian tribes way, I'll be happy to help with references.. I even live close to an etruscan mjseum!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 18, 2019, 06:45:55 PM
Well, if you do decide to go the savage italian tribes way, I'll be happy to help with references.. I even live close to an etruscan mjseum!

Thanks I ll keep that in mind  :)
I know there are some very interesting helmets and thorakes in Italy.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on July 18, 2019, 11:49:31 PM
These really are excellent  ! Am greatly enjoying following your progress....your enthusiasm for the subject is reflected in the sculpts...lovely work indeed
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on July 19, 2019, 09:19:46 AM
I am stunned with your sculpting quality! The proportions you achieve give to your figure a highly aesthetic and harmonius look!
Many congratulations!

Here is an interesting article:
Why ancient armor had awesome abs
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/5/9097165/ancient-greek-abs
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on July 19, 2019, 12:45:19 PM
I am stunned with your sculpting quality! The proportions you achieve give to your figure a highly aesthetic and harmonius look!
Many congratulations!

Here is an interesting article:
Why ancient armor had awesome abs
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/5/9097165/ancient-greek-abs

Great article. At some point I think Im going to take a step back chronologically and make an early archaic hoplite with the full panoply that covered almost all the body.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Marine0846 on August 09, 2019, 12:11:20 AM
Captain Harlock,

Any new figures done?
Love the two you have done.
I am sure that many on this Forum would be interested in purchasing them,
 if they go on sale.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 09, 2019, 10:29:23 AM
Captain Harlock,

Any new figures done?
Love the two you have done.
I am sure that many on this Forum would be interested in purchasing them,
 if they go on sale.

The third one is coming around, soon i will upload some pics. Im on vacations right now at my summerhouse and things kinda slowed down abit. The weather doesnt make it very easy if it continues like that i wont need an oven for beesputty  lol i can just leave it outside  lol. But i have all my stuff here and continue working on the minis.
I got some price quotes for resin casting so if there is interest surely things are going to happen  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Marine0846 on August 09, 2019, 01:24:11 PM
Great news to hear.
Enjoy your vacation.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: bluewillow on August 10, 2019, 07:04:28 AM
Great sculpting on those!

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on August 10, 2019, 08:26:01 PM
Beautiful!

Maybe you should contact Andy Hobday from Footsore Miniatures. They have resin/metal casting facilty?

I want these for my Mortal Gods lochos! :-D
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 25, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
A wip pic of the third hoplite. Testing the upload ability from my ipad
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 25, 2019, 08:46:10 PM
A pic with an aluminum foil cape mock up
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Marine0846 on August 26, 2019, 01:28:41 AM
The new guy looks great.
Love him.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 26, 2019, 06:08:42 AM
The new guy looks great.
Love him.
And he is going to hold up the product of a heated cultural exchange in his left arm  :D
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on August 26, 2019, 07:02:34 AM
Scales, musculature, grieves, perfect! Eager to see it finished!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Harry Faversham on August 26, 2019, 07:34:23 AM
I got some price quotes for resin casting so if there is interest surely things are going to happen  :)

Great stuff Captain, hope it works out OK, I'll certainly have 'em for my blossoming Greek Army!

:-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on August 26, 2019, 10:53:03 AM
I am ready to pre-order! They all look magnificent! I can't wait to use them for Mortal Gods. Also I wouldn't mind your take on a 12th century crusader. :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 26, 2019, 12:37:12 PM
I am ready to pre-order! They all look magnificent! I can't wait to use them for Mortal Gods. Also I wouldn't mind your take on a 12th century crusader. :-*

Actually before these I was thinking of starting an 11th century  eastern roman set. I have a cataphract almost ready, just missing a head.  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on August 26, 2019, 01:17:04 PM
Actually before these I was thinking of starting an 11th century  eastern roman set. I have a cataphract almost ready, just missing a head.  :)

I would love to see it. If it is almost finished maybe you can get it cast too? Hopefully you will sell them soon? :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 26, 2019, 02:33:38 PM
I would love to see it. If it is almost finished maybe you can get it cast too? Hopefully you will sell them soon? :-*

Thanks for the vote of confidence  :)
Im completely new in this endeavor so im trying to move as fast as possible while learning. I was thinking about making at least five hoplite minis, that could be used as officers or hero characters. Then add in some variant heads with historical looking helmets and crests. My aim is to create something I personally would like to buy. Im using museum exhibits and pottery databases as main reference material. I hope that i will be ready till November. Fingers crossed.
I dont know what would be the best route, direct sale or an indiegogo campaign. Some feedback would be very welcome.


My eastern roman adventure is here
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=114877.msg1455251#msg1455251
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on August 26, 2019, 04:21:02 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence  :)
Im completely new in this endeavor so im trying to move as fast as possible while learning. I was thinking about making at least five hoplite minis, that could be used as officers or hero characters. Then add in some variant heads with historical looking helmets and crests. My aim is to create something I personally would like to buy. Im using museum exhibits and pottery databases as main reference material. I hope that i will be ready till November. Fingers crossed.
I dont know what would be the best route, direct sale or an indiegogo campaign. Some feedback would be very welcome.


My eastern roman adventure is here
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=114877.msg1455251#msg1455251

The eastern Roman looks good!

Maybe you should contact Andy Hobday from Footsore miniatures. To me, it seems that your hoplites are a perfect fit for their range. As a freelancer, which will take all the extra stuff as casting, selling, packaging, customer engagement / problems etc out of your hands. So you can sculpt and make a little bit of money while doing it.

To me that seems the best way to go, otherwise you will be swamped by a lot of work that has nothing to do with sculpting.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 31, 2019, 02:26:07 PM
I sculpted four more heads and im in the process of adding hair, helmets etc.

This one will have no helmet on. Once i mount it on the mini im going to add the longer hair in the back. This is a hairstyle very popular from late archaic till the early classical age judging from the pottery.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on August 31, 2019, 03:31:26 PM
Looking good! :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 31, 2019, 04:50:07 PM
This one has the classical bun, sorta like the samurai one. Its a double tied ponytail that makes long hair more manageable and also works as a neck cushion when the warrior wears his helmet. Later when long hair went out of fashion, men used to tie an actual cushion to the back of their head with their headband

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on August 31, 2019, 08:41:23 PM
Very well done! Keep them coming!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 31, 2019, 11:29:36 PM
I will  :D

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 01, 2019, 06:10:10 AM
You did an EXCELLENT job here!
Such wonderful mini with so well done details deserves a pic enlarged!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 01, 2019, 07:01:31 AM
Thanks Dino
Im sculpting his accessories now, i think im going for that wind blown cape
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 01, 2019, 06:30:20 PM
Perfect!
You have a keen hand and eye for human anatomy, go on!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 05, 2019, 03:48:12 PM
For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts..."
 "This you can trust."
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 05, 2019, 05:42:58 PM
A mini-forge! Oh my!  :o
You could be a successful jeweler!
But in any case, it is jewels that you produce  ;)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 05, 2019, 07:01:10 PM
My trusty 3 euro anvil of Crom  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 05, 2019, 09:39:19 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 06, 2019, 05:14:31 PM
Sword in hand ready for the barbarians
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 06, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
An harmonious pose, defiant and heroic!  :-*
His sword and the folds of the cape very well done!
Congrats!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 06, 2019, 05:39:33 PM
Thanks Dino  :)

Btw the cape is detachable for casting ease but also as an option as the armour underneath is fully detailed
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 06, 2019, 07:02:31 PM
Yes, I saw!
And I saw the amazing way you forged the sword!
You have an eye for that! I mean two  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 06, 2019, 07:11:37 PM
Yes, I saw!
And I saw the amazing way you forged the sword!
You have an eye for that! I mean two  lol

I have an infinite supply of copper wire since we changed the electrical wiring in the house, so Im putting it to use   lol lol lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 07, 2019, 07:18:01 AM
Aha, there is my new Lochagos for Mortal Gods :-*. Terrific miniature. It really is on the same level as the best professional sculptors. Impressive feat!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 13, 2019, 07:46:14 PM
And here i go again. The two next entries taking shape
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on September 14, 2019, 08:38:42 AM
Been away for a few weeks....what a pleasure to discover your stunning progress  :o :-* :o :-* :o :-*....can only reiterate what others have said...”eye for detail”....”feel for anatomy”.....plus count me in when these go on sale....keep up the fine work sir
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 14, 2019, 09:05:07 AM
Thank you very much  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 20, 2019, 11:52:56 AM
Some wip
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 22, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
Looks good!

So with those two you have 5? Have you already found a way to get it cast?

Edit:
What do you think after 5 Greeks to do some Etruscans?
Very interesting read and Mortal Gods currently don't have Etruscans mini's.

https://sculptingpaintingandgaming.com/2019/09/mortal-gods-the-etruscans-part-2-playing-etruscans-and-early-republican-romans-in-mortal-gods/
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 22, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
One ready for the oven, the other getting dressed
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 22, 2019, 01:33:54 PM
Looks good!

So with those two you have 5? Have you already found a way to get it cast?

Edit:
What do you think after 5 Greeks to do some Etruscans?
Very interesting read and Mortal Gods currently don't have Etruscans mini's.

https://sculptingpaintingandgaming.com/2019/09/mortal-gods-the-etruscans-part-2-playing-etruscans-and-early-republican-romans-in-mortal-gods/

Etruscans might be interesting, they are pretty close in style any way, another option could be archaic hoplites which could be also be used in more heroic oriented games.
Also im intending to offer some head variations with different helmets that could be used on victrix models also with some minimal tinkering.

My brother used to work as a caster in a company here in Athens. They are doing many well known brands like Andrea, Pegaso, Maim etc. so the top quality is guaranteed. I have a price quote from them and im also checking out some other options. As a person im a stickler for detail so in any case there is no going to be any GW "finecast" level product going out.

Generally this is a passion project. It would be great if it could turn up some profit, but the main reason im doing it is because i wanted some historically accurate hoplites for me and my mates. And offcourse its great fun. Sculpting for me has the same effect with fishing. You are geting into the zone and leave everything else out.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 22, 2019, 04:26:25 PM
Etruscans might be interesting, they are pretty close in style any way, another option could be archaic hoplites which could be also be used in more heroic oriented games.
Also im intending to offer some head variations with different helmets that could be used on victrix models also with some minimal tinkering.

My brother used to work as a caster in a company here in Athens. They are doing many well known brands like Andrea, Pegaso, Maim etc. so the top quality is guaranteed. I have a price quote from them and im also checking out some other options. As a person im a stickler for detail so in any case there is no going to be any GW "finecast" level product going out.

Generally this is a passion project. It would be great if it could turn up some profit, but the main reason im doing it is because i wanted some historically accurate hoplites for me and my mates. And offcourse its great fun. Sculpting for me has the same effect with fishing. You are geting into the zone and leave everything else out.

That is great! The casting quality will be superbest than. Let me know when you can pre-order them. My paypal is ready for these beautiful mini's!  :-*

A set of heads for Victrix mini's is a great idea!

As Mortal Gods player, I welcome every miniature / conversion set!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 25, 2019, 09:27:26 PM
Well the first of the two new ones looked abit plain to me, so i reworked it adding scales. And more scales  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 26, 2019, 09:03:03 PM
Looks good! Indeed, go for the extra bling with these, more mundane hoplites we have Victrix plastics.  ;)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 26, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Looks good! Indeed, go for the extra bling with these, more mundane hoplites we have Victrix plastics.  ;)
Thats exactly what i thought  :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 28, 2019, 06:50:48 PM
The fifth hoplite is on the way. The thorax needs to be embelished with a gorgoneion and the greaves to be added. I started the basic shape of the gorgoneion on a flat surface and im going to blend it in on the mini, or at least thats the plan.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 28, 2019, 07:06:35 PM
Sorry I intervene, captain, but people must enjoy fully the beauty of your work with a close up!
You are so able with your tools, you could easily mint coins!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 28, 2019, 08:02:26 PM
Thanks Dino, the plan is to put this on the abdominal area and snakes extend to the chest. There is one find like this and i was intrigued
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 28, 2019, 08:04:34 PM
You intrigue us, as well! Eagerly waiting with excitement! Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on September 28, 2019, 09:37:25 PM
Thoroughly enjoying watching your progress...these are going to be SO right for Mortal Gods
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 29, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
Some more wips
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 29, 2019, 10:13:04 PM
Perfect application on the thorax!
Now someone can see in what small scale you sculpted the Gorgoneion!
Cheers
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 29, 2019, 10:21:39 PM
Perfect application on the thorax!
Now someone can see in what small scale you sculpted the Gorgoneion!
Cheers

Another one and i ll be blinded  lol lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 30, 2019, 08:23:22 AM
For the moment, what is blinding is their beauty!  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 30, 2019, 02:54:37 PM
Impressive! I can't wait to start painting it!! :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 03, 2019, 06:37:08 PM
And the body is complete
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 03, 2019, 06:51:41 PM
Amazing! Without a doubt the best 28mm Greeks I have seen!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 03, 2019, 07:06:29 PM
 :-* stunning !!  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: fluffy05 on October 08, 2019, 04:51:30 PM
Your sculpting and attention to detail are beautiful!

Absolutely stunning!  Many thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DonVoss on October 11, 2019, 03:40:34 PM
This is just a great thread.
Full of very cool miniatures....with love for detail. Very well done...

Would love to see some etruscan helmets useable with victrix...;)

Cheers,
Don
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 16, 2019, 11:06:21 PM
i ve been sculpting afew heads with corinthian helmets mostly
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: M.O.T.N on October 17, 2019, 06:42:53 AM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 17, 2019, 02:07:14 PM
The heads look great!
Do you have an update about a possible release?
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 17, 2019, 03:17:39 PM
Thanks for the support guys!
Right now Im sculpting some crests. I want those guys to really stand out, as they are intended to be used as Heroes and officers. I want to also offer a boeotian shield varriant (the one with the cut aways). Im also thinking about sculpting a separate spear point and spear butt, these would be slotted in a metallic rod. That would make the production simpler and it would be sturdier for gaming. My plan is to get everything ready by the end of the week.
Then there is the production. I would really like to have the first run out within the next month and certainly before xmas. I was planning to work with basically the single proper casting company we have in Greece. They are 10 min drive from my home, I know the guys and my brother used to work there. There are two problems. 1) the price for the molds and casting in resin is really steep, considering that Greece is a financial post-apocalyptic wasteland now. 2) They are really busy and they have big customers like Pegaso, Maim and Andrea, so that means some waiting time.

So there are two solutions.
1) Have a crowd funding campaign in indiegogo (we dont get Kickstarter in Greece), so that I wont fork out the production money out of my own pocket, and have the company do the work.

2) Be a true renaissance man, buy the materials and get myself into molding and casting the same way I got myself into sculpting. This time a bit easier task since my brother has some experience on the field. In that way I have a better chance of getting the production money back and if all goes well maybe a small amount of pocket money for future projects.

Im being totally honest and open about this. Im doing this first and foremost because Im having a blast. I dont care about man hours, many times I scraped stuff that my mates thought as ''perfectly fine'' and started over because it didnt sit well with me. I really want the best I can do with the skill I have at every point. Thats why Im keep pushing the envelope and doing things more difficult for me  lol. Most manufacturers that offer Greeks tend to gloss over details or missmatch periods. For example if a helmet looks ''greeky'' enough, then its a pass. I wanted THAT specific helmet/armour featuring in pottery or the archaeological museum. Nobody did it so I decided to do it for myself. Im not doing it on a  ''I have to make x minis a week for y amount of money per mini'' . So at any case Im not expecting to get paid for that time and attention.

Again I really thank you for the support and motivation
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: M.O.T.N on October 17, 2019, 05:35:18 PM
Continuing conversation from my thread, if you have questions or want advice on anything drop me a PM.

Take option 2 here - you will learn so much doing the mould making and casting yourself that it will make you a better miniature designer. When you do get someone else to do the mould making and casting they will thank you for it, less work for them to do in terms of tweaking your sculpts. Having your brother to help will be a huge bonus.

Thats the way I learned. The absolute worst part was when mould makers sent stuff back and I had to make adjustments, it's soul destroying when you think you are finished and onto something new... then old sculpts come back for changes. Or the mould works out fine... but you made the ankles or the bow too thin and it breaks when removing it from the mould (resin), or there's a high failure rate in metal because of how thin the part is.

Imagine you ran a crowdfunder and then some of these issue cropped up, talk about stress.

Sculpt a very simple and straight pose, rear rank perhaps, and use that as the test mini for your first mould.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 17, 2019, 06:27:04 PM
Go for option 2. It will be more difficult and more work, but it will probably be the more interesting / rewarding option in the long run.

You can maybe do a small pre-order here on the forum and maybe in a couple of facebook groups to recover the cost of the moulding / casting material.

You can sign me up for the pre-order!

I love how detailed your work is!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Ethelred the Almost Ready on October 17, 2019, 06:55:30 PM
I have enjoyed following this thread.  The figures look great and I would certainly be happy to make a small pre-order.  I know nothing about casting/sculpting, but option 2 seems to make sense for the reasons given.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 17, 2019, 07:20:26 PM
Thanks guys!
@ Tonhel & Ethelred the Almost Ready
Much appreciated. The cost for the materials is reasonable, so there is no need to go the preorder route. Im trying to always put myself in the shoes of the customer (even in my regular job, graphic design) and I think that nobody likes to wait or be anxious of when and if he will receive his order.

@ M.O.T.N
Thanks for the solid advice. Im most probably going the diy way. I already know from my brother's experience that a mold will give at best 30 good copies before it has to be replaced. So outsourcing takes a headache away but unlike metal casting, the procedure has to be repeated (and payed) multiple times. The molding costs will never be evened out no matter how many copies are sold. I ve been asked to cut the minis in many places and I wasnt very keen on that because I know that most people dont like to deal with parts.  Offcource there have to be some cuts, but I want to do the absolute necessary, not what saves the casting service 10 minutes of working time.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Muzfish4 on October 17, 2019, 10:53:47 PM
I have been following and enjoying this thread.

I know that you don't want to go with the preorder option to avoid stressing backers but maybe a limited preorder that stresses the items will be ready when they are and that anyone hopping on the preorder has to accept this as a condition of joining.

I'd be very comfortable with that approach and would not stress one iota as I'd know that quality takes time and that was precisely what I signed up for.

Good luck with whatever deliver option you end up going with.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 20, 2019, 06:16:17 PM
ok a small wip sneak peak, while Im working on details
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 20, 2019, 06:27:58 PM
Awesome crest!
And the posture is reminiscent of old statues!
You are doing an epic job!
Keep them coming, Captain!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 20, 2019, 08:07:07 PM
Magnificent :-*

I really need that one as my Lochagos for Mortal Gods. He is sublime. Fantastic work!

Edit: You are really talented. Your work is of the same quality as the top sculptors that work for Footsore and Claymore casting! Really impressive work!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: swiftnick on October 20, 2019, 08:35:29 PM
Absolutely outstanding!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: M.O.T.N on October 21, 2019, 07:00:00 AM
Great stuff. Do you have any shots next to a ruler or something to gauge the size of the sculpts, especially the weaponry? Some of the smaller stuff like the spear might be a pain for casting.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 21, 2019, 07:51:21 AM
Great stuff. Do you have any shots next to a ruler or something to gauge the size of the sculpts, especially the weaponry? Some of the smaller stuff like the spear might be a pain for casting.
Im going to make some final pictures once everything is assembled. Im replacing the spear. I will make a point and a sauroter that will fit into a rod, to avoid casting a fragile shaft. Maybe the crest of the first one is too thin, the rest are ok I hope. I ve seen smaller parts being casted in resin and I have two metallic Mortal Gods minis, that have the same sizes even if the detail is somewhat crude. I think the hardest part will be deciding the parts that need to be cut.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 21, 2019, 07:54:23 AM
and another small update
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 21, 2019, 12:31:11 PM
Lovely! :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 21, 2019, 02:38:37 PM
The elaboration of the crest base is of unbelievable beauty!
Your aesthetic approach makes this project unique!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 21, 2019, 06:22:59 PM
thanks guys!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 25, 2019, 12:45:03 AM
The boys
No they are not dancing disco  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: M.O.T.N on October 25, 2019, 06:25:53 AM
Very cool image.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 25, 2019, 06:44:01 AM
Incredible!

I see for my Mortal Gods warbands. Two heavy lochagos, one heavy promachos and two veteran hoplites.  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 25, 2019, 08:26:39 AM
The most Greek hoplites I've seen!
And in perfect human proportions!  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Hu Rhu on October 25, 2019, 08:55:30 AM
No they are not dancing disco  lol

I can definitely see WMCA there.  lol lol

On a serious note they are excellently sculpted, full of character and detail.   :-* :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: bluewillow on October 26, 2019, 08:41:17 PM
Supurb sculpting work, you are to be aploauded. Great detail, where did you get the idea of the helmet plume design from? Not seen it before, although admittedly I mostly look for shield designs when looking at period pottery.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 26, 2019, 08:49:30 PM
Supurb sculpting work, you are to be aploauded. Great detail, where did you get the idea of the helmet plume design from? Not seen it before, although admittedly I mostly look for shield designs when looking at period pottery.

Cheers
Matt

Thanks for your kind words!
Most of the inspiration came from a greek pottery database and museum exhibits.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: FramFramson on October 26, 2019, 09:32:07 PM
The boys
No they are not dancing disco  lol
The Horio People lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 27, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
 :-* every time I go away the next time I hit the forum I find even more of your incredible work...truly jaw dropping sculpts...you have a great eye for detail that is perfectly matched with your sculpting abilities...just wow !
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on December 20, 2019, 07:15:11 PM
Hey,

Do you have more news about your miniatures?
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on December 21, 2019, 10:35:59 PM
hi
Sorry for not updating the therad.
My original plan was to manage to be done with the production before xmass. But there was some life distractions AND the process of learning how to mold and cast by myself because basically the real info out there are very limited. The good news is that there is good progress into the right direction. The bad news is that Im not quite there yet and I will need some more time. Meanning that I managed to produce results but there are not always consistent because I dont have a proper vacuum chamber, the minis are relatively complicated and detailed (even for an experienced caster) and that means random bubbles. Not always but they occur often enough to make the production needing more attention and time that I can allow in order to mainten competitive prices. I can make a diy vacuum chamber, I already made a diy silent air compressor so this will be alot more easier.  Anyway its a given that you never launch during xmass and early January when everybody's wallets are trying to recover  ;D

I will soon post some pics. I already have some of my heads on Victrix bodies for my own MG army.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on December 22, 2019, 08:13:45 AM
Hi!
This is excellent news!
It is an arduous job, for sure! And the task you have undertaken needs patience, funding, more patience, trial and error, more patience  :)
And the will to continue and fulfill your task!!! And I'm sure you're on track of it!
Seasons greetings and keep up the good job!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on December 22, 2019, 08:16:05 AM
Sounds good to me!

I am looking forward to the pictures and progress! :-*

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on December 26, 2019, 08:22:31 AM
hi
Sorry for not updating the therad.
My original plan was to manage to be done with the production before xmass. But there was some life distractions AND the process of learning how to mold and cast by myself because basically the real info out there are very limited. The good news is that there is good progress into the right direction. The bad news is that Im not quite there yet and I will need some more time. Meanning that I managed to produce results but there are not always consistent because I dont have a proper vacuum chamber, the minis are relatively complicated and detailed (even for an experienced caster) and that means random bubbles. Not always but they occur often enough to make the production needing more attention and time that I can allow in order to mainten competitive prices. I can make a diy vacuum chamber, I already made a diy silent air compressor so this will be alot more easier.  Anyway its a given that you never launch during xmass and early January when everybody's wallets are trying to recover  ;D

I will soon post some pics. I already have some of my heads on Victrix bodies for my own MG army.

Merry Christmas!

I would love to see pictures of your MG army! :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on May 31, 2020, 09:11:50 PM
I ve been a busy little bee all this time. Trying to unlock the secrets of molding and casting.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: M.O.T.N on May 31, 2020, 10:10:44 PM
Looks like good progress! It's a painful learning process. Look forward to seeing you paint some.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on June 01, 2020, 05:43:12 AM
This is a very good start!  :-*
Good luck for the continuation, Captain!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on June 01, 2020, 06:21:19 AM
Looks promising!

Hopefully it will work!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on June 01, 2020, 08:05:24 AM
That was yesterday's work, there are alot more. Im trying to fine tune some molds, its a slow learning process, there are not much info out there. Im thinking that maybe I should post more stuff about the procedure (and failings), maybe that could be of use to somebody, or even start a dialogue that will provide useful info. What do you say?
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on June 01, 2020, 09:23:05 AM
That was yesterday's work, there are alot more. Im trying to fine tune some molds, its a slow learning process, there are not much info out there. Im thinking that maybe I should post more stuff about the procedure (and failings), maybe that could be of use to somebody, or even start a dialogue that will provide useful info. What do you say?

Dialogue is always helpful!
Dear friend, I would suggest to post your works and queries also to the Workbench section.
I'm sure you'll meet there some gentlemen willing to provide useful info!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on June 08, 2020, 02:12:52 PM
Great to see this thread come back to life Captain Harlock...good luck in your endeavours and stay safe
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 22, 2020, 06:12:00 PM
Major update incoming soon...
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on September 22, 2020, 06:43:47 PM
Bravo Captain! Superb!!! Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on September 22, 2020, 08:08:57 PM
I love it! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 22, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
thank you guys!
Through trial and error it seems that I cracked (to a degree) the riddle of resin  lol
The first batch of sets is ready. I will come back soon with pics and more details.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on September 22, 2020, 11:10:15 PM
Late to the party here, but.... wow!!!! I can't even begin to conceptualize how to do any of this. Are you a wizard?  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Arche Seleukeia on September 24, 2020, 03:22:15 PM
Incredible work!   :-* :o
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Steam Flunky on September 26, 2020, 07:11:20 PM
Very impressed!!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 01, 2020, 08:57:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KufEomj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/b1zFDRs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/onKz7eR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HpraLQR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sTQT6Lb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OrABCED.jpg)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 01, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
These are unprimered resin put together. Τhe small random specs in some are just discolored resin by the talcum powder used in the molds. I prefer talcum because it reduces the chances of having air pockets, and the cast parts do not have to be washed with soap after they are demolded.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 01, 2020, 09:26:41 PM
Excellent anatomy!
Very skilled hand and a keen eye for detail!
Bravo!!!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Muzfish4 on October 02, 2020, 02:34:56 AM
They all look super-duper double plus good.

I'll be pledging/advance ordering/whatevering for some to these guys when they become available!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 02, 2020, 03:18:15 PM
They all look super-duper double plus good.

I'll be pledging/advance ordering/whatevering for some to these guys when they become available!

+1!

The mini's are masterpieces and the casting looks perfect! I can't wait! :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 07, 2020, 03:11:22 PM
 :-* Just superb....count me in when it’s time to order
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 15, 2020, 07:08:28 PM
I want to thank you all guys for your kind words! :-*
Ok so let me update you on whats going on. The minis will be available in sets. Each set will include the 5 different Hoplite models already displayed. I have about 25 sets ready to go. I can hear somebody asking ''Hey! Why are you not selling single minis?''. Here are the reasons.

A) I believe in the product. Im not trying to bundle one cool mini with 4 more lesser ones. Each mini has a unique pose and appeal imo and all of them could serve as ''captains'' and ''hero'' characters when combined with mass produced plastic kits.

B) Cheaper shipping for you (either you get one mini, or the set the price is the same since their weight is minimal), less visits to the post office (especially during this pandemic) and less hours on logistics for me. Its a win win.

C) This is a garage kit. That does not mean that the quality is compromised, as you saw in the photos (thats why I prefered to show you the plain resin and not the ''greens'' or primed, or painted/photoshoped end results. But I can only produce small quantities and given that each mold can give around 30-35 good casts and then it has to be replaced, I cant have a situation where I wont be able to put together sets because single minis are missing.

Beside the main sets I have an accessorie set of extra heads. These will be available as extra purchaces and will be able to be combined in shipping with the figures set. These heads could be used on the main range or used to spice up your Victrix hoplites with more historicaly accurate helmets and crests. The crests are coming seperately so you can mix and match. The plan is to produce some more elaborate crests (and more heads) in the future that will allow you to assemble Strategoi and Lochagoi, from mainland Greece, Asia Minor and Magna Grecia. I am posting afew quick snaps bellow.

(https://i.imgur.com/o5iy00n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VOnCFpi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mnDABXB.jpg)

Also I understand that it would be quite counter productive to have that nameless range, from that guy in LAF forums with a Captain Harlock avatar, I had to give my miniature endevour a proper name. So ladies and gentlemen I give you... drum roll...

(https://i.imgur.com/4yLAlIH.png)

I will ask for permission from our lovely hosts to make a commercial thread, and there I will be announcing pricing, shipping and my Paypal details. Been whole honest Im not expecting to make money from all this. I would be very glad if I would manage to have this labour of love being able to pay for itself, allowing me to buy more materials, better equipment, trying new things and  adding to this range but also producing new ones. But the most important thing is to know that the little clay thing you were tinkering with, is out there and somebody hundrends or thousands miles away, is enjoying painting it, converting it and playing with it.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 15, 2020, 07:52:37 PM
Captain,
Congratulations for your outstanding work so far!
My warmest wishes for all the best in the future!
Keep up this good and unique job!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on October 15, 2020, 09:17:34 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Muzfish4 on October 16, 2020, 01:17:47 AM
Terrific stuff - love the logo!

Might you also consider an accessory set of shields and suchlike for tarting up the skellies from Wargames Atlantic?

Anyway, please do keep us posted and good luck with it all.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Harry Faversham on October 16, 2020, 07:43:05 AM
You can put me down for a set Cap'n!

 :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 16, 2020, 10:07:18 AM
Terrific stuff - love the logo!

Might you also consider an accessory set of shields and suchlike for tarting up the skellies from Wargames Atlantic?

Anyway, please do keep us posted and good luck with it all.

Oh yes absolutely! Im also considering a set of Boeotian shields (the ones with the double cut away). I also want to make a set of archaic hoplites, with more armour parts. A tradition that fell out of fashion in mainland Greece but kept on in the italian colonies and Etruria. Etruscan hoplites are also very appealing to me. Frankly there are so many inspiring themes that could be done.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 16, 2020, 01:11:51 PM
I love it! Put me on the list for a pre-order. I also want the heads! :-*

Oh yes absolutely! Im also considering a set of Boeotian shields (the ones with the double cut away). I also want to make a set of archaic hoplites, with more armour parts. A tradition that fell out of fashion in mainland Greece but kept on in the italian colonies and Etruria. Etruscan hoplites are also very appealing to me. Frankly there are so many inspiring themes that could be done.

This sounds fantastic! I am really looking forward how this range will expand!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 16, 2020, 07:08:53 PM
 :-* this is all great news Captain....also I love your ethos as much as your logo ....the extra heads are Wow ! :-* ...if there are pre orders please put me down for a set of both
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 16, 2020, 11:39:33 PM
Im also thinking that maybe in the future I could offer some shield device (episimon) decals. Almost 20 years ago I used to be very active in the modding community of Total War games. I was part of a mode called Hegemonia Total War, which was an almost total conversion of Rome Total war, as an illustrator, skin designer. Our aim was to create a game about ancient greek conflicts, from the persian to the peloponnesian wars, marking almost all the greek cities on the map, each one with its own units and devices. We did and extensive research on city emblems and shield devices and when we could not find solid evidence, we used the iconography of coinage to produce our own plausible devices. In the end the whole endeavour never got beyond the beta stage, but our previews presented most of our graphics and pieces of artwork are still floating in the internet, many times being ripped off by military editions and such  lol
I guess some of you are familiar with images similar in style with this
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/32/5e/e5325ec891c6323483c997678027d8ff.jpg)

There are lots and lots more. These were created by me and a fellow Greek illustrator, and I have the  illustrator work files, meanning that I could print high quality decals. I will contact my friend and talk with him about this, but it would be nice to hear if there is actual interest.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 17, 2020, 12:00:09 AM
  :-* :-* :-* Me me me !  lol .....seriously though those shield designs look fantastic and coinage is a superb reference....hopefully we will all get to benefit from the fruit of your labours

Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 17, 2020, 06:43:58 AM
Many congratulations are not enough for this outstanding job!
You made exceptionally fine graphics, besides the subtle work to minimum detail and the extensive research, I even admire the glaze!
This is an enviable art I'd like to learn!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 17, 2020, 07:33:35 AM
I am certainly interested, but it's not so easy to fit a decal on a hoplon. I really like the LBM transfers, but it's not so easy to get them on without to much wrinkles.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 17, 2020, 10:27:11 AM
...... it's not so easy to fit a decal on a hoplon. I really like the LBM transfers, but it's not so easy to get them on without to much wrinkles.

The trick is to use a scalpel or very sharp blade to carefully slice the small circle of backing paper to the decal into “pie slices” before you soak it...add some decal setting solution when you position it and you will have no wrinkles ;)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 17, 2020, 10:47:59 AM
I am certainly interested, but it's not so easy to fit a decal on a hoplon. I really like the LBM transfers, but it's not so easy to get them on without to much wrinkles.

Decal solution will do the trick. There are many brands, its a two fluids system, one is the one that helps set the decal and the other is a softener that makes it follow all the crevices and contours.

Caution this apply only to real water transfered decals. Not stickers.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 17, 2020, 10:55:53 AM
Many congratulations are not enough for this outstanding job!
You made exceptionally fine graphics, besides the subtle work to minimum detail and the extensive research, I even admire the glaze!
This is an enviable art I'd like to learn!

Thank you Dino for your kind words. Actually this is my real job, im a graphic designer and illustrator. Im used Adobe programs, specificaly for this kind of things Photoshop and Illustrator. The real design happens in Illustrator. Its not that hard if you put the hours in. If you are interested in learning, i could point you to some good tutorials.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: DintheDin on October 17, 2020, 10:58:41 AM
Thank you Dino for your kind words. Actually this is my real job, im a graphic designer and illustrator. Im used Adobe programs, specificaly for this kind of things Photoshop and Illustrator. The real design happens in Illustrator. Its not that hard if you put the hours in. If you are interested in learning, i could point you to some good tutorials.

Yes, I would!!! I usually design maps, but I'd like to design flags also. Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on October 17, 2020, 01:08:46 PM
Im also thinking that maybe in the future I could offer some shield device (episimon) decals. Almost 20 years ago I used to be very active in the modding community of Total War games. I was part of a mode called Hegemonia Total War, which was an almost total conversion of Rome Total war, as an illustrator, skin designer. Our aim was to create a game about ancient greek conflicts, from the persian to the peloponnesian wars, marking almost all the greek cities on the map, each one with its own units and devices. We did and extensive research on city emblems and shield devices and when we could not find solid evidence, we used the iconography of coinage to produce our own plausible devices. In the end the whole endeavour never got beyond the beta stage, but our previews presented most of our graphics and pieces of artwork are still floating in the internet, many times being ripped off by military editions and such  lol
I guess some of you are familiar with images similar in style with this
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/32/5e/e5325ec891c6323483c997678027d8ff.jpg)

There are lots and lots more. These were created by me and a fellow Greek illustrator, and I have the  illustrator work files, meanning that I could print high quality decals. I will contact my friend and talk with him about this, but it would be nice to hear if there is actual interest.

Hmm, I am pretty sure I've seen those kicking around on the internet, as I've been looking for reference images for my own shield transfers :D I wish I had any kind of clue how to make them look that good, but I'm no artist :)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Muzfish4 on October 17, 2020, 11:31:13 PM
Oh yes absolutely! Im also considering a set of Boeotian shields (the ones with the double cut away). I also want to make a set of archaic hoplites, with more armour parts. A tradition that fell out of fashion in mainland Greece but kept on in the italian colonies and Etruria. Etruscan hoplites are also very appealing to me. Frankly there are so many inspiring themes that could be done.

Great news - archaic armour woudl be most welcome.

The decals look good. I'm not sure I'd be looking at using them but would definitely consider (and probably relent) as I build up my forces.

You see, I'm not that good with temptation...
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on October 22, 2020, 12:44:12 AM
now look what the cat dragged in...
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on October 22, 2020, 01:15:22 AM
Very nice! If you extend your talents to Thebans (or the Hellenistic age generally), I have a feeling my digital wallet will be getting a fair bit lighter!  lol
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on October 22, 2020, 04:15:27 AM
That’s one very smart cat you’ve got Captain ;)   Lovely work indeed...so evocative that I can already imagine painting it
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on October 22, 2020, 06:18:16 AM
Beautiful! Since Footsore released their Greeks for Mortal Gods, I had a great time painting them and playing the Mortal Gods ruleset. So all your Greeks will be a great addition. :-*

I would love to see a set of Athenian Marine Akontistai (Mortal Gods), thus three light armoured bodies, with attached left arm for the hoplon with seperate head and seperate right arm. Than a variety of right arms with spears and javalins and heads. So that you can make with the three bodies a couple of different units of three.

I really like all the characters you are doing and can't wait to pre-order them, but as a Mortal Gods player I would love to see you do some units of three to spice up my Lochogos. I like the Victrix plastics, but some more variety would be great.  :D



Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: jcspqr on October 23, 2020, 07:11:02 PM
Your sculpts look great.  I also think there is definitely a market out there for quality (water slide) hoplite transfers.  As previously mentioned, the LBM transfers are great, but they just don't really work on domed hoplons.

Looking forward to seeing your business go live.

Jim
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 02, 2020, 07:34:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IARhvcE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y9DQfBz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4aNlNNT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zBL8v6s.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zr2Zbwx.jpg)

This is the grey primed resin cast of the Spartan General. I just have to find the time to take some photos of the rest of the set and I will announce prices and shipping in a new commercial thread. We are going live in the next days! Gentlemen start your engines!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on November 02, 2020, 08:02:15 PM
Yay! :-*

Lysandros looks great!
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 02, 2020, 08:17:03 PM
Yay! :-*

Lysandros looks great!
Ηe will be included in the set.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Muzfish4 on November 02, 2020, 10:07:26 PM
Awesome!

I am delighted to see this project progress to this stage.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: M.O.T.N on November 03, 2020, 01:42:36 PM
Great stuff, glad to see you keep going with this, well worth the effort.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on November 03, 2020, 06:45:40 PM
Great news and another excellent figure....shall be waiting for your launch announcement
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on November 04, 2020, 07:48:45 PM
Ηe will be included in the set.

I am daily checking this page. :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 07, 2020, 08:09:47 PM
Ok guys the latest update.
I have about 30+ sets of minis already cast. Practically I was ready to go live BUT nobody expects the Greek Ministry of Health  lol. The whole pandemic second phase doesnt look that good and a national 3 weeks lock down had to be enforced. That means that moving around for people in non essential occupations is restricted to groceries, medical reasons, brief walks for exercise or to take out pets etc. The post office is supposed to be working, but the key word is SUPPOSED lol.

I want your opinions on the available options.

1) Go live and take preorders that will be fullfilled in the first days of December when the lock down will be lifted. (the minis are already cast, just need to be boxed)

2) Go live and fullfill as many of the orders Im able due to the restrictions. I cant go every day to the post office so that means that there will be a shipping once every Friday in order to be able to send as many as possible parcels on one go.

Im just trying to find the best and less annoying sollution for everybody.

The shipping option will be A class registered mail with tracking number in order to avoid ''exciting surprises'' due to the pandemic situation.
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Tonhel on November 07, 2020, 10:13:30 PM
My egotistical answer is option 2 and a reservation of one the thirty finished sets.  ;)

But if option 1 it's the easiest and less stressful way for  you, than please chose that option. The whole pandemic with various lockdowns is already stressful enough, so maybe wait until december.

I am already happy that it is happening.  :-*
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Burnin Coal on November 10, 2020, 09:02:01 PM
For what its worth ($0.002) I’d go for option one...that way everyone knows they’ve been shipped and you don’t have to go to the Post Office every time an order comes in....I will however be happy with whatever you ultimately decide...as soon as you go live I’m in
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 15, 2020, 09:44:29 PM
Gentlemen we are open for business

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=128151.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=128151.0)
Title: Re: Captain Harlock's Hoplites-Making a boeotian shield
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 23, 2020, 05:02:08 PM
I decided to make  a boeotian shield. The boeotian shields co-existed with the early versions of hoplon. They were an evolution of the eight-shaped mycenean shields and unlike the wooden core hoplon, they were built over a wicker frame. There are no surviving examples, but there are numerous depictions in pottery, terracota miniatures and statuettes. In the pottery depictions usually they are carried by homeric heroes, mythical beings like the giant Gyriones and Gods, emphasising perhaps the old fashion nature of this shield.

First I made a milliput form in the right shape and curvature. Then I flattened a layer of magic sculpt + green stuff on top of the master form, in order to make a shell. I trimmed it down and filed the cut aways. Then using plasticard I made the rim. Glued it on and chopped the cut away parts.

(https://i.imgur.com/1QjUCVY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aOasoL0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B6I9nQe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7eggbPG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WkuwMcv.jpg)