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Other Stuff => General Wargames and Hobby Discussion => Topic started by: carlos marighela on August 07, 2019, 08:28:58 PM
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Well, maybe their future basing choices.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/aug/07/royal-mint-paused-creation-of-1p-and-2p-coins-last-year
As they say, save your pennies. :)
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yep.. I've been anticipating this one for a while. Time to start stockpiling 1 & 2p coins.
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I still have a tin of ½ps when they were discontinued for potential basing but I still haven't found a use for them :)
Showing my age now lol
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The article clearly states that there are no plans to discontinue either coin.
The decline in general use of currency simply means that no more need be made at present as there are enough in circulation to meet demand.
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And the article clearly doesn't understand that circulation will drop if more gamers hit their 40's and take up Napoleonic wargaming... :D
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Already struck over here, a few years back, in fact.
While the loss of the penny is no annoyance economically, I do have tons of hoarded pennies as they're my primary basing material.
Nickels on the other hand, are great for basing slightly larger figures (only the biggest ones need quarters or washers), but bloody hell are they an oversized annoyance in the pocket.
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Nickels on the other hand, are great for basing slightly larger figures (only the biggest ones need quarters or washers), but bloody hell are they an oversized annoyance in the pocket.
The miniatures or the coins?
halfpence pieces are still available via evil-bay.
even if they did get rid of the 1 pence coins from legal tender, I suspect, given the numbers of them in existence, we will still not run out of them in our lifetimes or two.
We may however, either not be able to afford to buy them, or desperately need them for their original purpose very soon.
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Funnily enough, we said the same thing in Oz, thirty odd years ago when the 1 and 2 cent pieces were withdrawn from circulation. It was remarkable how quickly they disappeared and I, like many others, had jars of the bloody things sitting atop the fridge.
The average punter soon gets used to rounding to the nearest five cents and the joy of not having tons of shrapnel in your pocket is soon apparent. People will readily take their penny jars and empty them at bank counters when the time comes.
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This is one of those funny moments.
One of the reasons they had been considering removing them from circulation in the UK is the number of them seemingly disappearing into jars, backs of sofas, draws or on the bottom of wargames miniatures. They are out there but not being used which means they were not seeing the value in them circulating.
Personally I have never based on coins for the avbove reason. I prefer plastic bases from renedra and then to afix a magnetic disc to the bottom if I need them to be magnetic for any reason.
I find it amusing that using them as wargaming bases is a contributing factor to the consideration of removing them from circulation and thus scaring those that use them as such that their source of bases may be removed!
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It doesn't seem that long ago they appealed for people to take their copper jars in to banks as there was a shortage of coins.
I don't think I've based figures on coins for nearly thirty years.
But the one musing I've often. Had(but never serious enough to bother looking it up.)
Is Does using coins for figures count under the 1971 currency act as defacing the coinage of the realm.
As its illegal to deface or distroy a coin minted after 1969.(oddly enough its not illegal to physically distroy a note ie burn it . But marking the surface is )
I only know this as I had to sit through a lecture from a museum curator its the only bit of info that stuck from an entire mind numbing day.
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I take especial pleasure in super-gluing bases onto the head of the sovereign. I don't believe that gluing things on counts as defacing though.
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I stopped using coins and switched to Renedra plastic bases.
I realised in the dreaded event of a 'spill', figure juggling and general dropping of painted figures, the 1p and 2p would chip the paint off figures they collide with where plastic bases wouldn't.
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That and super glue on metal will break far easier than plastic to plastic with plastic glue or super glue. Seen mini's ping off coins when dropped.
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I agree, figures can come off coins as bases, but it saves me a separate stage of adding magnetised or steel paper to plastic ones.
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Sticking things to British coins is fine. What you can't do is destroy or break them up, which is bizarre seeing as pointed out above you can destroy notes but not deface them.
My dad taught me these things. Firstly by terrifying a smaller me that he would go to jail for treason by drilling pennies to use as washers. Secondly by burning fivers in a management
meeting to demonstrate how quickly they were losing money.
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Should I ever have the chance to meet the queen I'd like to think I'll have the good sense not to mention the number of times I've drilled a hole in her head. ;D
Though pinning's really only necessary for figures with a very small amount of basing surface area. Most of the time plain old 2-part epoxy is more than strong enough. Superglue is no good. Also, always make sure your pennies are clean! Basing on grime and dirt can obviously lead to a poor bond (I actually burnish or sand mine a bit if they're at all used).
I still prefer metal bases over plastic ones for the stability they provide, and since washers of the correct size both cost more than 1c each and have an inconvenient hole in them, well, pennies is an easy winner there. They're also nearly a perfect size for keeping the footprint of the mini bases small, as opposed to most slottas etc. allowing you to place minis far more readily in tighter spaces, thus opening up more terrain options.
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I still have a tin of ½ps when they were discontinued for potential basing but I still haven't found a use for them :)
Showing my age now lol
I based my Perry sculpted late 19th century British on shillings (okay mainly on full size five pence pieces, not the current smarties ones).
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I agree, figures can come off coins as bases, but it saves me a separate stage of adding magnetised or steel paper to plastic ones.
Steel coins are a recent introduction - coppers were non magnetic.
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The article clearly states that there are no plans to discontinue either coin.
The decline in general use of currency simply means that no more need be made at present as there are enough in circulation to meet demand.
Another contributing factor was the withdrawal of the chocolate coin format pound coin.
When the deadline for the pound coin loomed, there was a lot of sorting through change boxes - and while they were at it other coins were returned into circulation. No twenty pence pieces were minted (I think) last year.
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I do have currently in stock a number of 1p and 2p coins available to the discerning wargamer for 5p/10p respectively :)
Also, a limited stock of the steel coppers to save you time on steel paper. Phone me for prices lol
If anyone tells you that Wilko’s 25mm steel washers are available in large bags working out at less than 2p each, ignore them, they are black market scum and will be dealt with most harshly!
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I take especial pleasure in super-gluing bases onto the head of the sovereign. I don't believe that gluing things on counts as defacing though.
I always glue figures to the reverse of the penny - apart from my 28mm New Model Army, whose boots are squarely on the face of the monarch!
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I always glue figures to the reverse of the penny - apart from my 28mm New Model Army, whose boots are squarely on the face of the monarch!
Entirely appropriate, and if you read up on what most WW2 British Vets thought of the Royals, it's entirely appropriate for them as well.
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Most of the time plain old 2-part epoxy is more than strong enough.
Horrible stuff. Only use in utter desperation. Stinks, sets off my asthma and is generally just rubbish to work with.
Not the sort of thing I want to be doing on 20+ miniatures!!
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I take especial pleasure in super-gluing bases onto the head of the sovereign. I don't believe that gluing things on counts as defacing though.
We always glue on the reverse, we have found that figures glued on the face tend to be unlucky, so any bought second hand get carefully checked and if glued on the face only get used when lent to an opponent.
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I never glue a figure to the side with the Queens head on. Seems kinda rude :)
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Guess I'm not much of a anarchist lol but veering dangerously close to politics, so I will leave it there.
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Horrible stuff. Only use in utter desperation. Stinks, sets off my asthma and is generally just rubbish to work with.
Not the sort of thing I want to be doing on 20+ miniatures!!
Bit of a pain sometimes, yes, but far stronger than anything else, so I live with the annoyances of it.
Superglue just doesn't do for metals in my experience.
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Bit of a pain sometimes, yes, but far stronger than anything else, so I live with the annoyances of it.
Superglue just doesn't do for metals in my experience.
I base figures on washers. I stick ‘em on with superglue. Were I to leave the washer unadorned, I might agree with you. But then the washer and base get a mixture of either:
a) PVA and sand.
b) Superglue and sand.
Which one I use is largely a matter of whim but by the time the basing material is stick to washer and figure base, it’s unlikely to shift easily, even if dropped.
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When the shilling style five pence was replaced by the "Smartie" style, I ended up with a piece of conduit pipe sharpened on a sander that I used as a punch to make circular bases from plastic sheet.
Figures tended to be superglued (I had one figure I epoxied, bad mix that was still weeping three years later after application with of more epoxy, milliput, superglue, Humbrol enamels....). The bases are then smoothed with milliput and then PVA followed by gritty stuff (now fine model railway ballast).
Sometimes when dropped the figure plus sculpted base would shear the off coin in one piece.
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Guess I'm not much of a anarchist lol but veering dangerously close to politics, so I will leave it there.
Don't you mean anorakist? :D
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Don't you mean anorakist? :D
Spool chicken strikes again. I typed monarchist.
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When the shilling style five pence was replaced by the "Smartie" style, I ended up with a piece of conduit pipe sharpened on a sander that I used as a punch to make circular bases from plastic sheet.
Figures tended to be superglued (I had one figure I epoxied, bad mix that was still weeping three years later after application with of more epoxy, milliput, superglue, Humbrol enamels....). The bases are then smoothed with milliput and then PVA followed by gritty stuff (now fine model railway ballast).
Sometimes when dropped the figure plus sculpted base would shear the off coin in one piece.
I have to go back to a few of my figures. Most of my current builds are Perry plastics and metals, which is no problem, glued directly to coins, then I add PVA + sand. I have had one crack off the base when dropped, but generally they are very robust. I di make a stupid mistake with support troops in Chain of Command where I uses Warlord plastics an glued the whole round plastic base on to a coin, which isn't a good bond. I should have used plastic cement to weld the figs on to the warlord plastic bases, then clipped the base smaller, then glued on, so the PVA and sand mix acts to help hold the plastic base to the coin.
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Having watched a piece on BBC 1's 'Click' programme this morning I think it might be time to start stockpiling after all. They had a debit card on which can read your thumb print. You place your thumb on at 5 different angles so it can build up a picture, and then you're good to go. It is anticipated that this will be so secure that they will be able to lift spending limits on these cards, which automatically does away with the need to carry cash.
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Having watched a piece on BBC 1's 'Click' programme this morning I think it might be time to start stockpiling after all. They had a debit card on which can read your thumb print. You place your thumb on at 5 different angles so it can build up a picture, and then you're good to go. It is anticipated that this will be so secure that they will be able to lift spending limits on these cards, which automatically does away with the need to carry cash.
The only time I take out cash now is to pay subs at wargames club.
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I base my 25/28mm figures on 25mm washers. I bought 2000 of them some years back and still have a lot left.
The use of more steel in the british coins means they are now magnetic, so I base my 20mm ww2 figures on them. If they announce their withdrawal I will go and get £20 of pennies and 2p pieces from the bank. That should see me out.
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And the article clearly doesn't understand that circulation will drop if more gamers hit their 40's and take up Napoleonic wargaming... :D
lol lol