They sure do. I wish i was this good with greenstuff... it always looks so crisp when you do it. How did you master that?Thanks.
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Wow! They are quite large clay shapers.... have you tired using the black tipped ones? They are a smaller size and the softer tip so I personally find them easier to control the putty with.
The photo of the clay shapers is a magnified photo of the tools taken from an online retailer's website, so the shapers aren't really that large. I do, however, use the 'Size 0' shapers and they work just fine. I also have a set of the black tipped shapers with the softer tips, but I prefer shapers pictured in the photo. Perhaps I'll give the black tipped shapers another try.
The photo of the clay shapers is a magnified photo of the tools taken from an online retailer's website, so the shapers aren't really that large. I do, however, use the 'Size 0' shapers and they work just fine. I also have a set of the black tipped shapers with the softer tips, but I prefer shapers pictured in the photo. Perhaps I'll give the black tipped shapers another try.
I have and use multiple sets of shapers: black (extra firm) in both 0 and 2, plus grey and white (firm and soft) in 2. I tend to start out with the size 2 to do gross shaping, switch to the 0s to refine details, and then go back with the white size 2 to smooth out the surfaces. Finally, as the putty starts to really cure, back to the black, mostly size 0, to do the last bits of polishing and blending. I probably use my greys least, except for the #2 flat chisel, which I tend to use to shape rounded surfaces like muscles, especially early on in the process. Black #0s tend to get the most use overall, especially round cup, flat chisel, and taper. #2 Cup Round is the most used white. I use the angel chisel in all 4 sets rarely, mostly for edging of things like armor or other mechanical bits, and I have yet to figure out where the cup chisel would be useful (maybe if I worked in actual clay instead of epoxy putties?).
Great headswap!! 8) 8) 8)I’ve ordered Perry Miniatures’ Bedouin cavalry. When they arrive, I’ll post some size comparison photos.
Do you know how big is the Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub model compared to that of say Perry Miniatures (or say metal Gripping Beast)? I was thinking of buying one myself but was put off by the apparent inconsistent size of the Fireforge models.
I assume height was the reason why you filed down the hooves?
I’ve ordered Perry Miniatures’ Bedouin cavalry. When they arrive, I’ll post some size comparison photos.
Is there one place where you can order the above sizes and plasticity of the above shapers? I've found loads on the net but they are available from different dealers who often don't mention the plasticity (hardness/softness) or sometimes even the size?
I buy my GS from my local hobby store and my Apoxie Sculpt from Amazon.
BTW, where do you get your putty from?
Green stuff can go off so I was wondering where the best place is to get the freshest GS?
I buy my GS from my local hobby store and my Apoxie Sculpt from Amazon.
The Apoxie Sculpt comes in small plastic tubs with screw on caps, so it lasts a long while.
Apoxie Sculpt is less expensive than GS and its not a good material for sculpting small detailed items. I use it primary for filling gaps, model bases, and terrain features.Quote
I've used that stuff and I just couldn't take to it. Maybe I got a bad batch? I really don't know. What I do know is that I ended up using it to fill the gaps in bark chippings I when I was making rocky terrain!To keep my GS "fresh" I keep it in a sealed ziplock bag which is stored inside small plastic box with a hinged, snap on lid.
Yeah, me too. I've just got back into the hobby again after a break of four or five years so I reckon the putty I have will all have gone off to some extent. There's quite a lot of it too :(
Only last year I opened up a GW blister of GS I received as a birthday gift over 10 years ago, and even though it was a bit hard in the beginning, and more of the divide line between the yellow and blue components needs cutting off, it became more kneadable once I started handling it, and it's still perfectly usable!
Opened GS and ProCreate I store in ziplock bags with as little air in them as possible, inside of an old Tupperware container, in a desk drawer, and I still have to experience a batch that has truly gone off. And as the above example illustrates; I'm not a prolific wet sculptor, so putty tends to be stored for a very long time...
Please do. I'd be very interested in how they compare.Here's the size comparison photo that I promised you. Compared to the other horses, Saladin's horse is massive. He must have stolen if from a crusader who was too big to ride a destrier and instead opted for a draft horse.
Can I ask, who makes the Age of Crusades Lithuanian cavalry?As stated above, my HG cav are kitbashed using Gripping Beast's Arab Heavy Cavalry kit and Fireforge's Medieval Russian Infantry kit. The models were originally assembled to use in my ill-fated Lithuania project, which was an offshoot of my Pagan Rus project. Both of which have been shelved for the time being. I don't care for how the Eastern Princes battle board plays, so I'm unlikely to resurrect my Lithuanian project, but I have had a lot of fun playing the current Pagan Rus battle board, so it's definitely still on my 'To Do' list.
As stated above, my HG cav are kitbashed using Gripping Beast's Arab Heavy Cavalry kit and Fireforge's Medieval Russian Infantry kit. The models were originally assembled to use in my ill-fated Lithuania project, which was an offshoot of my Pagan Rus project. Both of which have been shelved for the time being. I don't care for how the Eastern Princes battle board plays, so I'm unlikely to resurrect my Lithuanian project, but I have had a lot of fun playing the current Pagan Rus battle board, so it's definitely still on my 'To Do' list.
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You can view my Pagan Rus/Lithuanian thread HERE (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=109630.30)
Very promising work! Sixteen horses in formation always look impressive!
Yes, i had friends that had some issues with the Perry's metal Samurais too. Mine were not too terrible, but i agree that the overall cleaning job is not negligible. :(
It can be a bit hit and miss. Sometimes even old Perry ranges are pristine, sometime not so. i guess they are continually remodelling the molds on a rotary basis given the amount of miniatures they sell.
Talking of which, as an abstract question- I wonder how many actual models over all their ranges they have sold over the years? I'd put money on the total being mind bending!! o_o :)
They do make quite a decent living out of their stuff. And the margin per model is probably not so much. thirty years, two people paying their bills in full... something around five to ten million figures?
Sorry, back to the OT! :D
The decision not to attend the Adepticon tournaments this year really took the wind out of my sails with regards to painting my Moors. Nevertheless, in between other projects I managed to finish my first unit.
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Thank you, everyone.
@FreakyFenton: The models from Footsore Miniatures' Armies of the Caliphate model line. I believe that many of the models in this line were part of Musketeer Miniatures' collection, so they are some of Footsore's older sculpts.
The models have been labeled on Footsore's website as 'Currently Unavailable' for a year or so now. I messaged Footsore via Facebook to ask if they had plans to sell them again. I was told that they are in the process of remaking the molds for these models, but if I wanted to buy now, to send them an email, so I did.
Thank you, everyone.
@FreakyFenton: The models from Footsore Miniatures' Armies of the Caliphate model line. I believe that many of the models in this line were part of Musketeer Miniatures' collection, so they are some of Footsore's older sculpts. Eleven of the archers are Moorish Black Guard Archers and their leader, the guy wearing the mail shirt, is from the Moorish Black Guard Infantry Command set. I added a bow to the leader's left hand.
The models have been labeled on Footsore's website as 'Currently Unavailable' for a year or so now. I messaged Footsore via Facebook to ask if they had plans to sell them again. I was told that they are in the process of remaking the molds for these models, but if I wanted to buy now, to send them an email, so I did.
I assume that they used the old molds for my order. There was a lot of extra flash between their feet and a slight misalignment on a model or two, but otherwise the models arrived in very good shape.
I love Footsore Miniatures. On occasion, I've had problems with miscasts, but they've always provided me with AMAZING customer service.
Looks beautiful, whatever shade it is.
What are you using for the tan/drab ?Oops. Sorry. I didn't notice this question until just now.
How about adding some pattern to his tunic? That would jazz him up a bit.
How about adding some pattern to his tunic? That would jazz him up a bit.
I do good tabletop quality stuff, but compared to the real experts, I still have a lot to learn.
Great stuff yet again mate! Really love the hunter leader and that merchant guard. The skin tone in particular is inspirational.Thanks. Here's a close up of the Tribal Hunter Leader. When I use the warband in Age of Magic, I plan to use the model as my Desert Nomad's Ranger (lieutenant).
Never been happy with any Perry metals either, really wish they'd find a decent caster. Either way, the cavalry are looking good post-fix.
I finished painting the first two mounted Warriors. Despite the quality of the Perry casts, I think they turned out pretty good..... "This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this."
I finished painting the first two mounted Warriors. Despite the quality of the Perry casts, I think they turned out pretty good.
I spent hours with a hobby knife and greenstuff, cleaning up the imperfections on the 8 riders. Even so, once I put primer on the models, many more little bumps, cracks, and deformities were revealed to me, so fixing the flaws while I painted added extra time and unpleasantness to my painting of these models.
Is that a problem throughout the entire Perry ranges? I've painted some in the past and the casting was OK... not great but still, not that bad :?I can't speak to their other ranges. These are the only Perry metals I own.
I assume that is relative to their age.
Hello,Thanks.
Superb paintjob !!! I like the shade's flesh horses !!!
Nikkobourges
Stunning work and epic display!
Koyote, I am always so impressed with your attention to detail and willingness to share your experience in such meticulous fashion. I have the deepest of respect for you and your work.Wow. Thank you. I greatly appreciate your feedback. I worry that I blather on too long, so it's good to know that some of you enjoy it. ;)
Clever generals (which I am not) use mercenaries to exploit a certain rule or compensate for a warband's particular weakness. I enjoy using mercenaries, mostly for the modeling, painting, and thematic opportunities.
Below is a unit of Sailors for my Moors warband. I used Perry Miniatures' Afghan Tribesmen kit to make them. Their garb and head coverings identify them as Muslims, but differs enough from the other models in the warband to clearly indicate that they belong to a different group. And yes, I recognize the irony of using models depicting warriors from a landlocked country as sailors.
I still need to do some greenstuff work on them to fill in gaps. I am tempted to add an eye patch to the leader so I can call them pirates. Argh, matey!
I thnk Brother Vinni's miniatures has a a few Moorish corsair figures in their range if you asre looking for something a little different. Link: http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Arabic-Corsairs/p/26525694/category=6199065Thanks. I had considered using Vinni's wonderful corsair models, but sadly their aren't enough of them to field an 8 man unit with including duplicate models.
Excellent work and I really love the shields! :-* :-*The shields are not the shields that come with the plastic Gripping Beast kit. They are made by Footsore Miniatures. I like the look of this design, and using shields that differ from the GB kit is one of the many little ways I've added my own touch to these models.
On the subject of bases have you looked at the offerings from Warbases, they do a nice range of pill bases for very reasonable prices.Thanks for the tip. I will definitely keep this in mind.
Looks great! Now you made me realize that I never painted baggage markers for my own Moorish army! https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=125573.0Thanks, Mike.
And I *do* have a couple camels I could use. Time to get creative...! lol
Mike Demana
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What kinds of configurations have you been using when playing Moors?
@Atheling: Those are some handsome Berbers. Props to you for taking the extra step to "equip" them with bamboo spears. Excellent work!
Keep up the great thread -- I actually mentioned your Briton thread on the latest Saga Ohio podcast. lol
Wow...that sounds like a blast! I will definitely have to pencil that one in on my 2022 calendar. It seems to be THE big tournament for Saga in the U.S., unless I'm mistaken.
Do the tournaments usually book up in advance? If so, how far in advance do you need to pre-register?
As you can see from the picture below, the feet of the Irregular Miniature's camels falls far short of proper camel feet (they look more like deer hooves), so I made my own.That... is attention to detail.
Watch those digits!! :oThanks. I have yet to be bitten by my rotary tool, but as all long time modelers know, these things are only a matter of time...
Thanks. I have yet to be bitten by my rotary tool, but as all long time modelers know, these things are only a matter of time...
Good luck with that. I once cut into my thumb so badly it took the doctor in the hospital five hours to stop the bleeding! In the end he had to get the silver nitrate out!! :o :'( :'( :'( I missed the main nerve in my thumb my less then 1mm!!!I’ve cut my fingers countless time over the years, but nothing nearly as bad as that. Yikes!
From that moment onwards, whenever I have to force anything with a Dremel or a scalpel/modelling knife I put Kevlar gloves on!
I’ve cut my fingers countless time over the years, but nothing nearly as bad as that. Yikes!
My weirdest hobby injury involved a xacto blade. I was holding my knife and model up, just below eye level. When the blade slipped from my grasp, I was afraid that it’d land point down in my lap, so I made a grab at it. My clumsy swipe at it made contact, but instead of knocking the hobby knife away, it did the opposite. I remember looking down at an xacto blade sticking out of my chest. The tip went into the costal cartilage just to the left of my sternum. It didn’t hurt or bleed too much, but it was a weird experience pulling a xacto blade out of my chest.
I remember saying to myself: “What a dumb ass.”
I paused my audiobook, cleaned the wound, put a bandaid on it, took two Tylenol, and then went back to work on my models. I still have the t-shirt with the half inch slit in it, just to the left of my sternum.
I finished assembling my Muslim themed baggage and objective markers. All that's left to do is to add texture to the bases, primer, and paint.
As I posted earlier, these baggage and objective markers are designed to be use in conjunction with one another for the Ambush scenario, or independently of one another.
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