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Other Stuff => The Lead Painters' League => Topic started by: Elk101 on October 06, 2019, 01:53:18 PM
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After Round 1 the Leaderboard is as follows:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/41/4811-061019135035.png)
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Round 2
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Yay Penny the Killer Ape was on the Ledearboard photo. Achievement unlocked o_o lol
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Round 3 coming up if I can get the free pdf software to work properly! 😂
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So I'm guessing the software did not choose to cooperate. :D
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Nope. I'll try something else with it tonight.
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I am okay with it leaving me in the top 5. :D
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Nope. I'll try something else with it tonight.
Turn it off then turn it on again lol
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For the love of god, Elkster, just send me the PDF and I'll export it. ;)
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Sorry it's so late.
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Round 4
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Aaaaaaah
This is it.. that beautiful moment in each LPL when I am in insanely high position and will lose all my next matches against the people I wrongly overtake o_o lol :-*
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That’s just happened to me lol
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;)
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Huzzah, good man Elk101
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I'm sorry I just saw it, but, shouldn't I have a 10pts bonus for round one? Didn't Undead Confederate and Hellhound from Dracula's America count as "Things that go bump in the night" - A Gothic Horror themed team...
Just checking ;)
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Aaaaaaah
This is it.. that beautiful moment in each LPL when I am in insanely high position and will lose all my next matches against the people I wrongly overtake o_o lol :-*
That's why I wanted him to leave Round 2 up without updating. lol
But hey! He put my models as the header! Woot!
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I'm sorry I just saw it, but, shouldn't I have a 10pts bonus for round one? Didn't Undead Confederate and Hellhound from Dracula's America count as "Things that go bump in the night" - A Gothic Horror themed team...
Just checking ;)
I must admit I hadn't realised they were intended to be thematic. We'll have a conversation about it.
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Round 5 to follow. I had problems with spreadsheet as I'd accidentally used an earlier version. I'll sort it out.
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Elk,
although I'm very flattered to have made top 3, I think there's some mistake. I should be 3 wins - 2 losses, not 4 - 1. I didn't win round 1 and 4 (and won't win 6). I should be somewhere in the middle of the pack.
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One small one and one large one from me.... :D
The small one:
At end of round 4 I had 20 vote points.
At the end of round 5 I have 24 vote points.
But round 5 was a draw with me slightly ahead, meaning I should surely have won a half share of 5 vote points and not the 4 awarded. Error in the spreadsheet?
The large one:
Nobody appears to have been awarded Round 5 bonus points.
So, at end of round 4 I was on 100 points. In Round 5 I think I earned 20 for the draw, 5 for vote share, 10 for new team and 10 for bonus, total 45 making a score of 145 whereas I’m currently reported at 134.
:)
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Round 5 (hopefully right)
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Thanks Steve! 8)
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Any update on the leaderboard from last week's results? Not that I'm being competitive at all! :D
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You know what, I just completely forgot! I'm blaming work.
Sorry guys.
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Round 6
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Thanks for the update - it's rather hard to read though. If you're still struggling with the software, just drop me a line and I'll see if I can help.
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Thanks for the offer. If it's not good enough quality I will see if Westphalia Chris can do the PDFing for me.
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Round 7 results
(Thanks to Westphalia Chris for the improved quality image)
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Round 8
I've tried a slightly different route with the jpeg to see if improves the quality. If it's still an issue I can ask Westphalia Chris (nicely) to help.
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/42/140-011219184109.jpeg)
Edit: I've exported it since it still came across a bit poorly on my machine. See the replacement above. Chris
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Thanks Chris
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The penultimate Leaderboard. As usual, I will ask the kindly Westphalia Chris to improve the image!
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Thank you Chris!
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Thanks Steve and Chris 8)
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I think I liked it better back when I wasn't in the bottom half, but hey, that's my skill level.
o_o
;)
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Nonsense! lol I can honestly say there's no painter taking part who hasn't produced an entry where I've opened it and thought "that's brilliant!". Whether it's the painting, the composition, or just the genius idea, every one of you has impressed me with an entry I've genuinely really liked.
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Nonsense! lol I can honestly say there's no painter taking part who hasn't produced an entry where I've opened it and thought "that's brilliant!". Whether it's the painting, the composition, or just the genius idea, every one of you has impressed me with an entry I've genuinely really liked.
Now I want to know which of mine, but I feel like I'll be putting you on the spot!
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Maybe at the end I'll put a post up of each of my favourite entries from each painter!
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I think that is a cool idea! Thank you for all your work on this Elk!
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Maybe at the end I'll put a post up of each of my favourite entries from each painter!
Excellent idea
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Maybe at the end I'll put a post up of each of my favourite entries from each painter!
Cool idea! But seriously, thanks for all the hard work. Thumbs up.
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Thanks guys
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The final results of LPL13 are in.
First place for a record time is: Captain Blood
Second place is: Dr Mathias
Third place is: Pulper
Well done to every painter, it's a big challenge to get through the LPL. Thank you all for your efforts over the past three months.
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Congratulation Captain Blood, Dr mathias and Pulper well deserved Winners, and runners up, and thanks to everyone involved especially Elk101 and everybody who voted or commented. It's been great fun, and I really hope this isn't the last one.
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I've added a thread on my favourite entries over the course of the tournament.
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Congratulations to the Captain and runners up. :)
Congratulations too to all of my fellow competitors. I enjoyed seeing all of your entries.
And special thanks to Elk101 for running it all so smoothly.
Hope to see you all again in LPL 14. ::)
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The final results of LPL13 are in.
That table still has round 9 results, though? Can you check it before I post the celebratory part? :P
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It's been updated.
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Congratulations to the Captain and all the other competitors
Big thanks to Elk for making it happen
Now to start thinking of the next year
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Thanks to Steve for running the LPL this year. Your patience with guys like me and the semi-regular "I´m late" mails is highly appreciated.
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Excellent show all round chaps 8)
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Well done to Captain Blood and also too the other competitors.
Some excellent skills on display :-* :-*
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Hello,
Congratulations for all competitors and especially organisers !!!
I'm happy to participate to this LPL 13 !!
I must improve the quality of my pictures and my backgrounds..... for the futur LPL 14 ..... I will read carefully Bonus Awards Points..... lol...
Nikkobourges
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Thanks Elk for running it.
I hope you will do future ones ;)
As I suspected after 4 round my final score was worst to date but I will get you next time..
preferably in part of the year with better lightning.. lol
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Congrats Captain Blood and Pulper, and all the other participants! It's an undertaking, well done all.
Thanks Elk!!!
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Congratulations to all competitors. Was a great pleasure to follow this round. Got some inspiration and hope for LPL 14.
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Congratulations to the Captain! But also a very, bery big thank you to ALL competitors. You have created a very enjoyable community event. I really was excited with every new duel.
And also thanks to elk101 for the organization.
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Well done everybody, it's a tough one to see through to the end. And congrats to the Captain, a well-deserved victory!
Thanks to Elk for running the show (and I think he had a little bit of help from Chris here and there, so best mention him too).
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Well done everybody, it's a tough one to see through to the end. And congrats to the Captain, a well-deserved victory!
Thanks to Elk for running the show (and I think he had a little bit of help from Chris here and there, so best mention him too).
Wouldn't have been necessary if the Elkster's computer had been more cooperative. I probably should have submitted it on punchcards, to match the machine's age. ;)
Ta though!
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You're not kidding, I really need one that'll run more than MS-DOS. Many thanks to Chris for updating the Leaderboard for me and for putting the spreadsheet together (which looks like wizardry to me).
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Just get new valves for it ;D
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Thanks for the congrats. Pulper nearly had me there, and I think any of your other teams, Matt, and you would have edged it against my Vichy French in round 2 too.
But as everyone says, it's not really the winning so much as taking part in a great community event, and getting lots of stuff painted. So well done to everyone that took part and stood the pace, wherever you finished up in the league. It is, if nothing else, a learning experience, and it's amazing to see how most people's LPL output gets better and better over time.
It does disappoint a little, that with an alleged 8,200+ LAF members, we get such a relatively small number of participants, and (worse really), only around 200 people a week bother to vote on the matches. That's a little over 2% of LAF members. Go back a few years and the numbers for both participants and voters were much higher - well over twice those numbers in both cases.
Still, the LPL is now fairly well-known as a bit of a mountain to climb and requires a great deal of perseverance and spare time, so it's not altogether surprising that people don't always want to commit. I've ducked a couple myself down the years. The lack of interest from voters amongst the LAF membership in general is a bit harder to explain, other than to presume that while the number of forum members has gone up, that doesn't necessarily translate into increased levels of engagement or participation. I conclude that these days the forum has rather more spectators and rather fewer participants than in days gone by, and I think this is evident in other ways too. But c'est la vie. Nothing stays the same - the centre cannot hold.
Personally, I still think the LPL is worth holding though, for all the good reasons mentioned above, so I'd be up for another league in 2020.
I do think more notice (like a couple of months at least) would help, allowing people to get a few teams under their belts before the off. So we'll definitely aim to do that next time out :)
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I have participated in a couple leagues, and yep, as the Captain has said, they can be a real struggle to get through.
I have viewed every single entry in every single League that I can remember.
However, after a number of years I have stopped voting on the entries. To me, everyone who participates is a winner and I just don't want to have to say this one is better than that one anymore. Perhaps, views is a more appropriate way to evaluate the league...
Congrats to all participants! I really enjoyed this year's LPL.
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Fair point Ray. Maybe others share that philosophy too, and that partly explains it :)
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Congratulations to the winners, organisers and all who took part. Great show!
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I used to often not vote over the years (getting angry whenever someone suggested it was my duty to vote in every single match-up), but my perspective has changed a bit lately. I know just how much effort goes into participating, and I feel the least I can do is show my support and appreciation by clicking on a button. In those cases where I really can't separate them I will these days vote anyway (in the past I would have not cast a vote), either at random or by showing them to a third party and asking for their decision.
I'm surprised by how often once I've clicked I find myself in the minority, and voting for the losing side, though. I guess it's good we all like different things. :)
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Congratulations to all that entered. I tried to vote in each round, but think I missed one. I thought the entries were fantastic with loads of inspiration for us mere mortals.
Tony
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Good on you Tony 8)
I don't believe it's anyone's duty to vote. If people look but choose not to vote - for whatever reason - that's absolutely up to them. I'm sure there's a good number of people who do just that.
My reflection on the relatively low number of voters in the last couple of LPLs (like 200 people instead of 500 people) was really about a suspicion on my part that, these days, most people just don't bother to look in the first place.
Not much that one can do about it - or even that one should do about it.
It was just an observation about the ever-changing nature of participation in this community of ours :)
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Well done again Richard, you are the Micheal Schumacher of the LPL.
Excellent paintwork and pictures. :-*
Stay off the skis ;)
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I'm definitely interested in taking part again. I had a blast.
For voting, for me at least, it was difficult in some cases because I couldn't really see the miniatures with so much going on in the backgrounds. The miniatures themselves were sort of drown out. In other cases, it was just plain impossible to select which was better than another, as both would be perfect. In those cases I generally fell back to what I personally find technically difficult to paint, and went with whoever was able to pull that off in a way that I'd like to be able to do.
For number of participants and voters, I used to work in a marketing department for a catalogue/website retailer. A 2% return to a customer survey would have been considered a huge success, so I wouldn't worry much about the number of participants vs. the number of forum users.
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The voting has always been interesting. I have often wondered why some matches have 200 votes and others 175.
I too have been occasionally surprised when my vote turns out to be in the minority. What were the rest of you thinking? lol
If LPL keeps a few hundred people entertained and 50 or so people painting that is a good thing. :)
For member numbers, are they ever aged out? TMP marks it's users as inactive after awhile and when you look at an older thread where almost everyone is inactive, you wonder how many active users any of our hobby forums have year to year. Not saying anyone should do anything about it (people often return to their hobbies) but total member numbers might be a bit misleading.
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Just speaking for myself, I do not read everything on this forum and just check in every so often and view the couple of boards that cater to my current interests. Perhaps this might go some way to explain the numbers? If you are looking for inspiration on, say, 15mm Napoleonics, why would you go to a board where the figures on display could be from any genre?
I only viewed one of the later LPL rounds out of idle curiosity when it popped up in the recent posts thread. I am glad I did as it was great to see the obvious enthusiasm and care that had gone into the entries.
After that I had a look every so often (when I remembered) to see if another round had appeared, but reading this thread I actually don't think I appreciated how much the act of voting is clearly seen as appreciation by the competitors (whether or not the vote is for their entry). I will be sure to vote in each match in the future!
I would love to enter next time (despite my skills being far below those of Captain Blood and the others) but I am wary of committing to something that I might not have time to do justice to. Perhaps I should start to paint batches of potentially suitable figures now...
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I try & see/vote for every post. Often it is very difficult to choose between the two,
so I have taken to the fall back position, 'If they were to give them away which would
I rather have?' Not really 'fair' but what judging is? Personal choice IS a big factor.
I too agree that more lead in time, to get some painting done before the start, would
help increase numbers of entries, but I am happy looking at all the nice pictures.
I also have (sometimes) been surprised to find my vote in with the minority, but it
would be a very dull world if we all liked the same thing.
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The lead in time is definitely important, though this year I suppose we weren't sure it was going to happen at all. We also wanted to be done by Christmas as we figured people either wouldn't want the intrusion, or wouldn't want carrying over the holidays into the new year. Especially not when that's BSC territory (see the announcement in Workbench).
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Once again, it was a great plesure for me to participate to the league.
I'm proud of my 4th place, even if I miss the podium ;)
Captain Blood, Dr mathias, Pulper, you're great painters o_o :-*
And many thanks to our referee Steven.
See you on season 14 (I hope)
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Massive thanks to all painters and, of course, organisers. :) Being on the spectator side this time, I feel almost ashamed for going through the entries so quickly without giving them all the attention and appreciation they would deserve. After all, even the most basic entry still takes a significant amount of effort until a pile of lead with mould lines and all that has turned into a presentable photo, typically even with terrain and whatnot to complement it. And plenty of entries here definitely aren't "most basic" at all but carefully planned and wonderfully implemented scenes where you can see a whole story behind the minis - or in the minis themselves.
It's customary to congratulate the winners, which I also do, but I especially hope that everyone who participated can now look at a formidable array of painted (and even documented) minis and find the greatest reward in that sight alone. Maybe they'll go into a cabinet, maybe to a private game, possibly even to a convention game or other event? Whichever it is, every painted miniature still makes the world a better place. Looking at the new entry points column of results, there should be plenty!
I definitely want to see season 14 and hopefully have better luck with my schedules then. However, now I'm completely confused about when it might take place. lol
The lead in time is definitely important, though this year I suppose we weren't sure it was going to happen at all. We also wanted to be done by Christmas as we figured people either wouldn't want the intrusion, or wouldn't want carrying over the holidays into the new year. Especially not when that's BSC territory (see the announcement in Workbench).
Very valid points, accepted. There might be some grave consequences if you pushed aside the Christmas dinner to have some space on the table for the last photo shoot. >:D
Anyway, if you aren't finished yet with your various celebrations, please proceed. :)