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Title: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Jan 18, 2024)
Post by: Neldoreth on October 17, 2019, 09:13:23 PM
I wasn't sure I was going to paint all of the Battle Masters figs that I had picked up recently, but here we are. After playing the game a few times with the kiddo and really enjoying it, I was hooked.

It's really a great miniature game experience that doesn't get you bogged down in rules, and really ramps up the frustration around movement... Sometimes you pull a card for a unit that's trapped behind another unit, sometimes your opponent pulls five consecutive cards in a row just at the critical moment and your line collapses. It's great though.

So now I have 1+ sets worth of figures. My plan is to have them do double-duty for Kings of War armies as well as Battle Masters, so that means figuring out a basing scheme that works for both. I have done some work so far, but here's a picture of the latest eBay auction I snagged up with a healthy number of figures from the set. I also have a full set that I picked up in July, and a few figs kicking around from the set I bought in 1994.

I'll be posting pictures of the first completed unit next week!

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Griefbringer on October 18, 2019, 07:23:37 AM
Looking at your picture, it seems that a few of the models have broken weapons - perhaps an opportunity for some conversion work by replacing the broken weapon with a sword or a banner pole?

Also, if I remember correctly, that cannon barrel has a hollow underside. If you are going to paint the model, it might be a good idea to fill in that gap and glue the barrel permanently in place. That is what I did with mine.

Speaking of my Battle Masters models, I have somewhere 9 half-painted knights that I should dig up and complete once I get some other topics first out of my painting bench...
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Daeothar on October 18, 2019, 08:53:45 AM
Conveniently quoting myself from Pil's Battle Masters thread here:

If you're after miniatures for your plans, I can heartily recommend Lionheart (https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1150/lionheart) btw: it's an even more simplified competitor to Battle Masters, played on a traditional board divided into squares.

The miniatures are comparable in quality to the Battle Masters ones, but are made of a different type of plastic. Also the forces are basically two identical (Empire?) armies, but with enough variation in units to make it possible (probably) to split the two forces in such a way that you can do your proposed force expansion in Battle Masters, assigning certain unit types (of both armies) to a single side.

And the best thing; those games go for next to nothing!

I bought one set localy (it was brand new with the minis still on the sprues!) for €6,- ! And with 92 miniatures in the box, that comes down to just €0,065 per mini! 8)

We've played it a couple of times, but it is quite limited in its scope (although by no means dumb!), and now I'd rather use the minis for Battle Masters instead...

My copy of BM should be delivered today. So quite a few BM projects sprouting up all of a sudden! lol
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: tin shed gamer on October 18, 2019, 09:26:19 AM
I'm actually quite enjoying the gluttony of BM projects (If nothing else it just let's me know I'm not nutter out there).
Definitely try a couple of conversions . I found the plastic empire heads actually did a lot to bring them into line with more modern sculpts or at least make them less obvious.
Admittedly the price of second hand plastics put me off .So I'll just make my own(£6 for a single head and£10+ for four or five is more than a little too nuts for me.)
Mark.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: JollyBob on October 18, 2019, 09:33:27 AM
Those look great!

I've been playing this with my own seven-year old Bob Junior, and he loves it! I echo your comments about the rules, Neldoreth - really simple to pick up but challenging enough to be great fun when you can't deliver your carefully prepared devastating cavalry charge for six turns in a row!

The only gripe I have is that its still in its original unpainted and unglued state, so it takes longer to set up and attach all the figures to their bases than it does to play through!  lol  Easy fix, I guess...  ;D
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Griefbringer on October 18, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
I am starting to feel a bit guilty for having thrown away all of those big, chunky BM bases away several years ago - they were taking a lot of space, I did not have any use for them (and still don't, the game can be played fine with other kinds of movement trays for figures), and I did not think that there would be anybody out there in the world who would have any use for them. But apparently there are people out there who like those bases, and might have liked to get extras for some projects.

On another note, has anybody tried using figure removal from the bases instead of the skull markers for tracking damage? Since almost all of the bases have 3-5 figures, and a base is removed after the third point of damage, this would be quite straightforward. Of course the ogre champion (one model with 6 wounds) would need to be handled differently. And of course this is not a viable option for those who have glued their figures to the bases.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Daeothar on October 18, 2019, 11:18:07 AM
I was briefly toying with the idea of putting the miniatures on standard square bases, which I would then put in/on the actual BM bases (in cut outs), turning them into a kind of sabot type base. The rationale was that I could then use the minis elsewhere too.

But then I got captivated by the goofy simplicity of the models and how mono-pose models would irk the heck out of me when part of another, larger, force. Also, due to the amount of minis involved, and knowing myself, painting them up to the standard I hold my regular armies to, would simply take too much time.

So I decided to keep them dedicated to BM, with quick, nineties type, bright paint jobs. And when they're dedicated to this particular game, they could as well be fixed to their bases. This will greatly reduce setup time as well.

But I was serious about the goofy mono-pose models; they appear to hold a certain charm to me these days. And, as I just can't help myself, I got thinking of diversity, and quickly came up with a Dwarf, Undead and Elf list, and 'pure' Ork and Chaos forces, which now have to be made up out of period, mono-pose, plastic miniatures in the same goofy early nineties GW style as well.

I'm already nearly 2/3 along the search for the correct models. But the actual acquisition might prove a challenge, since quite a few miniatures are Talisman ones, and to source 5 or 10 of each of those will become quite pricey I fear. So I might have to resort to other means to get them ranked up.

But, as Pandora's (BM) box is gaping wide open, I suppose I'm going to have to do what needs to be done now... ::)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: wmyers on October 18, 2019, 07:11:21 PM
Those head swaps sure make a difference!

They look hugely out of proportion in the unpainted photo but look good in the painted one - might just be the angle and the stock figure comparison doesn't help.

I have my BM still in box - I'm at a cross roads of basing them them individually or just keeping them on the stock bases for playing with the kids.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: gibby64 on October 18, 2019, 08:52:49 PM
I loved it as a kid and I love it now... I have a set and a half fully painted to a decent standard that I got off a guy for $100.... felt bad for the guy as I know how many hours he must have spent on it... I also have a new in the plastic box that one of my sons will get. Great fast playing game.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Neldoreth on October 18, 2019, 10:30:51 PM
Looking at your picture, it seems that a few of the models have broken weapons - perhaps an opportunity for some conversion work by replacing the broken weapon with a sword or a banner pole?

Also, if I remember correctly, that cannon barrel has a hollow underside. If you are going to paint the model, it might be a good idea to fill in that gap and glue the barrel permanently in place. That is what I did with mine.

Speaking of my Battle Masters models, I have somewhere 9 half-painted knights that I should dig up and complete once I get some other topics first out of my painting bench...

Yes, indeed I'll have to replace some weapons here and there. I'll also likely ass some banners and poles, etc. For the cannon, I'll likely just drill a hole in the front and paint the hollow parts black. I'll also probably put that whole model onto a single base as well, maybe with the figures attached too. You should dig up your models and post some pictures! :)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Neldoreth on October 18, 2019, 10:39:30 PM
For basing, I decided to go with individual bases. The reason is that I like to create mini dioramas with my multi-bases, but these single-pose figures make that extremely difficult, so I decided to just put them on single bases, so that when I use them in Kings of War I'll just rank them up like old Warhammer armies, and when I use them for Battle Masters I'll just place them onto the unit bases, and I'll be ready to go. I hadn't considered setup time though...

@tin shed gamer

It was your original thread that actually got me thinking about Battle Masters again to be honest. I saw those two painted cavalry figs and the early conversions of the archers and I was set off reminiscing the old Battle Masters days. It was then that I decided to pick up a set to play with the kiddos, and then of course I got the painting bug, and here we are... so thanks a lot! :)

Your archers turned out extremely well indeed, great stuff.

@Daeothar,

That sounds like an awesome project regarding building lists and armies beyond those in the box set. For me, I think that the old plastic GW Warhammer models would work for me. They can mostly be posed exactly the same as each other, and they are also quite nice as is. I saw some forces over on Boardgame geek, but I'd love to see yours. I have a number of Kings of War armies that could easily do double duty as Battle Masters armies!

As for the Lionheart miniatures, they seem interesting, but on closer inspection, I'm not sure they are quite as good as the Battle Masters figs. I'll have to see them close up. In the meantime though, Battle Masters figs are quite available and very cheap on eBay still, so I'll go there for old lots.

Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Pil on October 19, 2019, 03:31:18 PM
Cool project and I'm curious to see the first unit.

The conversions of the tin shed gamer are rather lively indeed. The simple head swap really brings these models to a higher level. Shame about the prices for the heads though.

The thought of new armies is very appealing indeed, especially with so many appropriate models about. I think the added challenge is designing a card activation system for them. I saw some armies worked out on Boardgamegeek but I wouldn't know where or how to handle the activations.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: tin shed gamer on October 19, 2019, 06:55:42 PM
 lol
Reading threads can be hazardous to your wallet .

Speaking of which I'm sure the recent threads have bumped up the prices on EBay. I wanted another five cross bow figures. £5.99 when I started my project £12.99 now.

I'll be plodding along with mine again soon.(may have accidentally bought a steam tank and twenty or so spearmen.)

I decided to go with the slotta bases as I'm more than likely going to use the for WFB.
Then have a set of sabot movement trays to bounce back to the original game.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Gibby on October 20, 2019, 11:38:34 AM
Honestly, eBay is as quick as the damned stock market at noticing trends and inflating value of things accordingly.  I remember when the "Why Heroquest is so great!" video was at its most popular - suddenly Heroquest went from going for about £40 to over £100. All long after I sold mine for £35  lol

Anyway, great thread. It goes to show what can be done with those old figures! This year I really have rediscovered just how much a unit of models can look great, even if the individuals are all identical sculpts etc.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: fastolfrus on October 20, 2019, 07:11:26 PM
I'm actually quite enjoying the gluttony of BM projects (If nothing else it just let's me know I'm not nutter out there).
Definitely try a couple of conversions . I found the plastic empire heads actually did a lot to bring them into line with more modern sculpts or at least make them less obvious.
Admittedly the price of second hand plastics put me off .So I'll just make my own(£6 for a single head and£10+ for four or five is more than a little too nuts for me.)
Mark.

Would Frostgrave heads work for conversions? There must be loads of those kicking around (just on this forum)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Elbows on October 21, 2019, 03:11:34 PM
Definitely a simple but fun game (with enough depth to enjoy it!).  The game-tinkerer in me also realizes I could easily re-make all of the components necessary, and there are so many quality plastic kits out there, that scooping an original wouldn't be necessary.  Then I started thinking about expanding units/rules, etc...I should quit while I'm ahead!  I have an 11 year old nephew but he's not much for wargaming...so I better use that as an excuse NOT to start a project like this.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun...
Post by: Neldoreth on October 21, 2019, 05:53:48 PM
The first unit is complete, had a lot of fun painting it and I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

I'm thinking that I will update the army unit name and stats on the back though. That original sticker is pretty terrible and after seeing Pil's work on his Battle Masters thread, I'm inspired.

Next week will be some Chaos warriors I think... or those goblin wolf riders...

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/06_HalberdiersBattlemasters.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/06_empireMenAtArms.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/06_empireMenAtArmsBack.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/06_empireMenAtArmsBase.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/06_HalberdiersBattlemastersWIP.jpg)

Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: Cherno on October 21, 2019, 07:22:32 PM
That'S some nice old-school painting right there. They would fit right on the box of the game :)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: Pil on October 21, 2019, 09:20:05 PM
Very cool and marvellous paint job! I also like your basing solution, a bit of the best of both worlds. I'm looking forward to the next installments . :)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: Griefbringer on October 22, 2019, 07:53:48 AM
Quite a cheerful paint job! And those split colour feather plumes are not a common sight on figures.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: Dark choda on October 24, 2019, 10:02:16 PM
I've got a copy of this game that I'm slowly painting up as well.  This is inspiring.

I've come across other games with similar pieces like LionHeart and I wonder how well they paint up in skilled hands like yours.

Other such games I've looked at are Dark World, HeroQuest, DragonStrike. but they're all getting pricey.

Any other games I should take a look at?  I find I am quite fond of the old school models.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: verd on October 25, 2019, 01:41:39 PM
Top stuff! Looking forward to seeing this develop.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: Pil on October 26, 2019, 01:34:45 PM
Any other games I should take a look at?  I find I am quite fond of the old school models.

Legend of Zagor is another one. I believe the fameplay is a bit boring but the miniatures are nice. I don't have it myself though so it's hearsay and photographs ;)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... update: Painted Men at Arms 2019-10-21
Post by: Neldoreth on October 28, 2019, 04:33:52 PM
I have some Dark World and Hero Quest miniatures too... Maybe I'll paint some as heroes for Kings of War...

In the mean time, check out this unit of Chaos Warriors. These figures are also going to play the role of 'Soul Reaver infantry'  - i.e. Vampire warriors - for my Kings of War army. I have been looking for good models for the vampires for about ten years, and all the while they were sitting under my nose!

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_chaosWarriors.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_chaosWarriorsBack.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_chaosWarriorsBase.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/01_WarriorBatlemasters1.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/01_WarriorBatlemasters2.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/01_WarriorBatlemasters3.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/01_WarriorBatlemasters4.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/01_WarriorBatlemasters5.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated October 28, 2019)
Post by: Griefbringer on October 28, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
Do I sense a bit of a Halloween theme on those shields?

I did dig out my half-finished Imperial knights during the weekend, but did not manage to make much progress - seems like my usual technique of applying black washes over armour does not yield the desired results on these figures.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated October 28, 2019)
Post by: Neldoreth on October 28, 2019, 05:52:23 PM
Do I sense a bit of a Halloween theme on those shields?

I did dig out my half-finished Imperial knights during the weekend, but did not manage to make much progress - seems like my usual technique of applying black washes over armour does not yield the desired results on these figures.

It is indeed Halloween themed! Those are jack-o-lantern shield designs, even though they were forced onto those long Chaos shields. Part of the reason is that  I just enjoy painting Halloween themes, and part of it is that they will be doing double duty as Vampire infantry in my Halloween-themed fantasy rank-and-file army for Kings of War or OldHammer. Check out the Halloween-themed undead army gallery here for context:

https://hourofwolves.org/?view=armies&which=undead&full=1

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/undead/16_entireArmy.jpg)

Looking forward to seeing your figures come together! I am working on some Chaos Knights/Champions currently and I have two done: one with purple armour like the warriors above, and one with steel. I wasn't too happy with the steel armour either to be honest. Both of them were test figs, and I'm finishing off the third (and fourth) right now.

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated October 28, 2019)
Post by: Griefbringer on October 29, 2019, 10:49:10 AM
That's a whole lot of pumpkin you have got there - compared to those the chaos warrior shields look quite subtle! Are you going to continue the theme on the mounted chaos knights, or will they get a different style?

As for the Imperial knights, I am getting a feeling that drybrushing steel straight over black undercoat might be a better method than applying black washes over steel, but it is too late for me to change now. That said, I still have those lord knights waiting somewhere unpainted...
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated October 28, 2019)
Post by: Neldoreth on October 29, 2019, 04:19:34 PM
That's a whole lot of pumpkin you have got there - compared to those the chaos warrior shields look quite subtle! Are you going to continue the theme on the mounted chaos knights, or will they get a different style?

As for the Imperial knights, I am getting a feeling that drybrushing steel straight over black undercoat might be a better method than applying black washes over steel, but it is too late for me to change now. That said, I still have those lord knights waiting somewhere unpainted...

Yeah, the Chaos Champion knights will be sporting a similar theme. They will also be in the Undead army as mounted vampires cavaly called Soul Reavers or something.

Interesting about the steel. For mine I use pure highlighting, starting from a black metallic paint all the way up to a shining silver. It looks okay, but it's tough to blend...

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated October 28, 2019)
Post by: Pil on October 29, 2019, 10:13:43 PM
Nice take on the chaos warriors and I remember the Halloween undead from before. They will make fine vampire knights.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated October 28, 2019)
Post by: Neldoreth on April 14, 2020, 11:30:21 PM
Thread necromancy!

I finished a few more figures for Battlemasters... will I ever finish? Unlikely. But I'm okay with that. I have a few half-painted goblins and a primed ogre ready to go, but it's unlikely it will see paint in the near future. Still, I'm happy with these figs; they were a lot of work.

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_MountedWarrior01.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_MountedWarrior02.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_MountedWarrior03.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/02_MountedWarrior04.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/03_chaosChampions.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/03_chaosChampionsBack.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated April 14, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on April 15, 2020, 10:53:11 PM
Here is a close up of the original Vampire general that I painted for the undead army back in 2009, eleven years ago! Seems like it wasn't that long :(

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/undead/Hr_G.jpg)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated April 14, 2020)
Post by: Golgotha on April 16, 2020, 01:21:49 AM
Very inspiring I really must finish painting my Battle Master miniatures. It is a great game to play with the kids. I have been playing a board game variant with my 6 year old. Counters boards and rules available here: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/700/battle-masters
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated April 14, 2020)
Post by: Dan55 on April 16, 2020, 03:27:15 AM
Wow, some great painting here.

Long ago the local Toys R Us decided to dump this game and put it on sale for next to nothing.  I heard about this and quickly picked up multiple copies.  So did several of my friends.  I intended to cannibalize it for the figures but first I had great fun just playing the game.

When I started organizing and painting I decided to concentrate on the Imperials and traded most of the other figures away.  In return I received enough Knights and crossbowmen to create the units I wanted.  You see I had an idea for the Imperial infantry - pike & shot (sort of).

(http://hardpointgames.netfirms.com/pics/PikeShot.jpg)

(http://hardpointgames.netfirms.com/pics/IronGuard.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated April 14, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on April 21, 2020, 08:07:00 PM
Those figures look fantastic! Inspiring stuff.

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (Updated April 14, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on July 31, 2020, 11:34:08 PM
Added in some Goblin Wolf Riders finally!

So the thing is, I really had a hard time motivating myself to paint these things. I was dreading the - what I perceived as - poor sculpts of the wolves. After stepping away for a while and seeing the Oathmark Goblin Wolf Riders, I realized they were actually half decent! Once I got there in my mind they went pretty fast.

More images here: https://hourofwolves.org/?view=armies&which=goblinsWarhammer&full=1

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/goblinsWarhammer/01_wolfPack.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/goblinsWarhammer/03_goblinWolfRiders.jpg)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (new pics July 31, 2020)
Post by: tin shed gamer on August 01, 2020, 12:17:31 AM
Cracking stuff .Always worth taking the time to see what you've been upto.
Motivation enough to try an throw some paint at a few more of mine this weekend(if I don't get sidetracked with building a bit more of my castle ;D )
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (new pics July 31, 2020)
Post by: warlord frod on August 01, 2020, 04:15:45 PM
I especially like your basing change. Great idea  ;)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (new pics July 31, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on August 05, 2020, 05:46:50 AM
Thanks for the kind words gents! More Empire Men at Arms next, then finally that Ogre...

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project has begun... (new pics July 31, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on August 16, 2020, 11:30:09 PM
I got around to the Chaos Ogre. It was a lot of fun to paint. Freehand belly shield.

Thanks
n

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/07_ogreChampion.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/07_ogreChampion03.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/chaos/07_ogreChampion04.jpg)

Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Aug 16, 2020)
Post by: tin shed gamer on August 16, 2020, 11:54:16 PM
You've managed to hide the jelly mould feel of the figure really well .Your colour choices and locations are really effective in drawing the eye away from the lack of definition in the ogre.
 Intelligent and insightful painting .

Mark.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Aug 16, 2020)
Post by: syrinx0 on August 17, 2020, 01:33:31 AM
Wow great work! The shield is excellent.  The paint job definitely added definition and detail the sculpt is lacking.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Aug 16, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on August 17, 2020, 08:03:42 PM
Thanks for the kind words!

Despite the soft side detail, this is a great sculpt :)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Aug 16, 2020)
Post by: Golgotha on August 17, 2020, 10:44:55 PM
Wow I love your ogre especially his tummy shield. He looks menacing in the green. Can't wait to see more what you got left to still do?
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Aug 16, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on July 13, 2021, 05:28:37 PM
Wow I love your ogre especially his tummy shield. He looks menacing in the green. Can't wait to see more what you got left to still do?

Oh, so much left to do... So far I have painted one unit of Chaos Warriors, Chaos Knights, one unit of Goblin Riders, and the Ogre. On the Empire side I have painted two units of men-at-arms and one unit of crossbows... So much left to paint :)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Aug 16, 2020)
Post by: Neldoreth on July 13, 2021, 05:30:23 PM
Here is the latest unit for Battle Masters: the Empire Crossbowmen!

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_battleMastersCrossbowUnit.jpg)

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_crossbowScene1.jpg)

And see close ups of each crossbowman here: https://hourofwolves.org/?view=armies&which=theEmpire&full=1 (http://www.hourofwolves.org/?view=armies&which=theEmpire&full=1)

Next up some cannon action I think!

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics July 13, 2021)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on July 13, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
Wow, beautiful paint jobs on those! I like the movement tray - definitely looks better having them point their crossbows toward the enemy, rather than off at a 45 degree angle!
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics July 13, 2021)
Post by: Neldoreth on July 14, 2021, 01:49:36 AM
Wow, beautiful paint jobs on those! I like the movement tray - definitely looks better having them point their crossbows toward the enemy, rather than off at a 45 degree angle!

Yeah, it's funny how that worked out... I originally planned to put them on the bases forward as well, but then I realized I wanted to be able to experience that old-school angled vibe again... those were the days when figures would rank up only if they were angled at 45 degrees :) So this way I can have it both ways with the angled-bases with forward-shooting...

Battle Masters is a great game with its card activation too... really enjoying it.

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics July 13, 2021)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 21, 2023, 07:41:03 PM
Thread necromancy!

Yes, I'm still working on this bloody project, just finished up some more of the foot troops from the Empire army, and I'm still really loving these figs. They are some of my all-time favourite figures to be honest. They are simple, not the highly-detailed complexity of newer Age of Sigmar models, and I really like it.

First is the final unit of Halberdiers, now I have a total of three and they're ready for battle!

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_HalberdierRegimentBm00.jpg)
(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_HalberdierRegimentBm01.jpg)

Second is the first unit of archers, the other unit is currently half painted and in progress. I really like these figs too.

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_archerRegiment01.jpg)
(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_archerRegiment02.jpg)

I also really enjoyed building the detail on the regiment bases for the game. I used it to keep the archers facing forward, even tho they are angled on their 20mm bases...

More updates soon!
thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on September 21, 2023, 08:01:11 PM
Awesome! Those are beautifully painted, as always. I agree about the attraction of working on relatively simple figures- I find it relaxing and then I’m more enthused about the change of pace a complex leader figure brings. I’m looking forward to seeing the future models and units for this project!
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 25, 2023, 02:07:26 AM
Thanks Pattus Magnus!

It's funny about the simple figures eh? I mean, it took me literally years to go from start to finish with my Empire general figure just because it was so detailed and I couldn't decide if I should go metallics or non-metallics or yellow or green... Just taking a break, doing some nicely realistic archers all in perfect formation was like a palette cleanse!

Thanks for the feedback!
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Daeothar on September 25, 2023, 09:54:55 AM
It's threads like these that made me go and source a copy of Battlemasters myself some years ago.

As these things go, I have yet to get started on it, but seeing more of your great work on these simple but lovely miniatures is bound to rekindle that candle again.

Lovely paintjobs; I especially like the subtle differences you manage to sneak in during painting, while still retaining the uniformity of the units. The different skin- and bow colours in the last unit is a prime example of that :)

Please keep it up!
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: tikitang on September 25, 2023, 07:30:01 PM
Very nice work!

Battle Masters is where it all started for me, back in 1992, when I was eight. I'm happy to see it still getting some love over three decades later.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: white knight on September 27, 2023, 11:52:21 AM
You really do a great job. The Battlemasters cannon crew also are a great base for conversion to command figures. I gave a sword to the bearded one to make him a champion and the other one could be a good standard bearer.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 28, 2023, 02:24:47 AM
It's threads like these that made me go and source a copy of Battlemasters myself some years ago.

As these things go, I have yet to get started on it, but seeing more of your great work on these simple but lovely miniatures is bound to rekindle that candle again.

Lovely paintjobs; I especially like the subtle differences you manage to sneak in during painting, while still retaining the uniformity of the units. The different skin- and bow colours in the last unit is a prime example of that :)

Please keep it up!

Thanks!

After reading this I just realized the two halberdiers in the back rank were completely covered in the picture above, haha. Here's a shot of them lined up:

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_EmpireHalberdiersl01.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 28, 2023, 02:25:42 AM
Very nice work!

Battle Masters is where it all started for me, back in 1992, when I was eight. I'm happy to see it still getting some love over three decades later.

That's so awesome. I was a little bit older than that when I picked up the game... :)

Good times!
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 28, 2023, 02:26:55 AM
Also, here are all the Battle Masters halberdiers ranked up for Warhammer Fantasy:

(https://hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/11_HalberdierRegiments.jpg)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: LouieN on September 28, 2023, 02:54:51 AM
Neldoreth,

I am sorry to report that all the pictures posted here show as broken links for me.  When I go to your home site (GOAT Mini BLOG) I can see everything fine.

What can be causing this.  Sorry to shade the thread.

Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: tikitang on September 28, 2023, 05:55:28 AM
It's actually the same for me; I have to right-click on each picture and open it in a separate tab to see anything.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 28, 2023, 11:04:44 PM
Thanks people for the info!

It appears that is happening because the modern browsers are blocking the pictures from my site because my site doesn't have an SSL certificate... I guess I'll go finally install one on my site after twenty years of running it?!? Haha.

Thanks agian,
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on September 29, 2023, 12:33:59 AM
Should be fixed now, thanks!

n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: LouieN on September 29, 2023, 02:02:40 AM
All good working now
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: tikitang on September 29, 2023, 06:16:30 AM
Yep, looking good!
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Luigi on October 06, 2023, 09:16:43 PM
I went through the thread and your blog.

Absolutely lovely work. I like it so much in fact that I would love to imitate that green.
What's your recipe?
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on October 19, 2023, 09:37:46 PM
I went through the thread and your blog.

Absolutely lovely work. I like it so much in fact that I would love to imitate that green.
What's your recipe?

Thanks for the kind feedback, greatly appreciated!

The recipe varies over time, but the general concept is to start with forest green (originally it was Ral Partha's Forest Green, now I'm using Vallejo Model Color Deep Green) and highlight up by adding white (and not yellow). I originally just added small amounts of white to the forest green and all the way up to a light highlight. However, I have since started using Reaper Miniatures Masters Series Jade Green as an intermediate. So, deep green, then one part each of Jade and Deep green, then jade green, then adding some white to jade green and done.

Hope that helps!
Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: RSDean on October 20, 2023, 01:25:13 PM
I know I’m late to the party, but that really looks like a lot of fun.  I played some of the base game with the kids back in the day, but, despite both of them growing up to be miniatures gamers, we never ended up painting any of the figures.  I should ask them whether they’d be interested in a group project …
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on January 19, 2024, 03:05:22 AM
I know I’m late to the party, but that really looks like a lot of fun.  I played some of the base game with the kids back in the day, but, despite both of them growing up to be miniatures gamers, we never ended up painting any of the figures.  I should ask them whether they’d be interested in a group project …

Sounds like a fantastic plan to me :) I hope it comes together for you!

n.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Sept 21, 2023)
Post by: Neldoreth on January 19, 2024, 03:08:24 AM
I got some more work done on this! Check out the Cannon and Archer units:

(https://www.hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/12_canonWarmaster_04.jpg)

(https://www.hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/12_canonWarmaster_Warmaster.jpg)

(https://www.hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/12_archerRegiment01.jpg)

(https://www.hourofwolves.org/images/armies/empire/12_archerRegiment_warmaster01.jpg)

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Jan 18, 2024)
Post by: Pattus Magnus on January 19, 2024, 03:48:11 AM
Beautiful work! I really like how the metal turned out on the cannon, although both units look great.
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Jan 18, 2024)
Post by: ced1106 on January 19, 2024, 04:13:43 AM
Great job on the archers!

If you look at the unpainted, something like half their face is missing and/or their eyes are off. (Or maybe that's the crossbowmen.)

Hated painting those, but, at least pre-Oathmark, I had a hard time finding archers and crossbowmen in bulk!

Picked up eight copies at Kay-Bee's (anyone remember them) for $10 each. Sold off one, got rid of another, still have the rest!
Title: Re: Battle Masters Project - 1991 Warhammer. (new pics Jan 18, 2024)
Post by: steders on January 19, 2024, 09:31:07 AM
Stunning painting, really great stuff
PLease paint the beastmen!
I need inspiration, I have the mono-pose ones from Warhammer and I'm sure I'll be able to steal ideas