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Miniatures Adventure => SuperHero Adventures => Topic started by: Grimmnar on November 20, 2019, 11:04:53 PM
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Got a few links.
Have'nt seen any word yet so wasn't sure if anyone had seen the posts yet.
Seems new Marvel coming out in no time.
Thoughts
Grimm
https://www.figures.com/2019/11/12/advance-review-wizkids-marvel-heroclix-deep-cuts-x-men-unpainted-figures/
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/44553/wizkids-unveils-more-x-men-marvel-heroclix-deep-cuts
https://icv2.com/gallery/44553/1
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That's really cool! I hadn't seen these before, thanks for sharing!
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lol This, from that review in the first link, is funny to me:
As far as sculpted detail, there’s a lot, though it can be hard to see all of it with just the primer. Once you slap some paint on there the details start to pop out.
In common speech, as I decipher it anyway, "detail" tends to mean two very different things. It can be a quality, in terms of sharpness or fidelity in the sculpting and casting, or it refer to quantity, an amount of detail, the number of accessories, how many buttons, etc. These figures have neither and it's a laugh to hear someone claiming otherwise. It's as if he can hear the truth in his head, but he's paid to refute it. lol
Then, later this is also choice:
Whether you’re picking up these Deep Cuts X-Men for painting or for their fun dials, there’s lots of value in these figures. This first set of nine hits stores later this month, and each will retail for $4.99 MSRP.
$5 for an unpainted HeroClix figure? What? o_o ;D
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Then, later this is also choice:
$5 for an unpainted HeroClix figure? What? o_o ;D
These are not your average Clix. The details are much more crisp and the plastic is higher quality. Of course, as in all things, YMMV.
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These are not your average Clix. The details are much more crisp and the plastic is higher quality. Of course, as in all things, YMMV.
Yeah I'm unsure looking at those pics, the detail looks about the same as regular clix but hard to tell as the only physical photos are tiny. A lot of current heroclix have decent detail already although there's more of those badly done digital sculpted ones with almost no face detail under the paint.
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These are not your average Clix. The details are much more crisp and the plastic is higher quality. Of course, as in all things, YMMV.
I have examined the other WizKids lines like the Nolzurs, Pathfinders and Deep Cuts and the detail is shallow compared with metal figures, however they compare with painted HeroClix. But I have painted HeroClix that were molded from traditionally-sculpted masters and I would say part of the issue with shallow detail is digital sculpting and printing process. The whole name "Deep Cuts" is false advertising as if to contest the fact that the "cuts" are in fact shallower on digitally-sculpted minis, as least the way Wizkids makes them today. This isn't about "my mileage;" these are the plain facts. On a traditionally-sculpted figure, the depressions of, say, nose, cheeks, belt, whateter are exaggerated. The way figures are sculpted digitally, they don't tend to me, whether because of a choice or a technical limitation. Perhaps they are more "realistic" but they are less-detailed. There are pros and cons, but detail in these is not among their pros.
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I saw them in person this weekend. They aren't sculpted well in my opinion, but they're certainly on par with anything GW does (which also aren't very good sculpts).
If I had any use for them, I would find them to be adequate.
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The way figures are sculpted digitally, they don't tend to me, whether because of a choice or a technical limitation. Perhaps they are more "realistic" but they are less-detailed. There are pros and cons, but detail in these is not among their pros.
It's not a technical limitation, it's usually due to someone who does digital sculpting/modelling for games and stuff doing the sculpts, you sometimes see it from regular mini companies when they switch to digital. They're not used to small scale physical sculpting and aren't aware of the techniques required to make models look better at such small scales. A lot of the newer Heroclix stuff is compounded due to the soft material which wipes more of the detail and then you got that paint on top of that.
I use acetone to strip and repaint heroclix/mage knight and the later heroclix stuff is such a mixed bag, there's a lot of shallow/non-existant detail and pin-head models. Where possible I generally use the older sculpts even if some are a bit rough they still look better, just recently picked up the old Bulldozer mini cause the newer one will have 0 detail when painted. if only I could find a decent Piledriver sculpt to complete the wrecking crew, the one I have is a tiny pinhead :(
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I saw them in person this weekend. They aren't sculpted well in my opinion, but they're certainly on par with anything GW does (which also aren't very good sculpts).
Just checking. GW in this context means Games Workshop?
Grimm