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Title: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 08, 2019, 09:09:20 PM
Iím the proud owner of a very nice Greek army, mostly supplied by Great Escape Games.
However, Iíd love to add a higher command figure, a major or captain figure, maybe on a horse?

Any idea on figure choice?
Figures by Great Escape are lovely chunky sculpts, and are mountain Greek troops.
So something compatible?

I know this one is a tough one...
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Truscott Trotter on December 08, 2019, 10:49:01 PM
Perhaps if you had a picture or two of the real life thing ypy are after might help people make suggestions from non Greek ranges?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: argsilverson on December 09, 2019, 12:29:04 AM
There is a dedicated range of WWII Greeks here:
https://www.templarwargames.co.uk/page/28mm-ww2

They have a command pack, that might be useful. The Evzones (or maybe mountaineers) were a minority, I am not sure but I think they were approx. 5 regiments out of 70, I cannot tell you whether the Burn's miniatures are compatible with Great Escape ones, since I do not have seen any of the latter.

Anyhow the officers of the era would have side caps, greek helmet or peaked caps similar if not identical to the british one. Some might even retain their kepi. A good proxy could be Tiger miniatures greek general in kepi (khaki, not full dress blue)  (http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page29.htm) . This can be used as it is or via head swap with peaked cap or side cap. As a proxy Italian helmeted heads might be used.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/327707310361909904/
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Hang Tuah on December 09, 2019, 05:58:21 AM
How about WWI British officers from either Great War Miniatures or Mutton Chop?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 09, 2019, 06:51:03 AM
Thanks
Just after ideas. Very useful.
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 09, 2019, 06:57:52 AM
Iíve never even seen Templar or Tiger figures before!
Ok plenty to go at, many thanks.
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Poiter50 on December 09, 2019, 07:04:57 AM
Temolar were sold as Burns minis IIRC?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 09, 2019, 01:53:04 PM
How about this guy with a head swop?
Heís from Great War Miniatures.
Would, Greek Ezones - Mountain Infantry units have higher command on horses?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 09, 2019, 01:59:34 PM
Whilst Iím on the whole Greek WWII subject.....

Iím considering more civilian fighters, Iíve currently got a unit of French Resistance painted up from Wargames Foundry.
Iíd love to get the actual Greek Partisans from Gorgon miniatures, but whilst the figures are a fair price, postage is way too much. I think 2 packs of figures was £14 but postage was £16!
Does anybody stock Gorgon in the UK or EU?
Failing that I may have to look at Crusader Partisans

Thanks again
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: argsilverson on December 09, 2019, 04:44:06 PM
as I posted in some earlier discussion avoid the figures with the "mono" and soviet weapons. For greek partizans a good proxy would be in civilian dress with german helmet and side caps!
Armament mixed german and british! I also suggest use of Footsore IRA fighters in civilian outfits.
For inspiration see:
http://pastincolor.blogspot.com/2019/12/1944_2.html

The blogspot is very interesting with colourized photos from the past!

as for Gorgon Studio partizans, they are meant to be for Crete only! Suitable for Battle of Crete to the liberation and civil war. Only few are for use outside Crete (Those not in breeches).
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 09, 2019, 05:12:14 PM
Very informative, thank you.
Saved me from an expensive mistake.

Thoughts on the mounted officer?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: argsilverson on December 10, 2019, 01:55:34 AM
Thoughts on the mounted officer?

Too british to me! The very higher command wear full British uniform. 

The tiger miniatures Balkan wars are suitable for some conversions, too. At least rifle and equipment is the same. 
During the 1940 campaign has one cavalry brigade which retained their French Adrian helmets, so although I cannot recommend about the various sizes of miniatures, Tiger miniatures cavalry with headswap could do a good proxy.
see also:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=119243.msg1494522#msg1494522

one other topic greek gendarmerie and a nice setting and scenario as an  excuse to use that Gorgon Studios partisans:
  http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=114667.0

As a general term for greek partisans use International Brigades bodies with various heads (no fez or gorillo please. although cavalry used the Adrian helmet I have not seen a single partizan using it)



 
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 10, 2019, 05:00:33 PM
Argsilverson,
The blog with colour pictures is superb!
Anyway I can see it in English? Sorry Iím a bit of a Luddite.
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Hang Tuah on December 10, 2019, 05:55:11 PM

(https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/6fd26b17837774.5603cfe014f8c.jpg)


(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zHcsQgusg5g/XNbD4xXGvZI/AAAAAAAAG0U/kBdyKOmHQbg0DLFKfDrVhgDYmRp3cp6oACEwYBhgL/s1600/P1010961.JPG)

(https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/92050b17841212.5603d1a393468.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VS3licGoIF0/TrWYmCMpKdI/AAAAAAAABMo/xEGuOkLTBsc/s1600/PICT0003%2B%25285%2529.JPG)

(https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/aa27dc17837834.5603d2420de3b.jpg)



Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Hang Tuah on December 10, 2019, 06:00:17 PM
(http://Anyway I can see it in English? Sorry Iím a bit of a Luddite.)

If you're using Google Chrome just right click on the page and choose the "translate to English" option.
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on December 10, 2019, 08:18:57 PM
Many thanks.
So which manufacture are those sample above?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on January 16, 2020, 08:57:29 AM
This has got me thinking about Greek cavalry units...

Any ideas on how these guys look?
Should I use the same samples mentioned for the officer?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Tim Haslam on January 16, 2020, 09:15:20 AM
Iím thinking the tiger miniatures models?
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Hang Tuah on January 17, 2020, 05:38:41 AM
Here's an illustration from the Greek army website:

(http://www.army.gr/sites/default/files/st-10-01.jpg)






Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: argsilverson on January 17, 2020, 06:43:52 AM
I’m thinking the tiger miniatures models?

There is no minis for greek cavalry during the wwii. A good proxy will be polish ww2 cavalry in Adrian helmet, with sabres and no lances.  In all the depictions I have seen the greek cavalry retained the French Adrian helmet.
The other option is Tiger miniatures with head swap, The tiger miniatures wear kepi which was replaced by 1935 so in order to use them you need to replace their heads with French Adrian helmet.
Crusader and warlord French cavalry is in greatcoats  and only useful for heavy winter.
Title: Re: Ideas? WWII 28mm Greek
Post by: Hang Tuah on January 17, 2020, 07:33:16 AM
Quote
A good proxy will be polish ww2 cavalry in Adrian helmet, with sabres and no lances.  In all the depictions I have seen the greek cavalry retained the French Adrian helmet.

Would be a good chance for you to get some Kromlech figures!

(https://kromlechhistorical.com/306-thickbox_pp/polish-army-cavalry-section-on-foot-10-miniatures.jpg)