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Title: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on December 10, 2019, 05:42:58 PM
Please excuse any cross posting-this is not my period but saw them on the company's FB page.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: waterproof on December 11, 2019, 07:07:08 AM
This is interesting,is this the successor of Wargames Factory ? The three ups look like from Victrix, I will watch. Was not known to me so far.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on December 11, 2019, 07:49:25 AM
No idea, but they do produce some nice plastic fantasy sprues with stated ambition to move into historical minis.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on December 14, 2019, 02:42:56 PM
For those who do not use Facebook, the company has a blog post.
https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/the-great-war-historical-range-announced (https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/the-great-war-historical-range-announced)
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Metternich on December 14, 2019, 04:04:47 PM
Nice looking representations.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: carlos marighela on December 14, 2019, 09:20:57 PM
Well, if they fit size-wise with Paul Hicks’ sculpts, I can see the addition of fortress troops to my inter-war Czech army.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on December 19, 2019, 02:49:47 PM
Just saw this on Wargames Atlantic's FB and I quote "We are in the final design phase right now. Adjusting some parts, adding some heads, adding some bits and bobs. Once we finish that and any other requests from the tool room we will let you know the schedule. Thank you! We’re excited for them too!"
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on January 18, 2020, 08:22:29 AM
Just saw this on Wargames Atlantic's FB-I am sure they won't mind-Art work by Peter Dennis
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Metternich on January 19, 2020, 04:08:08 PM
Posting his superb artwork needs no apology !!
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on January 19, 2020, 04:52:47 PM
Posting his superb artwork needs no apology !!

 :)
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on March 27, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
Posted last week on their Facebook but somehow forgot to forward-can't think why?
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on March 27, 2020, 10:12:12 AM
I don't know how I have managed to post twice.....
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on March 27, 2020, 06:52:56 PM
Ah but this time you did it I noticed what look to be pickelhaubes along the top row....so thanks for posting twice lol
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on March 31, 2020, 09:33:01 AM
From their Facebook page they look great-something to lookforward too

"Here's a first shot of one of the painted ones for the box art. These particular ones are 3D prints based on the final engineering files from the factory. We try to get a jump on the boxes while the plastic is wrapping up. More to come".
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: carlos marighela on March 31, 2020, 10:01:11 AM
That looks superb. If they do Brits, I’ll be a very happy man.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: ichwillauch on March 31, 2020, 10:05:54 AM
I am looking forward for this set! I hope they are similar sized to great war miniatures.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on March 31, 2020, 10:16:06 AM
Yes, agreed-something to look forward too.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: N.C.S.E on April 01, 2020, 01:32:42 PM
Definitely getting a set myself. Even if they don't quite fit with my Great War Miniatures, they'll be ideal for conversions.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on April 04, 2020, 08:10:36 AM
Just saw this on Wargames Atlantic Facebook-something to look forward to.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Calimero on April 04, 2020, 04:50:50 PM
Definitely getting a set myself. Even if they don't quite fit with my Great War Miniatures, they'll be ideal for conversions.

Indeed... WWII Hungarians, anyones ;)
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: N.C.S.E on April 05, 2020, 10:58:21 AM
Just saw this on Wargames Atlantic Facebook-something to look forward to.

I'll admit - that pic has dulled my excitement somewhat. Something about those shoulders just doesn't feel right...
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on April 05, 2020, 11:02:18 AM
Like those.
Agee with some of the shoulder/arm joins looking a bit chunky but still nice figs.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: summsi on April 05, 2020, 02:44:57 PM
They are nice, but the helmets don`t look very good.

The German WW1 helmet seems to be really difficult to sculpt. A lot of figures from different manufacturers have problems with these.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on April 05, 2020, 03:42:55 PM
I'll admit - that pic has dulled my excitement somewhat. Something about those shoulders just doesn't feel right...

Perhaps my sense's are dulled after two weeks of being locked in the apartment-now you have mentioned it...........
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Calimero on April 05, 2020, 05:20:38 PM
I'll admit - that pic has dulled my excitement somewhat. Something about those shoulders just doesn't feel right...

Perhaps my sense's are dulled after two weeks of being locked in the apartment-now you have mentioned it...........

Didn't notice it at first either... should be pretty easy to shave a few mm on them though :?
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on April 09, 2020, 05:31:23 AM
The latest, with chunky arms, image of the WWI Germans-still very tempted.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on April 09, 2020, 07:48:58 AM
I noticed on their website that these are paints of the 3D prints, not the final plastic sprues. So they may not be quite as chunky. Just going to have to wait n see.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on April 09, 2020, 08:55:41 AM
I noticed on their website that these are paints of the 3D prints, not the final plastic sprues. So they may not be quite as chunky. Just going to have to wait n see.

Ahh, well spotted I hope you're right-I should really read what they say rather than just look at the pictures.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Metternich on April 16, 2020, 07:57:00 PM
That gas mask doesn't quite fit right on the figure.  I think that helmet appears too small for the WW 1 Stahlhelm (which had a fuller silhouette than the WW 2 helmet and a more protruding "bill").

Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: bergschotten on April 29, 2020, 08:12:29 AM
Well, the Wargames Atlantic Germans are on pre-order (release date June) Here's a link to the blog with pictures and a comparison shot-some of the issues raised (shoulders Gas Masks) still seem to be evident but what the heck I getting a box, perhaps two..https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/german-infantry-1916-1918?variant=31552407404642
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Captain Blood on April 29, 2020, 11:13:49 AM
They don’t look bad at all.
I just wish this company had followed the Perry / Victrix model of including a dozen or more bodies in each kit, rather than the cut price model of many other plastics manufacturers, of including just five or six bodies.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: lord marcus on July 16, 2020, 08:13:21 PM
They don’t look bad at all.
I just wish this company had followed the Perry / Victrix model of including a dozen or more bodies in each kit, rather than the cut price model of many other plastics manufacturers, of including just five or six bodies.

Hi there. Wargames atlantic community outreach here:

There are 30 bodies in the set. Or did you mean poses?
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Captain Blood on July 16, 2020, 10:18:01 PM
Different bodies.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: lord marcus on July 16, 2020, 11:02:35 PM
Different bodies.

I'm going to assume you mean different body poses. There are six different poses in the set with 30 bodies total using five frames
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Captain Blood on July 17, 2020, 06:05:11 PM
I'm going to assume you mean different body poses. There are six different poses in the set with 30 bodies total using five frames

They don’t look bad at all.
I just wish this company had followed the Perry / Victrix model of including a dozen or more bodies in each kit, rather than the cut price model of many other plastics manufacturers, of including just five or six bodies.

As said...  ::)
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on July 24, 2020, 07:52:27 PM
So does anyone have the actual product in hand yet? Just wondering how they will (or won't) fit in with existing WW1 ranges from the Perry's (old Foundry), Great War Minis, etc. Would love to see some pics.

And Richard (aka the good 'Captain Blood') is spot on, as the 5/6 basic figs production model never gives you much variety. This is Warlord's model and it just doesn't work, at least for me. However, horses for courses.

Hoping to see some pics!
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: lord marcus on July 24, 2020, 07:57:09 PM
As said...  ::)

I see. I apologise for the confusion.

@arkoudaki, I have the figures in hand, but I don't own any of the other lines you mentioned. Is there something else I could give you a scale photo with?
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on July 25, 2020, 09:09:28 AM
How about some other Foundry type figs. :) And also one against a ruler would be useful too. ;)
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Belgian on July 25, 2020, 02:19:21 PM
Writing the review will take a bit longer but see enclosed scale comparison pictures with Wargames Foundry, Copplestone Castings and Brigade Games. The Wargames Atlantic miniatures are suitable to be used alongside Copplestone Castings and Brigade Games but the Wargames Foundry miniatures are really small compared with the above mentionned companies. See pictures below.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: carlos marighela on July 26, 2020, 07:30:41 AM
I wonder how they size up with the Tsuba/ Empress Freikorps.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Firescale Whack on July 26, 2020, 11:34:04 AM
I wonder how they size up with the Tsuba/ Empress Freikorps.

I have ordered a box for that very reason Carlos, so when they arrive I will post a comparison pic for you.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on July 26, 2020, 01:00:51 PM
Many thanks for the photos, as those help a lot. In short, the Wargames Atlantic WW1 Germans look good...expect for those really 'wrong' looking arms. That just throws the entire figure off. :(
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: carlos marighela on July 26, 2020, 01:42:17 PM
I have ordered a box for that very reason Carlos, so when they arrive I will post a comparison pic for you.

Much appreciated!
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: lord marcus on July 26, 2020, 09:15:50 PM
Many thanks for the photos, as those help a lot. In short, the Wargames Atlantic WW1 Germans look good...expect for those really 'wrong' looking arms. That just throws the entire figure off. :(

May I ask what's wrong about the arms?
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Metternich on July 27, 2020, 08:24:00 PM
The old Wargames Foundry WW 1 figures are small as compared to almost all "modern" figures (sorry for the pun).  Based on the size comparison with Brigade, I imagine the Atlantic figures would fit in with the Brigade Games figures.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Firescale Whack on July 29, 2020, 11:42:09 AM
Here is a comparison of the Wargames Atlantic Germans with Tsuba Freikorps and Great War miniatures German Infantry. Once painted I think they will all alongside each other nicely but the Wargames Atlantic are a bit chunkier and the proportions of their arms are a little odd above the elbow.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W3ZGknRW/20200728-204829.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wz609110/20200728-204816.jpg)

Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Calimero on July 29, 2020, 02:27:02 PM

I’m really likely to buy a box or two of these but I’ll wait before I saw more of the upcoming French opponents… ::)
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: carlos marighela on July 29, 2020, 05:07:56 PM
Much appreciated! Looks like they will fit in once painted.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: anton ryzbak on July 30, 2020, 12:41:19 AM
I just posted a review of the new release, with photos of the sprues (both sides) they sure look good to me! https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2020/07/wargames-atlantic-great-war-german.html (https://antonswargame.blogspot.com/2020/07/wargames-atlantic-great-war-german.html)
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic Germans
Post by: DanimalKingdom on July 30, 2020, 08:25:57 PM
I'll admit - that pic has dulled my excitement somewhat. Something about those shoulders just doesn't feel right...

Yes, I feel the same, they look oddly beefy, in that sense they remind me of the Wargames Factory sculpts, which isn't a good feeling.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: DanimalKingdom on July 30, 2020, 08:27:07 PM
The German WW1 helmet seems to be really difficult to sculpt. A lot of figures from different manufacturers have problems with these.

Same with Adrian helmets! Sculptors seem to get into a fit over them; the Adrians on Warlord minis are atrocious.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: carlos marighela on July 31, 2020, 03:26:57 AM
Warlord minis are usually atrocious.

FTFY  :D

In fairness, the helmets don’t seem that bad. The arms could probably stand a bit of filing at the shoulders. I think I’ll get a box and experiment. If not happy, it will provide plenty of useful additions to the spares box.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Red Sveta on August 17, 2020, 01:02:44 AM
Whats up with their arms? Thats what is putting me off buying them the arms just look so odd!
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Metternich on August 25, 2020, 04:13:14 PM
I have to agree about the arms.  They don't look quite right.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: racm32 on August 25, 2020, 09:35:26 PM
are their enough heads with the spike helms to use for each figure in the box?
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: Infman on August 26, 2020, 10:18:59 AM
Mine just arrived today. They look good and will add a lot of variety to my Great War Miniatures collection.

Yes, there are 6 spike helms on each sprue for the 6 bodies.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: lord marcus on September 01, 2020, 01:10:24 AM
are their enough heads with the spike helms to use for each figure in the box?

Community coordinator for wargames atlantic here,

Yes, you get enough of the 4 hat/helmet options for each of the 30 miniatures.

As to the arms, This is the first we've heard of such complaints. There are various painted examples up on the internet now. I enourage you all to hop on the wargames atlantic legion facebook group if you want some more examples.
Title: Re: WArgames Atlantic Germans
Post by: paladin6 on November 10, 2020, 01:46:54 AM
some shots  of the Atlantic Minis built and painted on a table layout.  They are a great set Imo.  These were painted by Scot at Pure Sable painting.