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Title: BSC2020 ichwillauch "perils of sea for a spanish galleon"
Post by: ichwillauch on December 22, 2019, 09:28:08 AM: First Idea: a badly damaged galleon is fighting a desperate and hopeless struggle after a lost encounter on sea against the elements.
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Post by: AKULA on December 22, 2019, 11:54:26 AM: Great idea, look forward to seeing it develop

:)
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Post by: ichwillauch on December 23, 2019, 11:16:49 AM: I was always fascinated of the old oil paintings themed around the four day battle 1666...
(https://i.imgur.com/63x6s5c.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hhndlOZ.jpg)

Because 1666 warships are a little bit difficult to build, I switched to the much more simplified "Half Moon" model and made a first sketch..
(https://i.imgur.com/Ft8wKzV.jpg)
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Post by: gamer Mac on December 23, 2019, 12:49:20 PM: That looks complicated , good luck
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Post by: ichwillauch on December 28, 2019, 04:42:38 PM: My teammate and I have nearly finished all plans for the galleon by now...
(https://i.imgur.com/ZTCsh0T.jpg)
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Post by: Donkeymilkman on December 28, 2019, 05:56:34 PM: Teammate! More like Captian I imagine! ;D It looks very impressive, I am excited to see how this turns out.

DMM
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Post by: Burnin Coal on December 29, 2019, 03:26:41 PM: Wow ! That’s either a very small dog or a very big boat !
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Post by: ichwillauch on December 30, 2019, 12:55:55 PM: The model is 1:50 Corel wooden static kit. If (ever) finished it will have a length of 520mm. So its a large dog…

First ideas are to turn the flyboat into a warship by increasing the number of guns up to 16 or 18 and some swivel guns. Thomarillion offers some high quality for a small budget.

Today the first part of the crew arrived…
(https://i.imgur.com/bLAb3vD.jpg)

1. Captain Blackadder and Companions
2. Bystanders, wellwishers, settlers, nobles and/or rich merchants
3. Sea soldiers
4. Boarding party
5. Gun crew and sailors
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Post by: Wirelizard on December 30, 2019, 08:13:28 PM: Quote from: ichwillauch on December 28, 2019, 04:42:38 PM
My teammate and I have nearly finished all plans for the galleon by now...
(https://i.imgur.com/ZTCsh0T.jpg)

How do you get your dog and ship plans to stick to the ceiling like this? Most impressive thing so far! :D

This might be the most ambitious plan so far for BSC2020, I wish you luck!
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Post by: Hammers on January 02, 2020, 08:55:46 PM: Holy cow... This is ambitious. Wrecked sailing ships means oodles of details in disarray. Difficult.
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Post by: ichwillauch on January 04, 2020, 11:13:19 AM: I have to confess I have started some days ago with this project….

Step 1 All parts for the inner structure were made from 4mm plywood. I tried to make difficult parts with my 3d printer, but meanwhile my printer has big troubles with the heating…
(https://i.imgur.com/PQ0u5St.jpg)

Step 2 test if all parts of the main deck will fit together…
(https://i.imgur.com/CH1k0Lu.jpg)

Step 3 final test if all parts of the inner structure will fit together
(https://i.imgur.com/Hg14KV4.jpg)

Step 4 general layout of all parts finished so far…
(https://i.imgur.com/Lx2IjZh.jpg)
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Post by: Burnin Coal on January 04, 2020, 11:24:01 AM: Amazing rate of progress and very impressive to boot
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Post by: 6milPhil on January 04, 2020, 12:46:47 PM: Looks Great. 8)
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Post by: McMordain on January 04, 2020, 03:07:58 PM: Looks really good so far! :-*
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Post by: AKULA on January 04, 2020, 03:24:24 PM: Wow....you are making really great progress

:o 8)
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Post by: Byblos on January 04, 2020, 04:29:09 PM: Really interesting topic !
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Post by: gamer Mac on January 05, 2020, 12:01:23 AM: great progress
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Post by: ichwillauch on January 05, 2020, 11:10:13 AM: Thanks all for the nice and motivating comments.

Next step in building the ship: Filling all gaps with balsa to stabilize the structure.
(https://i.imgur.com/EcXVUY1.jpg)

Other parts got black paint. This parts will hold the guns or models of crew members

Now came the boring part sanding everything down again...
(https://i.imgur.com/wVSosYn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/edueFBn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YvmnhqI.jpg)

Next steps will be some minor repairs in the bow and aft section before starting with the first planking.
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Post by: marianas_gamer on January 05, 2020, 08:54:01 PM: Wow, a lot of work already! Good start.
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Post by: FreakyFenton on January 05, 2020, 11:51:09 PM: Looking good!
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Post by: tomrommel1 on January 07, 2020, 06:29:35 AM: amazing work
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Post by: ichwillauch on January 10, 2020, 09:38:32 AM: Somehow the temperature sensor of my 3d printer is broken and the last results are beyond all hope. But beside that I am happy that i have finished printing the ship armament.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q6d7FG4.jpg)

wheels were made with a perforator

meanwhile the second part of the ship crew arrived, I used the ghost archipelago crew as a base with some kitbashing with napoleonic artillery made by victrix and helmets offered by warlord games.
(https://i.imgur.com/aWqqNy0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cTBucvU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/x3wniXq.jpg)
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Post by: LordOdo on January 10, 2020, 01:24:59 PM: Oooh I like that crowded bootom pic!

Good luck!
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Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 10, 2020, 02:24:43 PM: This is looking very good - well done. :)

I am following this with interest.
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Post by: Burnin Coal on January 10, 2020, 03:04:55 PM: This is going to be great !
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Post by: AKULA on January 10, 2020, 06:46:05 PM: Wow...that is looking bloody marvellous :-*
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Post by: Damas on January 11, 2020, 10:34:21 PM: Shoulder to shoulder, loud and smokey!
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Post by: Blackwolf on January 12, 2020, 04:37:48 AM: This is fab!
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Post by: ichwillauch on January 12, 2020, 02:37:01 PM: Thanks for the nice comments!

Meanwhile first planking of the upper part is finished
(https://i.imgur.com/A6E5Q1p.jpg)

And the gun holes were placed.
(https://i.imgur.com/Mu972Ex.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/e6hviUX.jpg)
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Post by: gamer Mac on January 13, 2020, 01:05:02 AM: WOW :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: marianas_gamer on January 13, 2020, 05:35:26 AM: Coming along great!! :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: AKULA on January 13, 2020, 07:58:22 AM: Fantastic progress

8)
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Post by: Hammers on January 15, 2020, 09:35:34 AM: My lord, you're really doing it...
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Post by: ichwillauch on January 19, 2020, 07:44:53 AM: Thanks for the nice comments!

Meanwhile first plankiing ist finished…
(https://i.imgur.com/7HzqQm2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/meGYATb.jpg)

next steps will be cut down the sides and opening the gunholes of the main deck
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Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 19, 2020, 10:09:45 AM: This is a fantastic build. Well done.

Can you explain the materials and techniques?
Is it just Balsa wood and PVA glue?
Do you cut with a saw or a scalpel?
Do you use a lot of clamps?
Do you do a lot of sanding to get the curves?

Thanks

Mick
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Post by: AKULA on January 19, 2020, 10:12:17 AM: It just gets better and better

8)
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Post by: Burnin Coal on January 19, 2020, 07:48:49 PM: Really looking the part 8)
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Post by: ichwillauch on January 20, 2020, 06:24:06 PM: Quote from: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 19, 2020, 10:09:45 AM
This is a fantastic build. Well done.

Can you explain the materials and techniques?
Is it just Balsa wood and PVA glue?
Do you cut with a saw or a scalpel?
Do you use a lot of clamps?
Do you do a lot of sanding to get the curves?

Thanks

Mick

Hi, thanks for the questions:

the techniques are the same as for static wooden ship models, in fact I use the same plan for the corel half moon kit https://victoryshipmodels.com/ship-model-half-moon-wooden-static-kit-corel-dutch-galleon.html. It always starts with an innere structure made of 4mm plywood. Than I use balsa to form the shape of the hull as shown in this picture.
(https://i.imgur.com/57c7mNr.jpg)
The first planking is made of 1,5x5mm basswood. This is a standard material to build ship models. Before applying the planks they were cooked in boiled water to soften them and fixed with clothes pegs.
(https://i.imgur.com/ghEVlw7.jpg)
For the side walls I use three layers to stabilize the walls.
(https://i.imgur.com/WVq9rlt.jpg)
To shape the curves I use a vibrating grinder; this tool is awesome and it is very fast
(https://i.imgur.com/FPWRJKL.jpg)
The final planking is made with walnut 0,5x5mm planks.
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Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 20, 2020, 06:34:59 PM: Thank-you very much for the tutorial.
:o
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Post by: McMordain on January 20, 2020, 10:07:11 PM: This is a great build, looks really nice! :-*
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Post by: Hupp n at em on January 22, 2020, 09:15:46 PM: Looks incredible so far! Is it going to sit on the table as it is currently, or is it going to be based?
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Post by: Codsticker on January 23, 2020, 12:50:45 AM: Quote from: Mick_in_Switzerland on January 20, 2020, 06:34:59 PM
Thank-you very much for the tutorial.
:o
Seconded, really useful information. Very impressive project.
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Post by: Hammers on January 23, 2020, 08:08:16 AM: Fantastic!
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Post by: ichwillauch on February 27, 2020, 01:55:11 PM: Real life caught my time, so now I'm in a great hurry to get things finished if possible...

(https://i.imgur.com/yTyxNp4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VmIpcTS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Kqfoshg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/We1gZke.jpg)
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Post by: Daeothar on February 27, 2020, 02:24:21 PM: Wow; that is some really impressive (wood)work there! 8)

It's almost a shave to let her sink...

One question; where are the guns from?
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Post by: Codsticker on February 27, 2020, 03:14:44 PM: Quote from: Daeothar on February 27, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
Wow; that is some really impressive (wood)work there! 8)

It's almost a shame to let her sink...
I agree! :D
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Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 27, 2020, 03:18:35 PM: Great stuff :)
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Post by: Grumpy Gnome on February 27, 2020, 03:30:37 PM: Lovin’ it! Thanks for sharing this project, I have a weakness for galleons. Looking forward to seeing the completed project. Keep up the great work!
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Post by: ichwillauch on February 27, 2020, 03:43:26 PM: Thanks very much for the nice comments!

Quote from: Daeothar on February 27, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
One question; where are the guns from?

The guns were extracted from a warehouse sketchup model ship: https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/9b5bef21-6b15-456f-8ac9-37e8d1a990ba/ANCIENT-SPANISH-GALEON-CIRCA-1600 (https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/9b5bef21-6b15-456f-8ac9-37e8d1a990ba/ANCIENT-SPANISH-GALEON-CIRCA-1600) and converted into a stl file for 3d printing.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ChFvBg.jpg)
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Post by: AKULA on February 27, 2020, 04:14:59 PM: Beautiful work... so many inspiring projects in this years BSC

8)
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Post by: gamer Mac on February 27, 2020, 05:41:45 PM: Lovely :-* :-* :-*
keep at it you are almost there
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Post by: Blackwolf on February 27, 2020, 06:58:03 PM: Fantastic work 8)
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Post by: ichwillauch on March 08, 2020, 10:10:00 AM: Final picture sent. Again this was a very funny, inspiring and informative Contest. Thanks to Hammers for organisation!
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Post by: Daeothar on March 09, 2020, 08:40:37 AM: Quote from: ichwillauch on February 27, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
The guns were extracted from a warehouse sketchup model ship: https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/9b5bef21-6b15-456f-8ac9-37e8d1a990ba/ANCIENT-SPANISH-GALEON-CIRCA-1600 (https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/9b5bef21-6b15-456f-8ac9-37e8d1a990ba/ANCIENT-SPANISH-GALEON-CIRCA-1600) and converted into a stl file for 3d printing.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ChFvBg.jpg)

Thanks for the info; I should be able to do that on my own, but I really need to take the time to get that printer set up and get acquainted with slicing software etc... ::)