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Miniatures Adventure => Gothic Horror => Topic started by: Cacique Caribe on January 01, 2020, 12:45:49 AM
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Has it ever been done in film, or novels or (I hope) miniature gaming?
And, if Werewolves Vs Cowboys has already been done in wargaming circles, what rules were used or suggested?
https://sep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-133546587642587_2264_104544179
http://www.splinteredlightminis.com/werewolves.html
(https://meeples.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/15hor101-1.jpg)
https://www.oldglory25s.com/view_product.php?product=15HOR-101
Thanks
Dan
PS. I’m one of those who likes one or two creature variables in fantasy settings, as opposed to an entire universe of fantasy or horror creatures. In other words, I can only suspend my belief in small doses. So, in this case, one type of monster against the humans ... werewolves. :)
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=121688.0
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You might get some ideas from the film Dog Soldiers, a bit Magnificent 7 for modern times,just retrofit it :)
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... Dog Soldiers, a bit Magnificent 7 for modern times ... :)
That’s absolutely the best description I have ever read for Dog Soldiers! Lol
I did a little more digging ... Has anyone seen BLOOD MOON? Here’s the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7L3hVNbmY4
(https://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Blood-Moon-movie-2014-Jeremy-Wooding-5.jpg)
(https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Blood-Moon-Werewolf-Still-Jeremy-Wooding.png)
https://horrornews.net/101682/film-review-blood-moon-2014/
http://filmreviewsfromthebasement.blogspot.com/2015/08/cowboys-and-werewolves-oh-my.html
Also, there seem to have been a couple of comic books too:
(http://www.freaksugar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/HighMoonVolume1_Large_Logo.jpg)
http://www.freaksugar.com/david-gallaher-high-moon-interview/
So it’s about time someone did a game or two based on the premise (cowboys VS werewolves), wouldn’t you think? :)
Dan
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Gaming wise, Dracula's America is pretty close to this.
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Love the High Moon image :-*
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Isn’t that like cowboys vs Native American skin changers ?
Seen that done before .
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Isn’t that like cowboys vs Native American skin changers ?
Seen that done before .
Wow. As a movie or a game? Or both?
Gaming wise, Dracula's America is pretty close to this.
Interesting. Is that a strictly human VS vampire game universe, or does it include a whole runaway mess of other fantasy/horror creatures as well? Like I said, my ability to suspend belief has some definite limits. :)
Dan
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Dracuala’s America has a whole host of different supernatural creatures within it (including Native American skin changers). But you don’t need to use them all - the core game engine is good and would give a good game without any supernatural parts.
But if you have a preferred Old West or Skirmish game it may be as easy to add werewolves to that, as to get DAM and leave out lots of bits.
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Where are the tyrannosaurs in F-16s?
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Where are the tyrannosaurs in F-16s?
Lol. I can only handle one major discrepancy in the reality matrix in any given scenario:
Cowboys VS T-Rex, okay
Cowboys VS F-16s, okay
Cowboys VS T-Rexes flying F-16s, not so much
Just the same way that I like my monster movies. One - and only one - monster type for the whole film. Once you start adding more, the horror effect turns into comedy. :)
Dan
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Wow. As a movie or a game? Or both?
Interesting. Is that a strictly human VS vampire game universe, or does it include a whole runaway mess of other fantasy/horror creatures as well? Like I said, my ability to suspend belief has some definite limits. :)
Dan
It was blood moon thinking about it ?
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I dunno. But Blood Moon seems to be on (Amazon) Prime Video’s lineup. I found it there earlier today and selected it for viewing later on, when the missus is busy elsewhere. She’s not a big fan of horror. :)
Love the High Moon image :-*
Me too! I wonder if the inside pages are just as cool.
Dan
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THWG High Moon rules might work for you but you would need to have normal humans on the Werewolves side (I think) if you only wanted to have one, also Pulp Alley rules would work for this as it allows for building very powerful horror creatures, plus it has a horror deck that would add to the uncertainty of the game.
Hope that helps & that no matter what why you go about us you come back & give us an AAR to let us know how it all went :)
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THWG High Moon rules might work for you but you would need to have normal humans on the Werewolves side (I think) if you only wanted to have one ...
I have a couple of their rules already, so I’ll look it up.
Thanks so much!
Dan
PS. My wife suggested a few buildings (cabins?) on one corner and the entrance to the silver mine on the opposite corner, leaving the middle with some miners’ shacks, woods and a gully, ravine or something irregular terrain. So the goal for humans would be to safely escort the civilians away from the vulnerable “town” and toward the protection of the silver coated mines. How does that sound?
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IIRC the final season of Penny Dreadful had a Wild West werewolf encounter.
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If I were a werewolf, I would stay the hell away from a silver mining town.
-Michael
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If I were a werewolf, I would stay the hell away from a silver mining town.
-Michael
Point well taken!! lol lol
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If I were a werewolf, I would stay the hell away from a silver mining town.
-Michael
Michael
That’s why the werewolves left that town for last. :)
It’s the spot for a final showdown. The one place werewolves where have never dared to raid freely, the way they tend to do everywhere else.
Humans vs werewolves ... who will win in a town with so much silver ore so close beneath the ground? What are these beasts after in such a place? A special individual? A prized object that no mere human has any right to have? Or an object that could spell doom for all werewolves everywhere? Or is it all about bragging rights, for having conquered the one town all other werewolves have feared to step into?
QUESTIONS:
A) What would be an appropriate name for such a small mining town? A clever compound name? Or something foreign-sounding, on the topic of silver or the Moon, perhaps? Suggestions?
B) And how many of the residents do you think would be properly prepared for the raid, with silver bullets and other choice weapons and defenses? Any thoughts or ideas?
Dan
PS. Michael, I had been waiting all this time for someone to make that precise comment. :)
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Just watched the movie Blood Movie. Not bad at all. Decent plot, good acting and overall fun.
Makes me want to do a werewolf and cowboy game.
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Just watched the movie Blood Movie ... Makes me want to do a werewolf and cowboy game.
Awesome. So what’s keeping you from trying such a game? :)
Dan
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Oh, I will. I have a western town, gunslingers and werewolves.
It will happen soon. :D
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I was just thinking; what if the mining town thought they were all set for the werewolf attack,except for one thing,silver is a myth...
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I was just thinking; what if the mining town thought they were all set for the werewolf attack,except for one thing,silver is a myth...
LOL. That would be hilarious!
Oh, I will. I have a western town, gunslingers and werewolves.
It will happen soon. :D
I can’t wait to hear of your progress with that project.
Dan
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If I were a werewolf, I would stay the hell away from a silver mining town.
Control the silver conquer the West. Think like an executive werewolf!
Hmm, the reviews for that Blood Moon movie look decent, may have to track down a copy.
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I have used "The Rules With No Name" and a fan made expansion called "Scary Monsters of the Golden West" by Walter O'Hara. I used these rules in a game where I had an Indian attack on a cattle town to steal cattle and the Indian band included a shape shifting wolf warrior. The rules allow the use of a band of ware wolves lead by a wolf warrior or an Indian shaman.
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Splintered Light now has these awesome looking “Wolfen”, sculpted by Ben Siens:
http://splinteredlightminis.com/wolfenwarriors.html
Dan
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Splintered Light now has these awesome looking “Wolfen”, sculpted by Ben Siens:
http://splinteredlightminis.com/wolfenwarriors.html
Dan
Those look really good, Thanks for the heads up. The wife and I just finished watching "Blood Moon" I thought it pretty good, I like the idea that is was at a stagecoach stop and not the whole town.
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Those look really good, Thanks for the heads up. The wife and I just finished watching "Blood Moon" I thought it pretty good, I like the idea that is was at a stagecoach stop and not the whole town.
Or a small cluster of mining cabins out in the middle of the brush and woods!
So perhaps just 2, 3 or even 4 small cabins or mining shacks. Add a couple of tents, a supply hut, etc. And the entrance to the mine, of course, but on the opposite side of the board, with a tool shed, etc.
Dan
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Control the silver conquer the West. Think like an executive werewolf!
Hmm, the reviews for that Blood Moon movie look decent, may have to track down a copy.
Now your talking lady :)
“I’m just a wolf,trying to get along”
Enjoying this thread all :)
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Tonight’s a full moon, isn’t it?
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-erbl22owevA/WnLcAU8JLTI/AAAAAAAAEs4/ttsGPxAOgZgun1F2VsYbrdOeds3Q071igCLcBGAs/s1600/full%2Bmoon%2Bgif.gif)
Perhaps I’ll finally watch Blood Moon. I’m feeling an uncontrollable itch behind my ear, and an overwhelming need to howl. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7L3hVNbmY4
(https://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Blood-Moon-movie-2014-Jeremy-Wooding-5.jpg)
More: http://www.bloodmoonthemovie.com/gallery.html
Dan
UPDATE - Just watched Blood Moon. Not bad at all. I can definitely see some gaming potential.
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This project just sounds like a lot of fun, Cacique Caribe.
Your questions:
"What would be an appropriate name for such a small mining town? A clever compound name? Or something foreign-sounding, on the topic of silver or the Moon, perhaps? Suggestions?"
Something with "silver" in the title? Silver Hill, Silver Creek, or something. Or somebody's "Luck" (Calloway's Luck, Van der Berg's Luck, etc.)?
"And how many of the residents do you think would be properly prepared for the raid, with silver bullets and other choice weapons and defenses? Any thoughts or ideas?"
You said earlier that the werewolves had left this town for last, so I would think most are all of them would be prepared, since they would likely have heard word of their fallen neighbors.
-Michael
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Michael
Thanks so much for the replies. Spot on. I do wonder how the silver would affect the range and accuracy of the firearms.
I am currently looking at using these 2 HO-scale paper kits as “templates” for making actual balsa and basswood counterparts. They’ll be done with removable roofs:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1492/5244/files/Back2.jpg)
1) https://www.modeltrainsoftware.com/pages/mb-free-building
(https://www2.illinois.gov/dnrhistoric/Preserve/PublishingImages/lincoln_model_lincoln_berry_01.jpg)
2) https://www2.illinois.gov/dnrhistoric/Preserve/Pages/construct_LincolnBerry.aspx
To these I’ll add a couple of tool sheds, etc. then surround the area with woods, and a road to the mine entrance in one direction and to the outside world in the other direction. Perhaps even a small stream.
Thoughts anyone? Too simplistic for a skirmish game?
Dan
PS. Here are 3 more suitable structures, if the top ones don’t seem enough:
(https://www2.illinois.gov/dnrhistoric/Preserve/PublishingImages/ShastidHouse2.jpg)
3) https://www2.illinois.gov/dnrhistoric/Preserve/Documents/Shastid%20House%20model.pdf
(https://www2.illinois.gov/dnrhistoric/Preserve/PublishingImages/lincoln_model_log_cabin_01.jpg)
4) https://www2.illinois.gov/dnrhistoric/Preserve/Pages/Construct_thomas.aspx
And one for the warmer regions of the world:
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f6/7a/3c/f67a3c96b390f3512dd3dd47646a73a5--paper-architecture-style-cottage.jpg)
5) https://www.zelmeroz.com/album_model/cardmodels/HO_Cottage_lz.pdf
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Makes you wonder why "The lone Ranger" used silver bullets!? :o
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Did he now?!?
If so, there must have been a big part of the story that was left out. :)
Dan
EDIT - Look at what I found:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XI71yiFWPSw/WfmvmszzyuI/AAAAAAAADfM/4mfX5tjrOQoiXXiLfawJRb8i-XiI1DMRACLcBGAs/s1600/2029.jpg)
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Nice find Dan!
Yes he did in the old black and white TV series, it was like his calling card. Other then "Who was that masked Man?".
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The fictional story line maintains that a patrol of six Texas Rangers is massacred, with only one member surviving. The "lone" survivor is found and nursed back to health by an Indian Tonto. They travel throughout Texas and the American West to assist those harassed by lawless elements. A silver mine supplies the Lone Ranger with the name of his horse as well as the funds required to finance his work. He makes his signature silver bullets to serve as a calling card of sorts. I am not sure he ever used them as ammunition and it was never used in the movies, radio or TV show to deal with supernatural creatures.
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I guess i missed it all. The truth is that I came to mainland US after they stopped playing those reruns.
Maybe that’s why I’m intrigued over Westerns now, in my old age, when I can pick whatever I want to watch or play. So many Westerns, so little time. :)
Dan
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Well I tried my hand in doing it.
I set up my Western Town and got out my werewolves. I used Fear and Faith with some Western variant rules that I have found on TMP and LAF.
I made the Earp brothers, Wyatt, Virgil, Morgan and Warren along with Doc Holliday "monster hunters" taking on four werewolves. Worked really
well but the werewolves won in the end. So much for hunting monsters! Maybe they will do better against the skeleton gunfighters I have.
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Inkpaduta
Sounds like it was a fun game! Did you get to take any pics?
How many figures per side did you have? What sort of terrain? All “urban”? What would you do different? What would you keep the same?
Dan
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Cacique,
Alas I am a non-tech person (I still use a flip phone) so no pictures.
To your other questions;
Figures per side: It was the four Earp brothers and Doc verses four werewolves.
Terrain/urban: I used my painted Hovel western town (which is beautiful) with some trees, two wagons and various barrels ect. Totally urban.
Do different: I may go with one less werewolf. The Earps killed two but then were overcome. In Fear and faith werewolves are fast and
tough to kill. Once they got into melee with the Earps they had a big advantage. When they Earps could use there weapons (they had silver
bullets as they were monster hunters) they had the edge.
Keep the Same: Most of it. The rules are good especially with the Wild West variant rules. I have also now re-fought the game using skeleton
gunfighters. This game was a victory for the Earps. I also will be doing it with zombies, Vampire gunfighters, Wendigo, mutant Confederates and the Gothic gunfighters from Artizan.
Any other questions just let me know.
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Fantastic info. Thanks so much!
Dan
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Anytime for a fellow TMP exile! :)
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I do wonder how the silver would affect the range and accuracy of the firearms.
Probably not much, the density of silver is only slightly less than the density of lead, and only slightly harder on the Mohs scale.
Anyone remember 'The Beast Must Die'? A millionaire uses silver bullets by the clip in an Uzi! A silver mine could provide plenty of decent ammo for those pesky varmints no doubt.
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Excellent info, Cubs. Then it shouldn’t prompt any rules changes from normal limits for lead bullets.
Thanks so much.
Dan
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Tonight’s a full moon, isn’t it?
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-erbl22owevA/WnLcAU8JLTI/AAAAAAAAEs4/ttsGPxAOgZgun1F2VsYbrdOeds3Q071igCLcBGAs/s1600/full%2Bmoon%2Bgif.gif)
Perhaps I’ll finally watch Blood Moon. I’m feeling an uncontrollable itch behind my ear, and an overwhelming need to howl. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7L3hVNbmY4
(https://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Blood-Moon-movie-2014-Jeremy-Wooding-5.jpg)
More: http://www.bloodmoonthemovie.com/gallery.html
Dan
Imagine if a werewolf got fleas that would be a big frontline spot on 😂😂😂
UPDATE - Just watched Blood Moon. Not bad at all. I can definitely see some gaming potential.
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3 fingers: “Imagine if a werewolf got fleas that would be a big frontline spot on 😂😂😂”
That would be a fun thing to watch ... from a good distance. Lol
Dan
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So Jim, you're saying that these "werewolves" are trying to shut down all the silver mines in the west?
Exactly, Artie. The Treasury Department, the State Department, and President Grant want us to put a stop to the werewolves.
State Department too?
Because if the minting of silver Trade Dollars grinds to a halt, so does our trading with China.
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That would make a great premise for a game or campaign.
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Whoa, it certainly would!
Dan
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I did track down a copy of the Blood Moon dvd on EBay — it's really good!
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Blood Moon definitely needs a sequel!
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I watched it too because of this thread. Enjoyed it.
-Michael
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I’m already looking for a 15mm figure for the guy in the black hat.
(https://miro.medium.com/max/2800/0*zNKozk38keLxsqgw.jpg)
(https://miro.medium.com/max/2528/0*XjcaNxM1zKj-UNMC.jpg)
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Ok, I think I may have come to a dead end. I can’t find that heavy-coated 15mm figure anywhere.
Suggestions, please?
Dan
(http://www.ravenousmonster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/blood-moon-screen-shot.jpg)
(https://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Blood-Moon-movie-2014-Jeremy-Wooding-6.jpg)
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Gzg miniature colonists
Darkest star games
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Excellent idea! Thanks
Dan
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FYI. Did you guys know that CP Models has started making 15mm Wild West minis? Check them out:
https://cpmodels.co.uk/product-category/15mm-ranges/15mm-wild-west/
I just placed an order a few days ago. Can’t wait to see what they look like in person.
They might even provide a few figures for this werewolf scenario! :)
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I just found this topic. My friends and I did cowboys vs werewolves, zombies, tremor worms, and vampires, you can see my blog entry about it at https://rollin-with-my-homies.blogspot.com/2020/07/cowboys-vs-zombies.html
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Punkrabbit
Fantastic! Any suggestions for anyone attempting a Cowboys vs werewolves game?
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FYI. Did you guys know that CP Models has started making 15mm Wild West minis?
Nice find Dan. I love Whiffwaff's sculpts!
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Wow, I guess he has added Apaches since I last checked the link!
Maybe the Apaches join the palefaces to fight the werewolves?
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This scary “werewolf” story could easily be adapted to Colonial or Old West days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMbY_AFXGX0
Dan
(https://thecovenantofsorcerousfire.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/w1.jpg)
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Update
I may have found some much needed inspiration for a proper mining complex. Check out the photos in the first page here, on this other topic:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=111509.0
Dan
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A nice find, looks like it would be a great Silver Mine, I myself would like to see more mining tracks within the mine.
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Glad you like it. :) I‘ve added some more pictures of the mine.
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I love the additional photos!
Dan