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Title: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on January 15, 2020, 12:10:32 AM
Finally throwing my hat into the ring.  I've been exceptionally busy with real life the past few weeks, but hope to get enough time for an entry.

My first thought when the contest was announced was to build a ruined version of the Folly I built for BSC2018.  However, the rock outcrop for it was a piece of bark and I didn't think I would be able to find a matching piece.  It would also be very time consuming, time that I don't envisage having in the coming weeks.

Therefore I have decided to build some generic ruins.  Most of my terrain is desert based, so it will fit in with that. I have a scenario for a future Back of Beyond game that needs some archaeological ruins/dig site so have decided to make it suitable for that.  By making some elements removable, and with the addition of further items post BSC, I hope to make it a fairly useful item for other periods/genre: Back of Beyond, Pulp, Fantasy, Mogadishu'93, Sci-Fi (SG1, Dune, 7TV), Post Apoc, etc

My rough scribblings and thoughts:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-150120012209-43511164.jpeg)

I will be making two or three separate bases.  Two of actual ruins and a third (If time allows) of some excavations.
The ruined walls will have wooden scaffold that can be removed depending on period/scenario.

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Blackwolf on January 15, 2020, 12:54:43 AM
Sounds good, I look forward to your build!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on January 15, 2020, 12:56:24 AM
Glad to see you joining the fun Paul
Good luck with your build
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Vanvlak on January 15, 2020, 05:51:48 AM
Can we use that site for our summer 2020 Uni archaeology fieldwork?  :D
We'd need awnings, the sun DOES get hot in late June... ;)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Hammers on January 15, 2020, 09:32:08 AM
This is a great idea. I wish I had come up with it...
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: AKULA on January 15, 2020, 05:29:40 PM
Excellent idea - look forward to watching your progress

 :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on January 15, 2020, 11:51:56 PM
Many thanks for the comments and encouragement.  :)

Can we use that site for our summer 2020 Uni archaeology fieldwork?  :D
We'd need awnings, the sun DOES get hot in late June... ;)
Awnings aren't something I had considered.  I defer to your expertise and hope I don't give you too many glaring errors to pick me up on.  My archaeology experience is limited to watching episodes of Time Team and digging up a US steel helmet in my grandparents garden when I was 10.  :D

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on January 16, 2020, 12:01:59 AM
A mock-up of what I am aiming for:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-150120012210-435122448.jpeg)

All just balanced together to give me an idea of layout etc.  The 'stone' blocks of blue foam that will be sanded to take the edges off.  The cardboard and cocktail sticks as temporary scaffold. 
The early work on the project is being overseen by the eminent archaeologist Sir Doug Test-Pitt.  ;)


Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Blackwolf on January 16, 2020, 12:40:10 AM
That looks brill Paul; I've said it before, worth stating again,I'm going to have to up my game,so many great ideas,and talented builders(erm). I can't believe I get a little competitive, just a wee bit lol
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Braz on January 16, 2020, 12:54:22 AM
That's going to be a great build. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Dr DeAth on January 16, 2020, 01:11:17 AM
The 'stone' blocks of blue foam that will be sanded to take the edges off.

If you put them in a tupperware box with some gravel and shake them it does the same thing, and it makes small surface dents etc. that 'age' the stone blocks.  The more vigorous you shake it the more dented they get.  You can also roll a handful together between your hands to round off the edges.

That's how I did the ones in this wall:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/1512-160120010744.jpeg)

I also tore the corners off a few blocks before the shaking process to get the damaged ones.

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Blackwolf on January 16, 2020, 01:18:20 AM
That's a great tip!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Burnin Coal on January 16, 2020, 07:50:21 AM
Two things....

(1) @ Overlord - this is a great idea....very evocative...will there be inscriptions ?

(2) @ Dr De’ath - that is a really good tip - thanks for sharing it
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 16, 2020, 09:43:01 AM
nice start
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Hu Rhu on January 16, 2020, 04:28:54 PM
Paul - Love the idea and the mock up. It has given me some ideas for an ancients game and terrain.

Mark - Great tip for the stones. Likewise with the ideas.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Malamute on January 16, 2020, 05:18:19 PM
Looking forward to this one. ;D
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Codsticker on January 20, 2020, 04:04:19 PM
Me too- I wanted to build an archeological dig site for a Pulp Alley table but never got around to it.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on January 20, 2020, 07:30:41 PM
If you put them in a tupperware box with some gravel and shake them it does the same thing, and it makes small surface dents etc. that 'age' the stone blocks.  The more vigorous you shake it the more dented they get.  You can also roll a handful together between your hands to round off the edges.

Thats a great tip Mark.  I had also considered rubble filled walls, like yours, but it would be too thick for what I have in mind.

Unfortunately I had already glued together most of one ruin before I read your post, so have continued with my original plan, 'ageing' the blocks with crunched up baking foil.

First ruin with untextured blocks:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-200120190017-43608669.jpeg)

Second ruin with textured blocks:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-200120190017-436091944.jpeg)

Ground texture and construction of the scaffolding to do next.


Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 20, 2020, 08:58:20 PM
Looks good Paul  8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on January 21, 2020, 12:45:38 AM
Looking good :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Codsticker on January 21, 2020, 04:20:26 AM
The texturing is subtle but a definite improvement- well done.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Malamute on January 21, 2020, 03:15:24 PM
I like this a lot :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: uti long smile on January 23, 2020, 07:05:01 PM
Loving it!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: AKULA on January 25, 2020, 09:57:26 AM
Looks great

 8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on January 26, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Thanks for all the comments.  :)

The texturing is subtle but a definite improvement- well done.
The camera doesnt really pick it up very well.  One bonus texturing it in situ is that the blocks 'squish' together a bit to appear tighter fitting.

Scaffolding:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-260120142003-436932291.jpeg)
Cocktail sticks, bamboo, balsa and coffee stirrers (Just for James  :D )  The planking isn't glued in place yet.  I need to add the rope holding the poles together before I do that.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-260120142003-43694953.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-260120142003-43695745.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-260120142003-436961132.jpeg)

I will leave the scaffolds free-standing so they can be added and removed depending how I want to use the ruins.

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on January 26, 2020, 03:03:24 PM
Very realistic :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Burnin Coal on January 26, 2020, 11:07:16 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: cahrn on January 27, 2020, 12:37:27 AM
Looking really nice so far. I'm sure the finished product will be great.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Dr Mathias on January 27, 2020, 02:05:06 AM
Excellent work so far. Very cool!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Hammers on January 27, 2020, 09:04:23 AM
Excellent work so far. Very cool!

Veryy clean and good looking  build. Paul.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on January 27, 2020, 07:47:26 PM
Now that most of the work is complete for the two main bases, I think that I will have time for a third. 

This will be lower level ruins, exposed as an archaeological dig:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-260120142108-43697367.jpeg)

Nothing stuck in place yet (just a big hole cut in the MDF), positioned to work out the layout.  Trying to represent different levels of digging. 

It could be used in conjuction with the other pieces or as a standalone item.


Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Blackwolf on January 27, 2020, 07:51:50 PM
Brilliant stuff Paul 8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on January 27, 2020, 08:18:13 PM
lovely detail
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Burnin Coal on January 27, 2020, 08:53:56 PM
Very nice....will make a great looking set up when they are all together
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Codsticker on January 28, 2020, 01:54:40 AM
I love the scaffolding- really well done- as are the flag stones.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: cahrn on January 28, 2020, 03:55:13 AM
Wow they're coming along great!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Romark on January 29, 2020, 10:25:36 PM
Nice progress on this build Paul  :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: AKULA on February 01, 2020, 09:34:53 AM
Great progress  8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on February 03, 2020, 10:20:09 PM
Thanks chaps.  :)

The build phase of the archaeology base is pretty much done:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-030220221237-438002006.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/43/369-030220221237-438031826.jpeg)

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on February 04, 2020, 12:16:02 AM
digging up skeletons alway slow down the work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
looking forward to the painting
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Malamute on February 10, 2020, 03:19:10 PM
Looking excellent already ;D
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Vanvlak on February 10, 2020, 05:00:15 PM
Cool! That's more than we usually find in our digs :D
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on March 02, 2020, 11:52:48 AM
Minor work done; such as sealing everything with thinned PVA to provide a bit more durability.  I still haven't added rope to the scaffolding yet. 

Last chance for (lots of) pics before painting commences:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111802-442701800.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111802-442711776.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111802-442721200.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111802-44273836.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111638-44268133.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111802-442691170.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111637-44266279.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/369-020320111637-442651312.jpeg)

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Malamute on March 02, 2020, 02:22:00 PM
That's jolly good, looking forward to seeing it with some paint on it next ;D
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: fluffy05 on March 02, 2020, 02:39:36 PM
How good is this!

Absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Codsticker on March 02, 2020, 03:17:26 PM
One week to go- it's going to look awesome! 8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Romark on March 02, 2020, 03:30:10 PM
Looks great  8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Captain Blood on March 02, 2020, 05:06:30 PM
All rather brilliant Paul. What a lovely set of terrain pieces  :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: AKULA on March 02, 2020, 05:19:12 PM
Couldn’t agree more...what a great looking set of terrain, can’t wait to see them painted

 8)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Blackwolf on March 02, 2020, 08:43:08 PM
Brilliant stuff Paul,can't wait to see it painted   :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on March 02, 2020, 11:08:03 PM
Looking great Paul a very useful terrain set :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: syrinx0 on March 03, 2020, 02:08:39 AM
These will make for a fantastic Pulp table.   :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on April 01, 2020, 12:19:44 PM
Here are a few pics of the finished entry:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-010420120725-45171712.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-010420120725-451741069.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-010420120725-451731093.jpeg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/45/369-010420120725-45172431.jpeg)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Dr Mathias on April 01, 2020, 12:28:31 PM
That came out great, I love the rectangular excavation pits.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Hammers on April 01, 2020, 01:02:44 PM
I thing of beauty. I am sure I'll be constructing something like it shortly. In my book your build is just as qualified as any other making it to rounds 2 and 3.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on April 01, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
Waiting to see a game with this in it Paul
Need to be a solo game though :'(
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Swordisdrawn on April 01, 2020, 04:09:06 PM
The finished article is brilliant. Well played.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Hu Rhu on April 02, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
That's a great piece of terrain.

Waiting to see a game with this in it Paul


Seconded.  BLAM maybe?
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: uti long smile on April 10, 2020, 10:59:38 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: marianas_gamer on April 10, 2020, 11:08:11 PM
Thanks for the extra photos, very nice!
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Blackwolf on April 11, 2020, 01:03:12 AM
I thing of beauty. I am sure I'll be constructing something like it shortly. In my book your build is just as qualified as any other making it to rounds 2 and 3.

Totally,excellent build :-*
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on April 12, 2020, 03:32:33 PM
Thanks all.  :)

The standard of entries this year was outstanding.  I really didn't mind getting knocked out in round 1, as many others were also eliminated that could have gone further. 

For a change, my BSC entry actually has a practical use so will see service on the table (once hostilities are able to resume).  All my previous BSC builds have seen little or no subsequent use.  I will try to take a few pics of the ruins in different settings/periods, even if not from a real game (yet).
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Codsticker on April 12, 2020, 08:34:57 PM
I will try to take a few pics of the ruins in different settings/periods, even if not from a real game (yet).
That would be great to see- you could play a solo game and post pixpls. :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on August 05, 2020, 11:40:44 PM
That would be great to see- you could play a solo game and post pixpls. :)

First (face to face) Back of Beyond game since February, played this afternoon: Somewhere in China

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/47/369-050820231456-47753171.jpeg)

British Army & archaeologists vs Warlord Chinese: Sir Doug Test-Pitt removing valuable artifacts for onward transport to the safety of the V&A.


Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Dr Mathias on August 06, 2020, 03:17:35 AM
Good to see the piece in play, nice work :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 06, 2020, 05:53:23 AM
Splendid  :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: AKULA on August 06, 2020, 06:46:08 AM
I see James’s “Splendid”, and raise you a “Tremendous”

 :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Captain Blood on August 06, 2020, 07:34:37 AM
I knew it would come in useful!  :)
Looks great Paul.
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: gamer Mac on August 06, 2020, 07:52:39 AM
I Thought I had already commented on this ?
but still a lovely model  :-* :-* :-*
where is the rest of the battle report?
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: has.been on August 06, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
+1 to the nice job AND +1 to the request for the battle report (& more action pictures).
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on August 06, 2020, 11:46:21 AM
where is the rest of the battle report?

Sadly not much else to show  :-[.  I took a few pics of the ruins early on in the game, then forgot to take any more as we became engrossed in only our second wargame since February. 

A close-up of the Brits in the ruins:
(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/47/369-060820114328-47761776.jpeg)

Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: JBaumal on August 21, 2021, 02:27:40 AM
Brilliant build!!! Any chance I’m getting the color palette used?
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Dr Mathias on August 22, 2021, 03:02:04 AM
Looks great :)
Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: Overlord on August 28, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
Brilliant build!!! Any chance I’m getting the color palette used?

Thanks Jeff. Hope you are keeping well.

Bit of a memory test, as I didn't record what I used. ::)

The groundwork/sand colour is mixed from cheap acrylic Yellow Ochre with a bit of Burnt Umber in it.  Drybrushed with cream, then again with some white mixed in, to match the rest of my existing desert-ish terrain.

The stonework is (I think) the Foundry Rawhide triad (11). Basecoated with 11A, liberally washed with GW Agrax Earthshade thinned with water.  After allowing to completely dry, drybushed with 11B, then 11C.  The foam blocks have lots of texture that the drybrushing picks out.

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/52/369-280821112417-525931877.jpeg)


Title: Re: BSC 2020 Overlord's Archaeological Ruins
Post by: uti long smile on August 28, 2021, 12:07:46 PM
Tis a thing of beauty!