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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: nicknorthstar on January 22, 2020, 10:03:43 AM
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We've just had confirmation we'll be getting the new game from Warwick Kinrade in February, Soldiers of Rome. Warwick has a number of rulesets under his belt, the Battlegroup WW2 series, Normandy Firefight and Soldiers of God. Soldiers of Rome is going to be in the same family as Soldiers of God.
Here's his description of the game:
'Soldiers of Rome' is a full battle game, utilizing units of between 8-20 models (cavalry is 4-8 models), in either small fast moving Raids, Field Battles (the standard line-up and fight) or Siege Assaults (one sides gets a fortress to defend, the other attacks it).
It is card-driven, using an action card deck (which will come with the rulebook), to give orders to each of your army's 'Battles'. A 'Battle' is a sub-division of the army, a third of it, either the left, centre or right Battle. These can all act together on the same action card.
The way action cards and Battles interact is governed by your overall Battle Plan, which is a pre-chosen plan of attack (or sometimes defence), which dictates which cards your Battles get for this engagement. These set cards are then added to with random drawn ones, so each game gets an entertaining level of unpredictability, and the cards will never allow a game to be played the same way twice - even if you you used the same forces, over the same terrain, with the same battle plans, the game would still play-out differently.
Picking a force is from one of the three army lists in the game, Roman Legions, Barbarians and Parthians, in a familiar way, except the scenario being played adds restrictions to this. So, Raiding forces look very different to fortress garrison forces or those deployed for a field battle. Each army can be further characterised by its Stratagem, helping, along with the action cards, to bring the character of the army to the fore. Siege Train equipment, ruses and tactics are also available, but only in Siege Assault games.
The rules aren't scale specific, they will be playable at all scales, because the players pick the ground scale and measurements based on their miniatures collection and table-size.
I'm going to invite him on here so you can bombard him with questions.
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When will you have it up for order Nick?
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Ancients seems to be the "Hotness" right now!
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We're expecting it mid-February. We'll put it up for pre-order in the beginning of Feb, along with some army deals using Victrix plastic Ancients.
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Pre orders beginning of Feb, brilliant, save me checking your site everyday.
Only wanting 12 copies for the club.
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Siege rules!
interesting !
:)
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Siege rules!
interesting !
:)
We played a couple of sieges using Soldiers of God great fun.
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Super awesome !!!
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The latest issue of Wargames Illustrated has a 2 page run through of Soldiers of Rome with Warwick:
http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14584 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14584)
As it's in the public arena, I've made it available for pre-order now, but Warwick has said it's not expected before the 15th of Feb.
Just for you guys, if you order it before the 1st of Feb, type this code into our shopping cart Rome1. It'll give you a £5.50 discount, which is to minimise the post cost.
You can order here: http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14626 (http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14626)
We're putting some army deals together as well, as recommended by Warwick, using Victrix plastics.
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Yeeeees!
Just emailed an order for 13 copies for South East Scotland
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Soldiers of Rome has just arrived, earlier than expected.
We'll start getting the preorders out tomorrow.
Cheers
Nick
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Nice, another skirmish based game. Maybe I can adapt it for my Republicans.
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It's not. It's full size battles. You might have been tricked by Warwick talking about 8-20 models. That's per unit. I think you need 5+ units.
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Maybe ti will helps to put example of one army in three game formats? I still dont know how many minis I need etc.
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It's not. It's full size battles. You might have been tricked by Warwick talking about 8-20 models. That's per unit. I think you need 5+ units.
Even better if that is the case!
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It's hard to say what a typical army would be, as really each force is 3 mini-armies, forming the left, centre and right, and these each have their part in the battle plan, so are generally tailored towards their mission. It might be that (for the barbarians) you want to attack on the left, and have the main combat units here, maybe mounted nobles leading warriors with supporting chariots... or you are happy to just harass on the other flank with skirmishing missile troops and a few chariots, etc. There is wide variety of options.
But, here is a Roman force I used in one play test game, a large field battle (so as big as it gets).
Roman Legion
Centre
Command stand (mounted)
2 Units of Auxiliary Spearmen (4 stands each)
2 Units of Auxiliary Slingers (skirmishers) (3 stands each)
3 Scorpios (1 per stand)
1 Legionary Cohort (4 stands)
Left Flank
Command stand (on foot)
2 Legionary Cohorts (4 stands each)
1 Unit of Auxiliary Cavalry (4 stands)
Right Flank
Command stand (on foot)
3 Legionary Cohorts (1 had the Aquila Party upgrade) (4 stands each)
So, that's 48 stands, with 3-4 models per stand. Hope that helps. Barbarians forces are larger... I'd add at least 50%. Small field battles are half the size of large ones.
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Warwick -
From your description above and the WI flip-through, the rules look interesting. What is the recommended basing for 15mm figures? Are there any special period features that make SoR more appropriate for Imperial Roman armies than other, more 'generic' Ancients rulesets?
Cheers,
Scott
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Don't suppose there are any plans to extend to Hellenic and Hellenistic warfare . Got lots of Greeks and Macedonians but a bit uninspired by the current rules out there
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A while ago I remember reading that there were plans afoot to do a Dark Ages Shieldwall bash version of the rules Warwick. Is this plans still in the pipeline?
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I’ve bought the rules and they look good, but I can’t seem to find a forum anywhere..l does anyone know of one?
Thanks in advance.
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Is there really no online discussion about these rules? Not even by the designer?
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Is there really no online discussion about these rules? Not even by the designer?
Warwick K's posted above as the designer:
It's hard to say what a typical army would be, as really each force is 3 mini-armies, forming the left, centre and right, and these each have their part in the battle plan, so are generally tailored towards their mission. It might be that (for the barbarians) you want to attack on the left, and have the main combat units here, maybe mounted nobles leading warriors with supporting chariots... or you are happy to just harass on the other flank with skirmishing missile troops and a few chariots, etc. There is wide variety of options.
But, here is a Roman force I used in one play test game, a large field battle (so as big as it gets).
Roman Legion
Centre
Command stand (mounted)
2 Units of Auxiliary Spearmen (4 stands each)
2 Units of Auxiliary Slingers (skirmishers) (3 stands each)
3 Scorpios (1 per stand)
1 Legionary Cohort (4 stands)
Left Flank
Command stand (on foot)
2 Legionary Cohorts (4 stands each)
1 Unit of Auxiliary Cavalry (4 stands)
Right Flank
Command stand (on foot)
3 Legionary Cohorts (1 had the Aquila Party upgrade) (4 stands each)
So, that's 48 stands, with 3-4 models per stand. Hope that helps. Barbarians forces are larger... I'd add at least 50%. Small field battles are half the size of large ones.
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Which, of course, I read. Is that it?
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Which, of course, I read.
Yeah, I figured. ;)
Is that it?
A bit of google foo and voila.....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1131345000228309/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1131345000228309/)
I'm pretty sure the rules will have been discussed in some detail in that group- I hope you find what you need there :)
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Which, of course, I read. Is that it?
Not sure if it would help but there are a couple of youtube videos covering this rule set, just search on the rules title. It is interesting how many rulesets must be published and slip under the radar?
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It is interesting how many rulesets must be published and slip under the radar?
Which begs the question, what makes some rulesets become popular? What makes some rulesets drop under the radar?
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Which begs the question, what makes some rulesets become popular? What makes some rulesets drop under the radar?
I think that’s an excellent question. Certainly people expect an Internet presence nowadays and ideally some play through videos. Two Fat Lardies are doing well at this at the moment. Advertising and availability also play a part; I think having rules available in both hard copy and PDF widens your customer base. Obviously you need to have a reasonably playable game in the first place with enough general appeal, but I feel that the other factors are very important too.
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Which begs the question, what makes some rulesets become popular? What makes some rulesets drop under the radar?
Who publishes it.......
IDK
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might have to give these a go given i have sizeable roman and celt armies ;)
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Who publishes it.......
IDK
Artorus Games, they are available through North Star:
https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14626 (https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=14626)
I've got Soldiers of God, based in the Crusades (shock horror! :) ) and although they have never been played they read well as a set of rules.