Display board I was thinking a shingle beach and a sea wall... :'( or is that bad taste?How is that bad taste? I'd love to see how you model that, would be neat to make a game board of it.
The sea wall was the cause of most of the casualties. The infantry couldn't get off the beach and were cut down by enfilade fire from the cliffs and higher ground.Again, how is that bad taste?
Obviously I'd not do the casualties.
Trapped between the beach and high sea wall (fortified with barbed wire), they had made easy enfilade targets for MG34 machine guns in a German bunker. The bunker firing slit is visible in the distance, just above the German soldier's head.
The naval engagement between the small German convoy and the craft carrying No. 3 Commando had alerted the German defenders at Blue beach. The landing near Puys by the Royal Regiment of Canada plus three platoons from the Black Watch of Canada and an artillery detachment were tasked to neutralize machine gun and artillery batteries protecting this Dieppe beach. They were delayed by 20 minutes and the smoke screens that should have hidden their assault had already lifted. The advantages of surprise and darkness were thus lost, while the Germans had manned their defensive positions in preparation for the landings. The well-fortified German forces held the Canadian forces that did land on the beach. As soon as they reached the shore, the Canadians found themselves pinned against the seawall, unable to advance. The Royal Regiment of Canada was annihilated. Of the 556 men in the regiment, 200 were killed and 264 captured
The sea wall was the cause of most of the casualties. The infantry couldn't get off the beach and were cut down by enfilade fire from the cliffs and higher ground.
(https://i.imgur.com/4LBimEy.jpg)
Obviously I'd not do the casualties.
What a horrible image.
So is it a trip to B&Q for a polystyrene coving sea wall or are you going to torture yourself with a brickwall and an order for some Italian wallpaper?
So is it a trip to B&Q for a polystyrene coving sea wall or are you going to torture yourself with a brickwall and an order for some Italian wallpaper?Rich will 3d print it....
lol
Snake launchers. They fire something akin to bangalore torpedoes to clear wire and mines.
You've already got quite a collection of 'Funnies' So one of the bridge layers would be nice to see.But I reccomend a variant thats got a plausible in game role .Such as a variant that can be deployed as a bridge but more importantly a bridging ramp(then you've a focal point both visually and tactically on the board that isn't a static/built-in feature so more replay options.)But also its not a one trick pony in terms of gaming .It can be recycled for the comeback tour of '44
But out of sheer badness and to peak your curiosity. How about the Kangaroo variant?
Kangaroo bridgelayer?Is that an infantry bridge?
If something so aesthetically compromised and practically useless can be described as gorgeous, then that gun carrier is it. Love it!Too true.
Were Covenantors nearly invulnerable? Only one was lost to enemy action.
Covenantor tank's best protection was achieved by leaving it in a shed back in England. ;)I think that was where one was a casualty.
I think that was where one was a casualty.
Got an awesome book yesterday - Dieppe Through The Lens - a chap did his dissertation on the tanks of Dieppe - he has used photos from the training and the German war photographs to track every tank and vehicle on the beach. It describes what every vehicle did and has a pic of each. info is taken from interviews with survivors.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0900913762/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Have you finished this yet?
That is not a surprise ;) It's a standard British platoon structure and (unlike normal BA platoons ;D ) I've taken a full compliment of Brens.
It's just got a goodly amount of support to afford the Churchill!!
I have pursuaded (bribed) Mr Hicks to sculpt me some bailed out tank crew :D I feel they might be needed...That’s awesome news! Will these be for general sale at some point?
I have pursuaded (bribed) Mr Hicks to sculpt me some bailed out tank crew :D I feel they might be needed...
At right, a photo of Squadron Sergeant Major Gerry Menzies who came ashore with the Calgary Tank Regiment at Dieppe on 19 August 1942. He is shown here shortly after his capture. Of note is the undergarment he is wearing, printed with the cap badge of the Calgary Regiment.
Interesting but possibly a bit too specific!
We've not discussed details yet.
Oooh.....I have pursuaded (bribed) Mr Hicks to sculpt me some bailed out tank crew :D I feel they might be needed...That’s awesome news! Will these be for general sale at some point?
Loving this thread.
FYI Britain at War magazine did a very good feature on Dieppe in 2017. Back issues still available here...
https://shop.keypublishing.com/issue/View/issue/BAW0124/britain-at-war-aug2017
Colour and Shade
Scale modellers, artists and re-enactors all worry about the "correct" shade of the Battle Dress uniform. The truth is that there really is no one correct shade.
A look at original samples will reveal that no two items of army clothing ever really looked the same (as an aside, the East Germans in the 1970s and 1980s came close, by the use of large amounts of synthetic material.)
Many difference factors conspired against the possibility of finding two sets of Battle Dress in precisely the same shade:
different manufacturers
different dates of manufacture
different material lots
different dyes used in creation of those materials
different lengths of exposure to sun, salt water, and chemical impregnation (ie the use of anti-vessicants before D-Day)
storage facilities and stores that did not bother to keep matched BD suits
Even during the intial issue of Battle Dress in 1939, blouses and trousers were being produced by different factories; one regimental history noted that the colour was so vastly different that there was reluctance to issue the trousers and blouses together.
Thanks... but not a great start though...Ah, but there are lots of genuine photos inside in the article of the vehicles used in the raid and info on what each one did.
The Churchill on the cover is the wrong colour and it's got covers on the air intakes (taken off to fit wading kit ;) )
A very nice looking one too! Do keep it away from Meryl Streep and infants.Boom tish! He will be here all week....
All over it ;)
Need to draw the interior first so it can cover later war too
1/56 - bit tight for heroic infantry but consistent with the other vehicles (It's bloody tiny!)Good choice.
an hour scraping mould lines off infantry... and still more to do! :-[
Oooo - I'll be on the lookout for those whenever they come available! :)
Might I (humbly) suggest some of them with tunics opened to reveal "unit t-shirts" underneath?
Refer to http://canadiansoldiers.com/uniforms/unitshirt.htm
(http://canadiansoldiers.com/uniforms/volstad2.jpg)
If you don't have figures wearing the shirt, why not get a shirt embroidered to wear at the game?
German static infantry regiment squads with MG08/15s. In bolt action they are 3 shot LMGs but are 'fixed' so can't move and fire... But they are only 5 points. Pretty dangerous even in the hands of inexperienced troops!
Basic compulsory squad is 5-10 inexperienced troops with an MG08. The MG is part of the basic squad so there will be lots of them!
Just came to this thread now, it's been a great read and I love the project. Look forward to seeing the scenarios as a CoC version, I have Canadians ready to go, if not enough specialized Churchills (or a shingle beach, but details...).Cat litter = shingle beach , no? o_o
Chris
Main Landing on the Red and White beaches
The main landing beaches consisted of a shingle beach with several steep banks running parallel to the shore, then a sea wall that varied in height over the shingle between 2ft and 6ft. Beyond the sea wall was a 400ft wide promenade with extensive trenches on the landward side then the buildings of the city beyond. The roads into the town were blocked with 6ft Anti-Tank walls with steel gates. The east flank of the beach ended at the harbour entrance and the west flank was guarded by the remains of the casino, partially demolished and fortified. Access to the city was blocked with extensive anti-tank obstacles and the whole area dotted with trenches, snipers, AT guns and bunkers.
Objective
The Allies are looking to establish a foothold in the town and score one victory point for every unit completely on the promenade and three for every unit at completely within in the town.
The Germans are looking to drive the Allies back into the sea and receive two victory points per unit destroyed and one for every Allied unit still on the shingle.
Duration
The game lasts for 10 turns
Forces
Forces should be chosen form the ‘Operation Jubilee - Red Beach’, ‘Operation Jubilee -White Beach’ or ‘302nd Static Infantry Division’ selectors. The Allies have 50% more points than the Axis forces.
Setup
The game is played long edge to long edge. The allied edge is north.
The north edge is shingle beach (12”), then the sea wall (counts as a linear obstacle and hard cover but can be crossed by tracked vehicles), the promenade (36” of open ground) and 6” of the town. The roads into the town were all blocked by 6ft anti-tank walls but there was at least one route barred with a gate (Rue de Sygogne).
Deployment
At least half the German forces deploy within 12” of the south edge.
At least half the Allied units move on as a first wave. Allied snipers and spotters may not deploy forward.
All other units are in reserve and may not outflank.
Victory
If one side has scored two or more points more than the other they are the winner, any other result is a draw.
Scenario special rules
No way back – There was no way off the beach as most of the landing craft were destroyed or driven off - All Allied units gain the Stubborn Special Rule.
Preliminary bombardment – Both sides suffered from attrition prior to the landing either from Naval gunfire or coastal artillery – resolve a preliminary bombardment on both sides but treat all units as valid targets regardless of their location. Any off table unit that is hit by the bombardment will suffer one hit.
Shingle Beach - The shingle immobilised many of the vehicles. Shingle is open ground for tracked and soft skin vehicles but if a vehicle makes a turn or a run move roll a dice, on a 1 the vehicle is immobilised. Shingle is open ground for infantry but impassable for armoured wheeled vehicles.
Towed Dingo –The Dingos were towed off the landing craft by Churchills - At the start of the game a Dingo can be towed by a Churchill and ignores the shingle and the sea wall. A Towed Dingo remains in base contact with and receives the same order as the Churchill (no test required). Either the Churchill or Dingo can unhitch and move away as normal if desired.
Well Prepared Defences – Dieppe was a very well prepared and defended harbour – The German player may place one 6” trench and one 6” section of barbed wire on the promenade per infantry section.
MG Nests – German MG bunkers were well placed to cover the beaches – Before the game starts the German player may place one small bunker per MMG team anywhere on the promenade. MMG teams may deploy into one of these bunkers instead of in the deployment area. Units firing from the bunker have a fixed 90 degree fire arc and can be assaulted.
Pre-Ranged Mortars – The German mortars were ranged in on the beaches in advance – any German mortar team deployed on the table at the start of the game that has not moved from this position ranges in on the beach at +2 per shot instead of +1.
Operation Jubilee - Red and White Beaches – Bolt Action
302nd Static Infantry Division
1 Lieutenant (1st or 2nd)
2 Static Infantry Squads
plus:
Headquarters
0-1 Captain or Major
0-1 Medic
0-1 Artillery Observer
0-1 Air Observer
Infantry
0-3 Static Infantry Squads
0-2 Static Infantry Squads, Heer Squads, Luftwaffe Field Division Squads, Kriegsmarine Squads.
0-4 MMG teams
0-2 Light or Medium Mortar teams or 0-1 Heavy Mortar Team
0-2 Sniper Teams
Artillery
0-2 Pak36
0-1 Light (20mm) or Heavy Autocannon (37mm)
0-1 Light Howitzer (French 75mm), Medium Howitzer (Czech 10cm) or Pak 97/38
Tanks
0-2 FT-17 Pillbox, R35 Pillbox, FT-17
Special Rules
Second line troops – The defenders at Dieppe were largely reserve troops - No units may be veteran and at least half of the units chosen must be inexperienced.
Prepared positions – all units deployed on the table at the start of the game are in prepared positions that provide heavy cover.
Static Defences – The unit has been in place for several months and their positions are well prepared with barbed wire and minefields. The German player may place one 6” section of barbed wire up to half way across the table per infantry squad and one 6”x3” Anti-Personnel minefield per officer.
Panzer-Kompanie 81 - The R35 equipped Panzer-Kompanie 81 was ordered into the area but did not arrive in time to take part in the action; 0-1 R35 could be included if you wanted to expand the timeline slightly.
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=962.0 (http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=962.0)Now someone should make them commercially ...All over it ;)
Need to draw the interior first so it can cover later war too
Looking at those photos you have to wonder if anybody actually looked at the beaches before the landings ?
those ramps and beach exits look like death traps :o
Not quite right on the main landings either. The cliffs either side were largely ignored by the landing forces, they weren't a huge risk as they were a long way off or not noted by the intel. The main batteries a few Km north and south were targeted by separate commando and infantry landings. The commando raids silenced the batteries during the landings although only one was actually destroyed (by a 2" mortar hit on an ammo dump!)
Also the bobbins didn't have any effect on getting over the sea wall as it was only a foot high in places, around 16 tanks made it onto the prom but most of the engineers didn't make it off the beach.
Only 2 tanks were knocked out one by a lucky hit from a PaK36 and one by a Stuka but only one tanker was killed (trying to fix the tracks).
Also you know if you edit a post it says so... So please don't be dishonest... It said sea wall which I thought was odd hence my comment.
I meant tanks lost to enemy action. Several were lost to landing incidents and several were immobilized but not knocked out.
Well that came out nicely:
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Needs to dry, then on the windowsill to cure tomorrow, then paint.
Thanks! :)
I couldn't get my head around the change to KOCR as it's all mixed together.
Dam, they're all very lovely.
Slightly OTT, does anyone know what sort of dozer they flew in with the Chindits? They were glider borne IIRC.
It was the Clarkair CA-1, which although comparatively tiny weighed a lot more than the payload of the WACO they flew them in. I'd post a pic but my computer won't let me, but if you Google Clarkair CA-1 there's pictures of the one in IWM.