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Title: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on February 05, 2020, 10:26:57 PM
Oshiro Model Terrain, distributor of the Fistful of Lead games, and I got a few games of the Fantasy version of the game tested recently. All terrain and miniatures were provided by Oshiro Model Terrain (in fact the whole board and the buildings were built by him too!).

The first game saw a patrol from a nearby Imperial town come to investigate the fact that a local village had not been heard from in days. They were soon to find that they were not the only ones investigating the silent village as a band of orc raiders under the leadership of Shytbrik the Lucky had already appeared. The scenario was a straightforward hold the field game.

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Shytbrik and his men (orcs) had been searching the tower when they heard the clink of armour as the Imperial troops approached. Shytbrik was a cunning orc and didn't want to give himself away too early, at least not until he had a chance to introduce them to his friend Brillo the Bogtroll.

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The orcs pass through the village sending their troll up front. Shytbrik and his lieutenant Lazyeye head up to the rockface whilst Pishtosh and his orc archers follow Brillo.

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The Imperial troops approach the village. They have a cadre of hard fighting soldiers supported by a group of musketmen.

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The troll knocks on a door to see if anyone is home.

The Imperial troops approach cautiously, sending their musketmen down the right flank.

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The two forces meet in the middle of the village. Two of the biggest soldiers take on the troll and manage to knock him down, but he won't stay down for long. On the hillside the Imperial captain and Shytbrik take each other on, with the orc proving too strong for the soldier (and too lucky!).
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The humans don't last long after this and start to get taken down by the orcs.

The Imperial musketmen run into the village from their position by the river and despite them being the poorest  fighters of the patrol (D8 henchmen) they start inflicting damage on the orc patrol, wounding the troll and several of the other orcs.

The orcs recover, thanks to a very lucky hand of cards. They rush the musketeers, killing the closest and chasing the other two off.
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The village is left in the hands of the orcs to loot as they see fit!

The rules were great fun and the fantasy specifics (of which I'm not giving anything away!) worked really well. Spellcasters were used in the next battle which featured Skaven vs the Undead.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: BaronVonJ on February 05, 2020, 11:04:23 PM
Excellent. Thanks for the report and input on the rules. Terrain and minis great as usual.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: pixelgeek on February 05, 2020, 11:17:52 PM
Great report. Can't wait to see what the spellcasters do
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: scatterbrains on February 06, 2020, 01:11:57 AM
I'd play any old rules you want on a table like that with minis like those!
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: syrinx0 on February 06, 2020, 03:56:37 AM
A beautiful table.   Skaven in the next battle?  Looking forward to seeing that.   Any support for the crazy war machines?
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on February 06, 2020, 06:41:25 AM
Artillery and war machines have been talked about but given the scale of FfoL could potentially dominate. We'll see, is the best thing to say for now!

What I found with this was that in order to benefit from the orc abilities you had to play aggressively. I also really liked the troll.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Malamute on February 06, 2020, 08:42:04 AM
Great stuff, looking froward to these rules and bringing out my LotR collection again. :)
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: has.been on February 06, 2020, 10:53:03 AM
You could always use powerful items, like Artillery & War machines, as targets/mission objectives.
As in the John Wayne Alamo film, when they sally out to sabotage the Mexican guns.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Silent Invader on February 06, 2020, 11:42:22 AM
Great stuff, looking froward to these rules and bringing out my LotR collection again. :)

I concur, though I need to paint my LOTR collection  8)
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: BaronVonJ on February 06, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
Artillery comes more in on the Big Battle level.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Bloggard on February 06, 2020, 03:44:04 PM
I'd play any old rules you want on a table like that with minis like those!

+1 !!
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: DivisMal on February 06, 2020, 06:29:17 PM
Really interesting...you do have my attention, sir! I’m looking for some time for a good set that transports the pulpy tongue in cheek fantasy of the Old World.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Juan on February 06, 2020, 07:37:16 PM
Great AAR, very useful! The terrain is wonderful.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on February 06, 2020, 07:44:10 PM
Thanks guys. The fantasy rules are in a very early test phase at the moment but I thoroughly enjoyed the games. The FfoL style very much suited a classic Oldhammer type game. The figures often take on their own characters during play. The troll, for example kept getting knocked down and back up again and finished the game having taken out two of the most powerful Imperials. I'm liking the play decisions that the different species offer, whether playing them or against them.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: scatterbrains on February 07, 2020, 02:04:28 AM
Thanks guys. The fantasy rules are in a very early test phase at the moment but I thoroughly enjoyed the games. The FfoL style very much suited a classic Oldhammer type game. The figures often take on their own characters during play. The troll, for example kept getting knocked down and back up again and finished the game having taken out two of the most powerful Imperials. I'm liking the play decisions that the different species offer, whether playing them or against them.

Sounds like fun! Wouldn't want a boring troll!
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on October 23, 2020, 04:55:57 PM
A few photos from a play test of the forthcoming FfoL rule set.

Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 23, 2020, 05:21:47 PM
Great stuff  8)
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on October 23, 2020, 06:48:01 PM
Two rival knights and their retinues set out to slay as many monsters as they could in a land teaming with creatures. The knights never came anywhere near each other and found very different dates. One retinue was wiped out whilst being overwhelmed by monsters who were more intent on killing men than fighting each other. Sir Lesley le Dawson was smashed from his horse by a stone golem and then, having got back to his feet, lost his sword and was devoured by a cockatrice. His men were slowly butchered until none remained. They started well, killing a ravage bear that was skulking under the bridge, but that was their sole victory.

The retinue of Sir Bernard de Clifton fared far better, luck allowing them to engage beasts one at a time. They returned with the heads of four monsters, including an earth elemental that they rolled a 12, 10 and 8 against a 1!

We tried out some new traits that worked well. The beasts took some beating though, unless too rolled 12s and 10s a lot, which I didn't.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: BaronVonJ on October 23, 2020, 08:14:18 PM
Great stuff. Kids always have hot dice.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Silent Invader on October 23, 2020, 08:36:37 PM
Excellent stuff  8)
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Alex Pyrrhus on October 24, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
These rules look like they could be a lot of fun.  Will the traits contained in this version be compatible with “Bigger Battles”?  I realize that “Bigger Battles” is a unit based game as opposed to classic FoL, but BB gave just a sketch of non-human fantasy units.  Will a campaign be included?   Can you give us any idea about the release date?
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on October 25, 2020, 07:13:42 AM
BaronVonJ will be able to give a more detailed response. There will definitely be non-human forces. I've been play testing monsters but we've also play tested lots of fantasy races with a view of getting a bit of character into their playing style to differentiate them. Playing orcs should feel different from undead, or humans, for example.

Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Malamute on October 25, 2020, 07:19:07 AM
Excellent stuff.  The terrain and figures look great.  :-*
Poor Sir Lester Le Dawson  :'(
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: BaronVonJ on October 25, 2020, 01:01:22 PM
Alex Pyrrhus,
Lots of questions to unpack. "Will the traits translate to BB?" Yes they all do. You can alsways bring in stuff from each rule book to others, like Werewolves vs Knights etc.
BB gave just a sketch of non-human units". Partly because I don't want to force MY vision of what troops types are onto other players. How I think orcs play might be different than yours. Are they bloodthirstyy mindless brutes of WH, or cunning nasties like LotR? Partly because we had a lot of ground to cover in BB.
"Will there be a campaign?" - There are scenarios in every book you can link.
"Can you give a release date?" As mentioned elsewhere, There are 3 books in the Fantasy trilogy. The first is just about the mechanics of combat, which is in final edits. The second book is just about adding magic and spells. Book 3 is monsters, dungeon bashing, and creating different classes and fantasy races. They will all be released at the same time. Probably first of next year, as I want this to be awesome.
When it comes to troops, Here was my own game: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=127108.msg1605345#msg1605345
and loads of pics at the blog: http://baronvonj.blogspot.com/2020/09/fistful-of-lead-fantasy-playtest.html
If you Facebook, I would recommend joining the Wiley Games groups as I constantly post updates
Now back to Steve...
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: Elk101 on October 25, 2020, 06:51:44 PM
Just one shot from yesterday's game. My knight getting torn apart by a manticore. The other knight player decided to help when it set upon my archer, only to 'accidentally' kill him outright with his own archer. We all briefly joined forces and took on the massive earth elemental, only for me to be left to fight it in my own after we knocked it down. It smashed my remaining retinue to a pulp. I took 2 monster heads to his 3 and the monster player killed 6 humans.
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: BaronVonJ on October 25, 2020, 07:35:08 PM
A brave soul. Love me s good manticore
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: pixelgeek on October 25, 2020, 08:04:19 PM
I like the art style for the fantasy book. Will the others have art from the same artist?
Title: Re: Fistful of Lead - Fantasy playtest
Post by: BaronVonJ on October 25, 2020, 11:20:32 PM
Yep. Goes back back to my old school 80s roots. Same artist a atales of Horror. The cards are great too.