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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: YPU on February 20, 2020, 10:53:24 AM

Title: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: YPU on February 20, 2020, 10:53:24 AM
Just spotted this little tidbit, it seems like privateer press is doing a new game which for all intents and purposes is warmachine in space.

https://home.privateerpress.com/warcaster/ (https://home.privateerpress.com/warcaster/)

(https://home.privateerpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Top-of-Page-Photo.jpg)


I'll be honest most of the models look somewhat generic to me, far less character than the warmachine factions (even when they just started out) but I do like me a good mecha miniature, and it would seem like this will be a good source of large resin robots going forwards.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Torben on February 20, 2020, 12:25:14 PM
Personally, I like that they're a bit more generic - makes them much more useful for other games ;D
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: YPU on February 20, 2020, 03:45:11 PM
Personally, I like that they're a bit more generic - makes them much more useful for other games ;D

Yeah I'm surprised! PP tend to go for the heavy character flavor and style in their designs, but this infantry looks as generic as you can get.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Daeothar on February 20, 2020, 04:01:52 PM
Still; Warjacks-in-Space are Mecha, so: cool!  :D
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Dentatus on February 20, 2020, 05:58:24 PM
Cool. Lots of potential cross-uses there. So I'll get some figs for sure, but like WarmHordes, I'll most likely never play their game.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: precinctomega on February 20, 2020, 07:24:02 PM
Yeah, I was pretty excited by the news but underwhelmed by their initial offering.  Still, I've been using the existing Warmachine range in SF settings often enough that I reckon they'll give us the good stuff soon enough.

I suppose I'm a little disappointed that it does look like Warmachine in space.  I had hoped they might do a bit more with their Level 7 property, which I think is a bit more of a departure from WMH.  Still, hopeful for the future!
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 20, 2020, 11:27:39 PM
There are supposed to be four three factions at the start so we may yet see one That has a central design theme that links them together better than these preview models do.

I do not know if I would necessarily play the game but the models look nice and could fit into any other game easily enough.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Easy E on February 21, 2020, 02:54:10 PM
I was under the impression that the Warmachine Meta- no longer had much space for WarJacks anymore.

When I heard that i was like....  o_o o_o o_o o_o .....

I look forward to taking a closer look at this range. 
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: n815e on February 21, 2020, 03:42:53 PM
They could have done better than “space-magic” for the background.
It could have been Warmahordes In Space without being literally “Warmahordes... In Space!”
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: YPU on February 21, 2020, 04:42:12 PM
They could have done better than “space-magic” for the background.
It could have been Warmahordes In Space without being literally “Warmahordes... In Space!”

It feels non-comital atm? It is warmahordes in space, but I'm not seeing any of the iconic species or designs from the setting. Moving Khador into a cold war USSR space program style could be interesting for example. As it stands I literally can't tell the 2 factions in the picture apart.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: precinctomega on February 21, 2020, 06:02:10 PM
Yeah, I was rather disappointed with the fluff concept.

But I'm even more disappointed that they're going to Kickstarter for the launch.  Not that I don't understand their reasons.  Mantic does it all the time.  Corvus Belli has just done it.  For the "not small, but not yet medium-sized" wargames enterprise it's the go-to pre-sales platform.  But it does rather mean that little operators like yours truly are chased out of the ability to launch interesting new games when the standards are being set by enterprises with the pockets that can do all the art and design work up front.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: YPU on February 21, 2020, 06:17:13 PM
Yeah, I was rather disappointed with the fluff concept.

But I'm even more disappointed that they're going to Kickstarter for the launch.  Not that I don't understand their reasons.  Mantic does it all the time.  Corvus Belli has just done it.  For the "not small, but not yet medium-sized" wargames enterprise it's the go-to pre-sales platform.  But it does rather mean that little operators like yours truly are chased out of the ability to launch interesting new games when the standards are being set by enterprises with the pockets that can do all the art and design work up front.

Yup, it's understandable but big fish jumping in a pool where once the smaller ones were feeding for once, to stretch the metaphor a bit.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 21, 2020, 07:42:04 PM
It is warmahordes in space

If you watch the videos they have posted they are going out of their way to say that this is not the case. The game is different, there are no equivalent factions in the game and while they have pinched certain terms in the game to make a callback to Warmachine there isn't really a lot similar between the two games.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: precinctomega on February 21, 2020, 07:58:46 PM
One thing I *do* like is the "warcaster" concept.  That is, that the warcaster is in an orbital ship, operating and leading the ground forces remotely, thus embedding the player into the game's setting without the "whoops, I died" weakness at the heart of WMH.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Wachaza on February 22, 2020, 10:11:48 AM
The yellow ones looks like GW Tau. 40k meets Infinity in the design. Not grabbed by it.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 22, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
The yellow ones looks like GW Tau. 40k meets Infinity in the design. Not grabbed by it.

How do they look like Tau?
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Wachaza on February 22, 2020, 07:08:47 PM
How do they look like Tau?

The yellow mech wouldn't be out of place as a Tau battlesuit, even down to the lower legs and feet. The guy on the right armour, long rifle and helmet are very Tau, he's even got a mini Tau drone. Both of the "warcasters'" staffs are very Ethereal.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 22, 2020, 10:50:16 PM
The yellow mech wouldn't be out of place as a Tau battlesuit, even down to the lower legs and feet. The guy on the right armour, long rifle and helmet are very Tau, he's even got a mini Tau drone. Both of the "warcasters'" staffs are very Ethereal.

Maybe in a general sense but big guns, bifurcated feet and big staffs were a thing before the Tau :-)
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: eMills on February 23, 2020, 04:03:35 AM
Maybe in a general sense but big guns, bifurcated feet and big staffs were a thing before the Tau :-)
Yeah, I'm not really seeing Tau here either.  More Infinity than Tau, but really just another take on "Anime".

Q&A:
https://home.privateerpress.com/2020/02/20/warcaster-neo-mechanika-answers-to-your-burning-questions/

Some of the figures look decent from what we can see, but something strikes me as very '90s about them.  The way some of the figures seem to be made to survive single piece casting maybe.

Would be nice to have some better pictures.

Not exactly thrilled about metal for the jacks.  TAGs in Infinity would have been better served in Resin, in my opinion, and the jacks shown so far are about the same size.  Although they do say they will be evaluating material choice as they go.

Kinda wish they had reached out and purchased the rights to VOR instead of trying Warmachine in space.  But then again, given their overall history and relatively recent consumer unfriendly policies, maybe I don't wish that...
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: commissarmoody on February 23, 2020, 07:36:27 AM
I read it more of resion being used for bigger figs. And metals for smaller.
So maybe resion Jack's with metal weapons?
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: YPU on February 23, 2020, 09:51:34 AM
I read it more of resion being used for bigger figs. And metals for smaller.
So maybe resion Jack's with metal weapons?

I am pretty sure that is what they are saying, resin big stuff, metal small stuff. Not sure where they draw the line, but i the mechs aren't big stuff then what is.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: commissarmoody on February 23, 2020, 10:01:51 AM
Right? I mean if it does pick up. Maybe ships, larger warjacks or maybe even maned Mechs. But that's all conjunction at the moment.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Lost Egg on February 23, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
This'll be interesting to keep an eye on and see how well it does but right now it does nothing for me...but then I never got bitten by the WrmaHordes bug.

The minis look ok and have a bit more chunk than those of Infinity; this does look a bit naff with the mech's shield and whatnot. Apart from the colour schemes and the cloaks the two factions look quite similar.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 28, 2020, 01:30:53 AM
New article with some faction background including a picture of a new faction

https://home.privateerpress.com/warcaster/factions/
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Lost Egg on February 28, 2020, 07:13:05 AM
I'm not really seeing three distinct factions from the art work...more three distinct colour schemes.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: commissarmoody on February 28, 2020, 07:32:39 AM
I am thinking maybe different play styles. And when more figs are released. We will see more of a difference.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 28, 2020, 03:29:08 PM
The main thing that bothers me at the moment is that each "faction" appears to have the same playstyle and units. Nothing seems really distinct about them and they don't seem to provide any different gameplay elements.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: Simlasa on February 28, 2020, 07:01:40 PM
Like with other Privateer stuff, I might buy the figures despite not playing the game. It depends on the sculpts and the material. Resin would be a no-go for me. Metal or good hard plastic are what I want.
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: pixelgeek on February 29, 2020, 03:31:09 AM
There will be resin figs. They have mentioned this
Title: Re: Warcaster: Neo-Mechanika or Warmachine in space!
Post by: commissarmoody on February 29, 2020, 04:11:56 AM
Yeah resion and metal.