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Title: Tonkin: Annamese junks?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on April 09, 2020, 12:34:48 AM
Could anyone recommend some sources on Annamese junks of the Tonkin War period?

I have a couple of 1/48 Vietnam "command junk" kits that I'd like to backdate to earlier times. Obviously, the machine guns would have to go, and the superstructure may be too modern, but it would be nice to see some contemporary illustrations from the late 1800s, to reduce the guesswork. Thanks!

And this is very nice, although I'm looking to modify the plastic kits to resemble more civilian-looking prototypes, whatever they may have looked like.

http://www.gringo40s.com/black-flag-boats.html
Title: Re: Tonkin: Annamese junks?
Post by: Shipka on April 09, 2020, 12:47:36 AM
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Junks-Sampans-Yangtze-G-Worcester/dp/1526784904/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?dchild=1&keywords=boats+and+junk+on+the+yangtze&qid=1586389619&s=books&sr=1-2-fkmr1
Title: Re: Tonkin: Annamese junks?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on April 09, 2020, 01:56:12 AM
Thank you! I do have copy of that book somewhere, although I would be surprised to see much coverage beyond the Yangtse. Nevertheless, since the boats came from a shared tradition, there may be some useful information.
Title: Re: Tonkin: Annamese junks?
Post by: Patrice on April 19, 2020, 09:11:15 PM
There are certainly colonial French sources and pictures of the late 19th C. and early 20th C.
Google with words in French: jonque indochine tonkin give some results (although mixed with results about China).

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b59681627.item
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b5968193s.item
https://ehne.fr/colbert/une-jonque-annamite-sur-la-lagune-interieure
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b531722935

"Gallica" is the website of the BNF (French National Library) there are lots of old books and documents in there.
Title: Re: Tonkin: Annamese junks?
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on April 19, 2020, 10:40:21 PM
Merci beaucoup, Patrice!

Ca, c'est la maquette que je voudrais convertir :

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/monogram-pb181-command-junk--265000
Title: Re: Tonkin: Annamese junks?
Post by: Sturmpioneer on May 17, 2020, 01:53:19 AM
Wasn’t there a movie based on a Clavell book set in Hong Kong?  Perhaps a visual in there for you?  Taipan was it?