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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Von Stroheim on April 30, 2020, 02:06:53 AM
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New from National Geographic. Hope it's better than Jamestown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFGCRZJVNsQ
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The trailer certainly looks decent.
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Look like its worth a watch
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Looks pretty good- i popped over to Nat. Geo's site and it's not available in the UK- at least not on the net :(
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I’m sure it’ll pop up on one or other UK streaming platform soon enough. Looks extremely good. Got to be better than Jamestown, which turned out to be more of a soap opera than anything else... ah well.
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I’m sure it’ll pop up on one or other UK streaming platform soon enough. Looks extremely good. Got to be better than Jamestown, which turned out to be more of a soap opera than anything else... ah well.
Hope so, on both counts :)
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Yes, I'd like to see it too.
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Great tip VS - Thanks!
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Don't forget this starts Monday.The first two episodes airs.At least here in the states anyway.
Mark
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Marco, thanks for the reminder.
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The show is based on the Annie Proulx novel of the same name. She's a respected author, best known for "The Shipping News".
I've read "Barkskins", and the series appears to be based only on the first part, as the book goes to the present. I like the book.
So, the source material is sound, but it does not guarantee a good TV series, as the movie version of The Shipping News did not live up to the book (although I still liked it).
I'll watch, because I'm a sucker for any show with an historical setting.
Besides, unlike so many US shows, its set in FRENCH Canada.
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Thanks for the headsup, von Stroheim.
-Michael
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First review I read about it was not high on it.
It said that it was pretty been there done that.
With that said I still intend to watch it and make up
my own mind.
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There's always somebody that doesn't like something.Nothing is 100%.I will judge it myself also.
Mark
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I watched it tonight. It was okay. Not bad but not great either.
I will keep watching it. Do not understand the love affair that
shows have today of filming all the action scenes at night so you
can't figure out what is going on!
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I recorded it but watched parts.I agree with the night time stuff but didn't watch enough to form an opinion yet.
Mark
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I watched the first episode, and then started the second before I got sleepy. Seems okay, looked good anyway, but a bit slow.
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I enjoyed it..first of all it;s the setting is great,I like the actors especially the Investigator..it;s something different fromthe norm.
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Part of it is that Marcia Gay Harden is totally out of place in my opinion. I’m not sure what accent she is meant to have, but she is a turn off.
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I enjoyed it. Very atmospheric. A tad slow, but most of us are too used to films that are 75% action, going by at a clip that can only be achieved though CGI. It takes place in the late 17th century, where things were, well, slower.
I don't know why Marcia Gay Harden offends, even though she has a hard time keeping to a light French accent.
I'm most surprised by how much it deviates from the book. Additional characters and plot lines that I didn't remember
made me worry about my own memory (I'm 62), but googling proved I wasn't getting early onset dementia. The show
is more on multi-ethnic conflict/interaction rather than environmental degradation, which was the book's overarching theme.
That said, such is well portrayed. And deals with a place and time few Americans know anything about. Je me souviens.
But then, I'm the guy who always likes historical dramas.....
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A lot of shows start off slow but pick up steam. :)
Mark
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Filming at night makes it easier to hide all the elements of our modern world that are hard to hide - you really have to work hard to back date almost any where these days. And, yes, I know you can always travel somewhere that will work. But travel costs money, sometimes a LOT of money. So producers will always choose the cheapest workable option. And TV almost always has a smaller budget than a movie (almost).
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I watched the first 2 episodes and liked it.Can't understand Englishmen being there though as if this is set in the 1690's France and England was at war.Of course there were renegades on both sides.
Mark
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I don't think it is set in 1690s. I thought it was set much earlier than that.
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It says at the beginning late 1600's.I don't know if the destroyed at the beginning was suppose to be Lachine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lachine_massacre
Mark
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Marco,
You are right. I missed that.
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I'm looking forward to watching it. I am a sucker for historical dramas, too. Heck, I made it through and enjoyed "Frontier," and that was pretty Hollywood. lol
Mike Demana
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I've tried to get through Frontier and I'm only through the second episode of season 2.I like the time period and Jason Momora but it just doesn't seem realistic just like Knightfall. I guess you said it best,just "too Hollywood".
Mark
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I enjoyed parts of Frontier but other parts were simply ridiculous.
They could go hundreds of miles in no time. Even cross the Atlantic
in days. The combat often was impossible. The heroes would attack a
large group of Redcoats and kill them all as the redcoats just stood around
waiting to be killed. Once the redcoats were attacked but even though they
had loaded guns never fired a shot as the heroes chopped them to pieces.
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Anybody watch episodes 3 & 4 yet?
Mark
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The combat scenes in Frontier were definitely ridiculous. For better or worse (mostly worse), I am afraid that Hollywood has been influenced by video games combat. One guy takes on the whole world and is successful. The most over-the-top scene was when Jason Momoa pulls the guys spinal column out of his back and holds it up. Really???
That said, I like the focus on Hudson's Bay - doesn't get a lot of attention from History or the wargaming world...
Mike Demana
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I like the focus on Hudson's Bay also but the show felt like something from the late 60's-70's.The characters had no depth to them.They were like 2-D instead of 3-D.I liked Momora better in Stargate Atlantis which you know is sci-fi going in and even SEE which is far from a great show but Momora was better in that.
Mark
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Is it me? I cant find it.
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Is it me? I cant find it.
It's not on in the UK yet, Roger. I'm sure it will appear on one of the UK streaming services or platforms sooner or later.
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Thanks Captain Blood.
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Watched episode 3 last night.Pretty good.
Mark
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Have watch 6 episodes and have enjoyed it with 2 more to go.Hope it's renewed.David Thewlis has had the most interesting character and plays it very well.
Mark
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Just saw the episode with the skirmish with the Iroquois.
I liked it. Could stand a bit more action but it still is something
I look forward to watching. Still hate all the night scenes to
difficult to see.
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I agree with the night scenes and more action but it is good.
Mark
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No bad, although I would have preferred if each "nation" speaks in its language. It is weird to watch supposed French speaking English. But that is a minor point. Overall it is a good show.
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It's not on in the UK yet, Roger. I'm sure it will appear on one of the UK streaming services or platforms sooner or later.
On reflection, I’ve just realised that National Geographic channel is part of the Disney empire, and that channel’s content is available in the UK via the recently launched Disney+ streaming service. I would guess therefore, that you can watch Barkskins in the UK now, if you’re prepared to pay your tribute to the Empire of the Mouse.
Unfortunately though, it’s very difficult to see exactly what content is available on the platform until you have actually signed up ::)
However, noting that they offer a 7 day free trial, I may well wait until all the episodes of this particular series have been released, then hop on there and try to binge watch the lot for free ;)
It’s only 5.99 a month or 60 quid for the year to be fair, but given that I already have Netflix, Amazon Prime and Sky Go, I don’t really want or need yet another streaming service. Although I would quite like to watch The Mandalorian which everyone says is very good. But apart from that, I’m not that interested in Disney’s massive back catalogue of family fun...
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On reflection, I’ve just realised that National Geographic channel is part of the Disney empire, and that channel’s content is available in the UK via the recently launched Disney+ streaming service. I would guess therefore, that you can watch Barkskins in the UK now, if you’re prepared to pay your tribute to the Empire of the Mouse.
Unfortunately though, it’s very difficult to see exactly what content is available on the platform until you have actually signed up ::)
However, noting that they offer a 7 day free trial, I may well wait until all the episodes of this particular series have been released, then hop on there and try to binge watch the lot for free ;)
It’s only 5.99 a month or 60 quid for the year to be fair, but given that I already have Netflix, Amazon Prime and Sky Go, I don’t really want or need yet another streaming service. Although I would quite like to watch The Mandalorian which everyone says is very good. But apart from that, I’m not that interested in Disney’s massive back catalogue of family fun...
I have just read that if the content is considered too mature, it is not put onto Disney+. So, there is apparently no guarantee there.
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Last 2 episodes tonight. :'( lol
Mark
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Just watched them.
The show ended strong. Finally they seemed to get the message and the night scenes were actually watchable.
Nice action and a good set up for season two. Hope there will be one.
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I didn't watch them tonight but will enjoy watching later in the week.
Mark
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good ending the the season...
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Hi, I have just finished Barkskins and I have to say I really enjoyed it. It was slow to start and the accent thing (I felt) was a wee bit muddled but overall it had a good feel about it and David Thewlis is always worth watching so a very strong 7 out of 10.
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I'm going to lay back and look at the last 2 episodes tonight.
Mark
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For those of us in the UK it premiers 4th August on National Geographic (on Sky etc)
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For those of us in the UK it premiers 4th August on National Geographic (on Sky etc)
Excellent - thank you Radar.
In the UK, National Geographic is now a channel within the new Disney+ streaming platform. Are you saying it will be on Sky as well? Not sure Sky carries NG any more since Disney took it into its stable of media brands? Thanks :)
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Excellent - thank you Radar.
In the UK, National Geographic is now a channel within the new Disney+ streaming platform. Are you saying it will be on Sky as well? Not sure Sky carries NG any more since Disney took it into its stable of media brands? Thanks :)
Damn it! I got rid of Sky and Amazon...... :(
Hopefully it may one day hit Netflix ???
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Excellent - thank you Radar.
In the UK, National Geographic is now a channel within the new Disney+ streaming platform. Are you saying it will be on Sky as well? Not sure Sky carries NG any more since Disney took it into its stable of media brands? Thanks :)
NAT Geo HD is still on Sky channel 129
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NAT Geo HD is still on Sky channel 129
It's a bit of a shame that I got rid of Sky when I did but I've got the (very strange) test series to watch on NowTV so I'll live for the time being (that would be cricket to the rest of the world) :)
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It's available on Hulu here in the States.
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Just a reminder- the first two episodes on National Geographic UK this Tuesday 4th August .
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Just a reminder- the first two episodes on National Geographic UK this Tuesday 4th August .
Is Nat. Geo, free in the UK?
I've just looked at their terms of service and whilst not explicitly saying their is a charge they do say "they reserve the right to make a surcharge"!
(I did notice that they are owned by Fox!)
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Just a reminder- the first two episodes on National Geographic UK this Tuesday 4th August .
Thanks for the reminder. I watched the first two episodes. Thought it was great - beautiful to look at, very atmospheric and well acted. Loved the sense of the otherworldly that pervaded the whole thing. It's more like a thriller than a period piece, although the period detail felt well done to me. A LOT better than Jamestown, and much more interesting.
David Thewlis has made a career out of playing oddballs and mavericks, and he excelled himself in this. Very interested to see where it goes from here.
The only drawback is, in these days of streaming I'm so used to watching entire series on demand and at my leisure in two or three sittings, it's positively frustrating to have to wait a whole week for the next episode(s).
Ah, first world problems... ;)
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I hope we get a second season.I thought it was very good.
Mark
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I thought I was going to have to miss the first 2 episodes on Monday, as I hadn't quite caught up with which channels I had gained by adding BT TV into the deal when getting fibre broadband after increasing exasperation at the slow rate of our broadband. So, it was only a few hours before it started that I discovered we had National Geographic channel. Watched the first two and thoroughly enjoyed them, great cast and superb settings and a potential source for some nice ideas for skirmish games.
I very much liked the Hudson's Bay Company man's character, and his Indian chum is rather "cool" - I was trying to figure out where I knew him from throughout most of the first episode, then I twigged it, he plays Pierce Brosnan's charecter's younger version's adoptive Comanche father in "The Son", which is just great 8)
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I've just watched the first episode, I quite enjoyed it, I'll be watching more.
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I hope we get a second season.I thought it was very good.
Mark
Agreed. The final two episodes just aired on National Geographic here in the UK. Quite a cliffhanger ending. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Hope there will be another season, although apparently they haven’t renewed it yet, so it may not happen :?
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I watched it. Enjoyed it, but was frustrated with the end of the series. If left too much hanging. It seemed like the series ended an episode or two early.
They might have told the audience at some point that a Barkskin was another name for a tree feller, a lumberjack.
The language and accent shifting was a little odd as well.
But it is rare to see any story that early set in the Americas and rare to see they French as the victims of the British aggression (well the Hudson Bay company).
The gun fights were cool, shoot rifle, drop it, charge with blade, Pistol is a save roll. I don't remember seeing anyone reloading.
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No one has in the history of TV ever had to reload anything. :D
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No one ever reloaded in TV.....Good one Inkpaduta.
Especially the cowboy 24 shot 6-shooter. Four in one blanks loaded into a six shot revolver, allowed more bang for the buck.
In Barkskins I did like the single Saving roll that the characters all had with the pistol. Not having a pistol was like beaming down in a red shirt.
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My other favorite is when they do run out of bullets rather than reload they throw their gun at their opponent.
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Maybe that is French for "Here you load it!"
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I like that!
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Some french and Puritan figures kickstarter I've seen that would probably fit:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313980061/flint-and-feather-contact
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Does anyone know if there will be a season 2 of this series? I really enjoyed it.
Mark
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Apparently NG introduced it as an intended ongoing series so in theory there should be.
But according to imdb none of the key stars are currently working on a series 2 (they are mostly listed working on other projects though) so at least this year it seems unlikely.
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That's disappointing. :(
Mark
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The village for the show was put up for sale. That's not a good sign. :-[
Mark