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Title: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 18, 2020, 10:54:20 AM
I've been sticking my 1980s British Army on the blog:

http://www.jemimafawr.co.uk/2020/05/18/active-edge-building-a-cold-war-baor-battlegroup/

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2844/2Weetn.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3399/64KT5h.jpg)

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Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Shahbahraz on May 18, 2020, 02:22:22 PM
Love it. I want one (BAOR Battlegroup) now. The Chieftain is such an iconic piece of kit if you were around in the UK in the 60s-80s.
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 18, 2020, 03:41:53 PM
Love it. I want one (BAOR Battlegroup) now. The Chieftain is such an iconic piece of kit if you were around in the UK in the 60s-80s.
Cheers!  I think it was the Cent AVRE and Ferrets that made me want it...  :D
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 18, 2020, 03:44:27 PM
Love it. I want one (BAOR Battlegroup) now. The Chieftain is such an iconic piece of kit if you were around in the UK in the 60s-80s.
And I've no idea what I'm going to do with the Chieftain AVLB.  It spans about five times more width than my widest model river and in groundscale terms, the bridge is about 600m long!  lol
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: SABOT on May 18, 2020, 05:29:17 PM
Terrific work to warm me old Tankie heart! 😬👍👍👍
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 18, 2020, 07:59:33 PM
Terrific work to warm me old Tankie heart! 😬👍👍👍
Bugger, I was hoping you'd point out the mistakes and I could take notes...  :D ;)
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: SABOT on May 18, 2020, 08:59:41 PM
Not much wrong with those mate .....  the inside of the Commanders Hatch was green not white .... apart from that they look spot on to me. ( no Commanders MG nor spotlight fitted either) .
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: DCRBrown on May 19, 2020, 08:55:34 AM
M,

Not sure how common this was but our LI sections had two GPMGs, around this time.

DB
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: SJWi on May 19, 2020, 10:32:33 AM
Very nice. I am currently building a 15mm BAOR army but as well as classic camo decided to have a go at hand-painting the “Berlin Brigade” urban scheme. I’m now just waiting to get my hands on my copy of PSC’s new “Battlegroup NORTHAG” rules before buying more hardware.
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 20, 2020, 02:28:38 PM
Cheers chaps!

Sabot, I think the 'white hatch-interior' must be a (silver) spotlight seen from a funny angle, as mine don't have any open hatches (they're cast with closed hatches).

Re the spotlight and commander's MG; that's interesting, because there are lots of photos with both!  :D  I guess the spotlight went out as TOGS came in?  In any case, I've hedged my bets because my other squadron (not photographed) doesn't have MGs fitted. :D

Cheers Dave; Is that while still using SLRs?  I suppose a lot of GPMGs got freed up when the regulars got L86 LSWs.  Perhaps a bit like WW2 Italy, when the 78th Div allocated an extra Bren per section when one of its brigades was disbanded?  On a similar vein, a good mate of mine (ex-41 RM Cdo) told me that when they embarked for the Falklands, the armouries were opened up and they took everything they could - so much for TO&Es!  Sections ended up with two GPMGs AND LMG!  They also binned CG 84 at San Carlos and instead carried more MILAN firing-posts and ammo.

SJWi, ooo, good luck... I've always loved the idea of doing a Berlin force (mainly due to the chance to field FV432/30) and having that lovely camouflage, but like WW2 Caunter camo, it looks like it'd be too much like hard work.
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: SABOT on May 21, 2020, 01:13:05 AM
Roger that .... I thought you hadn’t got the spotlight fitted .... mistook for hatch - got it. In which case we always had the IR filter fitted to the spotlight so needs to be dark red/black. 👍
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 21, 2020, 02:08:19 AM
Roger that .... I thought you hadn’t got the spotlight fitted .... mistook for hatch - got it. In which case we always had the IR filter fitted to the spotlight so needs to be dark red/black. 👍
Sod a dog... Someone else told me that they were natural light and the big bugger in the box on the side was the IR one. 
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: SABOT on May 21, 2020, 02:13:34 AM
Nah .... both have an IR filter.

The main searchlight opens up with the IR filter automatically covering the White Light lens ( obvious tactical consideration) . Selecting white light moves the IR filter mechanically to reveal the white light which produces one million candlepower on normal power and on boost (max ten seconds only) increases to million and a half.

The Commanders spotlight is more basic. The IR filter fits over the top of the white light lens and has to be uncoupled by hand to reveal white light. Nowhere near as impressive and we very rarely used them. Linked to follow the same elevation as the Commanders gpmg.
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 21, 2020, 11:44:29 AM
Excellent stuff!  Ta!  :D
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: FifteensAway on May 22, 2020, 05:02:18 AM
Can you tell us how you do your photography, please? 

Your work and the photos of it make a mockery of those who say magazines need to feature 28 mm and larger because the 'smaller' scales just don't photograph well.  15 mm baby!   lol
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Etranger on May 22, 2020, 06:31:34 AM
Big Jem has minions for that sort of thing!  :o
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 22, 2020, 04:54:18 PM
Can you tell us how you do your photography, please? 

Your work and the photos of it make a mockery of those who say magazines need to feature 28 mm and larger because the 'smaller' scales just don't photograph well.  15 mm baby!   lol
I point my phone at them and press the camera button. :)

If you want technical details, it's a black-coloured one.   :D

On a serious note, I used to use 'proper' cameras, but never really had a clue how they worked and it was more accident than design.  Then about five years ago I got a Nokia Windows phone which had a great camera and I was finally able to use my phone to take reasonably good pictures of models and games.  At Christmas the wife (a total tech-geek and gadget freak, who like all wives always wants the latest and best, when I'll happily keep using phones/cars/houses until they terminally break down, much to her enduring fury) insisted that I have a new phone, as she could no longer stand the embarrassment (??????). 

Anyway, I got a Samsung phone, the same as hers and the camera is absolutely superb and far better for taking photos of games in our dark and gloomy club (compare the recent game on my blog to the previous one - the contrast is astonishing):

Old Windows Phone - great in good light, but struggled in our dark clubroom, where tables are irregularly lit by spotlights:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1015/z3K4XZ.jpg)

New Samsung phone, exactly the same lighting:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6240/gGc2aR.jpg)

Aside from the quality of the camera, the BEST thing about the phone is that the phone-salesman was an ex-cadet (a lad I took to Normandy on one of my battlefield tours) and he gave me the best possible deal, so I'm paying £15 less per month than my 'early-adopter' wife (again, much to her enduring fury)...  lol

I usually try to take them outside on a sunny day, though the best days are actually when there's a thin layer of cloud, so the light is bright but diffuse.  I've got a circular cafe-type table in the garden, so I just put my terrain cloth over that, a few trees and buildings to mask the background wall and set up the troops, while fending off the jackapoo mentalist, who invariably wants to do what I'm doing or alternatively run round the garden with a base of troops or a tank... Or my wife's rather expensive hat...

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4765/x83UX9.jpg)
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 22, 2020, 09:34:02 PM
Big Jem has minions for that sort of thing!  :o
I had to let the minions go for the sake of my sanity, sadly.  :'(
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: SABOT on May 22, 2020, 11:25:26 PM
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: FifteensAway on May 23, 2020, 01:35:34 AM
"I point my phone at them and press the camera button. :)

If you want technical details, it's a black-coloured one.   :D"

 lol lol  Brilliant repost.

And thank you for the more detailed information as well. 
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 23, 2020, 02:36:08 AM
"I point my phone at them and press the camera button. :)

If you want technical details, it's a black-coloured one.   :D"

 lol lol  Brilliant repost.

And thank you for the more detailed information as well.
That really is the depth of my technical knowledge.  :-I

I'm the same with cars.  The missus will be taking them for test-drives, asking technical questions and exploring all the performance options.  I'll be looking to see how many terrain boards I can fit in the boot.  She'll ask me if I like some model I've never heard of and gets infuriated when I ask her what colour it is or if I can have a tank or aeroplane question instead.
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: commissarmoody on May 24, 2020, 07:01:48 AM
I think your Jackapoo and my Multipoo have the same powers. I regularly have to chase her about the house, while she absconds with things she should not be able to steal.
Title: Re: 15mm BAOR Battlegroup 1984
Post by: Jemima Fawr on May 24, 2020, 05:51:06 PM
I think your Jackapoo and my Multipoo have the same powers. I regularly have to chase her about the house, while she absconds with things she should not be able to steal.
Indeed... Today 'The Little Bastard', as she is commonly known, made off with a base of freshly-painted Napoleonic Russian horse artillery as I was distracted, photographing another unit.  >:(