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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: killshot on July 01, 2020, 09:22:31 PM

Title: Late Roman Army (Command figures added)
Post by: killshot on July 01, 2020, 09:22:31 PM
Found a few packs of Black Tree Design (EOE Orbis) during a clean out and had to get them painted up. The black and red shields are from LBMS and the blue and red are hand painted. 

(https://i.imgur.com/2GTFcCD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kuS34Ra.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WrjqGVl.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: wmyers on July 02, 2020, 03:35:46 PM
They look very good!

It’s hard to tell the painted shields from the decals in the pictures.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Bloggard on July 04, 2020, 11:00:31 AM
fantastic work on the blue shields - I prefer them to the black and reds!
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Orctrader on July 04, 2020, 07:40:22 PM
They are very good.   :)
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on July 04, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
Oh yes, I was gonna say that too - really hard to tell the decals and freehands apart. very, very nice job.  Nice sculpts too. I'm a big fan of Black Tree Design's figures.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Will Bailie on July 05, 2020, 04:41:24 AM
Those look fantastic, especially the hand painted shields!  I once tried painting that pattern, and could never get that stupid chicken to look the same on two different shield.  Great work!
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Atheling on July 05, 2020, 07:30:04 AM
Excellent work matey  :-*

The painted shields look brill  8) They must have been very satisfying to paint :)
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: killshot on July 05, 2020, 10:57:40 PM
Thanks everyone, I was very happy with the hand painted shields.  I usually can’t them to look that consistent and I honestly contribute it to buying decent brushes for a change.  I normally go with value packs and I will never do that again.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Atheling on July 06, 2020, 09:47:18 AM
I honestly contribute it to buying decent brushes for a change.  I normally go with value packs and I will never do that again.

Good brushes make all the difference. What are you using?
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Captain Blood on July 06, 2020, 11:00:44 AM
Very tidy work. Great freehand on the shields - kudos!
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: killshot on July 06, 2020, 01:24:48 PM
Good brushes make all the difference. What are you using?

I switched from the Army Painter to Citadel Brushes. 
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Atheling on July 06, 2020, 02:20:39 PM
I switched from the Army Painter to Citadel Brushes.

Ta. I use Rosemary brushes as they're a reasonable price over here. Mainly Series 33. I do have a smattering of W&N brushes that have lasted for over a decade!  :o though not all have been that long lived.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: killshot on July 06, 2020, 07:02:55 PM
Ta. I use Rosemary brushes as they're a reasonable price over here. Mainly Series 33. I do have a smattering of W&N brushes that have lasted for over a decade!  :o though not all have been that long lived.

Thanks for the recommend, I’ll check them out when I’m ready to purchase more brushes.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: bluewillow on July 06, 2020, 09:35:48 PM
A big fan of BTD late Roman infantry
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Atheling on July 06, 2020, 10:03:54 PM
A big fan of BTD late Roman infantry

Me too Matt- I'm not a big fan of wondering if i will ever see the package arrive though. If they got it together I would be ordering large quantities of stuff  ;) :)
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Battle Brush Sigur on July 07, 2020, 12:38:55 AM
I worked with several of BTD's ranges (Fantasy [the old Harlequin ranges IIRC?], Romans, Zulus, Vikings, WW2 Germans, Americans and Russians, WW1 French, ... ), not a single one was any less than really, really nice. Their WW2 Russians are my favourites. Such a shame that ordering from them is a bit of an adventure. I never had much trouble with it myself (only ordered a handful of times since 2014 though I have to admit), but others have told horror stories. I tend to defend BTD, mainly based on them seeming to be a small family run business and them having all these amazing ranges, but it's getting harder and harder.

Sorry for derailing the thread a bit there. Anyway, Rosemary is what many of the cool kids seem to use now after quite uneven quality in W&N brushes the past years. I'm basically using value packs / department store brushes size 2 and up and one good quality size 1 W&N Series 7 (long bristles). Took me decades to finally give in and go for W&N brushes: They are nice though. I tried Army Painter brushes a long time ago. They seemed to work decently, but I'm not a huge fan of AP on the whole, and I'm NOT a fan of brush ranges not using the numbers system and rather than that go for their own made-up classifications. GW brushes seem to be decent. Haven't used one in a long time, but for the past 15 years or so I haven't heard bad things about them. Once I run out of W&N brushes I'll see if I give those Rosemary ones a try. A while ago I heard from some painters that all the higher quality sable brushes get their bristles from the same farms and as demand went up a lot over the past years they started selling lower quality fur. Can't confirm that though because a.) I'm not a Russian sable farmer, and b.) I've had good W&N brushes and less good ones. The overwhelming majority has been fine.

About freehanding shield designs - doing the same design on a large (28mm) shield probably is the hardest thing to do I suppose. Especially so symetric designs. So eagles basically. :D Dark colours help, and so does "highlighting". Painting the design with a darker colour and then painting the lighter colour within that shape makes the design look a bit smoother and also allows for surprisingly much 'fixing' to get shapes even and so on. Basically just as seen in the pictures above. ;) So yeah, I'd say the way you painted these shields there is a prime example for how it's done.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: killshot on July 07, 2020, 02:29:52 AM
No problem with me discussing the ins-and-outs of all aspects of the BTD figures.  These Late Romans have been my favorite since I saw them on David Imrie’s site years and years ago.  I had to wait a few weeks to receive  these figures when I ordered them, but I was prepared to wait longer.

I did some research on brushes a while ago and saw the rosemary brand on Amazon and almost went with them but decided at the last minute to try my FLGS where I picked up the GW brush.  GW has an artificer range which I was told are W&N repacked.  🤷🏼‍♂️

You nailed how I did the eagle designs, dark red and then highlighted up with the brighter red.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: bluewillow on July 07, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
True, another nervous buyer, never have received my chariots....almost two years....never have bought again.

I do have two very large imperial Roman and late Roman armies though
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: wmyers on July 07, 2020, 06:17:17 PM
True, another nervous buyer, never have received my chariots....almost two years....never have bought again.

I do have two very large imperial Roman and late Roman armies though

You have to keep writing BTD/EOE Orbis!

I mean like daily.  Literally!

Write to both John in the USA and Vaughn in the UK. Use both emails for the same message so they see the other is getting the message.

I know, you should not have to do that.

You should also not be out your order.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Redmist1122 on July 16, 2020, 03:09:56 AM
Me too Matt- I'm not a big fan of wondering if i will ever see the package arrive though. If they got it together I would be ordering large quantities of stuff  ;) :)

I'm with you on the delivery...one has to wonder if its the same guy on both sides of the pond.  Anyways, great looking figures , and love the shield designs too!
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Atheling on July 16, 2020, 10:10:23 AM
I'm with you on the delivery...one has to wonder if its the same guy on both sides of the pond.

sorry to go Ot again, but that's exactly what I've been trying to work out. I may order one pack and find out if the UK sector of the business is working more efficiently (or at all!) :)
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: vodkafan on July 16, 2020, 10:13:59 AM
sorry to go Ot again, but that's exactly what I've been trying to work out. I may order one pack and find out if the UK sector of the business is working more efficiently (or at all!) :)

I have sent off two orders to Black Tree a week apart, first one came in 4 days, the second should arrive today, I got a notification it's on the way.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: Atheling on July 16, 2020, 10:19:13 AM
I have sent off two orders to Black Tree a week apart, first one came in 4 days, the second should arrive today, I got a notification it's on the way.

I've just popped an email to them asking when I could expect to get the items shipped. If I get a reply soon I'm make a small order to start off with.

Again, sorry to go OT Killshot :)

Back to the Late Romans methinks.
Title: Re: Black Tree Design Late Romans
Post by: killshot on October 12, 2020, 09:52:29 PM
Finished up the Crusader Miniatures Late Roman archers as part of a commission.  These figures paint up extremely well IMO. 

(https://i.imgur.com/qXFdj61.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/V9BJsHE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4CSRnOT.jpg)
Title: Re: Late Roman army (Crusader Miniatures Archers added)
Post by: SJWi on October 13, 2020, 04:38:01 AM
Very nice. Most Late Romans are modelled clean shaven so I may buy these Crusader figures to add to my 5th century Romano-British army. They look more....well..."Northern"!

Thanks   
Title: Re: Late Roman army (Crusader Miniatures Archers added)
Post by: rumacara on October 13, 2020, 07:03:30 PM
Very nice romans. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Late Roman army (Crusader Miniatures Archers added)
Post by: Atheling on October 13, 2020, 07:39:16 PM
Lovely mate  :-*
Title: Re: Late Roman army (Crusader Miniatures Archers added)
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on October 13, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Very nice to see Crusader getting some exposure. Fine job on them. :)
Title: Re: Late Roman army (Crusader Miniatures Archers added)
Post by: killshot on November 02, 2020, 05:02:44 PM
A  couple more units completed:

Cataphracts from Footsore

(https://i.imgur.com/yNgQlI2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wk9eGBH.jpg)

And staff slingers from Crusader Miniatures

(https://i.imgur.com/WEW3vtG.jpg)
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Cataphracts and Staff Slingers added)
Post by: Atheling on November 02, 2020, 06:00:10 PM
Nice work matey  :-*
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Cataphracts and Staff Slingers added)
Post by: killshot on November 02, 2020, 06:56:55 PM
Nice work matey  :-*

Thank you!  Painting such great figures definitely helps!
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Cataphracts and Staff Slingers added)
Post by: Ray Rivers on November 02, 2020, 07:01:55 PM
Very nice thread with some awesome painting!

Those Cataphracts are just amazing!  :-*
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Cataphracts and Staff Slingers added)
Post by: bluewillow on November 05, 2020, 09:44:57 PM
Fabulous work on those,

I must pick up some Footsore cataphracti they look great.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Cataphracts and Staff Slingers added)
Post by: killshot on November 06, 2020, 12:32:51 AM
Fabulous work on those,

I must pick up some Footsore cataphracti they look great.

Cheers
Matt

Thank you! The Footsore figures are terrific and paint up extremely well.

Very nice thread with some awesome painting!

Those Cataphracts are just amazing!  :-*

Thank you!
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Cataphracts and Staff Slingers added)
Post by: killshot on November 06, 2020, 10:00:18 PM
Footsore command figures to round out this commission.  I love this pack of figures.

(https://i.imgur.com/kqZXrV6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jOwHcFq.jpg)
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Command figures added)
Post by: bluewillow on November 06, 2020, 10:13:20 PM
He is one of my favourite sculpts they have done for the dark ages
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Command figures added)
Post by: Burnin Coal on November 07, 2020, 09:26:36 PM
Very nice indeed
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Command figures added)
Post by: Ragnar on November 08, 2020, 08:16:34 AM
Lovely stuff, Killshot.
Title: Re: Late Roman Army (Command figures added)
Post by: Atheling on November 08, 2020, 08:42:16 AM
Splendid additions mate  :-*