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Title: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on September 16, 2020, 10:37:07 PM
Anyone have the 411 on the Victrix Republican Roman Legion box I and II.  I ordered some from a US distributor but have not seen them for several weeks.  They say they are on back order. 

When I go to Victrix's website, sure enough they were also Out-of-Stock.  It looks like the box in chain mail is back available, but not the pectoral armor.  I ordered some of both.

Was this a COVID delay or they were just that popular with all these Roman rule sets coming out recently?  Any idea when they will be back and shipping to the distributors again? 
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Wiegraf on September 17, 2020, 01:36:01 AM
Romans are EXTREMELY popular lately with the coming of games like Infamy, Infamy. Now while I think usually Imperial Romans are all the rage, Republicans also becoming more and more popular with games like CLASH out. I believe there is a higher demand for them than there was say a couple years ago, and it is likely Victrix may with cOVID be struggling to keep up with demand.

Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Codsticker on September 17, 2020, 03:49:46 AM
It could get worse: Studio Tomahawk will soon release Saga: Age of Hannibal .
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on September 17, 2020, 03:48:33 PM
Plus, Osprey will have Wars of the Republic coming out next year as well.

That's why I wanted some Republican Romans, to get ahead of the curve for all these rulesets! I all ready own Clash of Spears.
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Atheling on September 17, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
Plus, Osprey will have Wars of the Republic coming out next year as well.

That's why I wanted some Republican Romans, to get ahead of the curve for all these rulesets! I all ready own Clash of Spears.

Republican Romans look so damn good too  8)
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Codsticker on September 18, 2020, 05:00:19 AM
Punic wars allows (requires? :D) you to collect so many different types of troops; I've been awfully tempted by them.
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Atheling on September 18, 2020, 09:40:52 AM
Punic wars allows (requires? :D) you to collect so many different types of troops; I've been awfully tempted by them.

Absolutely a requisite!  :D ;D
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Corso on September 18, 2020, 12:10:54 PM
Very true  :D  8)

I have done a punic army, but there are many more units I wish to add lol

The Victrix kits mentioned are quite popular but I guess the reason for them being out of stock is due to covid. I'm waiting for the Early Imperial Roman cavalry to get back in stock to order some.
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Ray Rivers on September 18, 2020, 12:33:45 PM
Punic wars allows (requires? :D) you to collect so many different types of troops; I've been awfully tempted by them.

Indeed.

Not only do you have a very diverse amount of troop types, but the battles are far more balanced. Once you get into the Empire really good opponents are much harder to find.

I too am a big Republican Roman enthusiast and would recommend that period to anyone who wants to do Ancients and Romans specifically.
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on November 13, 2020, 06:39:02 PM
They are back in stock for both boxes again at Victrix.  They are still hit and miss sometimes though.   

I got them ordered, so I hope my US Distributor can get them to me this time!
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: sgzleada71 on November 14, 2020, 06:17:35 AM
I like the Agema Republican Romans a bit better.   The Victrix models are perhaps a tad superior in their molding but very static in their poses.   The  Agema ones seem a little more versatile.  I like having the Agema Triari kneeling  too. 
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on November 16, 2020, 04:12:31 PM
Drat, the box with the chestplates is still hard to get hold of.  That is the pone I really wanted. 
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on December 30, 2020, 06:37:36 PM
Due to a mix-up on my part, I got two sets of the Pectoral Armored Romans, when I wanted 1 of Pectoral armor and 1 with Hamata.  The Pectoral armor I was going to use for Hastati, while Hamata was going to be for Principes and Triarri. 

Since I only have Pectoral armor, I am curious what people's thoughts are about building Principes and Triarri from the Pectoral armored models.  Their enhanced status could be show by using the the Corinthian style helmets exclusively, and I have enough Centurion parts to deck out each of the Triarri with fancy helmets.  This is supposed to be an early Triplex Acies/Great Samnite War era Roman army, so it might work with less Hamata..... 

Should I bite the bullet and just order the Hamata (which has been tough for me to get a US Distributor to get to me) or should I make do with what I have and make my second and third liners with the Pectoral armor?  Thoughts?   
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: wmyers on December 31, 2020, 04:47:45 AM
This is where you have the opportunity to order 2 sets of the chain mail figures.

Then you’d have to get 4 boxes of the Italian allies. 

Then to have opponents to match your Romans ...

Leading to a second full time job. . .

Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: guitarheroandy on December 31, 2020, 12:12:35 PM
Due to a mix-up on my part, I got two sets of the Pectoral Armored Romans, when I wanted 1 of Pectoral armor and 1 with Hamata.  The Pectoral armor I was going to use for Hastati, while Hamata was going to be for Principes and Triarri. 

Since I only have Pectoral armor, I am curious what people's thoughts are about building Principes and Triarri from the Pectoral armored models.  Their enhanced status could be show by using the the Corinthian style helmets exclusively, and I have enough Centurion parts to deck out each of the Triarri with fancy helmets.  This is supposed to be an early Triplex Acies/Great Samnite War era Roman army, so it might work with less Hamata..... 

Should I bite the bullet and just order the Hamata (which has been tough for me to get a US Distributor to get to me) or should I make do with what I have and make my second and third liners with the Pectoral armor?  Thoughts?

For what it's worth, I am also doing a Samnite Wars Republican Roman force and my Triarii are a mix of pectoral wearing Victrix Roman and Italian allied models, as I don't feel that mail would have been very widespread at all amongst the Romans in the 4th Century BC. I did buy a couple of mail-wearing sprues off EBAY to enable me to mix some models in and out for slightly later Republican Roman armies... I've even outfitted my very early Triarii (mid - late 4th century BC) with hoplite shields based on some things I've read about the likely timescale for the scutum becoming the exclusive Roman shield, but I'm planning on also painting enough with scutum to give me options for third century BC Roman forces. I'm also using some Victix velites bodies as early hastati to help differentiate them from the Principes, all of whom wear pectoral armour.
So as to what you should do, I guess it all depends on what you feel best represents the look of a Samnite Wars era Roman force...
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on December 31, 2020, 02:37:41 PM
For what it's worth, I am also doing a Samnite Wars Republican Roman force and my Triarii are a mix of pectoral wearing Victrix Roman and Italian allied models, as I don't feel that mail would have been very widespread at all amongst the Romans in the 4th Century BC. I did buy a couple of mail-wearing sprues off EBAY to enable me to mix some models in and out for slightly later Republican Roman armies... I've even outfitted my very early Triarii (mid - late 4th century BC) with hoplite shields based on some things I've read about the likely timescale for the scutum becoming the exclusive Roman shield, but I'm planning on also painting enough with scutum to give me options for third century BC Roman forces. I'm also using some Victix velites bodies as early hastati to help differentiate them from the Principes, all of whom wear pectoral armour.
So as to what you should do, I guess it all depends on what you feel best represents the look of a Samnite Wars era Roman force...

Thanks for your thoughts and opinions. 

Good idea about using some Hoplite shields.

Then, they could be used as even "earlier" Romans when Rome may or may not have used a Phalanx formation too.  I am more interested in some of these Conquest of Italy type situations than Later Republic stuff. 
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: guitarheroandy on December 31, 2020, 06:15:34 PM
Thanks for your thoughts and opinions. 

Good idea about using some Hoplite shields.

Then, they could be used as even "earlier" Romans when Rome may or may not have used a Phalanx formation too.  I am more interested in some of these Conquest of Italy type situations than Later Republic stuff.

If the conquest of Italy period is of interest, have you seen Ancient Warfare Issue XIV-2? It has some really interesting articles pertaining to the rise of the manipular legion. Well worth a look!
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on January 22, 2021, 04:04:40 PM
Well, all this belly-aching and I just got a notice from my US Distributor that the Hamata clad guys are in the mail! 

However, I all ready started the Triarri and took your suggestion guitarheroandy.  I used a variety of the command sprue heads, and the replacement right legs with greaves to help armor them up and look veteran.  I also used some old Hoplite bodies with Cuirass that I had from other projects, but gave them Italian style helmets.  I have not glues the shields on, but plan on using left-over Hoplite shields instead of the Italian style Scutum. 

Pictures soon-ish in its own thread...
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: WuZhuiQiu on January 23, 2021, 09:25:36 PM
Well, all this belly-aching and I just got a notice from my US Distributor that the Hamata clad guys are in the mail! 

Pun unintended, of course?  ;)
Title: Re: Victrix- Republican Roman Legions Question
Post by: Easy E on January 26, 2021, 09:18:50 PM
I have two stupid questions! 

1. What color of feathers would be on Roman helmets?  My sources say Black and red.... but not white?  I am assuming they are goose feathers so this confuses me.  I also read a reference to purple. 

2. Since everyone had to get their own gear, how likely is it that they would have matching shields?  I see this is a common painting trope, but it doesn't "feel" right to me since everyone brought their own gear in the early Roman Republic?  Any thoughts of sources on shield colors?