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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: gamer Mac on September 20, 2020, 12:42:21 PM
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Been starting a new project 1940 Western Europe
I am have problems with paint colours
My first lot Mk VI's what colour should I use for the dark green bit of the camo?
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The colours I have , which one is the best?
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The next part of the project. Does anybody know what is the proper colour scheme? The scheme in the instructions is totally different
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According to Armoured Acorn, the A9's of 3RTR in the BEF had a colour scheme close to the one on the magazine cover - given as Light Bronze Green No.22 base, with Middle Bronze Green No.23 stripes (not quite as brown as the magazine looks to be). The darker scheme of Middle Bronze Green with Deep Bronze Green is shown on the A13's and other AFV's.
I don't know if Armoured Acorn is still going, but I grabbed their PDF's a few years back and they're superb.
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Out of the three, I like the one on the right most.
As for the Cruiser, he's a very good step-by-step guide I found for your enjoyment:
http://www.thewargamespot.com/bef-g3g4-scheme-painting-guide/
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Out of the three, I like the one on the right most.
As for the Cruiser, he's a very good step-by-step guide I found for your enjoyment:
http://www.thewargamespot.com/bef-g3g4-scheme-painting-guide/
I Like the one on the right as well
Thanks for the link they are a lot lighter kaki than I have seen else where and more brown than green
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The most accurate colour matches have been provided by Mike Starmer in his self-published books. You get proper paint chips which he mixes himself.
Following those chips, the best match for KG3 is Vallejo 70887 Brown Violet, to which I should add a little US Field Drab 70873 to make it browner and slightly lighter.It might be worth mixing a quantity of it, if you are building a small armoured force, since it's nice to have them all matching.
For the KG4 dark green, Vallejo Olive Grey 70888 is a good match.
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I used Tamiya XF-27 Black Green - my only no Vallejo paint on my BEF
I used this in 15mm and 28mm though it was a bit dark for 15mm
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The most accurate colour matches have been provided by Mike Starmer in his self-published books. You get proper paint chips which he mixes himself.
Following those chips, the best match for KG3 is Vallejo 70887 Brown Violet, to which I should add a little US Field Drab 70873 to make it browner and slightly lighter.It might be worth mixing a quantity of it, if you are building a small armoured force, since it's nice to have them all matching.
For the KG4 dark green, Vallejo Olive Grey 70888 is a good match.
Latest version (AFAIK) here https://www.mafva.org/british-vehicle-camouflage-1939-45/?v=79cba1185463
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Maybe this can help you: https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=110&art_id=2138&kb_cat_id=27
The Flames of War-Website has a lot of good painting-Tutorials.
For Infantry I like the Artizan/Crusader-Tutorials: https://www.artizandesigns.com/painting-guides.php
Mick Farnthworth made a book, I think Captain Blood was involved (Right Richard?). Maybe you find some hints in this book.
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There is a lot of info out there
Thanks everyone for the help
But this is what I have done
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Ammo of Mig has a nice set of British colors that I use for painting all my British FoW stuff.
https://www.migjimenez.com/en/acrylic-colors/317-british-colors.html (https://www.migjimenez.com/en/acrylic-colors/317-british-colors.html)
I think the color you are searching for is A.MIG-111 SCC 2 (BRITISH 1941-42 SERVICE DRAB), but as I recall, it is very close to (already suggested) VMC Brown Violet.
Oh, and regarding your pictures... You have even older Dark Angels Green than I have... :D
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Ammo of Mig has a nice set of British colors that I use for painting all my British FoW stuff.
https://www.migjimenez.com/en/acrylic-colors/317-british-colors.html (https://www.migjimenez.com/en/acrylic-colors/317-british-colors.html)
I think the color you are searching for is A.MIG-111 SCC 2 (BRITISH 1941-42 SERVICE DRAB), but as I recall, it is very close to (already suggested) VMC Brown Violet.
Oh, and regarding your pictures... You have even older Dark Angels Green than I have... :D
I still have a round bottle that is still wet and even older
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But this is what I have done
Yeah, that looks good for the Vickers Tanks, Matildas and A13's. Why were the A9's a slightly different colour? Who knows or dares to dream.
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Nice work GM 8)
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They look good, imho!
How thick are your bases, by the by?
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Yeah, that looks good for the Vickers Tanks, Matildas and A13's. Why were the A9's a slightly different colour? Who knows or dares to dream.
There were 2 main schemes in 1940, one used G3 & G4 (G3 - Khaki green, AKA 'service colour' & G4 - Dark green) & the other G3 & G5, (Light green). Which one used was down to the individual units AFAIK but G3/G4 seems far commoner..
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They look good, imho!
How thick are your bases, by the by?
They are mounted on mounting card , thick card maybe a couple of mm thick, I have chamfered the edges as well
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I was about to call these finished when I managed to catch one and drop one on the floor, bits went every where :'( :'( :'(
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Hopefully find all the bits some day
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Ouch! Well, if you do not find it, little plasticard can solve your problems...
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It is amazing how far these little bits fly, I am hoping still to find it
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It is amazing how far these little bits fly, I am hoping still to find it
It will turn up around 5 minutes after you've completed the replacement piece... :?
The models look good.
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It will turn up around 5 minutes after you've completed the replacement piece... :?
The models look good.
That's what's putting me of building a replacement :'(
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Searched every inch of my floor and couldn't find the missing hatch so I made one out of green stuff and a press mould
With the three foot rule I think it looks OK
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Looking at the back of the models there appears to be a recessed section I can't find any pics of what this is supposed to be?
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So I am going to load some storage in here
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What do you think?
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Looking good. I can't tell which one has the replacement.
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Been waiting on the supposed correct colour of paint to finish these and painting other ones
The picture above shows the bronze green
And the picture below shows my darkened version
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Been building some scenery
I thought a petrol station would be a good objective
A web search found one by a member of this forum 'tactical painter' had one that looked ideal
I have ordered the forecourt bits and started building
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While waiting on the ordered bits and have been trying to stick downloaded posters to the model
Just the big door and the windows to fit
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They don't look right what am I doing wrong using PVA to try and stick them down
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Looking good Colin!
I was wondering, maybe paint use watered down pva over the poster while it's in place? That might help it stick more realistically. Also maybe a little brown wash along the edges will remove the 'brand new' look to the posters.
Cheers
Andy
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How are you doing Andy? it has been a while?
I already tried waterdown PVA but it just washed out the colour of the sign
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nice tanks and garage
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How are you doing Andy? it has been a while?
I already tried waterdown PVA but it just washed out the colour of the sign
I've been good thanks. It's been ages! I hope you and the family are well.
Hmm, have you tried a less dilute mixture? Perhaps 3 parts PVA to 1 part water? I suppose it could also be the ink in your printer.
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I am going to try varnish next, nobody else seems to be replying to this thread?
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I am going to try varnish next, nobody else seems to be replying to this thread?
I don't know what it is you don't like about it. Is it that the posters aren't sitting flat on the textured walls?
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I don't know what it is you don't like about it. Is it that the posters aren't sitting flat on the textured walls?
Yep the posters look like bits of paper stuck on the rough surface, don't know how to make them look realistic
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Yep the posters look like bits of paper stuck on the rough surface, don't know how to make them look realistic
Well, I guess you've got the two choices of either taking off the posters and smoothing the bit of wall they're going on, or taking off the posters and sticking them to some flat surface (balsa, card, whatever) and then sticking them back on. Both options require you to remove the posters though. For signs I'd use option 2 and for ordinary paper posters I'd use option 1.
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I’d be inclined to thin a little paint to match the edges and paint over the white paper edges...that will make them look a bit more flush with the wall.
You could then dilute a little Agrax earthshade (GW) and give a thin wash to them to grub them up a bit?
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Thank guys I will give it a try
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As in RL they wouldn't be posters but painted enamel on tin plate and screwed to the wall....I think they look fine . lol
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That's what's putting me of building a replacement :'(
Not quite 5 min but the hatch has appeared after all this time
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The middle one is the bit I lost
Taking the chance to install a commander
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just some paint to add
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Progress on the garage
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Signs looking great!
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Very nice.
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I have changed the title for this thread
As I am going to use this thread to record my efforts in chain of command
I have had my head turned by this game after following various threads and a few blogs on the subject
I have bought the main rules and the 1940 blitzkrieg book. Now just to convert my rapid fire armies to CoC
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Will save you a few shekels in tanks that’s for sure!
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Garage looks great Colin, including the signs.
Yeah, I think I’d have been inclined to slather them under several layers of neat PVA so they dry shiny and look a bit like enamel signs. But they look perfectly good as they are. Nice work 8)
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Will save you a few shekels in tanks that’s for sure!
It will as I already own most of the stuff I would need for this period, although most of it is unpainted or very bad paint jobs from 20-30 years ago
My stuff is also organised for rapid fire and also late war
So First off I need to make some of the patrol markers and some jump off points
Patrol markers I down loaded from the Tactical painters Blog
Printed out and stuck to cheap poker chips, four each for German and British
Had to make jump off points with bits from my bits box
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4 British JOP
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4 Germen JOP
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Good start.
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Patrol markers
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Been painting some German infantry
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Two senior leaders and three junior leaders
And the nine riflemen that make up some of the platoon
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This is a picture of the six MG 34 teams, some serious fire power and a use for sll those prone figures I have never used before
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Ah yes, nobody ever loves the prone figures lol
Like the jump-off points though :)
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Never understood that...surely less to paint!
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Never understood that...surely less to paint!
But still loads to paint :o :o :o
There is thousands them ;D
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Excellent work.
COC early war British v German is my designated project for 2021 so will be following this thread closely.
I looked at doing it in 20mm but as all my other gaming periods are in 25/28mm I decided to go with 25/28mm to save on terrain.
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Excellent work.
COC early war British v German is my designated project for 2021 so will be following this thread closely.
I looked at doing it in 20mm but as all my other gaming periods are in 25/28mm I decided to go with 25/28mm to save on terrain.
Thanks
I have both scales and was looking at my 20 mm for Rapid fire early war when I caught the C0C bug
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A friend recently gave me back some 30 odd AB WWII British that I had given him back in 1999 when I came back to the UK from Canada.
He had never taken them out of the box and they had sat in his basement for 21 years 🤔
They too were for Rapid Fire.
Are your light tanks 20mm or 28mm?
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The tanks on this thread are 20 mm
The MKVI Tanks are from a company called cromwell models, lovely little resin models can't find them anymore
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The MKVI Tanks are from a company called cromwell models, lovely little resin models can't find them anymore
I remember Cromwell Models.
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(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/48/1912-221020230123-48870315.jpeg)
Schutzen platoon from the 5th company, 7th motor Rifle Regiment,
7th panzer division
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Command section
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Three section each made up of 2 X MG 34 teams
Just noticed the lack of grass on some of them
Now on to a british platoon and then some supports
Hopefully try the game soon
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As you have defined which units you are using for the Germans, have you defined which area of combat you will be depicting in France/Belgium?
I started researching the early war battles but got distracted with some commission work.
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Not really researching, just using what have and what I like :D
Any battle will be totally fictional
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Looking good. I have 1940 Germans (Black Tree & Warlord) and French (Crusader & Warlord), and I am seriously contemplating adding 1940 BEF (1st Corps) to the mix.
My only misgivings are that the basic squads aren't that different to the 1944 versions, so it could be a bit 'samey' with my 1944 versions.
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The germans are totally different, early war against late war
No camo, Different colour of uniform, Different weapons and that is just the infantry!
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Looking good. I have 1940 Germans (Black Tree & Warlord) and French (Crusader & Warlord), and I am seriously contemplating adding 1940 BEF (1st Corps) to the mix.
My only misgivings are that the basic squads aren't that different to the 1944 versions, so it could be a bit 'samey' with my 1944 versions.
That's why I am adding a Home Guard unit and a Naval shore party to my BEF and maybe a Cameron Highlanders section also
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The germans are totally different, early war against late war
No camo, Different colour of uniform, Different weapons and that is just the infantry!
Oh I know that, but the squad organisation is very much the same unless you take a PzGren unit with two LMG per squad. I've done my EW Germans with the four squad platoon, but essentially they play very similarly to the my standard LW Heer platoon. As is also the case with the British platoon. They were tactically almost identical in 1940 and 1944.
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We tried our first game tonight of chain of command
It was just a trial run with just an infantry platoon each , no supports
The patrol phase did not go well for me, half my jump off points ended up against my table edge
And my brother started the game with two double 6 phases, with none of my troops on the table the Germans
Had free reign to advance across the table
Then my luck changed and I got a Double 6 phase and I got to activate one of my sections and deploy then in a house with a german squad advancing in the open across the road right in front, the squad was reduced to one man who then retreated , in my second phase I deployed a second squad into another house and just about wipe a second German squad
Ran out of time after that but a fun game and the rules were quite easy to pick up but could do with a play sheet
not many pictures WILL POST THEM TOMORROW
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Your collection is coming along nicely Colin👍
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Some pictures
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The next time I will try and keep a better photo record
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Nice looking table and by the sounds of it a very common game where the situation can change dramatically.
I thought long and hard about getting into COC as watching some of the TFL videos it seemed that one side frequently got steamrollered. But then during one of their Oddcasts they discussed ‘dead ground’ and I think I will add that to my future games.
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Some more buildings
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inside ground floor
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first floor
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And a war memorial for the town
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Excellent work, sir.
For the WW1 memorial, you should add some inscriptions on it (names of the deads, name of the town,...), and maybe some flowers around it.
And some verdigris on it could be nice.
But it's for details, and it's really a great addition for a french town.
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Thanks
I was thinking of adding a plaque
As for the verdigris I figured that by 1940 the monument wouldn't be that old so no verdigris
I have a few other ideas to add
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They're looking great :)
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Loving the houses...the window boxes are a nice touch!
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That game looks great! Everything is painted nicely and in my favorite scale.
Very well done!!
Thanks.
John
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Lovely stuff.
As to the war memorial, Sgts Mess do/used to do
a packet of poppy wreaths. 20mm, but could still
work in 28mm. Could drape a Tricolour on it too.
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Tres bien, mon brave 8)
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Nice looking table and by the sounds of it a very common game where the situation can change dramatically.
I thought long and hard about getting into COC as watching some of the TFL videos it seemed that one side frequently got steamrollered. But then during one of their Oddcasts they discussed ‘dead ground’ and I think I will add that to my future games.
I would strongly suggest reading some of the campaign reports from 'Tiny Hordes' or 'The Tactical Painter'. They are brilliant. And give you a really good insight into how the rules work.
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Thanks Shahbahraz, I have already looked at Tactical Painter’s excellent blog and Tiny Hordes site.
The question of dead ground has come up at various times during club games using other periods so I will experiment with some.
@ gamer Mac - matte board for your buildings? They look good.
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Dead ground is an issue with all WW2 rule sets I have seen, even those that try and cover it.
Real dead ground is very hard to represent in our scale tables.
My approach as terrain is never to scale, (trees and hills too low etc) is rather than try and look at every situation with a laser I do either:
1.) KISS and say no overlooking tress , houses, hills etc and adjacent to linear terrain for cover when looking from height, or
2.) Decide on a fixed dead zone eg 6" for woods, 4" for walls etc.
I tend to play 1.) mainly as it avoids a lot of 'discussion.'
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I built this for an extra big of cover in my town
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Cool, and useful if you are caught short in a firefight.
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Very nice :)
If you need a customer for it, I found this figure very useful:
http://hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=william-%252d-pre-order~hfa066&category=modern-%26%0D%0Apost%252dapoc~modern-adventurers
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Thanks
But it is 20 mm
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Ooops! My excuse is, it’s Christmas morning and I’ve been on the gin.
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Nice 8)
Bit more staining where it counts? lol
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I am a big fan of C of C but I will say not all battles go to plan.
The dead ground is very important, but also is patience. As the defender I often can go a couple of phases and not bring on troops, or at least troops in forward positions until I get a feel for the attackers intentions.
Also as we have all read plenty of battles were a position does get overrun, in C of C, especially the Pint Sized Campaigns (PSC) knowing when to pull back is crucial.
Nice looking table and by the sounds of it a very common game where the situation can change dramatically.
I thought long and hard about getting into COC as watching some of the TFL videos it seemed that one side frequently got steamrollered. But then during one of their Oddcasts they discussed ‘dead ground’ and I think I will add that to my future games.
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Working my way through the support list for a schutzen platoon for the 7th Armoured division
I have a Pz II and a PZ III Needed a PZ 38t
PSC supplied
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Not great pictures sorry
I have most of the required models to fulile the list
Just need a PZ jager 1 and a bison sig 33
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better picture
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Also making an early war fallschirmjager platoon
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Do you think the colours are right?
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No, obviously the helmet should be the same blue as the plastic lid to his left! lol
Actually I think they look pretty close. Maybe a drybrush of VJ green/grey on the jumpsuit?
TBH I am not sure what shade the early jump helmets would be someone with more knowledge will surely inform you.
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Nice ones colin! 8) It will nice to finally get a game with these once all this covid s@#t is over!!
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Lovely additions to the collection Colin 8)
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No, obviously the helmet should be the same blue as the plastic lid to his left! lol
Actually I think they look pretty close. Maybe a drybrush of VJ green/grey on the jumpsuit?
TBH I am not sure what shade the early jump helmets would be someone with more knowledge will surely inform you.
That's been my problem, I have been waiting on the someone with more knowledge lol
I have tried various greys and Greens
I ended up using a dark grey from "coat d arms"
A lot of the early war pictures also show sand coloured ones but I take it they were for crete?
Thanks Guys
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Look fine to me!
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I think they look good Colin. Perfect Luftwaffe grey-blue on the helmet, contrasting with the more earthy colours on the jump suit. Nice :)
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Thanks guys
With the expert seal of approval I now have my colour scheme :D
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My brother dropped these off today
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The last couple of things I needed for the support lists
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and some progress on a garden and the start of a chateau
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Ha! Liking the garden start! Nice idea with the support canes.
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Thanks as said elsewhere it is all your fault lol lol lol
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What colour should I paint the uniforms of the crews of these two vehicles?
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Finished another support choice
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Outstanding gun and crew.
Love them. :-*
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Yeah, that is excellent. Well done.
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Nice work!
The German para helmet in 1940 was ‘apple green’, really more of an olive colour but not blue or blue grey. Vallejo Olive Grey works for me. That said, grey does give a better contrast.
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Carlos
I Bow to your greater knowledge but I just went with what looked right :D
There is a LOT of different opinions on helmet colours for the German Fallschirmjager
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Nice addition to the collection Colin :)
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Another painted a Panzer Jager 1
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just some decals to find and a base
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Very cool
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Interesting looking guns...nice one!
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Those are nifty Colin. Interesting looking AFVs. Quite Heath-Robinson in appearance. Not the usual sleek Nazi menace ;)
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tiny as well
I will show a picture against normal size familiar tank
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Wow, they make the Stug look massive!
Nice painting! They do look rather endearingly bodged together but they have tracks, some armour and a gun so i guess they are dangerous enough if their opponent has nothing better.
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We managed to squeeze in a game of CoC yesterday. Very much still learning the rules not played it enough got loads wrong
We played one of the scenarios from the 1940 Book
My brother had a german shutzn platoon from the 9th Panzer division with 15 support points for a Bison, a 75mm infantry gun and a panzer III
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Germans charging across the table from left to right
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My JP's
I had a 1940 regulation platoon with 10 points of support for a 2lbs AT gun , a vicker MG, a Damilar Dingo Armoured car with a Anti-Tank rifle
I still haven't got the hang of the parol phase I got my JP's all in a line in one corner of the table with my brothers spread right across the table
The game was not a close one I could move out of my starting point my AT gun did manage to stop Bison from wipeing the floor with my troops and the vicker done ok
But even with my brother shit dice throwing I had loads of casulties compared to his few
We are crap at the rules never once did me roll for leader casualties more training required
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The last couple of pics show my loses then my brothers loses and then the gun he never even used
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Love your table setup.
Very nice.
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We have started playing our first campaign the ceaser camp PSC
i have noted that as the british player I will get tank support from the French so after a search of my old boxes I have found these two.
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French camo is a pain and I don't have any decals
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Try a little freehand?
Yup, I’ve noticed there is always something you need for each campaign that you just don’t have! Lol
Still, nice to keep your project flowing...
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Nice camo Colin! 8)
Now....wheres that Tiger tank I need for my side? ;)
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You don't get one lol
You can have a 37 AT gun to bounse shells off my tanks :D
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Still try to progress the campaign
For the next table a few farm building are needed so I dug out some really old buildings and also built two new ones
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Further on in the campaign I need a Chateau
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Very good. You can’t have enough rural buildings. The barns look great and liking this house….
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Nice job on those Colin👍
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Love the new buildings. :-*
Also love the Bison and anti tank gun on Pz I .
Anyone know where I can get them 1/48 scale in resin.
(I know I am dreaming, but you never Know.)
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Fantastic Colin! 8) I still remember playing Warhammer(2nd edition?) over some of them! I can't wait to play CoC over them.
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Great scratchbuildings. :-* :-*
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Love the new buildings. :-*
Also love the Bison and anti tank gun on Pz I .
Anyone know where I can get them 1/48 scale in resin.
(I know I am dreaming, but you never Know.)
You would need to ask my brother but I think the Pz I was printed from scaled down 1/56 scale File
I believe the Bison was scaled up from a 15 mm file
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Thanks for the information, gamer Mac. :)
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We started the second game of our campaign tonight, Ceasers Camp Game 2
So far it is not going well.
My british supported by some french tanks
But I found out that a Char B1 is not immune to 37 mm AT fire
I am have problems with photos tonight I will post some tomorrow
Not sure of the point of this game how do the germans win it?
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I am really loving this thread! Your work is fantastic-the bison is my favourite vehicle so far... but what really caught my attention were the houses. I have always struggled to scratch build terrain in 20mm but you make it look effortless. Can I ask where did you get the windows and doors for the chateau?
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Thanks
The windows for the Chateau were found on Ebay. The front door is a plaster cast from linka moulds
Photos of the game
My wife is using the garden room as an office so I had to resort to my old table
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In this campaign the maps are very unfogiving to the british player
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my take on the map
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The box it to keep my fields flat
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View from the British side
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I was first to go so I brought on my first big tank not played using a tank before an I think I must have forgot to tell the driver to close his vision slit Because the first think my brother did was to place his pidily little 37 mm in line with my huge monster and fire one shot to totally destroy my game winning beast
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Don’t forget to use your smoke fella….be sure to drop it in front of their firing positions!
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I had totally forgotten about Linka molds... I will have a look around ebay. Thanks again and thanks for sharing
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Don’t forget to use your smoke fella….be sure to drop it in front of their firing positions!
That was my plan but he wasn't there to put smoke in front of, he deployed and fired once, big tank F;;ked,
smoke was there for a while and then he ended the turn before I could move anything else, small tank is now trying to squeese past the big wreck
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Managed to squeeze the next installment of this game
small H39 got passed his big brother cover by loads of smoke this time
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Fired so much smoke I have been unable to shoot at the AT Gun
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The small H39 moving to avoid the 88mm bunker buster
Will finish the game next time
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Not been posting anything for ages
I have some new tanks printed and almost painted will post some picture tomorrow
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Some 3D printed stuff
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I have been struggling to find one of these but managed to find a 1/56 Scale that I scaled down to 1/72 scale