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Title: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on September 24, 2020, 10:26:41 AM
I am jumping on the war of the roses bandwagon.
I have never really had much interest in this/these wars as I get completely lost in all the kings and shifting allegiances. But now I am giving it a go.

On a spur of the moment thing my gaming buddy Erik and me ordered 10mm armies from Pendraken. It later turned out I had one in the leadpile already that I had bought on a whim years ago... ::)

But this time I fully intend to paint up an army of Lancasters. Hence this thread. Also perhaps to put some preasure on Erik for him to get his lot of traitorous Yorkist painted ud.

This is my first try with 10mm miniatures. They are perhaps a bit on the dark side of things. I might try to lighten them up a bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/zJAi9Ei.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on September 24, 2020, 12:15:08 PM
 8) 8) 8)

Billhooks perchance?
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on September 24, 2020, 01:20:45 PM
Initially the plan was to try out the old Bloddy Barons from Peter Pig. But I guess we will give the Billhooks a chance as well.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on September 24, 2020, 02:25:46 PM
Initially the plan was to try out the old Bloddy Barons from Peter Pig. But I guess we will give the Billhooks a chance as well.

I've played Bloody Barons's V.1 but I understand V.2 is out now and is quite different?
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: FierceKitty on September 25, 2020, 02:43:17 AM
Stop tempting me! I've got to paint my galley fleets first!
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on September 27, 2020, 12:51:09 PM
I have finished up a mob of infantry. This lot is raised by Henry Beaufort Duke of Sommerset.
(https://i.imgur.com/TuHO8IB.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on September 27, 2020, 12:52:21 PM
 8) 8) 8)

Great stuff
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on September 27, 2020, 07:59:48 PM
Wow. They look great. I will be starting my Yorkist army tonight so look out.

Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: AKULA on September 27, 2020, 08:05:57 PM
Nice job mate

 :)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Sandinista on October 04, 2020, 10:51:14 AM
Great stuff, 10mm is my favourite scale

Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on October 09, 2020, 02:57:47 PM
I have finished some Irish Kern. Here seen sneaking through some rough terrain to bushwhack some Yorkists.
(https://i.imgur.com/w2nfOek.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on October 12, 2020, 09:01:17 AM
John deVere Earl of Oxford takes the field.
(https://i.imgur.com/LfkrwqQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on October 12, 2020, 09:43:11 AM
 8) 8) 8)

They look great.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on October 12, 2020, 08:43:36 PM
Damned those well mixed infantry stands :o :o :o
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on November 16, 2020, 07:40:54 AM
I can finally present my first bit for a Yorkist force. Warwick and some royal forces along with a large mercenary pike block. They have also brought some handgunners and artillery with them.

This is pretty much what you get in a 10 mm army deal from Pendraken. I have placed a new order for more reinforcements. At the moment our plans are to use Bloody Barons with units mainly 8 bases strong.

(https://i.imgur.com/KyQ9nIR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XbeWNgC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v4jd8MQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Nfw0ABs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MqKJI5c.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ivWPwqN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/chTxsI4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/47KIYn5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/o7ZBdFe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RqDi4Wp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fD5athH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rp71yDY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pbWpRDK.jpg)

Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Captain Blood on November 16, 2020, 09:15:32 AM
Amazing Erik  :)

Right down to the crosses on the Burgundian artillerymen  :o :o
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Ray Rivers on November 16, 2020, 12:33:47 PM
But this time I fully intend to paint up an army of Lancasters. Hence this thread. Also perhaps to put some preasure on Erik for him to get his lot of traitorous Yorkist painted ud.

Appears Erik has got the jump on you!  ;)

Well done, Erik!  :-*
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on November 17, 2020, 07:01:28 PM
We’ll it looks like I have better get in gear.
I’ll start out with four bases of mercenary crossbowmen.
(https://i.imgur.com/3q44wVf.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: fred on November 17, 2020, 10:41:33 PM
 Nice work, always good to see more 10mm
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on January 03, 2021, 01:02:48 PM
I have done a few more bases for the Lancastrians.
(https://i.imgur.com/hAquTi1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1ICEqAD.jpg)

I have run out of bases, so I will have to wait to finish more until I get a fresh supply.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on January 03, 2021, 08:28:53 PM
Nice to see you up and running again. Quite envy all the cavalry you have done already.

I will join as soon as my models arrive.

Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on January 07, 2021, 06:27:20 PM
I have started making some small scale trees. This is the first proof of concept test tree. It turned out great I think. So now I have 20 more on deck.
(https://i.imgur.com/e3g5rHq.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on January 07, 2021, 08:40:25 PM
Looks fantastic and prober scale as well.

Nice to see real size trees.

What did you use for the trunk?


Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: fred on January 07, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
Have you used the Faller (or perhaps Noch) tree sprues? These look a little larger than the ones I used for 10mm, but they do look a good size for the figures.

One thing I need was add a good coat of diluted PVA over the clump foliage as otherwise I found that after a few months of gaming most of the clump foliage fell off!
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Captain Blood on January 08, 2021, 05:40:57 PM
Nifty little figures Frede. I like the artillery in particular  :)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on January 09, 2021, 07:16:19 PM
Thanks.
The trees are made from these cheap tree armatures from China chopped down.
(https://i.imgur.com/1eDxJPN.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 06, 2021, 07:24:50 PM
I am still working on this. Perhaps I might even get to play with them soon. I must say that this whole lockdown malarkey has put a bit of a dampener on my painting enthusiasm.

A unit og bow and bill
(https://i.imgur.com/2hJYrZJ.jpg)

And a general
(https://i.imgur.com/XDh2wsT.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 07, 2021, 03:27:37 PM
And I managed to finish of another unit of bows and bills this weekend.
(https://i.imgur.com/cJCESuj.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on February 07, 2021, 05:00:09 PM
Charming stuff  :-*

Very tempting to do something at a smaller scale but I need to try to keep the focus on the three ongoing projects.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: NurgleHH on February 08, 2021, 07:05:20 PM
You painted this too tiny figures so brilliant. But the gras is too high, looks like they running through fields. Maybe another kind of gras???
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: mmcv on February 08, 2021, 08:17:24 PM
These look great!
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on February 09, 2021, 09:18:16 AM
Indeed they do. My are unfortunately lost in the mail, but Im not out of the race yet. As soon as reinforcement arive, I will be back in the saddle.

Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 09, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
Indeed they do. My are unfortunately lost in the mail, but Im not out of the race yet. As soon as reinforcement arive, I will be back in the saddle.

Cheers
Erik

Speaking of saddles: Paint your cavalry while you wait..
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 16, 2021, 05:41:23 PM
I have painted a unit of Scots to join the Lancaster cause.
(https://i.imgur.com/jEbD0Fx.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on February 22, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
They look great. We might expand into Flodden at some point  :D.

In fear of repeating myself, my miniatures are still somewhere in the great world of lost mail. Pendraken have send me a new pack, but who knows when that will arive.

Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on February 22, 2021, 11:13:35 AM
Fab work  8)

Still moving me dangerously into thinking about smaller scales  ???
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 22, 2021, 06:09:06 PM
I managed to finish up a more formed up unit of Irish to go with the Kerns I did earlier. I had a really hard time finding a suitable Irish banner, so I went with this one with the three crowns. It is probably not 100% suitable but neither is the Scottish Saltire.
(https://i.imgur.com/zfZckH0.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: fred on February 22, 2021, 07:34:06 PM
I like those! Are the Gallowglass a mix of Pendraken and Irregular?

Have you seen the new(ish) Pendraken Kerns they add some nice variety to the unarmoured troops.

Still moving me dangerously into thinking about smaller scales  ???

You know you will. It’s just a matter of time...
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 22, 2021, 07:37:26 PM
They are all Pendraken. I did the Kerns as well they are on page one of this thread.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: fred on February 22, 2021, 10:26:51 PM
They are aren’t they - for some reason I was thinking the one in the padded jacket with axe over his shoulder was Irregular, but the irregular figures are standing, holding their axe.

I’d missed the Kerns on the first page - they look good.

It was the figures in the Elizabethan range I was pointing out as the new ones, and certainly I think the Irish figures work for this slightly earlier period

For example these guys
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4880/EL14.jpg)
Form here https://pendraken.co.uk/renaissance/elizabethan-1560-1610/
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: bluewillow on February 23, 2021, 08:13:01 AM
Fantastic looking Armies, what rules are you using for them?

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 23, 2021, 08:34:59 AM
We have not yet played with them, but the plan is to use Bloody Barons V.1 and/or Never mind the billhooks.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on February 24, 2021, 11:09:27 AM
arrowfodder!!
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Captain Blood on February 24, 2021, 06:01:28 PM
You are churning these out at a cracking rate Frede  :)
Looking good!
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 28, 2021, 04:27:06 PM
Thanks.

Managed to finish a unit of Welsh spearman and archers.
(https://i.imgur.com/Yg80ZyF.jpg)

Now I need to finish one more unit of bows and bills and I have the eight units we originally set out to finish. Then it is just a matter of waiting for Erik.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on March 01, 2021, 07:23:11 AM
Nice miniatures and painting. Tell me, are there any englishmen in your army? lol lol lol

I would like to correct, that we are not waiting for Erik. We are waiting for the post service and god forbid it the Danish customs.



Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on March 01, 2021, 02:40:53 PM
Nice miniatures and painting. Tell me, are there any englishmen in your army? lol lol lol

I would like to correct, that we are not waiting for Erik. We are waiting for the post service and god forbid it the Danish customs.

Why waste perfectly good englismen to the Yorkist arrows, when I can use the Scots, Irish and Welsh.. ;D

Oh and tell your cavalry that we are just waiting on the post...
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on March 04, 2021, 05:44:33 PM
I painted a retinue belonging to Sir Robert Harleston
(https://i.imgur.com/Rfs9rXV.jpg)

And some more cavalry
(https://i.imgur.com/qPGnd2n.jpg)

I now just need to paint up some commanders. I think perhaps in the weekend I will post up a class photo.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on March 04, 2021, 06:27:29 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on March 06, 2021, 12:29:28 PM
To finish out my army I painted some various command bases: Duke of Sommerset, Earl of Devon, Duke of Buckingham and King Henry VI.
(https://i.imgur.com/HY7NUYV.jpg)

And I have had the whole lot out for a class photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/ucvYkTJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rU9zHpF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IqcvqNe.jpg)

The Full Roster is:
Commanders
King Henry VI.
Duke of Sommerset
Earl of Devon
Duke of Buckingham
Vicecount Beaumont

Infantry
Sir James Luttrell
Sir Robert Marleston
Sir John Fortescue
John De Vere, Earl of Oxford
Henry Beaufort, Duke of Sommerset
A contingent of Scottish troops
A contingent of Welsh troops
A contingent of Irish troops
Mercenary Handgunners
Mercenary Cannons
Mercenary Crossbowmen

Cavalry
Contingent of Hobilars
Contingent of heavy horse.

Now I am just waiting for when the Yorkist dare to take the field.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on March 06, 2021, 12:30:37 PM
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on March 06, 2021, 01:55:48 PM
Wow. They look great. I really like your command stands and the whole army lined up. I should be up and running next week. Ransom money to Post Nord has been paid.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: fred on March 06, 2021, 03:28:50 PM
The command stands are great, have you printed the flags, or are they commercial ones?

The whole army looks great arrayed for battle.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on March 06, 2021, 04:30:30 PM
Thanks.
I got the banners from Old Glory. Pendraken also sell some. But they are horribly pixelated and does not name the banners.

As it turns out I was not completely finished. I had two more cannons stashed away. They were quick to finish however.
(https://i.imgur.com/yujsy6V.jpg)
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on September 14, 2021, 11:55:40 AM
Better late than never as they say  :D :D

I finally managed to finish of my Yorkist force. A mixture of lost mail, work and everyday distraction have held them back.

8 units of bill and bow and one larger unit af pike. No cavalry yet, but I might go back and paint more infantry.

(https://i.imgur.com/PF5S9m5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qJkFQbL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rzSi94l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Wa3CrlO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dGahkzC.jpg)

Cheers
Erik
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Atheling on September 14, 2021, 12:14:06 PM
Cracking little fellows Erik  :-*
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: rafm3ic on September 14, 2021, 07:36:32 PM
I am not usually one for these little fellows but they do look good in a grouping like that.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on September 15, 2021, 08:05:02 AM
Looking good. We have to see if we can actually get to play a game with them at some point.
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Erik on September 15, 2021, 11:58:45 AM
They will have to wait for the cold war to blow over  lol lol
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Dr. Zombie on September 15, 2021, 01:00:50 PM
They will have to wait for the cold war to blow over  lol lol

I know, but at one point you will have to get tired of loosing our Cold war games. ;D
Title: Re: Small scale War of the roses
Post by: Captain Blood on September 16, 2021, 01:51:26 PM
Blimey :o
This is the way to do it for big battles methinks.
Well done you Danes. I wonder if there are any Brits refighting Danish dynastic wars of the Fifteenth Century?  ;)

Looking good. We have to see if we can actually get to play a game with them at some point.

lol