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Title: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on November 25, 2020, 09:38:47 AM
Holy hell!!!!!

 :o :o :o

(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/126424915_2082422118560338_6050464371836269918_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=UF2HMnNOAg4AX-zn-Ao&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr4-2.fna&oh=b0c00ef0936ac737370b0e67e4e6f121&oe=5FE4DF34)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Captain Blood on November 25, 2020, 10:24:53 AM
Wow  :-*
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on November 25, 2020, 10:29:35 AM
Wow  :-*

The conversion/kitbashing possibilities alone Richard!  :o
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on November 25, 2020, 10:46:10 AM
Liking those a lot. Shame the infantry have been delayed.

Steve
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on November 25, 2020, 11:57:28 AM
Liking those a lot. Shame the infantry have been delayed.

Steve

I don't think it will be all that long a wait. I'm expecting the infantry sometime in early-ish 2021
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Munindk on November 25, 2020, 01:15:52 PM
They've scheduled the infantry for february 2021, but who know :?
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on November 25, 2020, 01:29:45 PM
They've scheduled the infantry for february 2021, but who know :?

Yeah, something like that. I was just told early-ish 2021 yesterday. :)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: levied troop on November 25, 2020, 02:36:00 PM
Nah...... I already have enough Normans.

Well, 1 box a few boxes won’t hurt, will it they.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Codsticker on November 25, 2020, 04:30:13 PM
Februrary 2021? I'll have moved onto another project by then. ::) lol
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on November 25, 2020, 04:42:21 PM
Februrary 2021? I'll have moved onto another project by then. ::) lol

Yeah, of course. That's what I said 20 off years ago when I first started a Norman army  lol

Which, must mean the Mark Sims Normans are about 20 years old now? Wow!
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on November 25, 2020, 05:40:20 PM
Looking good! So much to do before I could start these though.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: tomrommel1 on November 26, 2020, 10:34:24 AM
really nice indeed
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Maniac on November 26, 2020, 03:42:42 PM
They look fantastic, but they'll come never at the rate the foot have arrived.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: bluewillow on November 30, 2020, 08:25:44 AM
A good variation of helms can stretch these a long way forward, good idea Victrix, add round shields and you can even do Spainish and Italian kingdoms.

A few bags I expect will be added to my collection!

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on November 30, 2020, 10:43:20 AM
A good variation of helms can stretch these a long way forward, good idea Victrix, add round shields and you can even do Spainish and Italian kingdoms.

A few bags I expect will be added to my collection!


Yep, the First, Second and Third Crusade to say the very least  8)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Cypher226 on November 30, 2020, 01:19:39 PM
They're a bit good!
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: guitarheroandy on November 30, 2020, 01:34:19 PM
Stunningly good!! Victrix are in a different league to other ancient/dark age/medieval plastics in my opinion.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on December 09, 2020, 11:40:55 AM
Another preview posted.

Steve

(https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/130819164_2096014600534423_829490017633831246_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Xp7fA5ABlGoAX-qpCFA&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-1.fna&oh=2ce61f42770676975a8a402d1cc79c1d&oe=5FF6ED9B)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on December 09, 2020, 11:47:25 AM
 :o :o :o :o :o

Does anyone have a Vicrix horse to Crusader Horse Comparison shot please? The Large Norman horses not the eBob ones if possible please?)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Codsticker on December 10, 2020, 02:02:19 AM
Another preview posted.

Steve

(https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/130819164_2096014600534423_829490017633831246_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Xp7fA5ABlGoAX-qpCFA&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-1.fna&oh=2ce61f42770676975a8a402d1cc79c1d&oe=5FF6ED9B)
The first rider with a round shield and javelins has Spanish written all over him.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: levied troop on December 10, 2020, 07:50:33 AM
Damn! It’s going to be impossible to resist these.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Munindk on December 10, 2020, 07:52:30 AM
I'll have to learn to paint horses now... *sigh*
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Captain Blood on December 10, 2020, 09:40:05 AM
Damn! It’s going to be impossible to resist these.

Yes it is  :-* lol

I really like that horse, never mind the riders. Fab all round.
Looking at the incredible dynamism of their recent Napoleonic Polish Lancers set, if this set is half as good, they will be well worth having.
Quite different from my last Norman army (circa 1980, second generation Minifigs, based on the WRG 'Armies and Enemies' series - which I thought were the bees' knees at the time... Ah, the onward march of history... :))
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on December 10, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
Yes it is  :-* lol

I really like that horse, never mind the riders. Fab all round.
Looking at the incredible dynamism of their recent Napoleonic Polish Lancers set, if this set is half as good, they will be well worth having.
Quite different from my last Norman army (circa 1980, second generation Minifigs, based on the WRG 'Armies and Enemies' series - which I thought were the bees' knees at the time... Ah, the onward march of history... :))

I've already got about 48 Mounted Milites painted up..... do I need more?

You bet!  :D
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Mindenbrush on December 10, 2020, 08:21:35 PM
Very nice  - much better than the Conquest ones I am putting together and painting for a friend.

The only niggle I have had with Victrix so far is that one of the three types of Iberian Light Cavalry horses always had a sink hole in the neck and it varied with which horse half in every pack.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on January 14, 2021, 02:24:53 PM
Another preview. Looking like there are going to be lots of options with this set.

EDIT - Text from the post for those who don't use facebook.

'Here we have some renders of the 3rd Norman cavalry figure. It looks very dynamic and has multiple head and weapon arm variants. We are have put a lot of effort into making this set more versatile, so you can use them not just as Normans, but also Spanish and Andalusians. Note the Arabized head with turban and the Adarga shield option often used by the Spanish and their Muslim allies and enemies.

You can use all the heads shown on the previous 2 figures on this figure so there will be plenty of head options in this set.

This will be a 12 figure set with 2 x frames of 6 riders and 3 x frames of 4 horses. We will put quite a few shield options on the horse frame and aim to add in some long heater shields and some round shields as well as the kite and Adaga shields. Tassels that normally adorn Adarga shields are going to be separate objects so this means you can apply a transfer and then glue the tassels on. Or you can vary were the tassels are placed, or you can decorate the horse tack with the tassels to make them look more Islamic. Some extra sword scabbards will be done for Islamic variants.
This will be one of our most dynamic sets to date. Keep your eyes peeled for more news.'

Steve

(https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/138606735_2126037924198757_4573050061806206558_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=usd1IX_PPAIAX_bIa78&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=e7f22078cce3278dd76e1345ff845e46&oe=6027D25E)

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Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on January 14, 2021, 04:00:19 PM
Oh boy!!!  :o :-* :-* :-* :o

Such a versatile set with the 'Spanish' options.  8)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Cubs on January 14, 2021, 05:02:54 PM
So looking forward to these.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: James Morris on January 15, 2021, 07:34:07 PM
These are just awesome.  Loving the Spanish options.  I don’t need any more figures for this period but...
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on January 15, 2021, 07:44:41 PM
These are just awesome.  Loving the Spanish options.  I don’t need any more figures for this period but...

 lol A few more won't hurt  ;) :D
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: bluewillow on January 16, 2021, 10:15:38 AM
Yes quite impressed, I think I will also use some for the Anarchy wars of Stephen and Matilda......lots of options if I add the face plate and some fluted helmets heads from Mirliton and some green stuff to add Chausses of mail and flat topped shields.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: emosbur on February 04, 2021, 09:18:57 PM
Heart shaped adargas in XI century? Hum.... Too early, me thinks.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on February 06, 2021, 03:05:57 PM
Heart shaped adargas in XI century? Hum.... Too early, me thinks.

True. But, they add a certain flavour.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: AdamPHayes on February 07, 2021, 11:18:17 AM
If I could get those riders as one piece castings I’d be cock-a-hoop! (Yes, I know why I can’t...) it will be interesting to see how they chop them up for the sprue.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on February 26, 2021, 11:14:44 AM
Some more updates from Victrix.

Text from the post for those who don't use FB.

'We have renders of the 4th Norman cavalry figure. We are showing the classic Norman and Breton look figures but also showing some of the head and shield options to be included so you can make Spanish and Andalusian cavalry (and lots more besides)
We have another two cavalry figures to finish for the Norman cavalry set and these will be wearing scale armour.'


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Apologies for the images on my previous post disappearing, not quite sure why that has happened.

Steve
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Captain Blood on February 26, 2021, 09:30:57 PM
Fabulous. So looking forward to these.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on February 27, 2021, 09:12:27 AM
I think this could potentially be one of their best sets yet, look to be so many options included.

Steve
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on February 27, 2021, 11:15:40 AM
As if my Norman/Spanish armies aren't big enough!  :-*

They will be getting ever so slightly larger!!

One question though, are there plans for Unarmoured Norman Infantry/Archers/Crossbows and Mounted Pueri?

Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on February 27, 2021, 12:55:38 PM
I believe the Norman infantry are in tooling now and have both unarmoured and armoured options. There is also a generic Dark Age Archer and Dark Age slinger sets at the design stage too according to images on Facebook.

No mention of crossbows or Mounted Pueri yet though.

Steve
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on February 27, 2021, 01:33:24 PM
I believe the Norman infantry are in tooling now and have both unarmoured and armoured options.

Yeah, I've seen the armoured versions but nothing on the unarmoured front except.....

There is also a generic Dark Age Archer and Dark Age slinger sets at the design stage too according to images on Facebook.

Unusually, I'm not really a fan of the generic Dark Age Archers that Victrix have designed. They just don't have the right look for Normans IMHO- from memory so I could change my mind. :)

No mention of crossbows or Mounted Pueri yet though.

My guess is that they will be in the pipeline as they would round off the range nicely.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on February 27, 2021, 01:57:33 PM
I agree with you about the archers, would much prefer a dedicated set but I guess that may not of been commercially viable. At least with plastics it will be easy to cannibalise parts from the different sets to try and tailor them.

Like you, I hope they will produce crossbows and such too down the line. Really do want them to keep expanding on what they have done for the Dark Age range.

Steve
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on February 27, 2021, 03:00:24 PM
I agree with you about the archers, would much prefer a dedicated set but I guess that may not of been commercially viable. At least with plastics it will be easy to cannibalise parts from the different sets to try and tailor them.

That is my hope too. From what I've seen thus far there ought to be plenty of spares. It's the actual archer poses that I don't like. They just don't seem to be putting the effort in to draw the bow.

Like you, I hope they will produce crossbows and such too down the line. Really do want them to keep expanding on what they have done for the Dark Age range.

They have done a pretty damn good job with most of their ranges so I don't see why not. Swabian Double Handed Swordsmen would be very nice but perhaps I'm asking too much on that one   :D
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on March 16, 2021, 03:48:11 PM
Another preview up.

Blurb from the post:

'Here are the renders for the 5th Norman cavalry figure.

This figure wears scale armour and has an assortment of helmet, shield and weapon arm options. These figures can be used as Normans, Spanish, Andalusians, Early Crusades and other European nationalities.

There is one more figure to do after this and a few extra  head and shield options and then it is done and ready for the tooling layup and then tooling stage.

Scale armour was not as common as chain but was worn and so the 6 figure body frame will contain 4 in mail and 2 in scales. It is interesting to look at the Bayeux tapestry and the way certain types of armour are depicted. The mail armour is easy to identify as it is depicted as circles. Quilted armour is depicted either in squares or diamond patterns, but a few and in particular on the depiction of Bishop Odo has triangular patterns for his armour. Some think this may be quilted armour but if that was so why not depict it as the square or diamond pattern? It looks very much like a crude way to represent scales. Some Italo Normans have been depicted in scales and there are mosaics and illustrations depicting scale armour from the early 11th Century up into the 13th Century. Hopefully that will raise some friendly and good natured debate.'


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Really looking forward to this set. Hoping we see the release of the infantry soon too.

Steve
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Hammers on March 16, 2021, 04:51:09 PM
Oooh, those are a bit good aren't they?
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Hammers on March 16, 2021, 04:55:53 PM
Oooh, those are a bit good aren't they?

First I could not tell if these wear scale or mail, but apparently it is scale. With a different helm these will be great to boost my Rohirrim with!
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Cubs on March 16, 2021, 05:23:47 PM
Want ... these ...
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on March 16, 2021, 07:25:16 PM
Want ... these ...

Yep  :-*
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: TheDilfy on March 17, 2021, 11:16:49 AM
First I could not tell if these wear scale or mail, but apparently it is scale. With a different helm these will be great to boost my Rohirrim with!

That's great news that they are brining out Normans in scale armour - I could utilise these for Baltic Crusader shenanigans  ;)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on March 31, 2021, 01:37:04 PM
Final preview up.

Blurb from the post:

NORMAN CAVALRY AND INFANTRY

Lock up your pigs and daughters as the Normans are coming!

We have just finished sculpting the last of the Norman cavalry figures and they are due to go to the layup stage in a few days and then off to tooling in a month to six weeks.

This last figure shows off a few more of the Italo Norman and Andalusian head variants plus some more shield variants with a convex round shield and two flat topped kite shields. We also made some Andalusian style swords, sword scabbards and daggers. So this will make this an extremely versatile set of miniatures. You can make Normans, Italo Normans, Early Crusades, Spanish, Andalusian and other European nations heavy cavalry. And as some people have mentioned these would make some great cavalry for fantasy games as well.

More great news is that the toolroom has finished cutting the tools for the NORMAN INFANTRY a lot quicker than expected We are hoping for Norman infantry test frames in around 2 weeks and once signed off release should not be too far off.


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Really liking the amount of head options available with these.

Steve


Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on March 31, 2021, 05:12:02 PM
Great to hear that the Norman Infantry are not too far behind the release of the Cav. 8)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: SpaceCudet on April 01, 2021, 09:06:30 AM
Great to hear that the Norman Infantry are not too far behind the release of the Cav. 8)
Aren't the infantry due first?
We have just finished sculpting the last of the Norman cavalry figures and they are due to go to the layup stage in a few days and then off to tooling in a month to six weeks.
...
More great news is that the toolroom has finished cutting the tools for the NORMAN INFANTRY a lot quicker than expected We are hoping for Norman infantry test frames in around 2 weeks and once signed off release should not be too far off.

Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Atheling on April 01, 2021, 12:38:26 PM
Aren't the infantry due first?

Good point, I missed that. either way, I'm happy :)
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: Dolnikan on April 02, 2021, 11:29:57 AM
Ooh! I like these. A true must-have for my slightly generic medieval collection.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: huevans on April 02, 2021, 02:26:24 PM
With the Italo-Norman, Andalusian and First Crusade options, we can hope that some Saracens are also on the TDL at some point.
Title: Re: Victrix Norman Cavalry Renders
Post by: RedRowan on April 03, 2021, 08:36:39 AM
With the Italo-Norman, Andalusian and First Crusade options, we can hope that some Saracens are also on the TDL at some point.

I do hope so.  :)

There is a fun article in the April issue of War-games Illustrated called 'There can be only one...' which looks at the most flexible armies for different periods. First place went to the Arab Conquest army and it detailed just how large an era it could be used for with just a few changes.

After reading that and the 'The First Templar' article in the same issue the first thing I thought was that I hope Victrix produce some suitable figures!

Steve