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Title: SDKFZ 251/7c - used in France in 1940?
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on November 29, 2020, 08:40:30 AM
Does anyone know if this Pionierewagen was used in the invasion of France and the Low Countries in May/June 1940?
Title: Re: SDKFZ 251/7c - used in France in 1940?
Post by: bluewillow on November 29, 2020, 09:08:58 AM
No, the C model was not available until after November 1940 and was issued in 1941, and it was fitted for the invasion of Russia with the assault bridge.

The 251/5 also was fitted with the assault engineer bridge mounted on it for the invasion of Russia, not sure if it was for France.

Cheers
Matt
Title: Re: SDKFZ 251/7c - used in France in 1940?
Post by: Westfalia Chris on November 29, 2020, 09:11:25 AM
I don't have a written source handy, but I seem to recall the Ausf. C only went into production in June or July 1940. Thus, an Ausf. C Panzerpionierwagen would be too late for France, and I haven't seen any photos of the variant on a B chassis, so presumably none of those for France in 1940.

Do correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Title: Re: SDKFZ 251/7c - used in France in 1940?
Post by: Captain Darling on November 29, 2020, 09:18:23 AM
Hi!

As above c version wasn’t produced in time to see action in France 1940.

The Pioneer /7 version started production in November 1940.

Kfz. der Wehrmacht is a good site to check this stuff...
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_english/Motor_Vehicles/Germany/Hanomag/m__SPW/m__spw.html (http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_english/Motor_Vehicles/Germany/Hanomag/m__SPW/m__spw.html)

Cheers!
Title: Re: SDKFZ 251/7c - used in France in 1940?
Post by: Baron von Wreckedoften on November 30, 2020, 05:02:04 PM
Thanks one and all (especially the Kfz der Wehrmacht site - cheers, Darling!).  Saved me purchasing the "Pioneer" bundle from Warlord (31 plastic engineers and the above-mentioned vehicle, plus a two-seater m/cycle) to go with the flotilla of flossacken I just acquired from Redline Miniatures in Spain (very nice people to deal with, btw).