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Other Stuff => The Lead Painters' League => Topic started by: Captain Blood on May 05, 2010, 02:47:08 PM
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Right, this thread is to collect any suggestions that people may have for bonus round themes for future seasons of the Lead Painters League.
You are welcome to post suggestions for possible bonus round themes here.
Just so we're clear, this is just to collect ideas - not to decide anything right now.
To remind you of the sort of thing (and to avoid repeating themes we've already covered), here are all the bonus round themes from previous seasons:
World War II - enter a new team (WW2 Germans, Russians, Brits, Dutch Sailors, Ethiophians, whatever) and you'll get 20 points
Halloween - just paint a team with a Halloween theme, and receive 5 bonus points! So, what´s actually eligible? Pretty much anything, be it Witches, Ghosts and Spectres, Frankensteins Monster, Vampires, Horror Clowns, Serial Killers etc.
Cthulhu - paint a cthulhu-related team of the humans and receive 10 bonus points! Paint a monster team and receive 20 points! Paint a monster team lead by Cthulhu (model sculpted by Bob Murch) himself and receive 30 points!
Conquistadors - Paint some spanish invaders and get 10 points. Paint some Aztecs, Mayas, Incas or Amazon savages like Tupi or Botocudo and get 15 points. Paint both (invaders and natives and make a battle scene with at least five figures on every side) and get 20 Points.
Mad Science - Paint a Mad Doctor and his laboratory staff and get 10 points. Paint a Mad Doctor with some robots or other crazy mechanical things and get 15 points. Paint a Mad Doctor followed of some mutants or other nasty creatures awakened to life by his dark genius and get 20 points.
Back of Beyond - Paint a troupe of 10 (yes, 10!) BoB foot soldiers (Reds, Whites, Brits, Chinese, Japanese, Tibetans, Mongols, Turks etc.) and get 10 points Bonus. Paint a troupe of 5 mounted soldiers and get 15 points. Paint a troupe of 10 soldiers and an armoured car/tank or 5 cavalry riders and an armoured car/tank and get 20 points. Paint a troupe of 10 soldiers and an armoured train or 5 cavalry riders and an armoured train and get 25 points.
Germans - in honour of the homeland of the LAF, paint some Germans and get 10 extra bonus points. From Teutobergerwald to Frederick the Great. The Franco-Prussian War, German East Africa, and World Wars One and Two. Not forgetting of course, weird, zombie or undead Germans. In short, there are a whole lot of Germans to choose from!
Saddle up! - We don’t see too many horses around here, so bonus points in round 5 will be awarded to teams with five or more mounted figures. They don’t have to be regular cavalry – they can be tribesmen, cowboys, reivers or rough riders. Or any type of uniformed cavalry. If you really can't bring yourself to attempt horses, then other real and fantasy animal mounts will be permitted - so wargs, camels, and so on.
And because we all know painting cavalry is quite an undertaking, there are 15 bonus points riding on this round.
The Lost World - Paint a team of five or more Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, aboriginals, skraelings, tribals, pygmies, or other primitive inhabitants of a lost world and get 10 big hairy bonus points. Paint a team of newly discovered primitives or prehistoric survivals and a team of five or more Lost World explorers and adventurers and get 20 bonus points. Paint a team with at least five of each (primitives and adventurers) and add a large dinosaur, woolly mammoth, giant ape, or similar prehistoric leviathan, and get a monster 30 bonus points!
Conan the Barbarian! - Paint five or more Barbarians or other peoples of Conan's world (Serpent Men, Black Kingdoms, Aquilonia etc.) and get 10 extra bonus points. Or paint some Barbarians or other peoples of Conan's world on Horseback and get 15 bonus points. Other animal mounts (sable tiger, lizards, whatever) will be permitted.
Zombies - Paint five or more Zombies (Sci-fi, Near future, Victorian, Old West, etc.) and get 10 extra bonus points. Paint five and more Zombies and a team of five or more intrepid adventurers figthing against zombies and get 20 bonus points.
Victorian Sci-Fi - Paint a team of five or more victorian Sci-Fi adventurers (humans, martians etc.) and get 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more victorian Sci-Fi adventurers (humans, martians etc.) and a small vehicle (a car, a tank, a small boat, etc.) and get 15 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more victorian Sci-Fi adventurers (humans, martians etc.) and a small vehicle (a car, a tank, a small boat, etc.) and a large vehicle (aeronef, terranef, submarine, gun boat, etc.) and get 25 bonus points.
Civilians and bystanders - Paint a team of five or more non-combatant civilians or bystanders, and gain 10 bonus points.
The subject can be historical, pseudo-historical, fantasy, sci-fi or imaginary – whatever you like. But they must be unarmed civilians.
Africa - Anything African, from Ancient Egypt or Numidia, all the way through to the Afrika Korps, Mogadishu and everything in between - including subjects like Zulus, Boers, colonial forces and so on. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a plausible African connection, and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a plausible African connection and include a second team of five or more miniatures portraying their opponents, and gain 20 bonus points.
Scenes (or teams) from famous movies! - By ‘a famous movie’, we mean a movie which a majority of LAFers would have seen, heard of, or come across. Paint a team of five or more miniatures representing a recognisable scene or group from a famous movie, and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures representing a recognisable scene or group from a famous movie, and include a second team of five or more miniatures portraying their opponents, and gain 20 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures representing a recognisable scene or group from a famous movie, include a second team portraying their opponents, and include a vehicle, large animal, creature, or piece of scenery specific to that movie, and gain 30 bonus points.
Old Metal - You may enter any kind of team, be it Sci-Fi, Fantasy, or Historical; the only condition is that figures must have been manufactured in 1991 or before that date. We know that a lot of you folks still have a bunch of those lying around in your lead mountain; failing that, you can find various old miniatures on Ebay, for example, and not too expensive, either. So, to qualify for the 10 Bonus Points, paint a team of 5 or more figures manufactured in or before 1991!
The Worlds of J.R.R.Tolkien - You may base your entry on any of his books, be it The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, the Silmarillion or others. You may use humans or dwarves, elfkin or orcs - but make sure it is a recognizable group or coherent scene from Tolkien's worlds. There should be enough miniature ranges available to provide you with "raw material". There is, however, one restriction: You may NOT use Warhammer Fantasy figures, as those don't really have a "Tolkien" feel and have become more and more "Warhammer-specific". Please note that this does not extend to the Games Workshop Lord of the Rings range - you are free to use those. The restriction only covers Warhammer Fantasy Battles miniatures produced in the last 15-20 years. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to Tolkien adventures, and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to Tolkien adventures, and include a second team of five or more miniatures portraying their opponents, and gain 20 bonus points.
Maritime/Naval - Adventures on the Seven Seas, so basically, anything naval or maritime. This includes, but is not limited to, sailors and pirates, war fleets and merchant navies, creatures of the sea and divers, ships and fish – basically, anything with a decent connection to maritime adventures. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to maritime adventures, and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to maritime adventures, and include a second team of five or more miniatures portraying their opponents, and gain 20 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to maritime adventures, include a second team portraying their opponents, and include a ship, large animal, or other creature and gain 30 bonus points. Please make sure we will be able to see the whole ship/creature/whatever on the photo of your team.
HQ Group - The team should represent some form of command element, distinct from the rank and file troops of a force or army. Examples might be; Napoleons and Generals, Platoon CO with 2IC, Radio Op & runners, etc. While some miniatures might well be from the massed ranks, it should be obvious that the group performs a command function. To qualify for the 10 Bonus Points, paint a team of 5 or more figures.
Historical Civil War - This round's bonus theme is to paint one, preferably both, sides of an historical civil war. Paint a team of five or more miniatures forming one side in a civil war and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures and include a second team of five or more miniatures portraying the opposing sides in a civil war, and gain 20 bonus points.
Science Fiction - Although limited to a single genre, the scope is (hopefully) broad enough to generate a wide range of entries. Flash Gordon vs Emperor Ming, Stormtroopers vs Ewoks, Tripods vs Victorian soldiers, etc. The final round has always provided an opportunity to tell a story in a single scene, and this should be a great opportunity to do something special. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to science fiction, and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to science fiction , and include a second team of five or more miniatures portraying their opponents, and gain 20 bonus points. Paint a team of five or more miniatures with a recognizable connection to science fiction , include a second team portraying their opponents, and include a spaceship, vehicle, large alien beast, or other creature and gain 30 bonus points. Please make sure we will be able to see the whole ship/vehicle/creature/whatever on the photo of your team.
The Realms of Fantasy - Anything that is demonstrably "classic fantasy", including, but not limited to, the Hyborian Age, Dungeons and Dragons, Tolkien, Warhammer etc. This explicitly EXCLUDES "fantasy" themes set in the modern world, e.g. Harry Potter or Twilight. Paint a fantasy-themed team of at least 5 figures and receive an extra 10 points.
The Ancient World - This includes everything from the dawn of civilization, such as Sumerians or Egyptians, to the Fall of Rome in the West and the beginning of the "Dark Ages". Note that this does NOT include either pre-history or ancient mythology - for example, Myceneans would be acceptable, whereas Argonauts or a gang of naughty Neanderthals would NOT be. Paint an ancient-themed team of at least 5 figures and receive an extra 10 points.
The War to end all Wars - This year being the 100th anniversary of the outbreak of the first World War, the final round follows this topic. You may choose any period and theatre during the war, any setting, any scale. Paint a WW1-themed team of at least 5 figures and receive an extra 10 points. Paint a WW1-themed team (5+ figures) AND a "big thing", such as a Big Bertha, a MkIV or a St. Chamond tank, and receive an extra 15 points.
Armour - A team comprising figures that are all demonstrably fully or partially wearing some prominent form of BODY ARMOUR (i.e. Not just a helmet). From ancient, medieval, renaissance and fantasy subjects in plate or mail, through to sci-fi and modern subjects in power armour or kevlar.
Paint a team of at least 5 figures all in full or partial body armour and get 10 extra theme bonus points.
Animals - A team comprising (or including) five animals, real or imaginary EXCEPT horses. So dogs, wolves, camels, elephants, apes, wargs, dragons, mumakil, fell beasts, dinosaurs - anything you like providing they are not humanoid (or humanoid style aliens) or horses. Paint a team of at least 5 animals and get 10 extra theme bonus points. Paint a team of at least 5 animals AND 5 accompanying riders / handlers / herders / crew and get 15 extra theme bonus points. (Please note this extra theme bonus for riders / handlers AND their animals, is an exception to the usual rule about a rider and mount counting as one figure)
Women - Paint a team of 5 or more female figures and gain 10 bonus points. Paint a team of 5 or more female figures AND an accompanying 'big thing' (e.g. a vehicle, large animal or creature, ship, siege engine or structure, aeroplane, armoured fighting vehicle, spacecraft) and gain 20 bonus points.
Ideas for themes need to be wide enough to generate interest and allow for some creativity in the entries (so not 'French Napoleonic Guard Cavalry of 1812 - 1815') but also clear enough to stop people trying to bend the rules!
So - no guarantee that your ideas will be used in future LPLs, but it will certainly give lots of food for thought.
Off you go :)
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Can I go first
I honour of the last winner
Vampires and/or vampire hunters
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... Vampires and/or vampire hunters
Cool, maybe it could be extend to "Gothic Horrors" in general
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A round where you have to drink six Bacardi Breezers before you are allowed to start painting.
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A round where you have to drink six Bacardi Breezers before you are allowed to start painting.
Cool too! That's the only kind of Alcohol I drink as It taste like fruit juices... I don't like the taste of almost all type of alcohol... please don't shoot me lol
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While I do appreciate the beers, wines, and brandies of the world; something of the child in me adores Bacardi Breezers because they taste like fizzy pop.
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What about Lace Wars / Men in Wigs period?
It could include about everything 18th Century… WSS, FIW, SYW, AWI, Pirates and Swashbucklers, etc.
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Africa.
That broad enough for ya? :)
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Amazons - A team composed entirely of females.
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'The Hobbit' hits the cinemas next year. Perhaps a bonus round centred around the book version.
Or, since many of us seem to be cineasts, how about a bonus round were with entries are based on any film, like 'Zulu Dawn", 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Casablanca', 'Deep Throat'...
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how about something regarding "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines"
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"Espionage"
"Navy"
"I painted this while drunk"
"Ludicrously overbuilt"
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Or, since many of us seem to be cineasts, how about a bonus round were with entries are based on any film, like 'Zulu Dawn", 'Saving Private Ryan', 'Casablanca', 'Deep Throat'...
Ah, I like the movie-themed idea.
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"I painted this while drunk"
"Ludicrously overbuilt"
Every entry I have done so far would qualify.
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Lots of great suggestions to which I'd like to either endorse or add:
Movie scene
18th Century
Nudes
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Seriously though:
Navy - anyone or anything that is stationed on a fighting ship, or the boat thereupon - covers ancients to VSF to modern to Star Wars.
Genre Dysfunction - mix genres. Paladins with rayguns, Conan Built My Hotrod, that sorta thing.
Flying Things - good wide range of applicability there.
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"Ludicrously overbuilt"
Definetly covers a lot of my entries so far :D
How about "Robbers" as in thiefs or cops and robbers
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Snipped from a draft e-mail to the Captain and the Professor (never sent):
As regards themes for bonus rounds, I thought the themes for LPL4 were interesting and well-chosen, and they represented a nice variety of some of the more vocal interests on the board. That being said, in practice I thought that the first-round theme (Conan's world) resulted in too much sameness amongst the entries (I love barbarians and I was getting a little tired of looking at so many similar entries myself). In hindsight, I think that broader themes are better, as they result in a more interesting variety of entries.
For LPL5, I thought that "Civil War" might be an interesting bonus round theme, as this applies to a large number of historical conflicts (ACW, ECW, AVBCW, etc.) and the theme could be stretched to include fantasy and science fiction entries as well (Eldar vs. Dark Eldar, Dwarves vs. Chaos Dwarves, Space Marines vs. Chaos Space Marines, etc.). I thought perhaps a set bonus for presenting a single side of a civil conflict as a team, a higher bonus for presenting two teams from both sides, and maximum bonus for including an artillery piece.
I thought another interesting theme might be "Tales From Shakespeare". Since Shakespeare set his plays in a wide variety of historical contexts, this would allow a good variety of entries: Romans (JULIUS CAESAR, TITUS ANDRONICUS, CORIOLANUS, ANTHONY & CLEOPATRA, etc.), the War of the Roses (HENRY VI, RICHARD III), Agincourt (HENRY V), fantasy themes (A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, THE TEMPEST), ancient Greece (TROILUS & CRESSIDA). While this might require a little more mental effort on the part of the forum members, I think it would result in a rich variety of entries. I thought that there could be a set bonus for a shakespearian force, with additional bonus points for those who stage a particular recognizable scene from a specific play (with appropriate quotation).
Another idea that I had for a bonus round would be "Women and Children". Entrants would receive bonus points for doing a mixed team of 5 women and/or children, or extra points for doing two separate teams of at least 5 of each.
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I tend towards Heldrak's thinking.
Broadish categories which allow folks to use their imagination and inspiration to fit the theme. These kinds of themes bring out lots of surprises and are quite fun.
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Nudes
I would quite seriously consider that a great idea. How well you paint nudes is to me very much a indication of your level as a painter.
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Some very good suggestions there, I personally like
'Film scene'
'Navy' (this could be expanded to include army and airforce)
'Africa' )there could be a selection of continents for this one, one continent for each bonus round)
'Civil War'
Personal suggestions would include
'Novel' (always open to interpretation)
'Creatures'
'Whimsy' (think of this one what you will :D )
cheers
James
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I like the 18th century and civil war suggestions. For nudes I´ll paint up a squad for "shemale wars".
For me Medieval Asia (Japan/China/Corea) is interesting too.
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I would quite seriously consider that a great idea. How well you paint nudes is to me very much a indication of your level as a painter.
That's what I was thinking Hammers - a real test / exhibition of shading, highlighting and blending. :)
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I'm all for the Asian theme. Navel sounds good to me too. And Horror/gothic horror. Comic books, could include anything from Fantasy to Sci-fi to pulp or superheros or just about any hitorical, broad enough? As for the alcohol inspired theme, I have a Pinkerton posse all named after whiskey labels. I do think a book cover or movie poster theme could work. A picture of the book cover or movie poster & one of the figures inspired by it.
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A few ideas of mine;
Literature
Revolution and Counter-Revolution
Civil War
Fauna and Flora
Moustache
Armour and Artillery
Wars of Unification
Guerrilla/Irregular Warfare
Hat
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My suggestions:
Not... (basically a round to enter any of those Not-[insert name] minis)
Future War
Monsters
Repaint prepaint
Secret Agents
Superheroes and Supervillains
Starships and Sailing-boats (basically a catch-all for all sorts of stuff)
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Seriously though:
Navy - anyone or anything that is stationed on a fighting ship, or the boat thereupon - covers ancients to VSF to modern to Star Wars.
Genre Dysfunction - mix genres. Paladins with rayguns, Conan Built My Hotrod, that sorta thing.
Both of these are excellent! :-*
I would also agree with the following (most have been suggested) themes:
* Future Wars
* Swashbuckling
* Weird War II
* Super Heroes
not for the reason that I personnally have interest in these themes but as they are all included in LAF they should appeal to a more broad range of LAFers
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That's what I was thinking Hammers - a real test / exhibition of shading, highlighting and blending. :)
Good point. That would be a very entertaining round ::) :o :)
from a painting point of view...I know what you were thinking...
so was I...
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I like movie themed entries.
Or some type of vehicle featured with the troops.
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I would also agree with the following (most have been suggested) themes:
* Future Wars
* Swashbuckling
* Weird War II
* Super Heroes
On that basis you could just take each of the 17 "periods" listed on the forum, giving nearly 2 leagues worth of topics. I think a bit more definition is required in some cases, though not too specific as the whole idea is to paint miniatures and reduce the leadpile rather than buy miniatures to fit any specified theme. Thats rather counter-productive to the original idea.
General movie or literature themed rounds sound interesting as they are non period specific, although you have the option to define them further such as War Movies, Sci-Fi Movies etc. Any themes that cross "periods" are also a good choice as the range of entries is great to see and often inspired. The more open the categories, the greater the number of participants we should get. If they are too specific you will restrict entries as people will have no interest or have no suitable minitures in their leadpile.
In LPL4 every miniature I painted was already in my leadpile apart from the Automata, which I had bought for a specific game that happily coincided with the League. I paint far more during the League than I would do so otherwise, undoubtedly the Profs original intention. The theme rounds in all the Leagues so far have been fine for me.
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I agree the themes are very general and some more definition would be required. This is just brain storming at this point. Keeping themes general enough where no new minis are required (to purchase, anyway) is also a must. At least several LPL Bonus Rounds have required me to use proxy models rather than purchasing new ones (VSF for example).
That being said, the bonus rounds so far have been excellent and well outside my comfort zone or theme familiarity, but for me that's one of the largest appeals of LPL.
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I know the rules of the current LPL don't allow scenery but how many people have a building WIP on thier workbench?
So how about having a paint a building round for a change.
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I don't enter competitions, but I'd like to make a few suggestions:
Musicians/band - any period,
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982,
Protecting the standard/colours - any period,
Warriors of the faith - any period, and
Mercenary band - any period.
Helen
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I don't enter competitions, but I'd liek to make a few suggestions:
Musicians/band - any period,
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982,
Protecting the standard/colours - any period,
Warriors of the faith - any period, and
Mercenary band - any period.
Helen
Bands would be difficult to do, because there are so few of such minis. And I don't think the post-WWII idea would be popular around here. I really like your protecting-the-colors idea, however. Leaves open a lot of possibilities, and allows for some nicely painted flags.
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I like the mercenary suggestion, as that lends itself to a wide variety of themes and periods.
While I agree that painting nude figures poses an interesting painting challenge, I think that many of us would be hard-pressed to put together entire thematic teams from our existing collections. I think that a nude figure challenge would be better as a separate, smaller contest outside the LPL.
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In LPL4 every miniature I painted was already in my leadpile apart from the Automata, which I had bought for a specific game that happily coincided with the League. I paint far more during the League than I would do so otherwise, undoubtedly the Profs original intention. The theme rounds in all the Leagues so far have been fine for me.
Mine were may 2/3 lead pile and 1/3 new orders. In many ways a mistake, I think, in retrospect.
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I don't enter competitions, but I'd liek to make a few suggestions:
Musicians/band - any period,
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982,
Protecting the standard/colours - any period,
Warriors of the faith - any period, and
Mercenary band - any period.
Helen
All very good and practical.
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I don't enter competitions, but I'd like to make a few suggestions:
Musicians/band - any period,
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982,
Protecting the standard/colours - any period,
Warriors of the faith - any period, and
Mercenary band - any period.
Helen
I like all of these ideas apart from the Musicians where I agree with Mancha.
The others ideas I can think of a team I could use in my games, so I like them.
I don't like the idea of painting Nudes at all. I use the LPL to paint figures I want to use in games and the games I play do not involve nudes. And if I did use them for characters in our DnD group the guys would end up sending the night oggling the figures instead of playing the game ;D
They are very easily distracted (by things like that) lol
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I like all of these ideas apart from the Musicians where I agree with Mancha.
The others ideas I can think of a team I could use in my games, so I like them.
I don't like the idea of painting Nudes at all. I use the LPL to paint figures I want to use in games and the games I play do not involve nudes. And if I did use them for characters in our DnD group the guys would end up sending the night oggling the figures instead of playing the game ;D
They are very easily distracted (by things like that) lol
Perhaps you are joking, but surely there are plenty of wargaming genres part from Fantasy which would qualify for such a theme. Gladiators, Spartans, Darkest Africa, SA Indians, Ancient Germans.
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I don't like the idea of painting Nudes at all.
How about painting nude, then?
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How about painting nude, then?
Doesn't everybody? ;)
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Doesn't everybody? ;)
Due to that mental image there is now sick on my floor.
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Perhaps you are joking, but surely there are plenty of wargaming genres part from Fantasy which would qualify for such a theme. Gladiators, Spartans, Darkest Africa, SA Indians, Ancient Germans.
I suppose that now you put a sensible grown up head on to it there are options.
I was just thinking with my wee boy brain.. OOOhh naked ladies ;D ;D ;D
lol
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Due to that mental image there is now sick on my floor.
lol lol lol
cheers
James
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Another interesting subject would be:
ceremonial uniforms of the world.
I am thinking something like:
sultan's bodyguard,
guards colour party (yes, inspired by Airfix)
danish grenadier guards and so on.
I am also backing the "music band" theme Helen proposed.
Available figures are not so scarce as initially you think. here is a small list:
SYW bosniak and british music band (by Foundry and Tradition)
ACW music bands (I think redoubt has some bandsmen in 28mm or I am mistaken? for 15mm I am sure there is at least one band, since I have it)
Napoleonic mounted and foot band (by Minifigs)
Victorian in home service helmet music band (Tradition)
Scots pipe and drums band (combine drummers and pipers from existing ranges)
and modern bands (even a female music band) by rose and sword(??) or little lead soldiers.
Yes it is needed to buy new figures, but could be minimal say 5mounted and 10foot ones.
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Scarlet and Gold is the correct name (not scarlet and sword)
here is the link for some bands:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/glenn.turner/bands.htm
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Front Rank have mounted Trumpeter, Kettle Drummer and Drummer for some of the period they cover (WSS & SYW)
Foundry have SYW (Prussian) Band figures
Eureka have 18th Century Musicians coming up
Foundry have (or had?) a few Tête de Colonne French Napoleonic figures
Dixon have ACW Band figures
Black Cat Bases have 1920’s Jazz Band
And, as argsilverson pointed out, there’s always "Toy Soldiers" manufacturers that offers musicians/Band figures.
As a side note, I like to count mounted figures and their horses as two figures… after all I got two figures to paint and the manufacturers charge me for two figures too! ;)
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Copplestone does a Band on the Run and Chronoscope does a couple musicians as well (both modern types though - punk/rock), more of a future wars theme but could work
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I suppose that now you put a sensible grown up head on to it there are options.
I was just thinking with my wee boy brain.. OOOhh naked ladies ;D ;D ;D
lol
lol lol lol
Maybe when I originally suggested nudes perhaps I should have written fully or predominantly nude so that it clearly embraces more than just the ladies* (says the chappy who paints a lot of bare-chested Native Americans!)
;) :)
* or lots of Hasslefree Kevins........
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How about painting nude, then?
Has sombody been looking in my windows?
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Maybe when I originally suggested nudes perhaps I should have written fully or predominantly nude so that it clearly embraces more than just the ladies...
Didn't we just do this in the Conan round?
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Some suggestions from me:
Artillery crew - with or without gun, foot or horsed, mortar crews, rocket teams and so on.
HQ group - officers with staff, command group, leader with bodyguard, native king with veteran warriors.
Civilian bystanders - medieval peasants, victorian gents and ladies, modern passers-by.
The Fellowship of the Ring - or at least parts of. Yes, I know the fellowship consists of 9 characters, but it would be really nice to see what people will create here. There are many commercial sets and ready made "fellowships" available, but possibilities to create your own from generic miniatures would be endless and, at least for me, very interesting.
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I find the "Fellowship of the Ring" to be somehow restrictive… But maybe I just don’t see it like you do.
The other 3 suggestions are really good though. It would be really fun/interesting to see them as bonus rounds in the next LPLs.
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How about a `little gems` bonus round, made up of 15mm or smaller scale models?
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The Fellowship of the Ring - or at least parts of. Yes, I know the fellowship consists of 9 characters, but it would be really nice to see what people will create here. There are many commercial sets and ready made "fellowships" available, but possibilities to create your own from generic miniatures would be endless and, at least for me, very interesting.
A more general Lord of the Rings theme would probably be a better choice, as limiting the category to just the Fellowship would probably be too narrow.
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A more general Lord of the Rings theme would probably be a better choice, as limiting the category to just the Fellowship would probably be too narrow.
Even a larger LOTR category is too restrictive. I would like the powers-that-be to choose categories that can be interpreted across genres. Helen's earlier defending-the-flag category, for example, can be applied to almost any interest, genre, era, etc. I do not like fantasy, and would hope that no bonus round would restrict me to fantasy.
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I don't fancy the LOTR idea. I have no use for the figures in a game. Which is one of the reasons I do the LPL.
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I thought LOTR would be alright as I assume that a lot of people use some of the current plastic GW LOTR range for historical armies (Rohirrim, Easterlings, Haradrim, Corsairs of Umbar, etc.) and there's a lot of room for other non-fantasy historical figures in various out-of-the-way corners of middle earth. Lots of middle ages-type figures would work as Breelanders, Woodsmen, Laketowners, Men of Dale, etc.
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Doing LotR that way would mean that some may have the same problem as the Conan theme in the last LPL. You need to know the story to be able to use historical figures as "props" for Tolkien’s universe… :?
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Doing LotR that way would mean that some may have the same problem as the Conan theme in the last LPL. You need to know the story to be able to use historical figures as "props" for Tolkien’s universe… :?
I have no use for my Conan minis but I still enjoyed painting that entry.
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With the Conan entry I used old figures out of my lead pile and stripped and repainted a couple of the figures we use for DnD. For LOTR I would need to buy models as I don't have anything suitable. I suppose the figures could then be used for DnD but they are very expensive for what you get. Not keen on the idea of a LOTR round but I suppose I would go for it if it was chosen as a bonus round.
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A lot of D&D figures are based on LotR. You could probably come up with a suitable team from your D&D stuff.
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I've read some very good ideas here !
These are the ones that I would like to see in a next edition of LPL
- Small scale team -> anything from 10mm and smaller
- Nudes -> no explanation needed ;)
- Whoopsie round -> accidents, car/airplane crashes, sinking ships, ... funny or gruesome
- Single miniature -> 1 model no more
- Sport -> paint a team or depict a moment in a match
- Spaceships -> Either generic or from a tv show or movie
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Even a larger LOTR category is too restrictive. I would like the powers-that-be to choose categories that can be interpreted across genres. Helen's earlier defending-the-flag category, for example, can be applied to almost any interest, genre, era, etc. I do not like fantasy, and would hope that no bonus round would restrict me to fantasy.
I am in two minds there. On one hand I think the idea of using the LPL to wither down the lead pile is solid. On the other hand I think there should be a challenge in the LPL and the bonus rounds could be it. You must extend yourself to reach the very top. You always have the option to ignore the bonus and try to paint something really stunning out of the pile.
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I am in two minds there. On one hand I think the idea of using the LPL to wither down the lead pile is solid. On the other hand I think there should be a challenge in the LPL and the bonus rounds could be it. You must extend yourself to reach the very top. You always have the option to ignore the bonus and try to paint something really stunning out of the pile.
I am in two minds here as well. There have been bonus rounds in the past that I definately wouldn't have painted under other circumstances, and for which I had to buy minis. I certainly have no problem with that (although I prefer to buy minis that I've been wanting to buy). Similarly, I accept that not every bonus round can be general enough to have universal appeal. However, the problem with an overly-specific bonus round is that while some will love it, others will hate it, and hating a bonus round can be a real turn-off. And while I don't participate in the LPL to win, nevertheless, when I'm not attracted to the bonus rounds, and can't figure out a way to twist them to make them attractive, some of the joy of participation is lost.
My very serious recommendation to whoever decides the bonus rounds is to put off the specific one/s until later in the event. A buzz-killing bonus around at the opening of the event risks driving people away.
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I've hated several of the bonus rounds in the LPLs so far (well, not hated, but I wouldn't have done them through choice, put it that way). But in every bonus round I've gone out and acquired the right kind of figures and painted them, because to my mind that's part of the game.
How far one is prepared to go to play the game to the full, is clearly down to each individual.
But like I said in the opening post, very specific subjects are almost certainly best avoided.
But many excellent suggestions so far, which should keep us going for a good few seasons :)
Keep 'em coming.
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When I suggested this topic I didn’t know it would generate so much answers… So far my favourite are;
- General Movie or Literature themed
- 18th Century
- Civil Wars (any)
- Horror/Gothic Horror
- Artillery Crew
- HQ Group
- Civilian Bystanders
The last 3 where all suggested by Admiral Benbow. They are good suggestion as it could include anything from ancient to today’s and from Fantasy to Sci-fi.
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I like the idea of 18th century or civil wars (any)... :)
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When I suggested this topic I didn’t know it would generate so much answers… So far my favourite are;
- General Movie or Literature themed
- 18th Century
- Civil Wars (any)
- Horror/Gothic Horror
- Artillery Crew
- HQ Group
- Civilian Bystanders
The last 3 where all suggested by Admiral Benbow. They are good suggestion as it could include anything from ancient to today’s and from Fantasy to Sci-fi.
I like ALL of these as they would fit in with my ongoing project(s)!!!
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Here's a thought...how about "old metal"...setting up a theme with some of the stuff we've been meaning to build for the last few years to decades? Theres still a lot of the old 25mm stuff floating around it might be fun to see if anyone can do it justice.
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Here's a thought...how about "old metal"...setting up a theme with some of the stuff we've been meaning to build for the last few years to decades? Theres still a lot of the old 25mm stuff floating around it might be fun to see if anyone can do it justice.
Now that is a good idea... Maybe figures at least 20 years old ::)
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Now that is a good idea... Maybe figures at least 20 years old ::)
One undeniably has a few of those...
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Now that is a good idea... Maybe figures at least 20 years old
I would hope you realize that is older than some of the painters.
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I wold hope you realize that is older than some of the painters.
Tough luck for the whippersnappers. We would need a hard and fast eligibility criterion such as production time or first release, otherwise some suspects might complain that bonus points were unjustly awarded. "Has been in my lead pile for so long" just invites discussion and trouble, IMHO.
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Maybe a link or some such to prove the age of the model, with extra bonus points for those that do and a big ;D for those that don't.
Quite like the idea of painting an older figure (I've got a couple of Ral Partha medievals somewhere :) )
cheers
James
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I do have plenty of stuff in my lead mountain that has been there at least 20 years. But why stop there I think I can dig up stuff that is over 30 years old.
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... Quite like the idea of painting an older figure (I've got a couple of Ral Partha medievals somewhere :) )
I've got some too... well I've got lumps of lead that were suppose to be medieval figures ;)
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How about an extra five points per five years of age :D
cheers
James
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Cool, I know a person or two that could help me get my hands on carved figures from the stone ages… Imagine the bonus points I could get! lol
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Now that is a good idea... Maybe figures at least 20 years old ::)
That isn't fair! Even though I've been painting figures for over half my life I don't own anything nearly this old! Oldest I can do is some GW "Classic" guard (the metal cadains etc).
Damned old people.
::)
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Heh heh heh... You young 'uns ;)
Maybe it could just be any out of production figure then...
Don't forget, you can easily buy lots of very quaint - and very old - primitive wargames figures on eBay for an absolute pittance. Just do a search under 25mm rather than 28mm and you will come up with huge numbers of old style figures from long vanished manufacturers... ;)
But no need to fret - no decisions will be taken until the next LPL which will not be for a long time yet!
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Hmmmm...
Laserburn stuff sitting in the cupboard... lol
Edit: shit me, I just realised 20 years ago was 1990! I keep thinking 80 or 85...
I'm getting old. ;D
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Shit you, twenty years ago you weren't even here ;D ;)
cheers
James
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Isn`t 2011 the 150 year anniversary of the (more or less active) start of the ACW with Fort Sumter in April 1861, so maybe a bonus round could be `dedicated` to it, like paint a unit in blue or gray and get 5 points, paint an actual ACW unit and get 10?
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Shit you, twenty years ago you weren't even here ;D ;)
cheers
James
I am halfway to 40 this year though! lol
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I am halfway to 40 this year though! lol
lol lol
Isn`t 2011 the 150 year anniversary of the (more or less active) start of the ACW with Fort Sumter in April 1861, so maybe a bonus round could be `dedicated` to it, like paint a unit in blue or gray and get 5 points, paint an actual ACW unit and get 10?
I like that idea, an anniversary round (not personal of course lol )
cheers
James
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Howe about a non-humans round? This might include anything from animals, to Greys, to orcs, to Quar, etc.
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I am halfway to 40 this year though! lol
And I'm half way to ninety o_o
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Yep, but that's a much longer wait!
Howe about a non-humans round? This might include anything from animals, to Greys, to orcs, to Quar, etc.
That's also a good idea, IMO, but I doubt many people here actually have many 'non-humans'. There's a lot of colonials, pulp and VSF gamers that wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. No problem with that, of course.
These are all great ideas, perhaps use them in the next LPL. I wanna enter next time!!! :D
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I would quite seriously consider that a great idea. How well you paint nudes is to me very much a indication of your level as a painter.
Or how much your hand shakes while you're painting it! ;D
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Please pardon the threadomancy, but I was wondering when we might get an announcement of the bonus theme for round one of LPL5.
With my molasses-in-January painting speed, I need a lot of lead time (particularly if I have to make some acquisitions based on the theme).
Just askin'... ::)
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Michael, there will definitely be an LPL5 - the question of when is another matter! Finding a 10 week window that I can devote to running the thing is the difficulty. But the likelihood is that is will be April - May time. Will try to firm something up over the next few weeks.
There will definitely be a few weeks notice before any new competition actually kicks off, so plenty of time to plan and paint those bonus point entries! ;)
Cheers
Richard
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Michael, there will definitely be an LPL5 - the question of when is another matter! Finding a 10 week window that I can devote to running the thing is the difficulty. But the likelihood is that is will be April - May time. Will try to firm something up over the next few weeks.
There will definitely be a few weeks notice before any new competition actually kicks off, so plenty of time to plan and paint those bonus point entries! ;)
Cheers
Richard
I would suggest putting together a small team of referees for the next LPL. BS2 is easy enough to run for one person but all that uploading of images, tabulation of votes etc. over ten weeks must be chore which could be divided.
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Michael, there will definitely be an LPL5 - the question of when is another matter! Finding a 10 week window that I can devote to running the thing is the difficulty. But the likelihood is that is will be April - May time. Will try to firm something up over the next few weeks.
There will definitely be a few weeks notice before any new competition actually kicks off, so plenty of time to plan and paint those bonus point entries! ;)
Cheers
Richard
Eek! I supposed to be getting married then (!) I'd better get moving and sock away a few teams or I may have to give LPL5 a miss.
Thanks, Cap. In one's monomaniacal self-centeredness, one tends to forget about the workload for the organizer(s)...! ::)
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Meh, some more threadomancy but here are some further ideas for bonus rounds:
Small people - Dwarfs, gnomes, pygmies, homicidal circus midgets, grymn, leprechauns, halflings or ratlings.
Nations of the world - Paint something fictional or real from your country of residence. Cricket team, armed forces, cops, historicals or a Blood Bowl team in your national football team's uniform.
Dark arts - Necromancy, witch craft, occultism, human sacrifice - fairly broad category.
Mythical beasts - Dragons, manticores, hydras or jabberwockies. Large, non-humanoid monstrocities from any religion, faith or myth.
Stuff of Legends - Liked the suggestion for painting OOP lead. Bonus points if produced prior to the 90s. Even more bonus points if produced prior to the 80s.
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I like navy, I like Movies, I like Civil war, I like Post-apocolyps.
These are all nice an general. I don't want to fork out for minis I am not going to use again.
(I still have VSF Stuff from last year in my cabernet- I havn't worked out what they are for).
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Thinking about possible Future LPL bonus rounds - how about:
The East - a Chinese, Japanese or Russian themed bonus round.
Religion - entries must have a strong religious component. Warrior monks, Teutonic Knights, Islamic rebels, Cultists, Nuns etc.
Woods and Forests - entries must have a connection to woodland or forests. Wood Elves, Forest Rangers etc.
Maritime - Basically anything from Ships and Landing Craft to Riverine Warfare and Marines.
Vehicles - Remove the emphasis on figures and have gangs made up of just vehicles - from sailing ships to starships to Tanks.
15mm - I'd love to see how the painters who do so well painting beautiful 28mm figures cope with the smaller scale of 15mm. Making it a bonus round may get people out of their comfort zones!
Ancients - Must be histoorical and before 1,000AD.
Just my thoughts.
Paddy
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Entries made from any range of Lead Adventure Miniatures? How about that?
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Entries made from any range of Lead Adventure Miniatures? How about that?
Seems reasonable, i'm going to buy some anyway after seeing a few of them in the LPL lol
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Rather than have a bonus round for Lead Adventure Miniatures, I was thinking that it might be fun to have a house rule whereby a team of Lead Adventure Miniatures could be substituted for any other bonus round team(s) without penalty.
That way, entrants are not obliged to purchase any Lead Adventure Miniatures, but those who wish to would still be able to enter them for bonus round points, and they would act as a "get-out-of-jail-free" card for those who don't have/wish to acquire figures for a particular bonus round.
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No slight on LAM, but I like the idea of bonus rounds being broader than that.
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I think manufacturer based bonus rounds would be pretty dull, regardless of the manufacturer 8)
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Right then, since there was a sanctioned threadomancy (which I must admit gives a this threadomancy a very unsatisfying feeling), I've compiled a list of all previous suggestions. Some suggestions were rather similiar (or have been done already), so my interpretation have thrown it in with another one. If you see that I've missed a suggestion (which in fact would mean that you've double-checked every suggestion and compared it to this list) post it here.
Here's the list, in alphabetic order:
18th Century
Amazons
Ancients
Armour and Artillery
Artillery crew
Ceremonial uniforms of the world
Civil War
Creatures
Dark arts
Espionage
Fauna and Flora
Flying Things
Future War
Genre Dysfunction
Gothic Horrors
Guerrilla/Irregular Warfare
Hat
HQ group
I painted this while drunk
Lace Wars / Men in Wigs period
Lead Adventure Miniatures
Literature
Little gems` bonus round, made up of 15mm or smaller scale models
Ludicrously overbuilt
Medieval Asia
Mercenary band - any period.
Monsters
Moustache
Musicians/band - any period
Mythical beasts
Non-humans round
Not... (basically a round to enter any of those Not-[insert name] minis)
Novel
Nudes
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982
Protecting the standard/colours - any period
Religion
Repaint prepaint
Revolution and Counter-Revolution
Secret Agents
Small people Nations of the world - Paint something fictional or real from your country of residence
Starships and Sailing-boats
Superheroes and Supervillains
Tales From Shakespeare
The East
Thiefs or cops and robbers
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
Vampires and/or vampire hunters
Vehicles
Warriors of the faith - any period
Wars of Unification
Whimsy
Whoopsie round - Accidents, car/airplane crashes, sinking ships
Women and Children
Woods and Forests
What has been done already:
Africa
Back of Beyond
Civilians and bystanders
Conan the Barbarian
Conquistadors
Cthulhu
Germans
Halloween
Mad Science
Maritime/Naval
Old Metal
Saddle up!
Scenes from famous movies
The Lost World
The Worlds of J.R.R.Tolkien
Victorian Sci-Fi
World War II
Zombies
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Nice one Skander :)
I was going to do that very same thing, and you have saved me the trouble - and excellent bit of threadomancy >:D
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Nice one Skander :)
I was going to do that very same thing, and you have saved me the trouble - and excellent bit of threadomancy >:D
No problem, I needed to pretend doing something serious with excel-sheets and stuff for a while...
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I do think 'Moustache' is a genius suggestion for a theme round lol
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I like Nudes and Musicians. Or possibly Nude musicians.
EDIT: Here's another one
Extra Terrestrial Life Forms
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Good work Skander,gives me ideas :)
I like Nudes and Musicians. Or possibly Nude musicians.
EDIT: Here's another one
Extra Terrestrial Life Forms
Strangely so do I ;)
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What about Swashbucklers and/or Texians, just a thought.........not like I've got any on the go or anything ::)
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What about Swashbucklers and/or Texians, just a thought.........not like I've got any on the go or anything ::)
Swashbucklers is perhaps a theme broad enough, Texians are not, IMO.
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Texians are not, IMO.
lol Busted :D
How about having 'scale, as a theme. A particular scale could be randomly chosen for that bonus round eg. 1/1200, 6mm, 40mm etc.
cheers
James
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'What I bought in the LAF bazaar'
This might encourage painting of some lead. :)
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'What I bought in the LAF bazaar'
This might encourage painting of some lead. :)
Nice one :D
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Texians are not, IMO.
I think that's Texist discrimination ;)
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Ideas for themed rounds - let's see. From the list of themes that have been suggested in the past, but never used, here's what I like, and the reasons why.
Civil War - this is a great one - covers lots of periods, allows for an easy way to have two opposing sides in the entry, and can be interpreted in some interesting ways, probably.
Creatures - I like this one a lot. You could have two opposing gangs of creatures, or a gang of creatures and a gang of hunters. A good opportunity to paint fur/scales/hide too. Could be fun!
Hats - a nice whimsical theme.
HQ group - HQ groups are often the ones that army painters give more time and attention, which would be perfect for the LPL, which has at its heart the idea that it's a good way to reduce the lead mountain.
Literature - we did movies last year, so why not literature this year? Plus, I teach literature, so I have to throw my hat in the ring for this one.
Mercenaries - my favourite, I think. LOTS of scope - many different periods are possible with it, too, which I think is important for LPL.
Cops and Robbers - what's not to like?
Looking forward to seeing what rounds we get!
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I do think 'Moustache' is a genius suggestion for a theme round lol
That was mine, wasn't it? Are extra points available for suggesting the chosen theme? lol
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How about "fractured fairy tales?"
Taking a nursery rhyme or fairy tale in a "different" or twisted direction or interpretation.
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Must say I like all of Hawkeye's suggestions above.
"Moustache" as a theme also amuses me, for some reason.
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At a first glance, "Moustache" doesn't sound very challenging. How do you propose to make it so?
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At a first glance, "Moustache" doesn't sound very challenging. How do you propose to make it so?
Not challenging? I'm rubbish at painting moustaches. I'd go for 'baldies' as a theme any day! :D ;)
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At a first glance, "Moustache" doesn't sound very challenging. How do you propose to make it so?
Well, paint a unit of figures at least five of who sport moustaches? Something like that, can't say I put much serious thought into it! lol Isn't that enough?
Not challenging? I'm rubbish at painting moustaches. I'd go for 'baldies' as a theme any day! :D ;)
Exactly! ::)
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At a first glance, "Moustache" doesn't sound very challenging. How do you propose to make it so?
All five figures must be women! They must all have either a moustache, a monobrow or both (a whole round of Frida Kahlo paintings would certainly be colourful).
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I just realised, after going through my stuff today after a week of illness, that a fantasy theme would be good idea. While not highly attractive in its form, I do believe that all members of this forum, and indeed those doing the comp, should have 5 fantasy miniatures.
It would be a great opportunity to paint up all those old Citadel and all that stuff. Can't come up with a way to narrow it, or make it more interesting at the moment though :/
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^^^^ plus quite a few of us are waiting for their Reapers KS figures to show up in March ;)
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All five figures must be women! They must all have either a moustache, a monobrow or both (a whole round of Frida Kahlo paintings would certainly be colourful).
That's how I painted my paquadorian women for the Chicken Race on the Arumbaya so I am all for it. All natural. None of them has ever heard of waxing their upper lip. Nor the Brazilian variant.
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While my collection is 99% fantasy, I don't support it as a theme. Didn't we start the last season with that very theme?
Some suggestions:
* Undead
* Anthropomorphic animals
* Casualties
* Flying critters
I support the recently mentioned moustache and/or nudity themes!
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Nudes w/ moustaches would allow me to paint those Celts I've had locked away. ;)
How abt something from your own country's history? Anything that comes from an actual historical period, so as to prevent cavemen from entering the picture...
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While my collection is 99% fantasy, I don't support it as a theme. Didn't we start the last season with that very theme?
Some suggestions:
* Undead
* Anthropomorphic animals
* Casualties
* Flying critters
I support the recently mentioned moustache and/or nudity themes!
I'd love to find a reason to paint one of those Eureka Stukadactyls which I don't own, don't need but which looks like so much fun.
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I'd love to find a reason to paint one of those Eureka Stukadactyls which I don't own, dont nedd but which looks like so much fun.
The term "stukadactyl" is pure genious! =)
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While my collection is 99% fantasy, I don't support it as a theme. Didn't we start the last season with that very theme?
Some suggestions:
* Undead
* Anthropomorphic animals
* Casualties
* Flying critters
I support the recently mentioned moustache and/or nudity themes!
It was more of a "let's decrease the lead pile" idea :)
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It was more of a "let's decrease the lead pile" idea :)
I'm sure it will shrink if you give me all your fantasy junk. ;)
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I'm sure it will shrink if you give me all your fantasy junk. ;)
I could, but it would still end up unpainted ;)
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How about:
- Bloodbowl
- Antartica
- Terrorist
- Aquatic animals
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How about:
- Bloodbowl
- Antartica
- Terrorist
- Aquatic animals
Bloodbowl is surely much too specific...?
The others may work.
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Bloodbowl is surely much too specific...?
The others may work.
Sports?
cheers
James
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How about:
Underground
Captors and Captives
Survivors
All can be interpreted in a fairly broad sense...
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Sports?
cheers
James
Not a bad idea. I'm thinking "Fox hunting". :)
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Not a bad idea. I'm thinking "Fox hunting". :)
And I golf...
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Sports?
cheers
James
However, is this not a 'wargaming' forum? You can't expect everyone to paint up a sports team.
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Only having joined since the last LPL occurred and therefore being a complete rookie I'm perhaps not qualified to throw in my two pennies worth, but I rather like the idea mooted earlier in the thread of literature - perhaps scenes from famous novels (suitable to wargaming of course, I'm not suggesting everyone goes out and paints models for Pride & Prejudice...).
Mind you, who decides what's famous? Hmm.
It might be a moot point in my regard anyway given the likelihood of me being organised enough to find and paint suitable figures for any theme in time for the new season is rather low, but just on the off chance!
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However, is this not a 'wargaming' forum? You can't expect everyone to paint up a sports team.
Why not, Blood Bowl and the new Mantic one are sports; if of a fantasy kind. GZG do cheerleaders. It's not supposed to be easy ::)
cheers
James
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However, is this not a 'wargaming' forum?
I've heard it's more about adventure... Among the least war-like mini forums I know.
You can include gentlemen's sports like pistol shooting, fencing, hunting, riding, archery, motor-racing, rifle shooting, chess and clay shooting.
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I've heard it's more about adventure... Among the least war-like mini forums I know.
You can include gentlemen's sports like pistol shooting, fencing, hunting, riding, archery, motor-racing, rifle shooting, chess and clay shooting.
Yes, nevertheless it's pretty specific, and tricky especially considering you need at least five figures.
Anyway, sports aren't an adventure, they're an exercise in mundane futility. ;)
*flees*
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How about:
Underground
Captors and Captives
Survivors
All can be interpreted in a fairly broad sense...
I rather like 'underground' and 'survivors' as themes. They are broad enough to allow fir much creativity yet still have an underlying context.
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How about a "limited palette" round?
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5 miniatures in monochrome orange lol (just teasing)
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Yes, nevertheless it's pretty specific, and tricky especially considering you need at least five figures.
Moustaches ::)
cheers
James
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Shan't be able compete this year as will be away for the bulk of it
May I suggest that "mounted" be a theme
Mounted need not necessarily be on a horse of course....
Err - note to our less salubrious members"..........
"Mounted of course should not be vulgar of course lol
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Would the trophies on the wall of a hunting lodge count as mounted? :D
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May I suggest that "mounted" be a theme
Mounted need not necessarily be on a horse of course....
"Saddle up!" (or "get on my horse") was already a theme a few years ago. I think it included barbarian war tigers too.
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Moustaches ::)
lol
Personally, I think the LPL should have two separate competitions: the painting, preceded by a tournament in which you are matched up randomly with another contestant, and have to produce the most long-winded, obscure and petty argument related to the rules. We could have ‘theme’ rounds too, such as ‘Background layout’, ‘Do elaborate bases count as separate figures?’ and ‘What really defines a moustache?’...
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Have we ever had "Last Stand?"
Specific yet broad enough to encompass every genre. Could lead to some lovely little compositions, too.
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Have we ever had "Last Stand?"
Specific yet broad enough to encompass every genre. Could lead to some lovely little compositions, too.
I like this one :)
cheers
James
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Have we ever had "Last Stand?"
Specific yet broad enough to encompass every genre. Could lead to some lovely little compositions, too.
Spiffing idea!
Seconded.
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"Last Stand" is a great idea, Plynkes. Broad enough (in terms of periods/types of models/etc.) yet wonderfully specific!
"Captives and Captors" and "Survivors" are also nice ideas - for similar reasons - but "Last Stand" offers a great narrative element for entries.
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Last stand seems like a perfect choice for the last round which usually involves scenery and multiple teams.
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There's been a scene from a film in the past but what about something from a painting - or is that too narrow?
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Have we ever had "Last Stand?"
Brilliant!, that is an awesome idea :-*
Beats anything I could come up with.
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Any news on this? :)
Rummaged through my mountain yesterday and realised that I'd better start yesteryear to be able to finsih on time...
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Not yet. Watch this space... :)
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Strange thought, and I'm a bit unsure if it has been done already, but how about the theme "East"? It's rather broad and covers a lot of various things :)
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I can't wait to see what is chosen for this years LPL themes. To pick 3 from the many suggested seems an brilliant job to have - but I guess it'll be taxing a few brain cells at the moment.
My choice of three, based on nothing except blind prejudice and what is written in this thread:
Monochrome
The East (extra bonus for eastern enemies)
Civil War (extra bonus for both opposing sides, second extra bonus of associated equipment group or vehicle)
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Ohh I like the idea of putting in a top 3, especially as I cant add anything original!! :D
I think...
Survivors
Civil War
Last Stand
All really awesome and nicely broad covering almost all genres!
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Lots of good ideas in this thread :)
I particularly like 'Last Stand' and 'One's own country's historical event'. The last option would surely result in a round filled with nice entries about lesser known historical events. It's also broad enough to fit in loads of different stuff.
Another idea: 'Boardgame Miniatures'
I would guess everyone of us has one or more boardgames lying around with miniatures that he or she has been meaning to paint months/years or maybe aeons ago, like Zombicide, Doom, Space Hulk, Warhammer Quest, Talisman or from way back Heroquest, Star Crusade. There should be enough to choose from 8)
How abt something from your own country's history? Anything that comes from an actual historical period, so as to prevent cavemen from entering the picture...
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I think considering the whole thing recently about Space Marines, Amazon, Games Workshop and an a previously unknown book 'Spots space marine'; I think a theme around 'space marines' ought to feature reclaiming the term for the good of the whole community not just a 'little' niche of it ;) It could then include VSF, retro sci-fi, Aliens, Starship Troopers, etc.
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I think considering the whole thing recently about Space Marines, Amazon, Games Workshop and an a previously unknown book 'Spots space marine'; I think a theme around 'space marines' ought to feature reclaiming the term for the good of the whole community not just a 'little' niche of it ;) It could then include VSF, retro sci-fi, Aliens, Starship Troopers, etc.
I like it! Wargames revisionism.
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Since we all tell stories with our painting, what about a theme based upon open-ended writer's prompts:
"I thought it was going so well, and then..."
"He just knew he was going to make it this time"
"It was then they knew they really weren't in Kansas anymore"
or perhaps just a simple:
"Oops"
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That's a very nice, creative idea :)
Definitely worth considering - although it might be a bit subjective as to whether someone's entry does or does not meet the opening of the story! ;)
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An idea is "the world today"
the entry should be from anywhere in our world during the year 2013.
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I'd like to see an "Iron Chef" round. That is, where to get bonus points, everyone takes a pic of their unpainted minis in front of some visual proof of them being unpainted at the start of the round. Then, you only have the one week to complete painting and basing/staging/photography. For an added challenge, include a "secret ingredient"--a color that should be featured in all the figs.
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I favor the Civilians theme and particularly the women and children theme. Also Asian would be fun with some sort of emphasis on Samurai and Geisha. And maybe do that one as a tribute to Kurosawa's films. I would also like to see a tribute to Lawrence of Arabia and maybe Zulu Wars.
Another suggestion might be anthropomorphic animals. Silly I know, but it could be fun.
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I favor the Civilians theme and particularly the women and children theme. Also Asian would be fun with some sort of emphasis on Samurai and Geisha. And maybe do that one as a tribute to Kurosawa's films. I would also like to see a tribute to Lawrence of Arabia and maybe Zulu Wars.
Another suggestion might be anthropomorphic animals. Silly I know, but it could be fun.
Civilian was done not LPL5 wasn't it. But it is a good theme and could very well be repeated.
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So, I see that Season 7 entries have been archived. Does this mean we can hope for a Season 8? :)
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Yes please!
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The signs indicate that there is a LPL8 looming on the horizon, so how about another bout of theme suggestions?
Up to this point the following has been done in previous Leagues...
What has been done already (based on Silversixx' list from last year):
Africa (S5R5)
Back of Beyond (S2R10)
Civilians and bystanders (S5R1)
Conan the Barbarian (S4R1)
Conquistadors (S2R5)
Cthulhu (S2R10)
Germans (S3R1)
Halloween(S1R7)
Historical Civil War (S7R5)
HQ Group (S7R1)
Mad Science (S2R1)
Maritime/Naval (S6R10)
Old Metal (S6R1)
Saddle up! (S3R5)
Scenes from famous movies (S5R10)
Science Fiction (S7R10)
The Lost World (S3R10)
The Worlds of J.R.R.Tolkien (S6R5)
Victorian Sci-Fi (S4R10)
World War II (S1R5)
Zombies (S4R5)
...and a collection of proposed suggestions ...
18th Century
Amazons
Ancients
Antartica
Anthropomorphic Animals
Aquatic Animals
Armour and Artillery
Artillery crew
Bloodbowl
Boardgame Miniatures
Casualties
Captors and Captives
Ceremonial uniforms of the world
Cops and Robbers
Creatures
Dark arts
East
Espionage
Extra Terrestrial Life Forms
Fauna and Flora
Flying Things
Fractured Fairy Tales
Future War
Genre Dysfunction
Gothic Horrors
Guerrilla/Irregular Warfare
Hat
I painted this while drunk
'Iron Chef' round
Lace Wars / Men in Wigs period
Last Stand
Lead Adventure Miniatures
Limited Palette
Literature
Little gems` bonus round, made up of 15mm or smaller scale models
Ludicrously overbuilt
Medieval Asia
Mercenary band - any period.
Monsters
Moustache
Musicians/band - any period
Mythical beasts
Non-humans round
Not... (basically a round to enter any of those Not-[insert name] minis)
Novel
Nudes
One's own country's historical event
Open-Ended Writer's Prompts ("It was then they knew they really weren't in Kansas anymore...")
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982
Protecting the standard/colours - any period
Random Scale
Space Marines (reclaiming the concept)
Religion
Repaint prepaint
Revolution and Counter-Revolution
Secret Agents
Small people Nations of the world - Paint something fictional or real from your country of residence
Sports
Starships and Sailing-boats
Superheroes and Supervillains
Survivors
Swashbucklers
Tales From Shakespeare
Terrorist
Texians
The East
Thiefs or cops and robbers
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
Undead
Underground
Vampires and/or vampire hunters
Vehicles
Warriors of the faith - any period
Wars of Unification
What I bought in the LAF bazaar
Whimsy
Whoopsie round - Accidents, car/airplane crashes, sinking ships
Women and Children
Woods and Forests
World Today, The
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A few ideas... (I acknowledge there's some overlap with these and the listed ones so consider them as alternative definitions around the same main concept.)
- Other geographic areas: North/South America, Middle/Far East, polar, tropics, barren lands, mountains...
- Steam, combustion
- Superweapons
- Explorers, settlers, pioneers
- Industry
- Jules Verne
- Siege
- (Classic) D&D adventurers and creatures
- Entertainment
- Elite troops, royal guard
- I lost control on Kickstarter
- National epics, stories, legends, myths
- My favourite small (~one-man) company
- Totally surreal
- Quantity over quality
- Underdogs, against the odds
- Evil mastermind & worthless minions, "take on the world" (vs. heroes thwarting them)
- Pirates, rogues, highwaymen, crooks (vs. appropriate law enforcement)
- Garish
Alright, that's enough for now. :)
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Thanks guys, the bonus rounds are already settled. The official LPL announcement follows soon.
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A few ideas... (I acknowledge there's some overlap with these and the listed ones so consider them as alternative definitions around the same main concept.)
- Other geographic areas: North/South America, Middle/Far East, polar, tropics, barren lands, mountains...
- Steam, combustion
- Superweapons
- Explorers, settlers, pioneers
- Industry
- Jules Verne
- Siege
- (Classic) D&D adventurers and creatures
- Entertainment
- Elite troops, royal guard
- I lost control on Kickstarter
- National epics, stories, legends, myths
- My favourite small (~one-man) company
- Totally surreal
- Quantity over quality
- Underdogs, against the odds
- Evil mastermind & worthless minions, "take on the world" (vs. heroes thwarting them)
- Pirates, rogues, highwaymen, crooks (vs. appropriate law enforcement)
- Garish
Alright, that's enough for now. :)
Stonking list there, dolmot.
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Thanks guys, the bonus rounds are already settled. The official LPL announcement follows soon.
Awww... All that work... ;)
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Awww... All that work... ;)
Really appreciate your work, Peder, thanks for that, it's a great overview and we will be using the list in the future for sure.
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By the way, for students of such things, I recently did a little analysis of the bonus round themes to date which shows that in previous LPLs we have tried to fairly evenly blend historical, non-historical and generic (something that could apply equally to historical or non-historical) themes.
The tally of bonus round themes by type is:
- 8 historical (if we count Back of Beyond as historical)
- 10 fantasy / sci-fi / horror
- 9 generic: could be historical or non-historical
Edited to bring up to date as at end of LPL9, 2015.
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Who is running the LPL this year....?
Just need to know where bribes must be sent..... ::)
Only kidding, just curious.
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Who is running the LPL this year....?
Me.
Just need to know where bribes must be sent..... ::)
Paul, damn, not in public!! :o
;D
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Thanks guys, the bonus rounds are already settled. The official LPL announcement follows soon.
Oh dear Alex! It's been almost 36 hours since the announcement, we want more! ;)
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Oh dear Alex! It's been almost 36 hours since the announcement, we want more! ;)
You've been in LAf for several years now, Skander. Have you no no *idea* just how unpopular this kind of nagging is to the LPL-runners? >:D
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Oh dear Alex! It's been almost 36 hours since the announcement, we want more! ;)
We're almost there, Skander. Still polishing the details :)
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You've been in LAf for several years now, Skander. Have you no no *idea* just how unpopular this kind of nagging is to the LPL-runners? >:D
Of course it is! But someone had to take the bullet for the rest of the impatient ones* ;)
We're almost there, Skander. Still polishing the details :)
Looking forward to it! :)
*Those of us that plan, put away the minis, and then don't have the time to paint it up. However, we all manage to say "Damn, next LPL, next LPL!"...
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Not sure if I can do it this year.We shall see; however I shall still look forward to LPL8.
And thankyou Alex for the hard work :)
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Well I just put a bunch of stuff from my lead mountain on my painting table. Mostly big units, I'll have to see what else I have & what I might do with what is ready to start.
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Not sure if I can do it this year.We shall see; however I shall still look forward to LPL8.
And thankyou Alex for the hard work :)
I'd look forward to it mate!
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Just tidying / updating this thread.
For no apparent reason... ;)
In previous LPLs we have tried to evenly blend historical, non-historical and generic (something that could apply equally to historical or non-historical) themes.
The tally of bonus round themes by type is:
- 8 historical (if we count Back of Beyond as historical)
- 10 fantasy / sci-fi / horror
- 9 generic: could be historical or non-historical
To whit:
Africa (S5R5)
Animals (S9R5)
Armour (S9R1)
Back of Beyond (S2R10)
Civilians and bystanders (S5R1)
Conan the Barbarian (S4R1)
Conquistadors (S2R5)
Cthulhu (S2R10)
Germans (S3R1)
Halloween(S1R7)
Historical Civil War (S7R5)
HQ Group (S7R1)
Mad Science (S2R1)
Maritime/Naval (S6R10)
Old Metal (S6R1)
Saddle up! (S3R5)
Scenes from famous movies (S5R10)
Science Fiction (S7R10)
The Ancient World (S8R5)
The Lost World (S3R10)
The Realms of fantasy (S8R1)
The War to end all wars - WW1 (S8R10)
The Worlds of J.R.R.Tolkien (S6R5)
Victorian Sci-Fi (S4R10)
Women (S9R10)
World War II (S1R5)
Zombies (S4R5)
...and a collection of proposed suggestions for future LPLs ...
Amazons
Antarctica
Anthropomorphic Animals
Aquatic Animals
Armour and Artillery
Artillery crew
Beards
Bloodbowl
Board game miniatures
Casualties
Captors and Captives
Ceremonial uniforms of the world
Cops and Robbers
Creatures
(Classic) D&D adventurers and creatures
Dark arts
East
Elite troops, royal guard
Entertainment
Evil mastermind & worthless minions, "take on the world" (vs. heroes thwarting them)
Explorers, settlers, pioneers
Extra Terrestrial Life Forms
Flora
Flying Things
Fractured Fairy Tales
Future War
Garish
Genre Dysfunction
Gothic Horrors
Guerrilla/Irregular Warfare
Hat
Industry
I painted this while drunk
'Iron Chef' round
Jules Verne
Lace Wars / Men in Wigs / C18th period
Last Stand
Lead Adventure Miniatures
Limited Palette
Literature
Little gems` bonus round, made up of 15mm or smaller scale models
Ludicrously overbuilt
Medieval Asia
Mercenary band - any period.
Monsters
Moustache
Musicians/band - any period
My favourite small (~one-man) company
National epics, stories, legends, myths
Non-humans round
Not... (basically a round to enter any of those Not-[insert name] minis)
Novel
Nudes
One's own country's historical event
Open-Ended Writer's Prompts ("It was then they knew they really weren't in Kansas anymore...")
Other geographic areas: North/South America, Middle/Far East, polar, tropics, barren lands, mountains...
Pirates, rogues, highwaymen, crooks (vs. appropriate law enforcement)
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982
Protecting the standard/colours - any period
Quantity over quality
Random Scale
Space Marines (reclaiming the concept)
Religion
Repaint pre-paint
Revolution and Counter-Revolution
Secret Agents / espionage
Siege
Small people Nations of the world - Paint something fictional or real from your country of residence
Sports
Starships and Sailing-boats
Steam, combustion
Superheroes and Super villains
Super weapons
Survivors
Swashbucklers
Tales From Shakespeare
Terrorists
Texians
The East
Thieves, or cops and robbers
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
Totally surreal
Undead
Underdogs, against the odds
Underground
Vampires and/or vampire hunters
Vehicles
Warriors of the faith - any period
Wars of Unification
What I bought in the LAF bazaar
Whimsy
Whoopsie round - Accidents, car/airplane crashes, sinking ships
Woods and Forests
World Today, The
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Jesus, there really are some weird suggestions in that lot lol
cheers
James
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Yes, some of them are not really practical categories in terms of setting boundaries for what would qualify and what wouldn't. But there are some good suggestions in there too. We'll try to draw from the long list when the next LPL comes round - as we have before :)
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What about Star Wars for next year? Seems apt with all the hub-bub about just now.
Or even Animation. Take that as either cartoons, from Frozen to Transformers, but could even include undead and the like.
I do love the 'I painted this while drunk' suggestion! How do you prove people were drunk when doing. Do you have to produce a positive breath test in your submitted photo? lol
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Painted while drinking would work for me as I generally always do. lol
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Just tidying / updating this thread...
Updated list to the end of LPL13.
The tally of 39 bonus round themes across LPLs 1-13 by type is:
- 11 historical (if we count Back of Beyond as historical - ish)
- 11 fantasy / sci-fi / horror specific
- 17 generic: i.e. the theme could be met using historical or non-historical figures or models
To whit:
Africa! (S5R5)
Americas (S13R10)
Animals (S9R5)
Armour (S9R1)
Back of Beyond (S2R10)
Big brother, little brothers (S11R10)
British (S12R1)
Civilians and bystanders (S5R1)
Conan the Barbarian (S4R1)
Conquistadors (S2R5)
Cthulhu (S2R10)
Creatures, beasts or monsters (S10R10)
Explorers, settlers and pioneers (S12R7)
Germans (S3R1)
Halloween (S1R7)
High and Late Medieval (S10R5)
Historical Civil War (S7R5)
HQ Group (S7R1)
Just the paint (no scenery) S13R5
Lying, sitting or kneeling miniatures (S10R1)
Mad Science (S2R1)
Maritime/Naval (S6R10)
Old Metal (S6R1)
Saddle up! (S3R5)
Scenes from famous movies (S5R10)
Science Fiction (S7R10)
Ship’s Crew (S11R5)
Support weapon and crew (S12R4)
The Ancient World (S8R5)
The Lost World (S3R10)
The Realms of fantasy (S8R1)
The War to end all wars - WW1 (S8R10)
The Worlds of J.R.R.Tolkien (S6R5)
Things that go bump in the night (Gothic Horror) (S13R1)
Tribesmen (S11R1)
Victorian Sci-Fi (S4R10)
Women (S9R10)
World War II (S1R5)
Zombies (S4R5)
...and a collection of proposed suggestions for future LPLs ...
Amazons
Antarctica
Anthropomorphic Animals
Aquatic Animals
Armour and Artillery
Beards
Bloodbowl
Board game miniatures
Casualties
Captors and Captives
Ceremonial uniforms of the world
Cops and Robbers
(Classic) D&D adventurers and creatures
Dark arts
East
Elite troops, royal guard
Entertainment
Evil mastermind & worthless minions, "take on the world" (vs. heroes thwarting them)
Extra Terrestrial Life Forms
Flora
Flying Things
Fractured Fairy Tales
Future War
Garish
Genre Dysfunction
Guerrilla/Irregular Warfare
Hats
Industry
I painted this while drunk
'Iron Chef' round
Jules Verne
Lace Wars / Men in Wigs / C18th period
Last Stand
Lead Adventure Miniatures
Limited Palette
Literature
Little gems, made up of 15mm or smaller scale models
Ludicrously overbuilt
Medieval Asia
Mercenary band - any period
Moustaches
Musicians/band - any period
My favourite small (~one-man) company
National epics, stories, legends, myths
Non-humans round
Not... (basically a round to enter any of those Not-[insert name] minis)
Novel
Nudes
One's own country's historical event
Open-Ended Writer's Prompts ("It was then they knew they really weren't in Kansas anymore...")
Other geographic areas: Middle/Far East, polar, tropics, barren lands, mountains...
Pirates, rogues, highwaymen, crooks (vs. appropriate law enforcement)
Post World War II an up to Lebanon 1982
Protecting the standard/colours - any period
Quantity over quality
Random Scale
Space Marines (reclaiming the concept)
Religion
Repaint pre-paint
Revolution and Counter-Revolution
Secret Agents / espionage
Siege
Small people Nations of the world - Paint something fictional or real from your country of residence
Sports
Starships and Sailing-boats
Steam, combustion
Superheroes and Super villains
Super weapons
Survivors
Swashbucklers
Tales From Shakespeare
Terrorists
Texians
The East
Thieves, or cops and robbers
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
Totally surreal
Undead
Underdogs, against the odds
Underground
Vampires and/or vampire hunters
Vehicles
Warriors of the faith - any period
Wars of Unification
What I bought in the LAF bazaar
Whimsy
Whoopsie round - Accidents, car/airplane crashes, sinking ships
Woods and Forests
World Today, The
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Very useful Richard. Didn't someone also suggest a white background only round? Can't remember who though?
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That might be a good idea for a mandatory round - no scenics, let’s see the paintwork - rather than an optional theme bonus?
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Yes, I think that was the idea. It arose during a discussion about whether people were voting for the painting or the composition. I think we should try it out.
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That might be a good idea for a mandatory round - no scenics, let’s see the paintwork - rather than an optional theme bonus?
I might do a blurb on cropping et cetera, if that's of any use?
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As we approached the last BSC there was a theme suggestion for micro builds. I deemed this being akin to "markers" which I thought would be more suitable for a LPL. I think casualty, treause and object marker, just to name a few, would be a nice theme for a a round.
Several interesting, and funny, themes on that list... :)
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I painted this while drunk lol
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I painted this while drunk lol
No challange. That's what I do.
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There are some great possibilities in the list and I see a couple that would fit with what I'm already painting which is always a bonus.
I think the best types of round though are those which can be more varied in the type of entry you get. This is probably a bit of a bind for the adjudicators deciding if something is or isn't a valid bonus entry. Looking at the below a Texan round would seem to me to be lots of Alamo type figures against each other (although this makes the voting more equal) as opposed to small scale which could be anything.
Quite like the idea of board game figures, especially with the rise of the kickstarter miniature games and presumably change in gaming habits. However if you haven't already got a board game with figures sourcing at a reasonable price may be far more difficult
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I might do a blurb on cropping et cetera, if that's of any use?
I think that would be very useful Guy. Getting a good photo is almost as important and the painting of the figures.
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A okay :)
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